Titanic: Our City Remembers (From Daily Echo)

Is it not about time that Southampton twinned with Belfast, New York and Halifax Nova Scotia as we are all linked in a major way by the Titanic. I think that we have more in common with these cities than we do with , Le Havre, France, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Germany, Trieste, Italy, Hampton, Virginia, United States, Qingdao, People's Republic of China, Busan, South Korea.

Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

J.K. wrote:
Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

give it a year and it will start to be forgotten

southy wrote:

J.K. wrote:
Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

give it a year and it will start to be forgotten

Very respectful from someone who claims to be from a maritime background.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

J.K. wrote:
Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

give it a year and it will start to be forgotten

Very respectful from someone who claims to be from a maritime background.

I don't claim I am from a maritime background, people with a Maritime background move on quickly its not new to us to lose or be taken by the sea, thats where we differ from you land lubbers.

Someone has tied their seafaring knickers into a Gordian Knot. Quite remarkable an achievement.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

J.K. wrote:
Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

give it a year and it will start to be forgotten

Very respectful from someone who claims to be from a maritime background.

I don't claim I am from a maritime background, people with a Maritime background move on quickly its not new to us to lose or be taken by the sea, thats where we differ from you land lubbers.

Your just cheesed off the Sea museum money wasn't just given to your mates so they can upgrade their TVs & fund Labours next election push.

clausentum wrote:
Someone has tied their seafaring knickers into a Gordian Knot. Quite remarkable an achievement.

A good way to get a hernia. Especially when you are renowned for talking a lot of bollock$

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

J.K. wrote:
Titanic overload, surely we've had enough of the repetitive
churn of the story.
Time to move on.

give it a year and it will start to be forgotten

Very respectful from someone who claims to be from a maritime background.

I don't claim I am from a maritime background, people with a Maritime background move on quickly its not new to us to lose or be taken by the sea, thats where we differ from you land lubbers.

Your just cheesed off the Sea museum money wasn't just given to your mates so they can upgrade their TVs & fund Labours next election push.

I don't support Labour Shoong they are just another Tory party. The sea museum is in the wrong place for one, the wool house should off stayed the sea museum and up graded. there is land on the side of the wool house that could off been used to extend.
All this council as done is wasted millions on what will become a white elephant.

clausentum wrote:
Someone has tied their seafaring knickers into a Gordian Knot. Quite remarkable an achievement.

The secret behind the Gordius Knot is to know how it is tied, knowing that you will know where the ends are tuck in and under. And is not untieable, to some one in the know.
There are a number of forms off the Gordius knot.
Just though I let you know.

clausentum wrote:

clausentum wrote:
Someone has tied their seafaring knickers into a Gordian Knot. Quite remarkable an achievement.

A good way to get a hernia. Especially when you are renowned for talking a lot of bollock$

hummm clausentum when was the last time you see your head shrink, your talking to your self and about your self again.

What city in the world wants to be associated with such a monumental f-up?

Let it go, with a sense of shame, and let's all move on.

My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

You paid your respects to your relative in a personal way, that had meaning for you, without fanfare.

How would an impersonal (and likely commercialised) razzmatazz commemorative event have enhanced your individual sense of historic loss of your relative?

Surely, all that matters is that you commemorated the loss of your relative, in your own quiet way that had meaning for you? No?

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

There was a Vigil in East Park last night, With a talk through the events of the night of April the 14th 1912 as they happened, People haven't forgotten and families of the lost and Survivors will never forget, I don't believe we need to commercialise the Anniversary. Last night was a quiet time for reflection and it was very poignant.

The city council / Tory propagandists should be fired, lots of Titanic coverage on the BBC, lots of mentions of the event at sea, lots of mentions of the museum in Belfast. How many mentions of our own pearly white iceberg/elephant, none that I could see. Also I never received any free tickets, overall very unimpressed.

Actually, something much better could have been organised for last night/early hours of this morning, to mark the sinking of 'Titanic'. And for those of you always cracking on about commercialism, it doesn't h-a-v-e- to be so like. This kind of thing can be organised. It just needs due dignity with a respectful approach.

Lord Ikea wrote:
Is it not about time that Southampton twinned with Belfast, New York and Halifax Nova Scotia as we are all linked in a major way by the Titanic. I think that we have more in common with these cities than we do with , Le Havre, France, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Germany, Trieste, Italy, Hampton, Virginia, United States, Qingdao, People's Republic of China, Busan, South Korea.

Actually, I think that's a good idea there of yours.

Lord Ikea wrote:
Is it not about time that Southampton twinned with Belfast, New York and Halifax Nova Scotia as we are all linked in a major way by the Titanic. I think that we have more in common with these cities than we do with , Le Havre, France, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Germany, Trieste, Italy, Hampton, Virginia, United States, Qingdao, People's Republic of China, Busan, South Korea.

wonderful idea.

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

has anyone ever told you that you are boring!!

pod wrote:

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

has anyone ever told you that you are boring!!

sorry, this quote was for southy!!

Anyone see the Bernard Hill- presented documentary: 'Titanic - Southampton Remembers', on BBC 1 earlier today? I thought it was good and a shame that it couldn't have been made into an hour long, instead of 30 minutes.

pod wrote:

pod wrote:

RBLA wrote: My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

has anyone ever told you that you are boring!!

sorry, this quote was for southy!!

pod, yes, several of us have! But he goes on regardless, just like an old sea-dog sat on his own stool in the local, hunched over his rum, who has no idea that he's doing just that - boring everyone around him!

Anyone know if that was southy in the photo of those guys from the TUSC on page 6 of this weekend's Echo? I reckon he's the one in the middle, all clench-fisted, aka silly little rebel-revolutionary like!

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

last night I was at a showing of 'heavens gate' at the hub. only 18 people in the audience, and I think only two of us were english, before everyone starts screaming 'racist' visually it was obvious.
I also went to the Turner Sims concert 'look out' which I have to say was the most wonderful, moving performance I have ever seen in my life. The white star line up have left me with a memory that I will cherish for the rest of my life and for that I thank them.
I was also on the 'balmoral' for their mini cruise before it all went commercial and dramatic, and the americans on board commented on how the people from Southampton stay silent. They see this as a dignified silence which they admit they are unable to understand but admire greatly.
Your actions as a family last night mean more than anything else that has gone on in the last fortnight. I have spent a lot of time lately listening to people that have the very vaguest connections with this ship, spouting off. Those of us who have a real connection keep our thoughts and memories to ourselves, as your family have done.
I am hoping to go to the seacity museum tomorrow now that all the kids are back at school.
3 of my grand children took part in the parade on tuesday, I am very proud of them.

Scrutinizer wrote:

pod wrote:

pod wrote:

RBLA wrote: My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

has anyone ever told you that you are boring!!

sorry, this quote was for southy!!

pod, yes, several of us have! But he goes on regardless, just like an old sea-dog sat on his own stool in the local, hunched over his rum, who has no idea that he's doing just that - boring everyone around him!

Anyone know if that was southy in the photo of those guys from the TUSC on page 6 of this weekend's Echo? I reckon he's the one in the middle, all clench-fisted, aka silly little rebel-revolutionary like!

if we ever meet in that local bar, we should leave him to his rum, pat him on the head, tickle him under the chin and slid orf and have a drink to all the interesting people in southampton that have something positive to say, and then go home home and say - wot a great night out!!!!!

pod wrote:

Scrutinizer wrote:

pod wrote:

pod wrote:

RBLA wrote: My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

has anyone ever told you that you are boring!!

sorry, this quote was for southy!!

pod, yes, several of us have! But he goes on regardless, just like an old sea-dog sat on his own stool in the local, hunched over his rum, who has no idea that he's doing just that - boring everyone around him! Anyone know if that was southy in the photo of those guys from the TUSC on page 6 of this weekend's Echo? I reckon he's the one in the middle, all clench-fisted, aka silly little rebel-revolutionary like!

if we ever meet in that local bar, we should leave him to his rum, pat him on the head, tickle him under the chin and slid orf and have a drink to all the interesting people in southampton that have something positive to say, and then go home home and say - wot a great night out!!!!!

Aye, aye to that! ;-)

Scrutinizer wrote:
Anyone see the Bernard Hill- presented documentary: 'Titanic - Southampton Remembers', on BBC 1 earlier today? I thought it was good and a shame that it couldn't have been made into an hour long, instead of 30 minutes.

just got in and watched it now, and I could not agree more!!!
shocking to think that the only memorial to a decent human being is just a photo on a wall in a block of flats. Cannot understand why it was not renamed after the captain who lived there, regardless of the 'titanic' rather than Cheltenham Court.

pod wrote:

Scrutinizer wrote:
Anyone see the Bernard Hill- presented documentary: 'Titanic - Southampton Remembers', on BBC 1 earlier today? I thought it was good and a shame that it couldn't have been made into an hour long, instead of 30 minutes.

just got in and watched it now, and I could not agree more!!!
shocking to think that the only memorial to a decent human being is just a photo on a wall in a block of flats. Cannot understand why it was not renamed after the captain who lived there, regardless of the 'titanic' rather than Cheltenham Court.

It was well worth watching but it was a pity that the BBC promoted it so poorly. Had I not seen a trailer I would not have known it was on. Most, if not all, of the schedules in the newspapers diod not mention it.

News Fanatic wrote:

pod wrote:

Scrutinizer wrote: Anyone see the Bernard Hill- presented documentary: 'Titanic - Southampton Remembers', on BBC 1 earlier today? I thought it was good and a shame that it couldn't have been made into an hour long, instead of 30 minutes.

just got in and watched it now, and I could not agree more!!! shocking to think that the only memorial to a decent human being is just a photo on a wall in a block of flats. Cannot understand why it was not renamed after the captain who lived there, regardless of the 'titanic' rather than Cheltenham Court.

It was well worth watching but it was a pity that the BBC promoted it so poorly. Had I not seen a trailer I would not have known it was on. Most, if not all, of the schedules in the newspapers diod not mention it.

News Fanatic, To be fair it was advertised on BBC South at least a couple of times during the previous week and it was also in the Echo's tv magazine too. But it should have had a more prominent promotion, yes.

RBLA wrote:
My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

Belfast also produce many of its crew as did Liverpool. but had rented rooms in Southampton and are counted as Southampton residents.

Good for you for remembering but its not every ones cup of tea.

southy wrote:

RBLA wrote: My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

Belfast also produce many of its crew as did Liverpool. but had rented rooms in Southampton and are counted as Southampton residents. Good for you for remembering but its not every ones cup of tea.

southy, Just curious but was that you in that photograph that was on page 6 of the Echo on Saturday, giving it the ol' commie clenched-fist salute? The one on the middle, yes?

Scrutinizer wrote:

southy wrote:

RBLA wrote: My family and I stood at 11.40pm last night at Mayflower park in Southampton and threw a wreath and some flowers in for my great-grandfather who was a crew member and died onboard the Titanic 100 years ago. There was no-one around, no pomp or ceremony, and even when I tried to visit the Titanic Memorial at Holyrood Church afterward to pay my respects, the gates were padlocked. Southampton is an absolute disgrace when it comes to what we have done to commemorate this event, Belfast only built the ship, most of the crew were from here and we did nothing last night - absolutely appalling !

Belfast also produce many of its crew as did Liverpool. but had rented rooms in Southampton and are counted as Southampton residents. Good for you for remembering but its not every ones cup of tea.

southy, Just curious but was that you in that photograph that was on page 6 of the Echo on Saturday, giving it the ol' commie clenched-fist salute? The one on the middle, yes?

Never see saturdays Echo was to busy, But I must correct you "the raised clenched-fist means "People Power" or "Power to the people" and yes more than likely, was it the TUSC.