Cyclist taken to hospital after car crash (From Daily Echo)

Here we go again, more moronic posts blaming one or the other without any knowlegde of what actually bhappened.

Inform Al wrote:
Here we go again, more moronic posts blaming one or the other without any knowlegde of what actually bhappened.

WTF!

once a saint wrote:

Inform Al wrote:
Here we go again, more moronic posts blaming one or the other without any knowlegde of what actually bhappened.

WTF!

Since you are the first to post, you've started it..?

Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure
" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure

" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

A lot of the so called cycling "infrastructure" is to blame, also many arrogant motorists who think cyclists don't have a right to use the road and also was the cyclist you saw this morning already on the roundabout? If so then the joining traffic had to stop for him, not the other way around, traffic joining a roundabout must give way to traffic(that includes cyclists in both situations) that is already on the roundabout or about to join from a road to the right, it is also best practice for cyclists to take a primary position on a roundabout so that they can be seen by joining traffic and to also use roundabouts (especially multi-lane ones) as if they were driving a car.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure


" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

A lot of the so called cycling "infrastructure" is to blame, also many arrogant motorists who think cyclists don't have a right to use the road and also was the cyclist you saw this morning already on the roundabout? If so then the joining traffic had to stop for him, not the other way around, traffic joining a roundabout must give way to traffic(that includes cyclists in both situations) that is already on the roundabout or about to join from a road to the right, it is also best practice for cyclists to take a primary position on a roundabout so that they can be seen by joining traffic and to also use roundabouts (especially multi-lane ones) as if they were driving a car.

No actually we were already on the roundabout and he was joinining from the next entrance(A336) and he had no intention of stopping at the rounabout, bearing in mind that this is a very busy high speed area on a major road from m27 to Fawley/ Hythe

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure



" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

A lot of the so called cycling "infrastructure" is to blame, also many arrogant motorists who think cyclists don't have a right to use the road and also was the cyclist you saw this morning already on the roundabout? If so then the joining traffic had to stop for him, not the other way around, traffic joining a roundabout must give way to traffic(that includes cyclists in both situations) that is already on the roundabout or about to join from a road to the right, it is also best practice for cyclists to take a primary position on a roundabout so that they can be seen by joining traffic and to also use roundabouts (especially multi-lane ones) as if they were driving a car.

No actually we were already on the roundabout and he was joinining from the next entrance(A336) and he had no intention of stopping at the rounabout, bearing in mind that this is a very busy high speed area on a major road from m27 to Fawley/ Hythe

In that case he should have stopped, personally if I saw another cyclist pull such a twatish stunt on such a busy roundabout (though I wouldn't need to except to hand him a card with my youtube details), I would ride after them, to be honest I'm so fed up with the minority of cyclists who jump lights intentionally that I'm going to start yelling or beeping my horn at any I see, I'm also annoyed with the ones without lights who good cyclists call "ninjas in training".

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure




" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

A lot of the so called cycling "infrastructure" is to blame, also many arrogant motorists who think cyclists don't have a right to use the road and also was the cyclist you saw this morning already on the roundabout? If so then the joining traffic had to stop for him, not the other way around, traffic joining a roundabout must give way to traffic(that includes cyclists in both situations) that is already on the roundabout or about to join from a road to the right, it is also best practice for cyclists to take a primary position on a roundabout so that they can be seen by joining traffic and to also use roundabouts (especially multi-lane ones) as if they were driving a car.

No actually we were already on the roundabout and he was joinining from the next entrance(A336) and he had no intention of stopping at the rounabout, bearing in mind that this is a very busy high speed area on a major road from m27 to Fawley/ Hythe

In that case he should have stopped, personally if I saw another cyclist pull such a twatish stunt on such a busy roundabout (though I wouldn't need to except to hand him a card with my youtube details), I would ride after them, to be honest I'm so fed up with the minority of cyclists who jump lights intentionally that I'm going to start yelling or beeping my horn at any I see, I'm also annoyed with the ones without lights who good cyclists call "ninjas in training".

Unfortunately mate its tw*ts like him that give good cyclists a bad press and make motorists hate all cyclists.
So its cyclists that need retraining rather than motorists in my opinion

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
Another one for Downdraft and Gingerwinger to blame the motorist without knowing the facts, just their inflated egos overtaking their brains as usual

Actually I'd blame the cycling "infrastructure





" (if you can even call it that as it's inadequate) for this one as it gives a false sense of security to many cyclists, hence the nickname given to the worst ones being "suicide lanes", especially the ones on roundabouts that take you across right in front of the entrance and exits or the ones that just dump you in front of stuff.

Of course blame something else rather that the arrogant attitude of many cyclist that they have a god given right to ignore the rules of the road and common sense.
Like the idiot on a bike this morning during rush hour who stuck 2 fingers up to us at the Ringwood Road roundabout as he sailed accross 3 lot of joining traffic without stopping.

A lot of the so called cycling "infrastructure" is to blame, also many arrogant motorists who think cyclists don't have a right to use the road and also was the cyclist you saw this morning already on the roundabout? If so then the joining traffic had to stop for him, not the other way around, traffic joining a roundabout must give way to traffic(that includes cyclists in both situations) that is already on the roundabout or about to join from a road to the right, it is also best practice for cyclists to take a primary position on a roundabout so that they can be seen by joining traffic and to also use roundabouts (especially multi-lane ones) as if they were driving a car.

No actually we were already on the roundabout and he was joinining from the next entrance(A336) and he had no intention of stopping at the rounabout, bearing in mind that this is a very busy high speed area on a major road from m27 to Fawley/ Hythe

In that case he should have stopped, personally if I saw another cyclist pull such a twatish stunt on such a busy roundabout (though I wouldn't need to except to hand him a card with my youtube details), I would ride after them, to be honest I'm so fed up with the minority of cyclists who jump lights intentionally that I'm going to start yelling or beeping my horn at any I see, I'm also annoyed with the ones without lights who good cyclists call "ninjas in training".

Unfortunately mate its tw*ts like him that give good cyclists a bad press and make motorists hate all cyclists.
So its cyclists that need retraining rather than motorists in my opinion

It is indeed people like that who give the rest a bad rep, I have always though that rider training should be compulsory in schools, get them into the habit of riding safely at a young age and they're unlikely to become idiots when riding later in life but there are just as many monkeys who drive cars as there are riding bikes, like the guy who overtook me on the rail crossing in Northam and I was going faster than 10mph which meant they should have waited, or the 2 **** (one was a minicab) who cut me up going down 1 hill (as I just gently coasting to get a rolling start when traffic started flowing as it takes less energy to pick up speed) only for me to pass them again while going UP the other side, I mean even in bumper to bumper traffic stretching from Bitterne to Northam and including a 5 minute break on the way up lances hill, I got from Bevois valley to Thornhill in 20 minutes, the same amount of time a car would take in normal traffic and people say bikes are slow?