Children's services boss faces grilling over planned cuts (From Daily Echo)

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Multi Partys with the same Economic and Political Policy, equals the majority loses out while the few make massive gains.

Your drivel really is so predictable....

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Your drivel really is so predictable....

Its not drivel "its what is"

southy wrote:

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Your drivel really is so predictable....

Its not drivel "its what is"

Yes, of course that's your perception which is always right and cannot be questioned as you are the superior specimen.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Your drivel really is so predictable....

Its not drivel "its what is"

Yes, of course that's your perception which is always right and cannot be questioned as you are the superior specimen.

Not a case of perception, its a case of knowing the real difference between the two systems and knowing where the center ground is, We live in a Capitalist World we all ways have done, even State Capitalism is ten times better than what we got now.

The old adage is ne'er so true. Owing to the financial situation the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Your drivel really is so predictable....

Its not drivel "its what is"

Yes, of course that's your perception which is always right and cannot be questioned as you are the superior specimen.

Not a case of perception, its a case of knowing the real difference between the two systems and knowing where the center ground is, We live in a Capitalist World we all ways have done, even State Capitalism is ten times better than what we got now.

'Hopi Indians'

'Mayan Calander'

'Socialism will save the human race'

Have the good courtesy to lose it in private please.

So from what I understand, they have told this woman to make cuts and now are scrutinising why she made the cuts?

Clearly the council is trying to shift blame and make a pr stunt to make it seem like they care and magicaly its not their fault.

Surely you should have talked to affected groups BEFORE you apply changes to the budget...

I imagine conversations go as follow:

"hey man lets cut child services budget"

"should we talk to them first?"

"nah we can blame someone else if they kick off..."

I see the budget has been not agreed yet so ive been silly ! sorry! hee heee.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Your drivel really is so predictable....

Its not drivel "its what is"

Yes, of course that's your perception which is always right and cannot be questioned as you are the superior specimen.

Not a case of perception, its a case of knowing the real difference between the two systems and knowing where the center ground is, We live in a Capitalist World we all ways have done, even State Capitalism is ten times better than what we got now.

'Hopi Indians'

'Mayan Calander'

'Socialism will save the human race'

Have the good courtesy to lose it in private please.

Socialism is the Policy of sharing, its going to happen sooner or later, as the world can not carry on like it is, full of greed and self intrest, We need to move to a Resorce Political and Economical Policy and that is Socialism.

Usual Southy baters and haters on this site, regardless of which one of the three main political tribes they support, are bound to not only disagree with him but most of them will also post insulting remarks about Peter.

But basic point he has made, that there is hardly any difference apart from their brand names between Tories and NuLabour is correct and unprincipled LibDem are basically their common denominator i.e. ideology has been replaced by meaningless sound bites and sheer opportunism.

For the good health of democracy honestly held principled opposing views can be good, sadly in main sections of our self serving political class that appear to have gone missing.

At local level most of our councillors rather than demanding proper resources from central government have opted to making ruthless cuts. On that point Southy is right.

Who do we owe money to? The banks, why? Nobody knows.
Who has to pay it back? Us,especially the poorest even if you never even owed anyone a penny.
Is this fair? NO. Why do we put up with it? Because we are all mugs!
The only people who can change things are the people who finance this global con,Us!

Unfortunately central government set the budget for Southampton (and other authorities) so whilst I will not defend labour for these cuts, it is the Tories which are forcing them to happen.

Southampton City Council are now in the position that if it is not a statutory service (required by law to be available) then it has to go to save money! Unfortunately this includes youth services. If it wasn't for the fact that SCC already sold off leisure facilities they to would be shutting!

But look on he bright side - we are still paying back over £5m for a museum...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Usual Southy baters and haters on this site, regardless of which one of the three main political tribes they support, are bound to not only disagree with him but most of them will also post insulting remarks about Peter.

But basic point he has made, that there is hardly any difference apart from their brand names between Tories and NuLabour is correct and unprincipled LibDem are basically their common denominator i.e. ideology has been replaced by meaningless sound bites and sheer opportunism.

For the good health of democracy honestly held principled opposing views can be good, sadly in main sections of our self serving political class that appear to have gone missing.

At local level most of our councillors rather than demanding proper resources from central government have opted to making ruthless cuts. On that point Southy is right.

Paint a target on yourself, you are going to get shot at.

Weren't Surestart closures on Jeremy Moulton's radar? Even after the government said they'd be safe?
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Surprise surprise, a Tory having a dig at a Labour councillor. Who would've thought it possible?!
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As we read about a "family from hell", we see the seeds sown for the next generation.

RadicalEmu wrote:
Weren't Surestart closures on Jeremy Moulton's radar? Even after the government said they'd be safe?
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Surprise surprise, a Tory having a dig at a Labour councillor. Who would've thought it possible?!
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As we read about a "family from hell", we see the seeds sown for the next generation.

Yes Surestart was going to be cut back under the Torys also

Budget cuts inflicted by a Tory led Government, imposed on the community by a Labour led council,,,,,local Government carrying the can for Central Government,,,me thinks

If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board.
There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory?
I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services?
Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says.
So what policies have you got without that one?

loosehead wrote:
If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board.
There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory?
I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services?
Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says.
So what policies have you got without that one?

If you remember rightly then you will remember the Torys intened to close 6 sure starts in Southampton, and cut the budget to the ones that was left, The Torys had all ready close the one across the road from me, and cut the budget to the one in Newlands Grounds.

loosehead wrote:
If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board. There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory? I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services? Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says. So what policies have you got without that one?

If the banks haven't got any money, why are they still paying some staff hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses and the top bosses millions of pounds in renumeration packages? I haven't noticed them suspending their dividends either. BP had to do that when they were faced with a huge bill for the clean up in Gulf of Mexico. Clearly the banks do have some options left to finance the fallout of the PPI scandal, which was after all, entirely their own fault.

thinklikealocal wrote:

loosehead wrote:
If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board. There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory? I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services? Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says. So what policies have you got without that one?

If the banks haven't got any money, why are they still paying some staff hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses and the top bosses millions of pounds in renumeration packages? I haven't noticed them suspending their dividends either. BP had to do that when they were faced with a huge bill for the clean up in Gulf of Mexico. Clearly the banks do have some options left to finance the fallout of the PPI scandal, which was after all, entirely their own fault.

You didn't hear Robert Peston on Telly today then?
The banks are going to have to sell assets like LLoyds American Assets & all bonuses will be stopped as they are paid out of profit as will all share holder Divis.
I'm as/was shocked to hear that PPI's have taken so much out of the banks they are up the creek again.
The Government has said no more help & so the above according to Peston is there only way out of this mess & they won't be worth selling until at least 2020 I'm not lying it was on the Lunchtime news on the BEEB

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board.
There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory?
I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services?
Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says.
So what policies have you got without that one?

If you remember rightly then you will remember the Torys intened to close 6 sure starts in Southampton, and cut the budget to the ones that was left, The Torys had all ready close the one across the road from me, and cut the budget to the one in Newlands Grounds.

What absolute bull so you are no different than that idiot stood outside of Sainsbury's then?

thinklikealocal wrote:

loosehead wrote:
If I remember correctly Labour & Southy accused the Tories of having plans to cut funding to Sure Start Centres & Services across the board. There was no such plan & the Pay Cut measure was put into place to ensure the very least amount of cuts to front line services would happen yet Southy's on here with some rubbish about Vote Labour get a Tory? I asked you a question before & you answered with babble so come on Southy whay prove( written) have you got that the Tories were going to scrap these services? Now the Governor of the Bank of England has said PPI's will leave the banks in debt for years to come how would your party or Thomas & Morrels Party HIT THE BANKS? As they haven't got any money or so the Bank of England says. So what policies have you got without that one?

If the banks haven't got any money, why are they still paying some staff hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses and the top bosses millions of pounds in renumeration packages? I haven't noticed them suspending their dividends either. BP had to do that when they were faced with a huge bill for the clean up in Gulf of Mexico. Clearly the banks do have some options left to finance the fallout of the PPI scandal, which was after all, entirely their own fault.

If they show news programs on I player have a look & listen to him & see what you think?

We should merger management with the Isle of Wight as the Tories were doing.That would save money for these services.
Labour miss management again.
Vote Tory in 2014 for a better managed council.