Council axes 1,500 staff but is to take on 1,000 new apprentices

Daily Echo: Council to take on 1,000 new apprentices Council to take on 1,000 new apprentices

THE leader of Hampshire County Council has announced plans to employ 1,000 apprentices over the next five years.

Tory Cllr Ken Thornber said the drive to get young adults working was “probably the most exciting initiative we shall ever take”.

He also announced plans to award ten university scholarships a year – 50 in total – to young people from poorer families.

But a leading opposition councillor criticised the proposals as being part of a “pre-election package”.

The new apprenticeships come after the council axed 1,500 jobs as part of £100m spending cuts over the past two years.

Speaking at a meeting of the full council in Winchester yesterday, Cllr Thornber said: “We all know of the plight of our young people and the scarcity of jobs for them.

“I can now announce what is probably the most exciting initiative that we shall ever take.

Hampshire County Council will employ as apprentices 1,000 young people over the next five years as our contribution to reducing their unemployment.”

The council plans to employ 200 apprentices a year, aged 16 to 25.

A report to Cabinet in December will include more details, including costs. Funding will be in the budget for 2013-14.

Cllr Thornber said the council would offer places to young people from a wide range of backgrounds with “all academic or vocational abilities”.

And it will continue to fund a special apprenticeship scheme for vulnerable care leavers which has won praise from Ofsted.

Cllr Keith House, leader of the Liberal Democrat opposition group, said the apprenticeship scheme was part of a “pre-election package”.

Cllr House said: “This is 200 apprentices a year, not a big number in a county the size of Hampshire. But Liberal Democrats welcome all action to create jobs especially from a council with a reputation for losing rather than creating jobs.”

Peter Terry, regional organiser for Unison in Hampshire, also cautiously welcomed the scheme but wanted more details.

The union boss said: “Generally apprenticeships are something we welcome so long as the young people are not being exploited and there is the prospect of full-time employment.”

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8:07am Fri 30 Nov 12

carlyb says...

cheap labour
cheap labour carlyb
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8:30am Fri 30 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

dissipative conservative
dissipative conservative OSPREYSAINT
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8:41am Fri 30 Nov 12

hulla baloo says...

carlyb wrote:
cheap labour
But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come.
The alternative is..........?
[quote][p][bold]carlyb[/bold] wrote: cheap labour[/p][/quote]But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come. The alternative is..........? hulla baloo
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8:47am Fri 30 Nov 12

ameliaS says...

So Keith House would rather the County Council delay introducing all good policies until for 6 months until after the election? What a daft idea! It's always politics with House - of course, he never makes such pronouncements in the run up to elections - "saving our green fields", - yeh, right!
So Keith House would rather the County Council delay introducing all good policies until for 6 months until after the election? What a daft idea! It's always politics with House - of course, he never makes such pronouncements in the run up to elections - "saving our green fields", - yeh, right! ameliaS
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9:05am Fri 30 Nov 12

Over the Edge says...

Cheap labour? Possibly

Opportunities for young people? Most definitely

Election bribe? It's Thornbers idea so that's a racing certainty.

Will it happen? Lets wait and see
Cheap labour? Possibly Opportunities for young people? Most definitely Election bribe? It's Thornbers idea so that's a racing certainty. Will it happen? Lets wait and see Over the Edge
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9:05am Fri 30 Nov 12

huckit P says...

Apprenticeships were once the only way into a trade and were very difficult to get onto. When I applied for an apprenticeship as an agricultural mechanic I was one of almost 200 others sitting an exam just to get shortlisted - and that was in the 60's. The apprenticeship was over 5 years and involved both day and block release at college (Eastleigh and Sparsholt) as well as working the rest of the time in the company's' workshop. Low pay during training but well worth the effort.
Let's hope the HCC apprenticeships are in worthwhile trades and not some Mickey Mouse subject.
Apprenticeships were once the only way into a trade and were very difficult to get onto. When I applied for an apprenticeship as an agricultural mechanic I was one of almost 200 others sitting an exam just to get shortlisted - and that was in the 60's. The apprenticeship was over 5 years and involved both day and block release at college (Eastleigh and Sparsholt) as well as working the rest of the time in the company's' workshop. Low pay during training but well worth the effort. Let's hope the HCC apprenticeships are in worthwhile trades and not some Mickey Mouse subject. huckit P
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9:13am Fri 30 Nov 12

Maine Lobster says...

A scheme to offer apprenticeships ought to be greeted with general enthusiasm although coming from Mr Thornber will bring innevitable cynicism.
Let's hope the training will result in proper public service jobs at the end of it.
A scheme to offer apprenticeships ought to be greeted with general enthusiasm although coming from Mr Thornber will bring innevitable cynicism. Let's hope the training will result in proper public service jobs at the end of it. Maine Lobster
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9:31am Fri 30 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call? OSPREYSAINT
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10:24am Fri 30 Nov 12

derek james says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t derek james
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10:46am Fri 30 Nov 12

Lone Ranger. says...

derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ?? Lone Ranger.
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11:03am Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

hulla baloo wrote:
carlyb wrote:
cheap labour
But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come.
The alternative is..........?
200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships.
Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years.
Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter.
We need to know more on what Thornber is up to.
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carlyb[/bold] wrote: cheap labour[/p][/quote]But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come. The alternative is..........?[/p][/quote]200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships. Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years. Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter. We need to know more on what Thornber is up to. southy
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11:14am Fri 30 Nov 12

Shoong says...

You can say it is cheap labour, and perhaps it is, but it should also be noted that it's as good as a start as any to get yourself on the ladder.

I started my career as an apprentice, best thing that could have happened to me after not fulfilling my potential at school.

It's easy to be negative about it, but there are big pros as well as cons.
You can say it is cheap labour, and perhaps it is, but it should also be noted that it's as good as a start as any to get yourself on the ladder. I started my career as an apprentice, best thing that could have happened to me after not fulfilling my potential at school. It's easy to be negative about it, but there are big pros as well as cons. Shoong
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11:26am Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third. southy
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11:27am Fri 30 Nov 12

cityboy74 says...

Usual negative posts from everyone, for what is a mildly positive move in the right direction.
Usual negative posts from everyone, for what is a mildly positive move in the right direction. cityboy74
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11:28am Fri 30 Nov 12

Torchie1 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter. Torchie1
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11:35am Fri 30 Nov 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.[/p][/quote]In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again. Torchie1
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11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter.
The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, but he still got over 200 votes for a TUSC first time out, that is good result, the next election will see an inprovement in casting votes. And with Respect coming second, there was no split in the Labour vote this time round and thats going to take a few more elections before that will happen, But the Tory Vote got split right up, with many normal Tory voters not voting. like you say it was a Labour Stong hold Labour kept this seat since 1933 so its going to be a hard nut to crack for any other party.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter.[/p][/quote]The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, but he still got over 200 votes for a TUSC first time out, that is good result, the next election will see an inprovement in casting votes. And with Respect coming second, there was no split in the Labour vote this time round and thats going to take a few more elections before that will happen, But the Tory Vote got split right up, with many normal Tory voters not voting. like you say it was a Labour Stong hold Labour kept this seat since 1933 so its going to be a hard nut to crack for any other party. southy
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11:46am Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.
Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.[/p][/quote]In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.[/p][/quote]Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit. southy
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11:47am Fri 30 Nov 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.
Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.
Yeh, I think you've wandered off the relevant tracks boys.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.[/p][/quote]In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.[/p][/quote]Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.[/p][/quote]Yeh, I think you've wandered off the relevant tracks boys. Shoong
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11:55am Fri 30 Nov 12

Cyber__Fug says...

southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ? Cyber__Fug
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12:02pm Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

cityboy74 wrote:
Usual negative posts from everyone, for what is a mildly positive move in the right direction.
The thing is nobody trust Thornber, need to know more on what he is thinking about and what is it he tends to do, after Tory Council axing 1,500 jobs, it might of cost them control of the Hampshire County council, and this could be just sound biting or replacing those lost jobs with paid slave labour.
He not even telling any one how long these 200 apprenticeships jobs will last for and if theres even a job there when the apprenticeships done there training.
[quote][p][bold]cityboy74[/bold] wrote: Usual negative posts from everyone, for what is a mildly positive move in the right direction.[/p][/quote]The thing is nobody trust Thornber, need to know more on what he is thinking about and what is it he tends to do, after Tory Council axing 1,500 jobs, it might of cost them control of the Hampshire County council, and this could be just sound biting or replacing those lost jobs with paid slave labour. He not even telling any one how long these 200 apprenticeships jobs will last for and if theres even a job there when the apprenticeships done there training. southy
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12:14pm Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by.
let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time.
The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?[/p][/quote]No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by. let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time. The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years. southy
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12:29pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by.
let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time.
The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.
I knew the excuse would be imaginative even if totally ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?[/p][/quote]No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by. let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time. The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.[/p][/quote]I knew the excuse would be imaginative even if totally ridiculous. Torchie1
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12:29pm Fri 30 Nov 12

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.
Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.
.. no, no, no, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Rotherham result: -
Labour 9,866 46.25%.
UKIP 4,648 21.79%.
BNP 1,804 8.46%.
Respect 1,778 8.34%.
Conservative 1,157 5.42%.
Ind 582 2.73%.
Lib Dem 451 2.11%.
TUSC 261 1.22%.
Ind 51 0.24%.
EDL 29 0.14%.

You really don't want to use Murdock as your news source.

You really do need to actually know your FACTS if you want to make any headway in politics.

Pathetic result for TUSC.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.[/p][/quote]In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.[/p][/quote]Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.[/p][/quote].. no, no, no, wrong, wrong, wrong. Rotherham result: - Labour 9,866 46.25%. UKIP 4,648 21.79%. BNP 1,804 8.46%. Respect 1,778 8.34%. Conservative 1,157 5.42%. Ind 582 2.73%. Lib Dem 451 2.11%. TUSC 261 1.22%. Ind 51 0.24%. EDL 29 0.14%. You really don't want to use Murdock as your news source. You really do need to actually know your FACTS if you want to make any headway in politics. Pathetic result for TUSC. freefinker
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1:22pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Sotonians_lets_pull_together says...

Are these actually new jobs?

I would have thought the council already employs a significant number of apprentices in a rolling programme, so if so, is this an expansion of this programme, or does it merely reflect the replacement of apprentices who leave their jobs or complete their apprenticeships?
Are these actually new jobs? I would have thought the council already employs a significant number of apprentices in a rolling programme, so if so, is this an expansion of this programme, or does it merely reflect the replacement of apprentices who leave their jobs or complete their apprenticeships? Sotonians_lets_pull_together
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1:40pm Fri 30 Nov 12

hulla baloo says...

southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
carlyb wrote:
cheap labour
But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come.
The alternative is..........?
200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships.
Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years.
Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter.
We need to know more on what Thornber is up to.
I think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time. This is surely better than sat on their ar5es doing nothing.
Nothing is guaranteed in this world, nor a job at the end of the apprenticeship, but at least the qualifications better their chances.
As for your saying think before I post, thats a bit rich coming from someone who has been proved wrong here so many times. I dont think you are in a position to offer advice.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carlyb[/bold] wrote: cheap labour[/p][/quote]But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come. The alternative is..........?[/p][/quote]200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships. Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years. Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter. We need to know more on what Thornber is up to.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time. This is surely better than sat on their ar5es doing nothing. Nothing is guaranteed in this world, nor a job at the end of the apprenticeship, but at least the qualifications better their chances. As for your saying think before I post, thats a bit rich coming from someone who has been proved wrong here so many times. I dont think you are in a position to offer advice. hulla baloo
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1:40pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter.
The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, but he still got over 200 votes for a TUSC first time out, that is good result, the next election will see an inprovement in casting votes. And with Respect coming second, there was no split in the Labour vote this time round and thats going to take a few more elections before that will happen, But the Tory Vote got split right up, with many normal Tory voters not voting. like you say it was a Labour Stong hold Labour kept this seat since 1933 so its going to be a hard nut to crack for any other party.
If there's one thing worse than abject failure it's making excuses for it.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]I don't think any bookmaker in the land would have offered you odds on the result being different so it's not exactly a surprise. One of the TV correspondents almost said a monkey wearing a red rosette would have taken the seat in Rotherham. What is interesting is UKIPs advances and the fact that the BNP left Southy's beloved socialists so far behind, but he'll have a good excuse for it. At a time when revolution could be fomented the 'Bradford Spring' appears to have jumped backwards in to mid-winter.[/p][/quote]The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, but he still got over 200 votes for a TUSC first time out, that is good result, the next election will see an inprovement in casting votes. And with Respect coming second, there was no split in the Labour vote this time round and thats going to take a few more elections before that will happen, But the Tory Vote got split right up, with many normal Tory voters not voting. like you say it was a Labour Stong hold Labour kept this seat since 1933 so its going to be a hard nut to crack for any other party.[/p][/quote]If there's one thing worse than abject failure it's making excuses for it. Shoong
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1:51pm Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
derek james wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?
the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t
UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists"
....... and thats the way forward ??
Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.
In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.
Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.
.. no, no, no, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Rotherham result: -
Labour 9,866 46.25%.
UKIP 4,648 21.79%.
BNP 1,804 8.46%.
Respect 1,778 8.34%.
Conservative 1,157 5.42%.
Ind 582 2.73%.
Lib Dem 451 2.11%.
TUSC 261 1.22%.
Ind 51 0.24%.
EDL 29 0.14%.

You really don't want to use Murdock as your news source.

You really do need to actually know your FACTS if you want to make any headway in politics.

Pathetic result for TUSC.
Not normally I would use Murdock lot but they was the only ones doing a live broadcast though the night at Rotherham, I had posted last night at 2-20 the result of the first count, and if your right about Labour they lost a number of votes on the recount,
Not that bad of a result for TUSC first time for them in Rotherham, Candidate never had the time scale as the others, last min again and only just made the dead line, the candidate was only a paper candidate, no canvassing no leaflets, how many years have UKIP BNP been working Rotherham and working the area, I was not expecting any thing different here for the TUSC in a Labour strong hold, wait till the next General election and see how many they improve by. Its going to take a lot more elections to crack that Labour strong hold for any party, Mind you it did not help the Torys after what Cameron said about what he thinks of Rotherham, Think the Tory voters have just told Cameron what they think of him
In Bromley Ukip done well also.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: What can those voters in Croydon North, Middlesborough and Rotherham be thinking? Voting Labour, where do they think that will get them? Conservatives coming 5th in Rotherham, 4th in Middlesborough, Libs losing their deposits, have these people no respect for our present Coalition. Have voters really lost faith in our Leader or is it just another mid election wake up call?[/p][/quote]the way forward is UKIP the morons who continue to vote liblabcon can expect more of the same sh*t[/p][/quote]UKIP !!! ....... Now what did Slippery Dave have to say about them ............. " Fruitcakes, loonies, and closet racists" ....... and thats the way forward ??[/p][/quote]Rotherham was some result, the Torys nearly lost there deposit. a recount found a few more votes that saved there deposit. The turn out was about 1/3. It was a shame the TUSC only put up a paper Candidate but still pulled over 200 votes in a Labour strong hold, Respect coming second, and BNP third.[/p][/quote]In the Rotherham results that the BBC posted the results were Labour, UKIP. BNP and in fourth place Respect. You're not often right but you appear to be wrong again.[/p][/quote]Sky news put Respect second, there was a recount ask by the Torys to save there deposit.[/p][/quote].. no, no, no, wrong, wrong, wrong. Rotherham result: - Labour 9,866 46.25%. UKIP 4,648 21.79%. BNP 1,804 8.46%. Respect 1,778 8.34%. Conservative 1,157 5.42%. Ind 582 2.73%. Lib Dem 451 2.11%. TUSC 261 1.22%. Ind 51 0.24%. EDL 29 0.14%. You really don't want to use Murdock as your news source. You really do need to actually know your FACTS if you want to make any headway in politics. Pathetic result for TUSC.[/p][/quote]Not normally I would use Murdock lot but they was the only ones doing a live broadcast though the night at Rotherham, I had posted last night at 2-20 the result of the first count, and if your right about Labour they lost a number of votes on the recount, Not that bad of a result for TUSC first time for them in Rotherham, Candidate never had the time scale as the others, last min again and only just made the dead line, the candidate was only a paper candidate, no canvassing no leaflets, how many years have UKIP BNP been working Rotherham and working the area, I was not expecting any thing different here for the TUSC in a Labour strong hold, wait till the next General election and see how many they improve by. Its going to take a lot more elections to crack that Labour strong hold for any party, Mind you it did not help the Torys after what Cameron said about what he thinks of Rotherham, Think the Tory voters have just told Cameron what they think of him In Bromley Ukip done well also. southy
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2:03pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by.
let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time.
The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.
Southy, I am fully aware what a paper candidate is.... I was a paper boy once !!

The point here, which you have totally ignored, is why is a person working 70 hours a week ? Surely if he is that busy and that much of a caring socialist then we would have shared the job with some else ?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?[/p][/quote]No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by. let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time. The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.[/p][/quote]Southy, I am fully aware what a paper candidate is.... I was a paper boy once !! The point here, which you have totally ignored, is why is a person working 70 hours a week ? Surely if he is that busy and that much of a caring socialist then we would have shared the job with some else ? Cyber__Fug
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2:05pm Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

hulla baloo wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
carlyb wrote:
cheap labour
But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come.
The alternative is..........?
200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships.
Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years.
Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter.
We need to know more on what Thornber is up to.
I think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time. This is surely better than sat on their ar5es doing nothing.
Nothing is guaranteed in this world, nor a job at the end of the apprenticeship, but at least the qualifications better their chances.
As for your saying think before I post, thats a bit rich coming from someone who has been proved wrong here so many times. I dont think you are in a position to offer advice.
But time as prove me right to many times.
"think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time."
Look at the bit where you say "skill" that could mean any thing in the work place, and is not a trade. it could be a 1 day training for a forklift ticket,
Todays apprenticeship are nothing like what they use to be, where it would take a lest a few years to learn the basics of a trade.
It would not be the first time for Thornber to pass some thing off just for sound bite
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]carlyb[/bold] wrote: cheap labour[/p][/quote]But hopefully they will learn a trade and benefit from this in years to come. The alternative is..........?[/p][/quote]200 apprentices but what kind of 200 apprenticeships. Think about hulla before you post, Thornber is not saying any thing, it sounds very much like cheap labour and the hope of no job at the end of it, and how long will those apprentices last fore. it could be a matter of weeks to years. Like the apprentices could be learning how to sweep roads and or picking up litter. We need to know more on what Thornber is up to.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time. This is surely better than sat on their ar5es doing nothing. Nothing is guaranteed in this world, nor a job at the end of the apprenticeship, but at least the qualifications better their chances. As for your saying think before I post, thats a bit rich coming from someone who has been proved wrong here so many times. I dont think you are in a position to offer advice.[/p][/quote]But time as prove me right to many times. "think you will find that apprenticeship generally means to learn and recognised skill or trade over a period of time." Look at the bit where you say "skill" that could mean any thing in the work place, and is not a trade. it could be a 1 day training for a forklift ticket, Todays apprenticeship are nothing like what they use to be, where it would take a lest a few years to learn the basics of a trade. It would not be the first time for Thornber to pass some thing off just for sound bite southy
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2:47pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by.
let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time.
The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.
If a 'paper candidate' has "no hope of winning the seat", is that why you are given the opportunity to stand at the SCC elections?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?[/p][/quote]No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by. let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time. The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.[/p][/quote]If a 'paper candidate' has "no hope of winning the seat", is that why you are given the opportunity to stand at the SCC elections? Torchie1
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2:53pm Fri 30 Nov 12

hulla baloo says...

Driving a forklift is a skill, as the licence to obtain require proves. Time, and even the same day, has also proved you wrong so many more times.
Driving a forklift is a skill, as the licence to obtain require proves. Time, and even the same day, has also proved you wrong so many more times. hulla baloo
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3:06pm Fri 30 Nov 12

southy says...

hulla baloo wrote:
Driving a forklift is a skill, as the licence to obtain require proves. Time, and even the same day, has also proved you wrong so many more times.
It is a skill I will agree with you, I have FTL in all grades up to 150 tons, and each one of them was a 2 week long coarse, but now days its just a day or two, but its still not a trade it can be apart of a trade like it is in rigging.You mean same day when some one gone to a web site that as no connection to the artical it talks about, the internet is full of such web sites, but over a period of time i come out more often right.
Tell me if Councillor Williams said this would you trust what he says, I know I would not.
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: Driving a forklift is a skill, as the licence to obtain require proves. Time, and even the same day, has also proved you wrong so many more times.[/p][/quote]It is a skill I will agree with you, I have FTL in all grades up to 150 tons, and each one of them was a 2 week long coarse, but now days its just a day or two, but its still not a trade it can be apart of a trade like it is in rigging.You mean same day when some one gone to a web site that as no connection to the artical it talks about, the internet is full of such web sites, but over a period of time i come out more often right. Tell me if Councillor Williams said this would you trust what he says, I know I would not. southy
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5:35pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Cyber__Fug says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy says...
11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12

The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week,

So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?
No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by.
let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time.
The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.
Southy, I am fully aware what a paper candidate is.... I was a paper boy once !!

The point here, which you have totally ignored, is why is a person working 70 hours a week ? Surely if he is that busy and that much of a caring socialist then we would have shared the job with some else ?
The silence is deafening !!!!

So I would assume that because he's one of yours it's okay but when anyone else does it they are greedy capitalists pigs.

It's nice to see that hypocrisy isn't just confined to the main stream party's !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: southy says... 11:43am Fri 30 Nov 12 The TUSC only put up a paper Candidate, no leafletting, no canvassing the Guys name that was on the paper was working away doing a 10 hour 7 days week, So he's basically doing the work of two people ? Is that what the "caring sharing" TUSC is all about ?[/p][/quote]No just a paper candidate thats all Cyber, or do you not know what the meaning paper candidate is known by. let me abc it for you, paper candidates are used in 2 ways, the first time outting for a political party just to test the waters, like here in the TUSC case, or when you know there is no hope of winning the seat for partys that have been around a long time. The Rotherham TUSC is a new branch, unlike Labour, Torys, Lib/dems, UKIP, BNP, Respect these partys have been in Rotherham for a number of years.[/p][/quote]Southy, I am fully aware what a paper candidate is.... I was a paper boy once !! The point here, which you have totally ignored, is why is a person working 70 hours a week ? Surely if he is that busy and that much of a caring socialist then we would have shared the job with some else ?[/p][/quote]The silence is deafening !!!! So I would assume that because he's one of yours it's okay but when anyone else does it they are greedy capitalists pigs. It's nice to see that hypocrisy isn't just confined to the main stream party's !!!!! Cyber__Fug
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