Eleven police officers attacked during New Year violence (From Daily Echo)

I spoke to a copper about Xmas once and she said that most of the local morons keep their head down as they don't want to be locked up over the festive period. She did say they then tend to go mad for New Year and this seems to prove it.

Its a shame that they have to spoil it for everyone else and attack other people.

To think the idiots in government believe they will get university educated people to do this incredibly demanding job for a measly £19,000 a year. The Police (and by that I mean those on th frontline) are being shafted from all angles at the moment, they deserve far more respect and support than is currently afforded to them. I hope the officers injured over the festive period are able to make a swift and successful return to duty and that the senior officers who see fit to provide such inadequate resources hang their heads in shame. As civillian staff, PCSO's were never intended to be put in harms way like they clearly are. What an utter shambles, I bet Sir Robert Peel is spinning in his grave.

When my uncle was a copper it was truncheon first ,questions later and you wore a proper pith helmet and greatcoat,
He used to go round all the pubs on a Friday and deal with the drunks directly.
Criminals should not have rights this is the problem.

Nicole23 wrote:
When my uncle was a copper it was truncheon first ,questions later and you wore a proper pith helmet and greatcoat,
He used to go round all the pubs on a Friday and deal with the drunks directly.
Criminals should not have rights this is the problem.

Yes but they also ensured people "slipped on the stairs" back at the station and forcing confessions to send innocent people to go to jail.

Just look at Hillsborough to see that the old ways weren't the best.

Forest Resident. It is not the senior officers who rule on manpower it is the goverment that determine the resources and then the senior officers have to determine where there manpower is used best. Yes they are being shafted not by the seniors but the Cameroons.

espanuel wrote:
Forest Resident. It is not the senior officers who rule on manpower it is the goverment that determine the resources and then the senior officers have to determine where there manpower is used best. Yes they are being shafted not by the seniors but the Cameroons.

Sorry to disagree but the senior officers do indeed have control of resourcing as that is always an operational decision, though the reduction in funding does compound the problem I agree. There are many fully warranted Police Officers who in effect are fulfilling desk jobs, processing court files or being a senior officers lackey. It cannot be right that on the flipside of this we have civilian staff such as PCSO's are put in confrontational situations, and emergency response teams (the frontlinc PC's) often operating with half a dozen officers to cover an entire policing district.

Nicole23 wrote:
When my uncle was a copper it was truncheon first ,questions later and you wore a proper pith helmet and greatcoat,
He used to go round all the pubs on a Friday and deal with the drunks directly.
Criminals should not have rights this is the problem.

Gladly nowadays officers wear modern equipment and stab vest! The asp is a far greater deterant than the silly wooden truncheon, believe me you would not want to be hit by one of those!

Forest Resident wrote:

espanuel wrote:
Forest Resident. It is not the senior officers who rule on manpower it is the goverment that determine the resources and then the senior officers have to determine where there manpower is used best. Yes they are being shafted not by the seniors but the Cameroons.

Sorry to disagree but the senior officers do indeed have control of resourcing as that is always an operational decision, though the reduction in funding does compound the problem I agree. There are many fully warranted Police Officers who in effect are fulfilling desk jobs, processing court files or being a senior officers lackey. It cannot be right that on the flipside of this we have civilian staff such as PCSO's are put in confrontational situations, and emergency response teams (the frontlinc PC's) often operating with half a dozen officers to cover an entire policing district.

Well said.