Second Waterside pub to become supermarket

Daily Echo: The Croft. The Croft.

RESIDENTS in a Waterside village were furious when they discovered that their only pub was set to become a convenience store.

Now another popular watering hole just a few miles down the road is about to suffer the same fate, fuelling fears that Britain’s “weak” planning laws are resulting in too many locals being turned into shops.

Supermarket bosses have drawn up plans to convert the former Croft pub in Langdown Lawn, Hythe, into a Tesco Express.

It comes just weeks after the Hampshire Yeoman in Blackfield closed after almost 60 years to make way for a Sainsbury’s Local.

Hythe councillor Malcolm Wade warned that plans to turn the Croft into a similar outlet could damage an existing convenience store in nearby Fairview Parade.

“I’d hate to see a new shop open, only for another one to close,” he said.

The Campaign for Real Ale (Camra) claims more than 200 pubs across the UK have been turned into convenience stores since January 2010.

Camra is urging the Government to change the planning laws, which enable watering holes to be converted without the consent of the local council.

Chief executive Mike Benner said: “Pubs are being targeted for development by supermarket chains due to non-existent planning controls that allow supermarkets to ride roughshod over the wishes of the local community.

“At a time when 18 pubs are closing every week this is damaging a great British institution.”

The Croft, part of the Hythe’s social scene since 1955, shut in November after the building was sold by the Spirit Pub Company. The former country house has already been boarded up.

A Tesco spokesman said the new store, expected to open in the next few months, would employ about 20 people.

The former pub is just a few miles from the Hampshire Yeoman, which is due to reopen next spring as a Sainsbury’s Local.

Villagers fought to save the facility, saying it had been at the heart of the community since the 1950s.

They claimed that a convenience store would attract extra traffic to Blackfield, endangering the safety of children walking to and from the village school, and also warned that some of the existing shops would be driven out of business by their new rival. But Sainsbury’s has defended the scheme, saying it will give shoppers greater choice.

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12:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

loosehead says...

So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?
So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you? After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted? loosehead
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1:03pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Totton Ric says...

RIP the British Pub, within 5 years there wont be any left !
RIP the British Pub, within 5 years there wont be any left ! Totton Ric
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1:04pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Nicole23 says...

Use it or lose it, businesses have to be sustainable what ever they sell.
Use it or lose it, businesses have to be sustainable what ever they sell. Nicole23
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1:05pm Wed 2 Jan 13

bazzeroz says...

Ok so, pubs are closing but, do we really want every vacant pub turning into a convenience store? Its about time council planners stopped the BIG 4 taking these empty pubs over. FFS how much more can they want or screw out of us? I know a boarded up pub is unsightly but a Tesco/Sainsbury/Co-o
p or, whatever, blazing illuminations 18 hours a day! How much more can we take?
Ok so, pubs are closing but, do we really want every vacant pub turning into a convenience store? Its about time council planners stopped the BIG 4 taking these empty pubs over. FFS how much more can they want or screw out of us? I know a boarded up pub is unsightly but a Tesco/Sainsbury/Co-o p or, whatever, blazing illuminations 18 hours a day! How much more can we take? bazzeroz
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1:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

sarfhamton says...

I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them. sarfhamton
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1:58pm Wed 2 Jan 13

kingnotail says...

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Exactly. Good pubs with good business don't close. Crap ones do.
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Good pubs with good business don't close. Crap ones do. kingnotail
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3:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

loosehead says...

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Not True. Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent. Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling. When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs. Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive. Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run. Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs. The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's loosehead
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4:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's
Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown.

Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Not True. Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent. Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling. When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs. Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive. Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run. Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs. The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's[/p][/quote]Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown. Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory. Linesman
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4:47pm Wed 2 Jan 13

megacycle says...

loosehead wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's
would that be the Eagle?

planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Not True. Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent. Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling. When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs. Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive. Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run. Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs. The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's[/p][/quote]would that be the Eagle? planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption. megacycle
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5:46pm Wed 2 Jan 13

loosehead says...

megacycle wrote:
loosehead wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's
would that be the Eagle?

planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption.
Yes Thank You
[quote][p][bold]megacycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Not True. Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent. Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling. When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs. Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive. Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run. Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs. The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's[/p][/quote]would that be the Eagle? planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption.[/p][/quote]Yes Thank You loosehead
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7:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

rsbkay says...

Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen
Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen rsbkay
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7:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13

davecg99 says...

loosehead wrote:
So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?
Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you? After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?[/p][/quote]Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons. davecg99
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9:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13

loosehead says...

davecg99 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?
Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons.
Sorry I was having a dig at the ones who cheered on here when the hampshire Yeoman was becoming a Sainsbury's.
Pity if it could have been bought by a Micro Brewery it wouldn't be happening.
If I lived in Hythe or near it I would boycott Sainsbury's & Tesco's.
If no one uses them & taking's are zero or close to it how long will these shops remain open?
[quote][p][bold]davecg99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you? After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?[/p][/quote]Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons.[/p][/quote]Sorry I was having a dig at the ones who cheered on here when the hampshire Yeoman was becoming a Sainsbury's. Pity if it could have been bought by a Micro Brewery it wouldn't be happening. If I lived in Hythe or near it I would boycott Sainsbury's & Tesco's. If no one uses them & taking's are zero or close to it how long will these shops remain open? loosehead
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9:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

loosehead says...

rsbkay wrote:
Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen
Over where the Lamp & Mantle was there was two other pubs that were converted to eateries these did less trade than the Lamp but the brewery/company wanted it to do food the landlord refused saying he had a good trade that landlord went so in comes another he to couldn't believe the trade don't know what happened to him.
the locals trying to keep costs down refurbished the pub themselves but still it shut to make way for a development.
It doesn't matter what the communities want it's the company making a killing & the likes Of Tesco's getting round planning law's
[quote][p][bold]rsbkay[/bold] wrote: Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen[/p][/quote]Over where the Lamp & Mantle was there was two other pubs that were converted to eateries these did less trade than the Lamp but the brewery/company wanted it to do food the landlord refused saying he had a good trade that landlord went so in comes another he to couldn't believe the trade don't know what happened to him. the locals trying to keep costs down refurbished the pub themselves but still it shut to make way for a development. It doesn't matter what the communities want it's the company making a killing & the likes Of Tesco's getting round planning law's loosehead
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10:59pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Linesman says...

Pubs, in their hey-days, sold beer and sprirts with an off-licence that sold drink to take away.

With the arrival of supermarkets, they were granted a licence to sell wine, spirits and beer, and that saw the decline in the number of people going to pubs.

Some pubs then decided to boost their income by serving food, and for some, this has been a success.

The smoking ban has has had some effect on pubs, but not as drastic as some would claim, as many non-smokers did not go to pub and they did not like to come home stinking of tobacco smoke.

Another affect is TV. Many think it better to stay at home and drink beer bought at a supermarket, watching a choice of umpteen channels on TV. A lot cheaper, thanks to the annual increase in tax on booze.
Pubs, in their hey-days, sold beer and sprirts with an off-licence that sold drink to take away. With the arrival of supermarkets, they were granted a licence to sell wine, spirits and beer, and that saw the decline in the number of people going to pubs. Some pubs then decided to boost their income by serving food, and for some, this has been a success. The smoking ban has has had some effect on pubs, but not as drastic as some would claim, as many non-smokers did not go to pub and they did not like to come home stinking of tobacco smoke. Another affect is TV. Many think it better to stay at home and drink beer bought at a supermarket, watching a choice of umpteen channels on TV. A lot cheaper, thanks to the annual increase in tax on booze. Linesman
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7:42am Thu 3 Jan 13

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's
Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown.

Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory.
Did I blame any Party?
the law is wrong which allows this to happen no planning & the locals have no say?
what ever party is in power the law needs to be changed.
Linesman why did you bring political allegiances into this?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]Not True. Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent. Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling. When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs. Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive. Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run. Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs. The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's[/p][/quote]Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown. Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory.[/p][/quote]Did I blame any Party? the law is wrong which allows this to happen no planning & the locals have no say? what ever party is in power the law needs to be changed. Linesman why did you bring political allegiances into this? loosehead
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12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

katrina_27 says...

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.
The pubs offered good service and good beer but unfortunately the breweries can get more money for the land!!
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs. They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn. These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.[/p][/quote]The pubs offered good service and good beer but unfortunately the breweries can get more money for the land!! katrina_27
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7:29pm Thu 3 Jan 13

jen1 says...

Living very close to the croft, I'm not surprised that it closed. It used to be a great pub, with a great garden but recently it went really down hill, I stopped going there and so it seems did everyone else

It's a shame someone couldn't have been found to take it over, who could have brought it back to life again.
Living very close to the croft, I'm not surprised that it closed. It used to be a great pub, with a great garden but recently it went really down hill, I stopped going there and so it seems did everyone else It's a shame someone couldn't have been found to take it over, who could have brought it back to life again. jen1
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