Second village pub to become supermarket (From Daily Echo)

So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?

RIP the British Pub, within 5 years there wont be any left !

Use it or lose it, businesses have to be sustainable what ever they sell.

Ok so, pubs are closing but, do we really want every vacant pub turning into a convenience store? Its about time council planners stopped the BIG 4 taking these empty pubs over. FFS how much more can they want or screw out of us? I know a boarded up pub is unsightly but a Tesco/Sainsbury/Co-o
p or, whatever, blazing illuminations 18 hours a day! How much more can we take?

I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Exactly. Good pubs with good business don't close. Crap ones do.

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's

loosehead wrote:

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's

Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown.

Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory.

loosehead wrote:

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's

would that be the Eagle?

planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption.

megacycle wrote:

loosehead wrote:

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's

would that be the Eagle?

planning regs need to be revised to separate retail categories properly, before we have no local pubs left. its a public health and social concern as less pubs and more shops selling cheap drink leads to excessive consumption.

Yes Thank You

Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen

loosehead wrote:
So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?

Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons.

davecg99 wrote:

loosehead wrote:
So great news for the waterside two new stores so forget the ones you have because you must want Tesco's & sainsbury's don't you?
After reading posts about The Hampshire Yeoman I wonder how many of you knew about the Croft before you posted?

Living in Hythe I am sorry to see the Croft go, but even more sorry to see yet another Tesco coming in. That means we will have 5 Tesco stores in about a 3 mile radius and I am sick and tired of seeing them opening up here, there and everywhere. Despite their claims they are far from being the cheapest supermarket and it is cheaper for us to drive to Totton and do our shopping in Asda or Morissons.

Sorry I was having a dig at the ones who cheered on here when the hampshire Yeoman was becoming a Sainsbury's.
Pity if it could have been bought by a Micro Brewery it wouldn't be happening.
If I lived in Hythe or near it I would boycott Sainsbury's & Tesco's.
If no one uses them & taking's are zero or close to it how long will these shops remain open?

rsbkay wrote:
Smoking ban !!! That's what has closed our pubs so we the voters only have ourselves to blame. Public houses were an over 18 venue for adults to enjoy the peace away from our children, husbands and wives not designed for families to entertain their offspring over a family meal, that's why we have restaurants and cafes. You want to whinge about anything go look in the mirror as we have all allowed this to happen

Over where the Lamp & Mantle was there was two other pubs that were converted to eateries these did less trade than the Lamp but the brewery/company wanted it to do food the landlord refused saying he had a good trade that landlord went so in comes another he to couldn't believe the trade don't know what happened to him.
the locals trying to keep costs down refurbished the pub themselves but still it shut to make way for a development.
It doesn't matter what the communities want it's the company making a killing & the likes Of Tesco's getting round planning law's

Pubs, in their hey-days, sold beer and sprirts with an off-licence that sold drink to take away.

With the arrival of supermarkets, they were granted a licence to sell wine, spirits and beer, and that saw the decline in the number of people going to pubs.

Some pubs then decided to boost their income by serving food, and for some, this has been a success.

The smoking ban has has had some effect on pubs, but not as drastic as some would claim, as many non-smokers did not go to pub and they did not like to come home stinking of tobacco smoke.

Another affect is TV. Many think it better to stay at home and drink beer bought at a supermarket, watching a choice of umpteen channels on TV. A lot cheaper, thanks to the annual increase in tax on booze.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

Not True.
Can't remember it's name but an old pub in town by the parks was doing great guns but the owners raised the rent to such a high rate that they would have needed to take in 1,000 people a week just to pay the rent.
Others have been making a good profit but when a supermarket chain offers an instant profit which would take years to make as a pub these companies are just selling.
When it was privately owned pubs the Land lord didn't care he was doing well had his own business & was happy the problem is the people like Punch Taverns or any other company run chain of pubs.
Bring on more micro breweries & real Ale pubs take away the inflated prices the companies charge for beer & rents to the land lords & then you'll see pubs survive.
Lamp & mantle was well patronised the locals even redecorated it but the company that owned it were offered a deal they took so not so much about customers but all to do with take the money & run.
Planning departments can't stop pubs turning into Supermarkets so those companies will pay extra to get pubs.
The Maybush is another pub that use to get packed but is going to be a Tesco's

Well, you can't blame this on the Unions or Gordon Brown.

Can't even blame it on a Labour run Southampton City Council, as both the Hampshire Yeoman and The Croft are in 'True Blue' territory.

Did I blame any Party?
the law is wrong which allows this to happen no planning & the locals have no say?
what ever party is in power the law needs to be changed.
Linesman why did you bring political allegiances into this?

sarfhamton wrote:
I live near Titchfield and we have loads of pubs.

They survive because they offer a good service, good beer and nice food. The Talisman is always packed as is the Village Inn.

These pubs are closing as no one goes to them.

The pubs offered good service and good beer but unfortunately the breweries can get more money for the land!!

Living very close to the croft, I'm not surprised that it closed. It used to be a great pub, with a great garden but recently it went really down hill, I stopped going there and so it seems did everyone else

It's a shame someone couldn't have been found to take it over, who could have brought it back to life again.