Cyclist rushed to hospital after crash in New Forest (From Daily Echo)
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A cyclist has been rushed to hospital after colliding with a car in Sway
12:34pm Sunday 13th January 2013 in News
The scene of the accident today.
A cyclist has been rushed to hospital after colliding with a car in the New Forest.
The Air Ambulance was called to the scene at around 11am this morning, following the accident near the Hare and Hounds pub, in Sway.
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
Detectives said that the road would remain closed “for some time”.
More to follow.
Comments(31)
keepontriking
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3:46pm Sun 13 Jan 13
downfader
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4:10pm Sun 13 Jan 13
sotonbusdriver wrote:Do you have to put that up here? Low sun is a myth in collisions. If people clean their windscreen inside and out and use the blinds/sunglasses approach its rare to be caught out. Standard advice. 11am is high sun even at this time of year.
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
Knowing optics (20+ years using cameras) glare only occurs when the light is impeded through the glass (eg dirt, rain, grease or damaged glass)
And no this police statement doesnt mean "fatal". Think about the family and friends who will be reading this article and possibly the comments.
J.P.M
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4:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13
keepontriking
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4:49pm Sun 13 Jan 13
But glare is a guess. Please leave this until the real cause is known and give our thoughts to the victims of this crash.
mickey01
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4:52pm Sun 13 Jan 13
sotonbusdriver wrote:if the roads are that narrow and winding then the speed should be so low that you would have time to avoid anything that appears whatever the weather
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
Torchie1
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4:53pm Sun 13 Jan 13
keepontriking
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5:05pm Sun 13 Jan 13
downfader
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6:01pm Sun 13 Jan 13
keepontriking wrote:Exactly.
And rightly so. No one knows.
Ginger_cyclist
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6:05pm Sun 13 Jan 13
stanff
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7:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13
sotonbusdriver wrote:Such utter garbage. I'm sick and tired of hearing the lame excuse about low sun. I've done my fair share of winter driving into low sun, and it rarely stops you from seeing the roads or delineating cyclists, especially if you slow down!
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
The sun was in my eyes is an excuse!
See this video, http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=b8pX52v_y
NA
Huffter
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7:31pm Sun 13 Jan 13
stanff wrote:You seem to have missed the part of Sotonbusdriver's comment that said "too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed".
sotonbusdriver wrote: Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash. ???? Police jargon for "Fatal"... As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere. These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...Such utter garbage. I'm sick and tired of hearing the lame excuse about low sun. I've done my fair share of winter driving into low sun, and it rarely stops you from seeing the roads or delineating cyclists, especially if you slow down! The sun was in my eyes is an excuse! See this video, http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=b8pX52v_y NA
stanff
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7:33pm Sun 13 Jan 13
stanff
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7:38pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Huffter wrote:Sure, you are right he does mention that. But I object to the idea that cyclists appear out of nowhere and that there is no time to react. Take a look at the video! That's me driving at 50 mph into low sun. I didn't have any problems seeing any cyclist despite driving for 2+ hours in low sun and for 1 whole hour directly into low sun. I'm sick and tired of the argument that cyclists can appear out of nowhere.
stanff wrote:You seem to have missed the part of Sotonbusdriver's comment that said "too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed".
sotonbusdriver wrote: Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash. ???? Police jargon for "Fatal"... As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere. These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...Such utter garbage. I'm sick and tired of hearing the lame excuse about low sun. I've done my fair share of winter driving into low sun, and it rarely stops you from seeing the roads or delineating cyclists, especially if you slow down! The sun was in my eyes is an excuse! See this video, http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=b8pX52v_y NA
keepontriking
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7:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13
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A cyclist is in a critical condition in hospital following a collision with a car in Pitmore Lane, Sway, about 10.50am this morning. If you witnessed this collision, or have any information that can help, please contact us on 101 quoting Operation Baroque.
Torchie1
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8:11pm Sun 13 Jan 13
downfader wrote:No-one 'knew' the facts about the two accidents last year at Holmesley and Brockenhurst but the two wheeled brigade were quick to convict the drivers via the Echo website without knowing the facts. Coroners Inquests subsequently absolved both drivers of any blame and placed the fault on the other parties. The Coroners reports seemed to have been met with a stony silence by those who were initially so quick to judge. Just consider the possibility that the accident report might not be to your liking.
keepontriking wrote:Exactly.
And rightly so. No one knows.
Sir Ad E Noid
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8:22pm Sun 13 Jan 13
downfader wrote:You obviously don't drive and you obviously have not been on the road in the Forest over the last week. The glare through my very clean and undamaged windscreen has been incredible. Not only me, but my wife and other friends have noted the strength and brightness of the Sun. Although the low Sun is strong in the Autumn, the strength and brightness of the Sun, that I mentioned above, was near midday.
sotonbusdriver wrote:Do you have to put that up here? Low sun is a myth in collisions. If people clean their windscreen inside and out and use the blinds/sunglasses approach its rare to be caught out. Standard advice. 11am is high sun even at this time of year.
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
Knowing optics (20+ years using cameras) glare only occurs when the light is impeded through the glass (eg dirt, rain, grease or damaged glass)
And no this police statement doesnt mean "fatal". Think about the family and friends who will be reading this article and possibly the comments.
keepontriking
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8:30pm Sun 13 Jan 13
If you don't you are putting other road users, your passengers, and yourself at risk of serious injury - or you may even kill them.
It would be your choice too - noone elses - yours.
downfader
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8:33pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Torchie1 wrote:Look, I aint sure what stories you're on about. What relevance has it here?
downfader wrote:No-one 'knew' the facts about the two accidents last year at Holmesley and Brockenhurst but the two wheeled brigade were quick to convict the drivers via the Echo website without knowing the facts. Coroners Inquests subsequently absolved both drivers of any blame and placed the fault on the other parties. The Coroners reports seemed to have been met with a stony silence by those who were initially so quick to judge. Just consider the possibility that the accident report might not be to your liking.
keepontriking wrote:Exactly.
And rightly so. No one knows.
The only Forest fatality that I know of last year was Mr Brummell. The driver pleaded guilty:
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/10096091
.Brother_has__no_ang
er__for_driver_who_k
illed_cyclist/
downfader
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8:34pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Sir Ad E Noid wrote:Simple question: why are you driving if you cannot see where you are going?
downfader wrote:You obviously don't drive and you obviously have not been on the road in the Forest over the last week. The glare through my very clean and undamaged windscreen has been incredible. Not only me, but my wife and other friends have noted the strength and brightness of the Sun. Although the low Sun is strong in the Autumn, the strength and brightness of the Sun, that I mentioned above, was near midday.
sotonbusdriver wrote:Do you have to put that up here? Low sun is a myth in collisions. If people clean their windscreen inside and out and use the blinds/sunglasses approach its rare to be caught out. Standard advice. 11am is high sun even at this time of year.
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
Knowing optics (20+ years using cameras) glare only occurs when the light is impeded through the glass (eg dirt, rain, grease or damaged glass)
And no this police statement doesnt mean "fatal". Think about the family and friends who will be reading this article and possibly the comments.
solomum
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8:49pm Sun 13 Jan 13
sotonbusdriver wrote:In future please think carefully before posting the word fatal. The cyclist involved is actually in hospital in a very bad way, but it is not good when it is posted on here as fatal for friends and family to read.
Pitmore Lane has been closed off while police carry out an investigation into what they called a “serious” crash.
???? Police jargon for "Fatal"...
As a motorcyclist and car driver, often it is difficult to cyclists and motorcyclist, especially at that time of day, if driving towards the sun.. As it glares so bad, that forward vision is limited, and too many drivers don't then downwardly adjust their speed to allow for small bikes appearing from nowhere.
These roads are narrow, and winding, so often by the time you see a bike or motorbike, there is nowhere to swerve to avoid, and to fast to brake...
Torchie1
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8:54pm Sun 13 Jan 13
downfader wrote:Keep searching.
Torchie1 wrote:Look, I aint sure what stories you're on about. What relevance has it here?
downfader wrote:No-one 'knew' the facts about the two accidents last year at Holmesley and Brockenhurst but the two wheeled brigade were quick to convict the drivers via the Echo website without knowing the facts. Coroners Inquests subsequently absolved both drivers of any blame and placed the fault on the other parties. The Coroners reports seemed to have been met with a stony silence by those who were initially so quick to judge. Just consider the possibility that the accident report might not be to your liking.
keepontriking wrote:Exactly.
And rightly so. No one knows.
The only Forest fatality that I know of last year was Mr Brummell. The driver pleaded guilty:
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/10096091
.Brother_has__no_ang
er__for_driver_who_k
illed_cyclist/
keepontriking
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9:04pm Sun 13 Jan 13
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A CYCLIST is fighting for his life after a collision on a New Forest road.
The 25-year-old was one of a group heading towards Pennington when the accident happened near the Hare and Hounds pub on Pitmore Lane, Sway, at around 10.50am on Sunday, January 13.
His cycle was in collision with a grey Volkswagen Golf, driven by a man from Evesham in Worcestershire and heading towards Brockenhurst.
The cyclist, from Southampton, was taken by the air ambulance to Southampton General Hospital, where police said he was in critical condition.
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More Prayers.
downfader
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9:28pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Torchie1 wrote:Its not for me to search - you're the one who made the statement, therefore you have to provide the evidence.
downfader wrote:Keep searching.
Torchie1 wrote:Look, I aint sure what stories you're on about. What relevance has it here?
downfader wrote:No-one 'knew' the facts about the two accidents last year at Holmesley and Brockenhurst but the two wheeled brigade were quick to convict the drivers via the Echo website without knowing the facts. Coroners Inquests subsequently absolved both drivers of any blame and placed the fault on the other parties. The Coroners reports seemed to have been met with a stony silence by those who were initially so quick to judge. Just consider the possibility that the accident report might not be to your liking.
keepontriking wrote:Exactly.
And rightly so. No one knows.
The only Forest fatality that I know of last year was Mr Brummell. The driver pleaded guilty:
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/10096091
.Brother_has__no_ang
er__for_driver_who_k
illed_cyclist/
I'm perfectly willing to accept that riders can cause crashes, however its nowhere near the statistical evidence. As I said above - I'm not as willing for places such as this to turn into a platform for conjecture and finger-pointing. People wouldnt accept it on stories of driver crashes, so why here..? (Rhetorical question)
Ginger_cyclist
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9:55pm Sun 13 Jan 13
keepontriking wrote:Sounds less likely that the driver didn't see him then as groups are far easier to spot than individuals.
Now from the Bournemouth Echo:
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A CYCLIST is fighting for his life after a collision on a New Forest road.
The 25-year-old was one of a group heading towards Pennington when the accident happened near the Hare and Hounds pub on Pitmore Lane, Sway, at around 10.50am on Sunday, January 13.
His cycle was in collision with a grey Volkswagen Golf, driven by a man from Evesham in Worcestershire and heading towards Brockenhurst.
The cyclist, from Southampton, was taken by the air ambulance to Southampton General Hospital, where police said he was in critical condition.
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More Prayers.
derek james
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10:13pm Sun 13 Jan 13
J_Chapman
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11:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Ginger_cyclist
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1:42am Mon 14 Jan 13
derek james wrote:If you're really a cyclist, then you should be able to understand how bad some drivers can be, cycling in groups is much safer as they act together as one, therefore they should be treated as a single vehicle.
as a cyclist and motorist i have to say it is dangerous cycling in the nf and groups of cyclists make it worse! the roads are too narrow
sterpan3
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6:17am Mon 14 Jan 13
GrahamSimmons
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11:22am Mon 14 Jan 13
keepontriking
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4:13pm Tue 15 Jan 13
Forest Resident says...
3:03pm Sun 13 Jan 13