Southampton City Council to plough £100,000 in to library services after huge cuts

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SOUTHAMPTON'S libraries have been given a reprieve by civic chiefs dishing money back out into the city sparing them from the axe.

They had been left reeling from the city council's cuts as the authority tried to find an extra £20m worth of savings, with many libraries facing slashed hours and a reduction in services.

Last night, at the second of two meetings to deliberate on the council's budget, Labour bosses began finalising plans as to how to carve up the extra £5 million they had unexpectedly received from the government.

Many libraries across the city had been threatened with a reduction in services under draconian cuts but Clllr Simon Letts said that for most of them that would not be the case after an extra £100,000 was promised.

Under the initial plans, proposed cutting opening times in some branches by more than 50 per cent - losing 120 hours and a total of 18 jobs as a result.

With a books budget slashed by £50,000 and some mobile library services stopped, the swinging cuts would free up £303,000 for the council.

But now it looks like a third of that will be going back in - the exact details will be confirmed at a meeting or Labour bosses tonight.

“It's a substantial amount of money going back in. More than 2,000 people responded to the library consultation.

“The money will be used to make changes to the services such as longer opening hours and a wider range of services available.

About two thirds of those libraries earmarked for reductions in hours will be withdrawn. There will be some reductions in hours but nowhere near as much as was initially proposed.

“The detail will be coming out over the next two or three weeks. We will formally announce the budget in 10 days time,” said Cllr Letts.

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9:50am Tue 22 Jan 13

jazzy54zz says...

£100,000 out of £5 million doesn't sound that much to me, wonder where the other £4,900,000 is going and how much is being put aside in the 'emergency fund' ??
£100,000 out of £5 million doesn't sound that much to me, wonder where the other £4,900,000 is going and how much is being put aside in the 'emergency fund' ?? jazzy54zz
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10:45am Tue 22 Jan 13

StevenGalton says...

Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep... StevenGalton
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11:20am Tue 22 Jan 13

Lone Ranger. says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
I wonder if you can give a list of the libraries and Sure Start centres that are actually closed
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]I wonder if you can give a list of the libraries and Sure Start centres that are actually closed Lone Ranger.
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12:25pm Tue 22 Jan 13

loosehead says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for?
Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget?
they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections.
so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for? Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget? they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections. so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to? loosehead
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1:37pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Outside of the Box says...

loosehead wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for?
Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget?
they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections.
so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?
The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for? Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget? they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections. so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?[/p][/quote]The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well. Outside of the Box
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2:04pm Tue 22 Jan 13

pyan says...

Perhaps a small part of the windfall could be used to save the Archaeolgy Unit?
Perhaps a small part of the windfall could be used to save the Archaeolgy Unit? pyan
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2:20pm Tue 22 Jan 13

loosehead says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
loosehead wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for?
Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget?
they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections.
so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?
The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well.
outside of the box the Tory council budgeted for a 345million cut in the budget & no cut to services & not as many job cuts as Labour has already announced so exactly how much has Labour had the budget cut?
take away what they're saving on refuse collection how much less is the cut than what the Tories budgeted for?
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for? Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget? they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections. so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?[/p][/quote]The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well.[/p][/quote]outside of the box the Tory council budgeted for a 345million cut in the budget & no cut to services & not as many job cuts as Labour has already announced so exactly how much has Labour had the budget cut? take away what they're saving on refuse collection how much less is the cut than what the Tories budgeted for? loosehead
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2:31pm Tue 22 Jan 13

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
Outside of the Box wrote:
loosehead wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for?
Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget?
they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections.
so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?
The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well.
outside of the box the Tory council budgeted for a 345million cut in the budget & no cut to services & not as many job cuts as Labour has already announced so exactly how much has Labour had the budget cut?
take away what they're saving on refuse collection how much less is the cut than what the Tories budgeted for?
Loose there was not alot of diffences between Tory and Labour cuts, just that Labour was the lesser of the evils
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]Steve they say that this £5million was more than they budgeted for? Didn't they know how much they were getting before they set out the budget? they've got this £5million plus they now have a grant which t6he Tory council applied for & Labour upped to keep weekly bin collections. so they're saving on the cost of Refuse collection so where's that saving gone to?[/p][/quote]The exact amount allocated from the central Government pot wasn't announced until 24th December 2012 by Eric Pickles Communities & Local Government Dept,,so unless they've had a crystal ball in the Civic Centre how could they have known the amount in May 2012,,,as it goes SCC got an extra £5 million in the 24th December announcement,,,which I suppose Steve Galton you knew all about as well.[/p][/quote]outside of the box the Tory council budgeted for a 345million cut in the budget & no cut to services & not as many job cuts as Labour has already announced so exactly how much has Labour had the budget cut? take away what they're saving on refuse collection how much less is the cut than what the Tories budgeted for?[/p][/quote]Loose there was not alot of diffences between Tory and Labour cuts, just that Labour was the lesser of the evils southy
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2:45pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying:

LABOURS PROMISE
2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.

Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on!

Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...
I wonder if you can give a list of the libraries and Sure Start centres that are actually closed
So Councillor ......... judging by your reluctance to respond with the list i guess that there isnt one ....... So none are shut.
.
Perhaps if they do close or reduce the opening hours you will indeed embrace the Tory prime ministers (aka Mr Slippery) vision and show how much YOU are a part of the "Big Society" and volunteer your time to help keep at least one open.
.
You really do need to realise that due to your local leaders total failure to run this City and the failed schoolboy points scoring by the likes of Moulton and Hanidides your party really is a dead duck in this City
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Labour are still planning cuts to Libraries. This is despite their fully costed manifesto saying: LABOURS PROMISE 2. We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. Labour fully knew the financial situation of the Council when making this promise - in fact their financial situation is now £5M better off thanks to central government so there can be no excuses for Labour not sticking to their word and the manifesto they were elected on! Local Conservatives never made a promise they didn't keep...[/p][/quote]I wonder if you can give a list of the libraries and Sure Start centres that are actually closed[/p][/quote]So Councillor ......... judging by your reluctance to respond with the list i guess that there isnt one ....... So none are shut. . Perhaps if they do close or reduce the opening hours you will indeed embrace the Tory prime ministers (aka Mr Slippery) vision and show how much YOU are a part of the "Big Society" and volunteer your time to help keep at least one open. . You really do need to realise that due to your local leaders total failure to run this City and the failed schoolboy points scoring by the likes of Moulton and Hanidides your party really is a dead duck in this City Lone Ranger.
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5:52pm Tue 22 Jan 13

StevenGalton says...

Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public).

My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.
Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public). My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made. StevenGalton
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6:55pm Tue 22 Jan 13

southy says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public).

My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.
So what your saying is that the people would be better off with a TUSC council than they would with a Tory or Labour council.
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public). My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.[/p][/quote]So what your saying is that the people would be better off with a TUSC council than they would with a Tory or Labour council. southy
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9:56pm Tue 22 Jan 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
StevenGalton wrote:
Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public).

My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.
So what your saying is that the people would be better off with a TUSC council than they would with a Tory or Labour council.
.. nope, I don't think he is. Just wishful thinking on your part.

And anyway, we still don't know where TUSC will get the money for 'No Cuts' because you keep refusing to tell us.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public). My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.[/p][/quote]So what your saying is that the people would be better off with a TUSC council than they would with a Tory or Labour council.[/p][/quote].. nope, I don't think he is. Just wishful thinking on your part. And anyway, we still don't know where TUSC will get the money for 'No Cuts' because you keep refusing to tell us. freefinker
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8:54am Wed 23 Jan 13

loosehead says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public).

My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.
Totally agree with you! Have been trying to get that over on many articles but they won't listen.
the insinuations of what the then Tory Council would do if they retained power are really now showing what out & out lies they were.
I look at Lidls where the Labour Councillor for that ward was against it & attacked the Tories for wanting it.
the Labour councillors who go to the Channel Island estate residents meetings supposedly were backing the residents against it ( not all residents as I was for it) yet they swept aside those promises to oppose it & voted for it?
Steve watch out for the Bio Mass as they've already given Helius a get our support clause ( you know I'm for it)
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public). My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you! Have been trying to get that over on many articles but they won't listen. the insinuations of what the then Tory Council would do if they retained power are really now showing what out & out lies they were. I look at Lidls where the Labour Councillor for that ward was against it & attacked the Tories for wanting it. the Labour councillors who go to the Channel Island estate residents meetings supposedly were backing the residents against it ( not all residents as I was for it) yet they swept aside those promises to oppose it & voted for it? Steve watch out for the Bio Mass as they've already given Helius a get our support clause ( you know I'm for it) loosehead
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9:56am Wed 23 Jan 13

Lone Ranger. says...

StevenGalton wrote:
Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public).

My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.
Mr Galton ........ Having again read the Tory manifesto and reminded myself of the Labour manifesto i can post you what they print in relation to Libraries and Sure Start.
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Conservatives:- We are ensuring that important front line services are maintained, keeping OPEN all our Sure Start centres, libraries and protecting the weekly bin collections and budgets for looking after vulnerable residents and repairing the roads and pavements.
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Labour:- We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer.
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Neither say that these will be with or without reduced hours.
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As it stands ....... and as i have already pointed out ....... NONE are closed ........... AND ......... to date this is in line with the manifesto
[quote][p][bold]StevenGalton[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger - I am not a Councillor, I attempted to become a Conservative Councillor for Millbrook in May 2012 but was beaten by the Labour Councillor who amongst other things campaigned on her parties manifesto - hence my personal feelings on what is turning out to be outright lying and with hindsight nothing more than a Labour election tactic (something already conceded by a senior Labour cabinet member during a scrutiny meeting I attended as a member of the public). My point was reducing library hours and spending is not what was promised or insinuated by Labour when they knew the budget situation - no party knew prior to the recent revelation that actually there was nearly £6M more money available than had previously been anticipated - so both parties manifestos and commitments were originally made/set on a WORSE financial situation than we actually find ourselves in - this to me makes it even more spurious that Labour plan to do what they do and I honestly can't see how Southampton Labour can justify their actions when they refuse to keep the promises they made.[/p][/quote]Mr Galton ........ Having again read the Tory manifesto and reminded myself of the Labour manifesto i can post you what they print in relation to Libraries and Sure Start. . Conservatives:- We are ensuring that important front line services are maintained, keeping OPEN all our Sure Start centres, libraries and protecting the weekly bin collections and budgets for looking after vulnerable residents and repairing the roads and pavements. . Labour:- We will keep local libraries and Sure Start centres open and expand the services they offer. . Neither say that these will be with or without reduced hours. . As it stands ....... and as i have already pointed out ....... NONE are closed ........... AND ......... to date this is in line with the manifesto Lone Ranger.
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9:59am Wed 23 Jan 13

aldermoorboy says...

Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party.
Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last.
Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you.
You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.
Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party. Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last. Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you. You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide. aldermoorboy
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11:10am Wed 23 Jan 13

Lone Ranger. says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party.
Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last.
Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you.
You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.
sadoldboy ...... Thanks for stating the obvious ..... I really didnt think that the people of Southampton will decide how they vote !! ...... Your comment was remarkable and inspirational.
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"The people will decide" .... Yes they did in May 2012 ..... and its the sad ones like you that find it hard to accept.
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As i pointed out to Mr Galton ..... The Tories in Southampton are dead in the water ....... along with their Coalition Nationally.
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Still you have a nice day reading this forum ............ Who knows you may post something of interest and informative yourself one day
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party. Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last. Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you. You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.[/p][/quote]sadoldboy ...... Thanks for stating the obvious ..... I really didnt think that the people of Southampton will decide how they vote !! ...... Your comment was remarkable and inspirational. . "The people will decide" .... Yes they did in May 2012 ..... and its the sad ones like you that find it hard to accept. . As i pointed out to Mr Galton ..... The Tories in Southampton are dead in the water ....... along with their Coalition Nationally. . Still you have a nice day reading this forum ............ Who knows you may post something of interest and informative yourself one day Lone Ranger.
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12:06pm Wed 23 Jan 13

loosehead says...

"The people decided" You had non Southampton residents in the form of Union members knocking doors telling Union & non Union members to vote Labour you had letters telling union members to vote Labour you had political strikes aimed at getting Labour into power yes we had a fair election?
a bit like bully boys knocking doors & telling you who to vote wasn't it?
Cllr Williams Cllr Jacqui Rayment Liars ask Morrel & Thomas.
Asa Thorpe thinks so little of his ward he allows/accepts the derogatory remarks made by his wife in this paper as true so why the hell should we believe a word this council & any of it's close supporters say as they're proven liars?
"The people decided" You had non Southampton residents in the form of Union members knocking doors telling Union & non Union members to vote Labour you had letters telling union members to vote Labour you had political strikes aimed at getting Labour into power yes we had a fair election? a bit like bully boys knocking doors & telling you who to vote wasn't it? Cllr Williams Cllr Jacqui Rayment Liars ask Morrel & Thomas. Asa Thorpe thinks so little of his ward he allows/accepts the derogatory remarks made by his wife in this paper as true so why the hell should we believe a word this council & any of it's close supporters say as they're proven liars? loosehead
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2:17pm Wed 23 Jan 13

aldermoorboy says...

Well said Loosehead.
Well said Loosehead. aldermoorboy
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5:19pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Lone Ranger. says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Well said Loosehead.
I think that you have caught the "Nodding dog syndrome".
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[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Well said Loosehead.[/p][/quote]I think that you have caught the "Nodding dog syndrome". . Lone Ranger.
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1:50pm Fri 25 Jan 13

lisa whitemore says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party.
Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last.
Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you.
You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.
well said aldermoorboy, southampton labour council are out only for themselves,they are a disgrace to our city!
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party. Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last. Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you. You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.[/p][/quote]well said aldermoorboy, southampton labour council are out only for themselves,they are a disgrace to our city! lisa whitemore
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1:50pm Fri 25 Jan 13

lisa whitemore says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party.
Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last.
Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you.
You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.
well said aldermoorboy, southampton labour council are out only for themselves,they are a disgrace to our city!
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Vote Tory in 2014 for an honest party. Labour in Southampton are a disgrace, putting themselves first and the public last. Lonely Ranger I think you will find the people of Southampton will decide how they vote not you. You may get a surprise in 2014, the people will decide.[/p][/quote]well said aldermoorboy, southampton labour council are out only for themselves,they are a disgrace to our city! lisa whitemore
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5:18pm Fri 25 Jan 13

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
Well said Loosehead.
I think that you have caught the "Nodding dog syndrome".
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okay 5m from the lottery.5m from fund raising,5m the council.which was for a back log of repairs left from the previous administration & had to be done as the building is a listed building so exactly was the refuse workers pay used for the Sea City Museum? who's the liar again?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Well said Loosehead.[/p][/quote]I think that you have caught the "Nodding dog syndrome". .[/p][/quote]okay 5m from the lottery.5m from fund raising,5m the council.which was for a back log of repairs left from the previous administration & had to be done as the building is a listed building so exactly was the refuse workers pay used for the Sea City Museum? who's the liar again? loosehead
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