Council acts after bus and boy collide at street market in Winchester, Hampshire

Daily Echo: The accident that prompted action to improve safety on the lower High Street. The accident that prompted action to improve safety on the lower High Street.

COUNCIL chiefs have taken action to improve safety at a street market where a bus collided with a boy.

Winchester city bosses have ordered changes to where stalls are allowed in the lower High Street so drivers and pedestrians have a better view of each other.

From today stalls must be clustered together in small groups. Barriers and signs will be installed in the gaps to encourage people to cross safely.

The changes follow a meeting yesterday between the city council, county council, police, Stagecoach bus company and the market reviewing safety measures.

Cllr Vicki Weston, the city council’s planning and transport supremo, said: “The market makes a valuable contribution to the economic vitality of the city centre and it is important that any changes we make are appropriate and seek to improve safety. Together with our partners we will closely manage the arrangements and keep the situation under review.

“Our thoughts remain with those involved in the accident and we hope that the young boy involved makes a speedy recovery.”

The boy was airlifted to hospital after the collision with the Stagecoach number three bus on Friday, January 25.

Winchester MP Steve Brine said he was pleased to see the council take action.

He said: “I’m really pleased the wakeup call of the accident has been heeded. We will have to see how this works out and I will be interested in feedback from residents but the city council has taken sensible precautionary action and deserves credit for that.”

Stagecoach South managing director Andrew Dyer, who was also at the meeting, said: “I think this will mean a significant improvement. It means that the point where anybody crosses the road is far enough away from the stalls that any driver coming past will have a better line of vision and will be able to see pedestrians, which was our main concern following the accident.”

He added that he saw no need to change the bus route.

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11:14am Sat 2 Feb 13

hulla baloo says...

Hope the lad is ok but is a crazy idea allowing market stalls to run alongside, and so close,to a bus route, asking for trouble.
Hope the lad is ok but is a crazy idea allowing market stalls to run alongside, and so close,to a bus route, asking for trouble. hulla baloo

2:25pm Sat 2 Feb 13

downfader says...

hulla baloo wrote:
Hope the lad is ok but is a crazy idea allowing market stalls to run alongside, and so close,to a bus route, asking for trouble.
Even when its wide open (like Bargate Street, Hanover Buildings in Southampton) people seem to just wander out.

It takes two to tango and when they dont toes get crushed.
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: Hope the lad is ok but is a crazy idea allowing market stalls to run alongside, and so close,to a bus route, asking for trouble.[/p][/quote]Even when its wide open (like Bargate Street, Hanover Buildings in Southampton) people seem to just wander out. It takes two to tango and when they dont toes get crushed. downfader

2:26pm Sat 2 Feb 13

downfader says...

...and obviously I wish the boy well! Sounds like it could have been much worse.
...and obviously I wish the boy well! Sounds like it could have been much worse. downfader

7:12pm Sat 2 Feb 13

cmth40 says...

dont blame the buses or market,the lad along with several others had been busy running in and out playing tag,and ignoring the traffic,as for councillor ian tait call for the buses to be stopped i,d like to state that mr tait even before you were born buses used that part and it was open to all traffic,maybe the fault lies with the we know bests that decided to remove kerbs,reduce road space,widen pavements,all very unnecessary,for years it worked very well,a waste of money,just because some bright spark decided we should be more continental,why we had a lot to offer being english thanks to our planners we no longer have a winchester to be proud of, to many food out lets,banks/building societies/charity shops that are now big businesses that claim statis but dont do what they were formed and meant for/mobile phone shops,but not much else to offer,it isnt just the town you lot have ruined,otterbourne hill is now starting to become a death trap with the water running every day,freezing up and thanks to the idiots that made the road smaller, put in chicane like monstousity that when a car slides they have no road coming down the hill to go,why was this road reduced well of course for all the cyclists that still use the road as they cant be bothered to use the path that was the reason it was sooooooooooo inportant to change a perfectly good sized road for will the councillors start to wake up and admit they are the cause of many wrongs on our roads,the next will be all the flooding that soon winchester will be a river with all the grass and tree,s being taken for over priced housing,
dont blame the buses or market,the lad along with several others had been busy running in and out playing tag,and ignoring the traffic,as for councillor ian tait call for the buses to be stopped i,d like to state that mr tait even before you were born buses used that part and it was open to all traffic,maybe the fault lies with the we know bests that decided to remove kerbs,reduce road space,widen pavements,all very unnecessary,for years it worked very well,a waste of money,just because some bright spark decided we should be more continental,why we had a lot to offer being english[pity] thanks to our planners we no longer have a winchester to be proud of, to many food out lets,banks/building societies/charity shops that are now big businesses that claim statis but dont do what they were formed and meant for/mobile phone shops,but not much else to offer,it isnt just the town you lot have ruined,otterbourne hill is now starting to become a death trap with the water running every day,freezing up and thanks to the idiots that made the road smaller, put in chicane like monstousity that when a car slides they have no road coming down the hill to go,why was this road reduced well of course for all the cyclists that still use the road as they cant be bothered to use the path that was the reason it was sooooooooooo inportant to change a perfectly good sized road for will the councillors start to wake up and admit they are the cause of many wrongs on our roads,the next will be all the flooding that soon winchester will be a river with all the grass and tree,s being taken for over priced housing, cmth40

12:25am Sun 3 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

cmth40 wrote:
dont blame the buses or market,the lad along with several others had been busy running in and out playing tag,and ignoring the traffic,as for councillor ian tait call for the buses to be stopped i,d like to state that mr tait even before you were born buses used that part and it was open to all traffic,maybe the fault lies with the we know bests that decided to remove kerbs,reduce road space,widen pavements,all very unnecessary,for years it worked very well,a waste of money,just because some bright spark decided we should be more continental,why we had a lot to offer being english thanks to our planners we no longer have a winchester to be proud of, to many food out lets,banks/building societies/charity shops that are now big businesses that claim statis but dont do what they were formed and meant for/mobile phone shops,but not much else to offer,it isnt just the town you lot have ruined,otterbourne hill is now starting to become a death trap with the water running every day,freezing up and thanks to the idiots that made the road smaller, put in chicane like monstousity that when a car slides they have no road coming down the hill to go,why was this road reduced well of course for all the cyclists that still use the road as they cant be bothered to use the path that was the reason it was sooooooooooo inportant to change a perfectly good sized road for will the councillors start to wake up and admit they are the cause of many wrongs on our roads,the next will be all the flooding that soon winchester will be a river with all the grass and tree,s being taken for over priced housing,
Say again love?
[quote][p][bold]cmth40[/bold] wrote: dont blame the buses or market,the lad along with several others had been busy running in and out playing tag,and ignoring the traffic,as for councillor ian tait call for the buses to be stopped i,d like to state that mr tait even before you were born buses used that part and it was open to all traffic,maybe the fault lies with the we know bests that decided to remove kerbs,reduce road space,widen pavements,all very unnecessary,for years it worked very well,a waste of money,just because some bright spark decided we should be more continental,why we had a lot to offer being english[pity] thanks to our planners we no longer have a winchester to be proud of, to many food out lets,banks/building societies/charity shops that are now big businesses that claim statis but dont do what they were formed and meant for/mobile phone shops,but not much else to offer,it isnt just the town you lot have ruined,otterbourne hill is now starting to become a death trap with the water running every day,freezing up and thanks to the idiots that made the road smaller, put in chicane like monstousity that when a car slides they have no road coming down the hill to go,why was this road reduced well of course for all the cyclists that still use the road as they cant be bothered to use the path that was the reason it was sooooooooooo inportant to change a perfectly good sized road for will the councillors start to wake up and admit they are the cause of many wrongs on our roads,the next will be all the flooding that soon winchester will be a river with all the grass and tree,s being taken for over priced housing,[/p][/quote]Say again love? J.P.M

12:29pm Sun 3 Feb 13

BoofleBear says...

Don't blame the buses - they have been driving up the lower end of the high street for years, even after it was partially pedestrianised. The suggestion to change the route will have a huge impact on bus users and commuters alike, especially as it has been suggested that all the buses are sent round the already congested one-way system to pick up in Friarsgate, outside of Iceland!!

I think the blame should lie wholly with the council for putting these stalls at the bottom end of town. They have been "an accident waiting to happen" ever since the start. As a pedestrian it is difficult to walk up between the shops and the stalls, especially when you have people around the stalls and also pushchairs and wheelchairs trying to get through. However, this is the same further up outside of M&S, etc. No thought has gone into how much room to give those pedestrians who just want to go about their daily business, which is probably why a lot of us go elsewhere to shop!!

I hope the young lad is recovering, however why was he in town at this time of the afternoon, surely he should have been at school?
Don't blame the buses - they have been driving up the lower end of the high street for years, even after it was partially pedestrianised. The suggestion to change the route will have a huge impact on bus users and commuters alike, especially as it has been suggested that all the buses are sent round the already congested one-way system to pick up in Friarsgate, outside of Iceland!! I think the blame should lie wholly with the council for putting these stalls at the bottom end of town. They have been "an accident waiting to happen" ever since the start. As a pedestrian it is difficult to walk up between the shops and the stalls, especially when you have people around the stalls and also pushchairs and wheelchairs trying to get through. However, this is the same further up outside of M&S, etc. No thought has gone into how much room to give those pedestrians who just want to go about their daily business, which is probably why a lot of us go elsewhere to shop!! I hope the young lad is recovering, however why was he in town at this time of the afternoon, surely he should have been at school? BoofleBear

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