Dead horse left rotting in stream at Monks Brook in Eastleigh

The horse in the stream at Monks Brook in Eastleigh

The horse in the stream at Monks Brook in Eastleigh

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A DEAD horse has been left rotting in a stream at a Hampshire beauty spot for five days, the Daily Echo can reveal.

The gruesome discovery was reported to police by a dog walker last Thursday – but the corpse was still there this morning.

Residents fear it could contaminate Monks Brook, which flows into the River Itchen at Woodmill in Southampton.

The horse is lying in the water next to Lakeside Country Park in Eastleigh.

It was found by Maureen Brown while she was walking her two dogs.

Mrs Brown, 48, of Chamberlayne Road, Eastleigh, was left so shocked she burst into tears.

She said: “I just noticed this great big white and brown thing in the stream. I couldn’t believe it was a horse. I cried when I saw it. I love animals and seeing that left me shocked.”

Other visitors to Lakeside Country Park were also disgusted that the horse had not been removed.

Theresa Denness, 48, from Eastleigh regularly walks her dog in that area. She said: “It is disgusting and worrying. What if the horse is contaminated?

“If I had made that discovery I would have been in a state of shock. It is saddening it has been left there for so long.”

Another dog walker Susie Morriss, 30, from Eastleigh, added: “It is horrible. I have never seen anything like that before here.”

Police said they had sent officers to the scene but they had determined that no crime had been committed.

A police spokesman said: “We appreciate this may cause concern for local people, however there are no further police lines of inquiry.”

He added that the police had contacted Eastleigh Borough Council, the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, the Environment Agency and the RSPCA but none have been able to help.

When contacted by the Daily Echo, the Environment Agency, which is responsible for the UK’s rivers, said it was unable to comment on whether the carcass was a health hazard. It added that it was the responsibility of the landowner to remove it.

According to Eastleigh Borough Council the land where the dead horse is lying is private.

A spokesman said: “Police and the fire service are discussing ways to remove the horse and it is on private land and not the council’s responsibility.”

An RSPCA spokesman said: “If anyone has any information on how this horse came to be lying in the stream in the park could they please call our inspector investigation line on 0300 123 8018 where you can leave a message in confidence.”

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6:51am Tue 19 Feb 13

sue 63 says...

Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot. sue 63
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7:31am Tue 19 Feb 13

letshaveabeer says...

Keebab anyone
Keebab anyone letshaveabeer
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8:25am Tue 19 Feb 13

rightway says...

sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
Well it wasn't a human being, it was a horse.
What a stupid statement to make.
[quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]Well it wasn't a human being, it was a horse. What a stupid statement to make. rightway
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8:35am Tue 19 Feb 13

Big Mac says...

A spokesman for Findus declined to comment.
A spokesman for Findus declined to comment. Big Mac
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8:38am Tue 19 Feb 13

southy says...

sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
[quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway. southy
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8:39am Tue 19 Feb 13

southy says...

Lionel P wrote:
Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.
You could tell a British Slaughter house and they would do the same.
[quote][p][bold]Lionel P[/bold] wrote: Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.[/p][/quote]You could tell a British Slaughter house and they would do the same. southy
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9:10am Tue 19 Feb 13

chunky_lover says...

What an incredibly slow news day.
What an incredibly slow news day. chunky_lover
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9:22am Tue 19 Feb 13

Yves1977 says...

chunky_lover wrote:
What an incredibly slow news day.
what are you on about - it's an interesting story, certainly unusual.
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: What an incredibly slow news day.[/p][/quote]what are you on about - it's an interesting story, certainly unusual. Yves1977
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9:23am Tue 19 Feb 13

BerryMan says...

sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture.
Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet?
[quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture. Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet? BerryMan
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9:33am Tue 19 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

Lionel P wrote:
Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.
or french - or british - dont get all ukip.
[quote][p][bold]Lionel P[/bold] wrote: Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.[/p][/quote]or french - or british - dont get all ukip. elvisimo
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9:43am Tue 19 Feb 13

StuKeith says...

Ive got a tow rope and head down there with the car and drag it out! Surely thats all thats needed?
Ive got a tow rope and head down there with the car and drag it out! Surely thats all thats needed? StuKeith
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10:02am Tue 19 Feb 13

St Retford says...

Lionel P wrote:
Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.
Yer daft racist.
[quote][p][bold]Lionel P[/bold] wrote: Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.[/p][/quote]Yer daft racist. St Retford
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10:06am Tue 19 Feb 13

sotonwinch09 says...

Why phone the police for this? What are they going to do? It's not their job to remove dead animals from streams.
Why phone the police for this? What are they going to do? It's not their job to remove dead animals from streams. sotonwinch09
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10:13am Tue 19 Feb 13

Might SS says...

Tescos are on their way to collect.
Tescos are on their way to collect. Might SS
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10:25am Tue 19 Feb 13

gladbachsaint says...

Perhaps it is a sea-horse - probably died because of the fresh water :-( Very sad.
Perhaps it is a sea-horse - probably died because of the fresh water :-( Very sad. gladbachsaint
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10:42am Tue 19 Feb 13

pepepe says...

A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet!
A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet! pepepe
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11:11am Tue 19 Feb 13

southy says...

pepepe wrote:
A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet!
Or from the Greens
[quote][p][bold]pepepe[/bold] wrote: A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet![/p][/quote]Or from the Greens southy
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11:11am Tue 19 Feb 13

DanielBrown says...

southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it? DanielBrown
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11:19am Tue 19 Feb 13

DanielBrown says...

BerryMan wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture.
Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet?
My mum said that if she had the strength to go in and move it she would! Its not really the point its the lack of effort here that is concerning.
[quote][p][bold]BerryMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture. Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet?[/p][/quote]My mum said that if she had the strength to go in and move it she would! Its not really the point its the lack of effort here that is concerning. DanielBrown
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11:36am Tue 19 Feb 13

St Retford says...

DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
[quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life. St Retford
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11:44am Tue 19 Feb 13

southy says...

St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature. southy
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11:46am Tue 19 Feb 13

Stillness says...

Strange how death is meant to be hidden away. It's a part of life that nobody can escape so why the big taboo? Could anyone find out who the landowner is and get the echo publish their name? I'm sure if it could be done that the carcass will soon be dealt with.
Strange how death is meant to be hidden away. It's a part of life that nobody can escape so why the big taboo? Could anyone find out who the landowner is and get the echo publish their name? I'm sure if it could be done that the carcass will soon be dealt with. Stillness
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11:47am Tue 19 Feb 13

sotonbusdriver says...

The Echo fail again to report that the HORSE was in the running for election in the local by elections...
It is not natural causes, but a murder by the local candidates, to swing the vote...
The Echo fail again to report that the HORSE was in the running for election in the local by elections... It is not natural causes, but a murder by the local candidates, to swing the vote... sotonbusdriver
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12:05pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Bert the Builder says...

Looks like a **** horse.
Why is it the landowner's fault though?
A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass.
And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.
Looks like a **** horse. Why is it the landowner's fault though? A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass. And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location. Bert the Builder
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12:16pm Tue 19 Feb 13

robbutler1984 says...

I'm no expert but it must be quite a task to remove a dead horse. They aren't the lightest of things. Although it would be lovely if it got moved quickly i do completely understand why it hasn't been moved.
I'm no expert but it must be quite a task to remove a dead horse. They aren't the lightest of things. Although it would be lovely if it got moved quickly i do completely understand why it hasn't been moved. robbutler1984
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12:17pm Tue 19 Feb 13

southy says...

Bert the Builder wrote:
Looks like a **** horse.
Why is it the landowner's fault though?
A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass.
And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.
just think your water that you drink as been recycled around ten times before you get to drink it.
[quote][p][bold]Bert the Builder[/bold] wrote: Looks like a **** horse. Why is it the landowner's fault though? A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass. And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.[/p][/quote]just think your water that you drink as been recycled around ten times before you get to drink it. southy
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12:23pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.
The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it. Ginger_cyclist
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12:31pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Stillness says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.
Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.[/p][/quote]Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens. Stillness
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12:31pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Bert the Builder wrote:
Looks like a **** horse.
Why is it the landowner's fault though?
A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass.
And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.
just think your water that you drink as been recycled around ten times before you get to drink it.
You'd know about taking the pi55.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert the Builder[/bold] wrote: Looks like a **** horse. Why is it the landowner's fault though? A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass. And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.[/p][/quote]just think your water that you drink as been recycled around ten times before you get to drink it.[/p][/quote]You'd know about taking the pi55. Shoong
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1:17pm Tue 19 Feb 13

burgerboy says...

no comments about flogging a dead horse yet then!!!.(;o).
no comments about flogging a dead horse yet then!!!.(;o). burgerboy
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1:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Stillness says...

burgerboy wrote:
no comments about flogging a dead horse yet then!!!.(;o).
No one would be that corny....Oh....
[quote][p][bold]burgerboy[/bold] wrote: no comments about flogging a dead horse yet then!!!.(;o).[/p][/quote]No one would be that corny....Oh.... Stillness
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1:48pm Tue 19 Feb 13

bigfella777 says...

What about the horses family? Have they been notified? Are there any suspicious circumstances? How did it die? Where did it live?
There's something fishy about this.
What about the horses family? Have they been notified? Are there any suspicious circumstances? How did it die? Where did it live? There's something fishy about this. bigfella777
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1:56pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Stillness says...

bigfella777 wrote:
What about the horses family? Have they been notified? Are there any suspicious circumstances? How did it die? Where did it live?
There's something fishy about this.
"Notify the horse's family"? Nay, I don't think so do you?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: What about the horses family? Have they been notified? Are there any suspicious circumstances? How did it die? Where did it live? There's something fishy about this.[/p][/quote]"Notify the horse's family"? Nay, I don't think so do you? Stillness
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2:03pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Niel says...

Bert the Builder wrote:
Looks like a **** horse.
Why is it the landowner's fault though?
A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass.
And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.
I thought that too, very much like one of their favoured cobs.

If there's no vardo's about the owners probably live on Monks Way or in the avirary...
[quote][p][bold]Bert the Builder[/bold] wrote: Looks like a **** horse. Why is it the landowner's fault though? A trespasser leaves horses to fend for themselves at the landowner's expense, one dies and suddenly it's down to the landowner not the horse owner to remove the carcass. And I would not like to be drinking water downstream of this location.[/p][/quote]I thought that too, very much like one of their favoured cobs. If there's no vardo's about the owners probably live on Monks Way or in the avirary... Niel
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3:05pm Tue 19 Feb 13

stephie101 says...

Stillness wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.
Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens.
The land is owned privately, it is not Eastleigh Borough Council's land
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.[/p][/quote]Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens.[/p][/quote]The land is owned privately, it is not Eastleigh Borough Council's land stephie101
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3:33pm Tue 19 Feb 13

wossit says...

DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
Its not even in the compounds of lakeside its in the Monks Brook that runs along side Stoneham Lane.
[quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]Its not even in the compounds of lakeside its in the Monks Brook that runs along side Stoneham Lane. wossit
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3:52pm Tue 19 Feb 13

littleun says...

Lionel P wrote:
Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.
I reckon it wanted a drink and slipped
[quote][p][bold]Lionel P[/bold] wrote: Just tell the Romanians. It'll be off in the back of a lorry and back in a few days as delicious beefburgers.[/p][/quote]I reckon it wanted a drink and slipped littleun
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4:15pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Ginger_cyclist says...

stephie101 wrote:
Stillness wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.
Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens.
The land is owned privately, it is not Eastleigh Borough Council's land
It''s land owned by Eastleigh Borough Council, there are properties on one side of it but the stream is not within the boundaries of those private properties but this isn't about who own the land, it's about removing the corpse, it won't contaminate any drinking water and in the current cold/mild weather it won't have any environmental impact but if it was in the summer and it was losing blood, the blood would cause a toxic algae bloom that would kill many creatures.
[quote][p][bold]stephie101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: The land owner there is Eastleigh Borough Council, Eastliegh and District Angling Club only lease the fishing rights for 2 of the lakes at Lakeside, so it's the Council who should remove it.[/p][/quote]Yet the Council is reported as saying that the horse is on private land. The plot thickens.[/p][/quote]The land is owned privately, it is not Eastleigh Borough Council's land[/p][/quote]It''s land owned by Eastleigh Borough Council, there are properties on one side of it but the stream is not within the boundaries of those private properties but this isn't about who own the land, it's about removing the corpse, it won't contaminate any drinking water and in the current cold/mild weather it won't have any environmental impact but if it was in the summer and it was losing blood, the blood would cause a toxic algae bloom that would kill many creatures. Ginger_cyclist
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5:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

southy wrote:
St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.
I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would.

But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually.

I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about.

Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.[/p][/quote]I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would. But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually. I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about. Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality. cantthinkofone
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6:19pm Tue 19 Feb 13

WalkingOnAWire says...

pepepe wrote:
A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet!
Apparently, when asked about the horse, Maria Hutchings said, "I'm a local mother of four. I'm local. And I've got four children. So I'm a local mother, of four. That's the most important thing for you to understand. Local...four. Horse...eh? No, I've only got the four children. Oh, and did I mention I was local?"
[quote][p][bold]pepepe[/bold] wrote: A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet![/p][/quote]Apparently, when asked about the horse, Maria Hutchings said, "I'm a local mother of four. I'm local. And I've got four children. So I'm a local mother, of four. That's the most important thing for you to understand. Local...four. Horse...eh? No, I've only got the four children. Oh, and did I mention I was local?" WalkingOnAWire
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6:28pm Tue 19 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

This is terrible - I NEVER thought something so terrible would happen round here. I am frightened to go out at night and I cannot get my councilllor to do anything about it.
This is terrible - I NEVER thought something so terrible would happen round here. I am frightened to go out at night and I cannot get my councilllor to do anything about it. J.P.M
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6:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13

mobrown says...

BerryMan wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture.
Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet?
I found this horse and if i had the strength to get in there and pull it out and bury it in the woods i would, anyone out there want to help me ?
[quote][p][bold]BerryMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]How do you propose they move it then? I doubt you can get vehicles close looking from the picture. Maybe you can get together with the dog walkers and get your feet wet?[/p][/quote]I found this horse and if i had the strength to get in there and pull it out and bury it in the woods i would, anyone out there want to help me ? mobrown
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6:43pm Tue 19 Feb 13

mobrown says...

sotonwinch09 wrote:
Why phone the police for this? What are they going to do? It's not their job to remove dead animals from streams.
When i phoned the police on 101 Not 999 i may add, they said i had done the right thing as this horse could have been stolen or shot or stabbed, no one knows if that happened because no one has turned it over to check the other side of it's body ! There have been many cases of horses being stolen and stabbed and dumped in hampshire !
[quote][p][bold]sotonwinch09[/bold] wrote: Why phone the police for this? What are they going to do? It's not their job to remove dead animals from streams.[/p][/quote]When i phoned the police on 101 Not 999 i may add, they said i had done the right thing as this horse could have been stolen or shot or stabbed, no one knows if that happened because no one has turned it over to check the other side of it's body ! There have been many cases of horses being stolen and stabbed and dumped in hampshire ! mobrown
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6:48pm Tue 19 Feb 13

mobrown says...

St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Not if it has been stabbed or shot, the horse is in the same position as it was when i found it, it's laying on it's side and no one can see what the other side of it looks like ! The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one !
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Not if it has been stabbed or shot, the horse is in the same position as it was when i found it, it's laying on it's side and no one can see what the other side of it looks like ! The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one ! mobrown
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7:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

Calm down Mo.
Its only a horse

What emotion do you feel when you see the terrible atrocities against humans in Mali?
Calm down Mo. Its only a horse What emotion do you feel when you see the terrible atrocities against humans in Mali? J.P.M
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7:30pm Tue 19 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
pepepe wrote:
A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet!
Apparently, when asked about the horse, Maria Hutchings said, "I'm a local mother of four. I'm local. And I've got four children. So I'm a local mother, of four. That's the most important thing for you to understand. Local...four. Horse...eh? No, I've only got the four children. Oh, and did I mention I was local?"
:-D

Nice job.
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pepepe[/bold] wrote: A major issue but no comment from the parliamentary candidates yet![/p][/quote]Apparently, when asked about the horse, Maria Hutchings said, "I'm a local mother of four. I'm local. And I've got four children. So I'm a local mother, of four. That's the most important thing for you to understand. Local...four. Horse...eh? No, I've only got the four children. Oh, and did I mention I was local?"[/p][/quote]:-D Nice job. cantthinkofone
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7:33pm Tue 19 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

mobrown wrote:
St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Not if it has been stabbed or shot, the horse is in the same position as it was when i found it, it's laying on it's side and no one can see what the other side of it looks like ! The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one !
"The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one!"

The other horse has clearly stabbed and killed his friend in a fit of rage, and done a runner.

Can you describe this other horse? I think we all need to be on our guard against this equine psycho.
[quote][p][bold]mobrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Not if it has been stabbed or shot, the horse is in the same position as it was when i found it, it's laying on it's side and no one can see what the other side of it looks like ! The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one ![/p][/quote]"The day before this horse was running around with another one and now there is no sign of the other one!" The other horse has clearly stabbed and killed his friend in a fit of rage, and done a runner. Can you describe this other horse? I think we all need to be on our guard against this equine psycho. cantthinkofone
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7:47pm Tue 19 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
southy wrote:
St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.
I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would.

But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually.

I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about.

Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.
Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep....
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.[/p][/quote]I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would. But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually. I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about. Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.[/p][/quote]Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep.... J.P.M
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7:56pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
It is only a horse. It is unimportant apart from the smell and the contamination issue. Saying that, who owns the horse?
[quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]It is only a horse. It is unimportant apart from the smell and the contamination issue. Saying that, who owns the horse? Sir Ad E Noid
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7:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
It is only a horse. It is unimportant apart from the smell and the contamination issue. Saying that, who owns the horse?
Read the posts.
Some chaps who do a fair bit of tarmacadam / wittling of clothespegs / checking that your garden shed is locked
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]It is only a horse. It is unimportant apart from the smell and the contamination issue. Saying that, who owns the horse?[/p][/quote]Read the posts. Some chaps who do a fair bit of tarmacadam / wittling of clothespegs / checking that your garden shed is locked J.P.M
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8:30pm Tue 19 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

J.P.M wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
southy wrote:
St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.
I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would.

But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually.

I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about.

Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.
Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep....
That's rather lost on me I'm afraid.

I was a bit NW of there.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.[/p][/quote]I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would. But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually. I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about. Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.[/p][/quote]Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep....[/p][/quote]That's rather lost on me I'm afraid. I was a bit NW of there. cantthinkofone
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8:44pm Tue 19 Feb 13

J.P.M says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
southy wrote:
St Retford wrote:
DanielBrown wrote:
southy wrote:
sue 63 wrote:
Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.
The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature.

Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.
While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?
It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.
Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.
I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would.

But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually.

I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about.

Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.
Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep....
That's rather lost on me I'm afraid.

I was a bit NW of there.
Dead ponies then?
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanielBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sue 63[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. If that had been a human being, Private land or not it would have been moved. All the powers that be should be ashamed of them selves.Can't believe they are leaving it there all this time. Never mind the Contamination that does not seem to matter. So is it going to just sit and rot.[/p][/quote]The trouble with people now days is that they do not know the intresting small facts of nature. Its Not Contaminating any thing, Rivers and Streams and Brooks have marine creatures that deal with dead aminals. its all part of the food chain of a waterway.[/p][/quote]While I recognize its a good point about the chain of a waterway can I just put it to you that Lakeside is the premier destination for dog walkers and outdoor leisure in Eastleigh. Many people use it including children, what kind of experience is it for them seeing a dead horse in a stream?! How would you like if your child came across it and was upset or put off nature from it?[/p][/quote]It's a good question. I would sit them down with a DVD of the Lion King and tell them it's all part of the circle of life.[/p][/quote]Then if my kids felt like that, I would go and see one of my farmer friends and take my kid out hunting rabbits and show them how to kill, clean, gut and skin a rabbit and cook it afterwards and teach them about nature.[/p][/quote]I'm not in favour of killing things for fun, and in my experience even those that are killing for a legitimate purpose (as your farmer friends are I expect) tend to take an unhealthy glee in it. So I'd not be doing as you would. But what I would do is talk to the children about the life cycle, about nature. I'd agree with them that it was a bit sad, and not very nice to see, but that death is something that happens to everything eventually. I grew up on the edge of Dartmoor, and we'd sometimes come across a dead sheep or other animal whilst out walking. Sometimes it would be recently dead, sometimes it would be just a skeleton, and sometimes somewhere in between. It wasn't a *pleasant* thing to see, but death is a fact of life and is something we should be educating our children about rather than running from with horrified shrieks, or complaining to the council about. Although admittedly it would be quite fun to march up and down outside the council offices with placards demanding that they put an end to mortality.[/p][/quote]Yes - if you grew up in Ivybridge, I am not surprised that you sometimes came across a dead sheep....[/p][/quote]That's rather lost on me I'm afraid. I was a bit NW of there.[/p][/quote]Dead ponies then? J.P.M
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9:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13

WalkingOnAWire says...

I'm waiting in anticipation for Peter Sowerby to come on this thread and say it could never have happened if the horse had been wearing a stab-proof vest.

Is that what those green horsey coats you sometimes see them wearing actually are? It's all making sense to me now!
I'm waiting in anticipation for Peter Sowerby to come on this thread and say it could never have happened if the horse had been wearing a stab-proof vest. Is that what those green horsey coats you sometimes see them wearing actually are? It's all making sense to me now! WalkingOnAWire
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10:37pm Tue 19 Feb 13

mobrown says...

I want to point out that the reason i wanted this to be reported is incase there is a horse owner out there that has had their horse stolen and may recognise it and want to lay it to rest, and the hope that there is some kind person out there that would see it and think I can help remove this horse so it can be out of the river and away from children playing, but i doubt it, most people think it's a big joke on here. I hope any of you that own pets don't ever have a pet stolen and wonder what has happened to it !!!

It will take ages to rot away, but if you are ever walking along the river itchen one day, look out for horse bones floating along it !! I have done all i can now !!
I want to point out that the reason i wanted this to be reported is incase there is a horse owner out there that has had their horse stolen and may recognise it and want to lay it to rest, and the hope that there is some kind person out there that would see it and think I can help remove this horse so it can be out of the river and away from children playing, but i doubt it, most people think it's a big joke on here. I hope any of you that own pets don't ever have a pet stolen and wonder what has happened to it !!! It will take ages to rot away, but if you are ever walking along the river itchen one day, look out for horse bones floating along it !! I have done all i can now !! mobrown
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11:52am Wed 20 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

J.P.M says...
7:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Calm down Mo.
Its only a horse

What emotion do you feel when you see the terrible atrocities against humans in Mali?”


Dont be silly. Those africans are no where near as cute as our pets and far less important to worry about. The
"what about the children!?" argument is the joker card in this pack of arguments.

There has been a lot of horsing around regarding this. I'll trott off now, tada.
J.P.M says... 7:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13 Calm down Mo. Its only a horse What emotion do you feel when you see the terrible atrocities against humans in Mali?” Dont be silly. Those africans are no where near as cute as our pets and far less important to worry about. The "what about the children!?" argument is the joker card in this pack of arguments. There has been a lot of horsing around regarding this. I'll trott off now, tada. Subject48
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12:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13

stephie101 says...

Just to let you know, the lovely ladies from the Animal Welfare team at Eastleigh Borough Council along with Hampshire Fire & Rescue's Animal Rescue team removed the horse tea-time last night.
Furthermore, this land is privately owned so all you outraged dog walkers have also been trespassing!
Just to let you know, the lovely ladies from the Animal Welfare team at Eastleigh Borough Council along with Hampshire Fire & Rescue's Animal Rescue team removed the horse tea-time last night. Furthermore, this land is privately owned so all you outraged dog walkers have also been trespassing! stephie101
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10:01pm Fri 22 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

mobrown wrote:
I want to point out that the reason i wanted this to be reported is incase there is a horse owner out there that has had their horse stolen and may recognise it and want to lay it to rest, and the hope that there is some kind person out there that would see it and think I can help remove this horse so it can be out of the river and away from children playing, but i doubt it, most people think it's a big joke on here. I hope any of you that own pets don't ever have a pet stolen and wonder what has happened to it !!!

It will take ages to rot away, but if you are ever walking along the river itchen one day, look out for horse bones floating along it !! I have done all i can now !!
Very well intentioned mo. There's nothing wrong with you reporting it.

People are taking the mick out of the Echo reporting it as a newsworthy story. It's not a reflection on you personally.
[quote][p][bold]mobrown[/bold] wrote: I want to point out that the reason i wanted this to be reported is incase there is a horse owner out there that has had their horse stolen and may recognise it and want to lay it to rest, and the hope that there is some kind person out there that would see it and think I can help remove this horse so it can be out of the river and away from children playing, but i doubt it, most people think it's a big joke on here. I hope any of you that own pets don't ever have a pet stolen and wonder what has happened to it !!! It will take ages to rot away, but if you are ever walking along the river itchen one day, look out for horse bones floating along it !! I have done all i can now !![/p][/quote]Very well intentioned mo. There's nothing wrong with you reporting it. People are taking the mick out of the Echo reporting it as a newsworthy story. It's not a reflection on you personally. cantthinkofone
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