Drug dealer Ian Rose hid £70k of cocaine in his wardrobe

Dealer hid £70k of cocaine in his wardrobe

Dealer hid £70k of cocaine in his wardrobe

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A drug dealer stashed nearly £70,000 worth of crack cocaine and heroin in his wardrobe, a court has heard.

Ian Rose, 33, from Woodmill Lane, Bitterne, Southampton, was arrested when police pulled over his car and discovered a wrap of crack cocaine.

Winchester Crown Court heard that officers later searched his house and found the huge stash of Class A drugs hidden in a rucksack in his bedroom.

There was a total of 166 grams of crack cocaine – valued at almost £40,000 – and 236 grams of heroin, valued at £28,300.

Prosecutor Gavin Sumpter said drugs paraphernalia such as scales and clingfilm was also found around the property.

More than £3,700 in cash was discovered hidden in a cardboard box and an ice cream tub, the court heard.

Rose pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply the heroin and crack cocaine, along with possession of criminal property.

Richard Griffiths, defending, said that Rose was not at the top of the pyramid when it came to drug dealing.

He added: “He’d been dealing directly for about a year or so; he got into it because he owed money to dealers himself.

“He’s not the one who holds the profit – it goes up the chain and he keeps enough to fund his own habit. He is a street-level dealer. There is no evidence of an operational or organisational role.”

Rose was arrested as part of Hampshire Police’s Operation Fortress – a major police crackdown on drug dealing in Southampton.

Judge Keith Cutler said he believed Rose played a “significant role” in supplying Class A drugs across a wide area.

He said: “In my opinion you were on the scale of a regional supplier – not just street supply, but also supply over quite a geographically large area, including supplying other suppliers.”

Rose was jailed for a total of five years for the offences.

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6:11am Sat 23 Feb 13

Lionel P says...

"Richard Griffiths, defending, said that Rose was not at the top of the pyramid when it came to drug dealing"

Yeah, right. So unless you're Pablo Escobar it should just be community service? 5 years was the right sentence for this scumbag.
"Richard Griffiths, defending, said that Rose was not at the top of the pyramid when it came to drug dealing" Yeah, right. So unless you're Pablo Escobar it should just be community service? 5 years was the right sentence for this scumbag. Lionel P
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6:11am Sat 23 Feb 13

SotonLad says...

See, stop and search works.

"Oh, what about his human rights?!"

Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up.
See, stop and search works. "Oh, what about his human rights?!" Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up. SotonLad
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7:33am Sat 23 Feb 13

Outside of the Box says...

SotonLad wrote:
See, stop and search works.

"Oh, what about his human rights?!"

Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up.
This was not a random stop and search, (Operation Fortress) this was targeted operation to rid the county of drug suppliers.

As someone who grew up in the days of the suspicion law where stop and search was part of everyday life, it was a terrible law that breeds contempt for the police, being searched because you had a bag to carry football kit wasn't much fun.

Well done Hampshire Police good work and thank you for taking this peddler of despair off the streets.
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: See, stop and search works. "Oh, what about his human rights?!" Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up.[/p][/quote]This was not a random stop and search, (Operation Fortress) this was targeted operation to rid the county of drug suppliers. As someone who grew up in the days of the suspicion law where stop and search was part of everyday life, it was a terrible law that breeds contempt for the police, being searched because you had a bag to carry football kit wasn't much fun. Well done Hampshire Police good work and thank you for taking this peddler of despair off the streets. Outside of the Box
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7:34am Sat 23 Feb 13

loosehead says...

I wonder if he helped Police in their enquiries & gave them the ones further up the chain as he had to get the drugs from some where didn't he?
or did he keep stum?
I wonder if he helped Police in their enquiries & gave them the ones further up the chain as he had to get the drugs from some where didn't he? or did he keep stum? loosehead
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8:59am Sat 23 Feb 13

mickey01 says...

come to weston thats where the pyramid is built
come to weston thats where the pyramid is built mickey01
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10:34am Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck. Inform Al
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1:05pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man. cantthinkofone
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1:33pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Turtlebay says...

Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result. Turtlebay
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1:40pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
Where does it say he's not English?

Or is the word you were really looking for 'black'?
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]Where does it say he's not English? Or is the word you were really looking for 'black'? cantthinkofone
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1:42pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us. Inform Al
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1:46pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they. cantthinkofone
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2:11pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not. Inform Al
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2:16pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.[/p][/quote]Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad. cantthinkofone
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2:18pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.
Goes to shew that Churchill was right about statistics, although there was one tw4t tried once, grassed and dealt with.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.[/p][/quote]Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.[/p][/quote]Goes to shew that Churchill was right about statistics, although there was one tw4t tried once, grassed and dealt with. Inform Al
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2:22pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.
Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.[/p][/quote]Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.[/p][/quote]Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules. Inform Al
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2:27pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.
Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules.
Is their any relevance to that?

Or are you just trying to show off how 'tough' you are?

You sound like a bad B-movie.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.[/p][/quote]Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.[/p][/quote]Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules.[/p][/quote]Is their any relevance to that? Or are you just trying to show off how 'tough' you are? You sound like a bad B-movie. cantthinkofone
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2:30pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.
You really are a very unhappy man.
You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.
Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.
Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.
Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.
Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules.
Is their any relevance to that?

Or are you just trying to show off how 'tough' you are?

You sound like a bad B-movie.
More relevant than your previous posts.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Should have been a suspended sentence, by the neck.[/p][/quote]You really are a very unhappy man.[/p][/quote]You are so wrong, I don't take drugs, my children don't take drugs and my grand children don't take drugs. Any one trying to push drugs at any of my kin will make me temporarily an unhappy man. But rest assured I would soon return to my usual happy state as the family would quickly deal with the scrote. We realised long ago not to rely on nincompoop politicians to look after us.[/p][/quote]Some of them have done. Not likely to tell you about it though are they.[/p][/quote]Not sure what they are supposed to have done, if it was to take drugs you are very wrong as the whole family is so anti drug. If they have dealt with a pusher, I'm sure I would know......or not.[/p][/quote]Statistically it's a virtual certainty, whatever they may tell their ex-police granddad.[/p][/quote]Oh and you forgot the ex para bit. I don't always follow the rules.[/p][/quote]Is their any relevance to that? Or are you just trying to show off how 'tough' you are? You sound like a bad B-movie.[/p][/quote]More relevant than your previous posts. Inform Al
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2:36pm Sat 23 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

*zing!*
*zing!* cantthinkofone
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2:54pm Sat 23 Feb 13

rightway says...

Cantthink and Al; Get a Room
Cantthink and Al; Get a Room rightway
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4:00pm Sat 23 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
ian rose? sounds pretty british to me. not anti-foreigner eh turtlebay, just a little bit erm, sheltered, shall we say then?
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]ian rose? sounds pretty british to me. not anti-foreigner eh turtlebay, just a little bit erm, sheltered, shall we say then? jonnyx
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4:13pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

jonnyx wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
ian rose? sounds pretty british to me. not anti-foreigner eh turtlebay, just a little bit erm, sheltered, shall we say then?
I thought Ian was a Scottish name by origin, so perhaps he will be a bl00dy foreigner soon.
[quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]ian rose? sounds pretty british to me. not anti-foreigner eh turtlebay, just a little bit erm, sheltered, shall we say then?[/p][/quote]I thought Ian was a Scottish name by origin, so perhaps he will be a bl00dy foreigner soon. Inform Al
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6:52pm Sat 23 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to.... kingnotail
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10:58pm Sat 23 Feb 13

sabre2th1 says...

SotonLad wrote:
See, stop and search works.

"Oh, what about his human rights?!"

Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up.
By you saying that you are basically denying all of the hard work that the police have done in tracking, tracing and investigating this guy and compiling the right evidence right down to the powder (lame pun intended...ahem)
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: See, stop and search works. "Oh, what about his human rights?!" Good stuff Hants Police. Keep it up.[/p][/quote]By you saying that you are basically denying all of the hard work that the police have done in tracking, tracing and investigating this guy and compiling the right evidence right down to the powder (lame pun intended...ahem) sabre2th1
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11:59pm Sun 24 Feb 13

MiddleOfRoad says...

kingnotail wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....
Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism.
I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit.
It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries.
In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate.
Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements.
Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group.
Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores.
Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....[/p][/quote]Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties. MiddleOfRoad
  • Score: -3

10:49am Mon 25 Feb 13

kingnotail says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too.

Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill?

I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....
Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism.
I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit.
It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries.
In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate.
Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements.
Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group.
Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores.
Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.
Well that was a lot of drivel to read through, and pointless to boot. To put it simply, to describe the guy as 'non-English' and talk of 'original coutries', when the guy has an English name and was very likely born here (no info to say he wasn't) most definitely IS racist. No one is saying he shouldn't be punished, but to start commenting on his potential origin and ethnicity is inexcusable.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....[/p][/quote]Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.[/p][/quote]Well that was a lot of drivel to read through, and pointless to boot. To put it simply, to describe the guy as 'non-English' and talk of 'original coutries', when the guy has an English name and was very likely born here (no info to say he wasn't) most definitely IS racist. No one is saying he shouldn't be punished, but to start commenting on his potential origin and ethnicity is inexcusable. kingnotail
  • Score: 2

11:47am Mon 25 Feb 13

beiroot says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Turtlebay wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....
Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.
Well said! I certainly couldn't have put it better myself.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....[/p][/quote]Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.[/p][/quote]Well said! I certainly couldn't have put it better myself. beiroot
  • Score: -1

11:47am Mon 25 Feb 13

beiroot says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Turtlebay wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.
And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....
Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.
Well said! I certainly couldn't have put it better myself.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Why are so many of these offenders non English. Look at the trials of the men who run white slaves (prostitutes), they are mostly people of non English descent too. Why not just deport the lot of them (the offenders) and let their original countries foot the bill? I'm not anti foreigner, but they must be made to understand that they are here by their choice alone, we did not invite them, and if they're going to break our laws they must accept deportation as a result.[/p][/quote]And today's award for Southampton inbred racist goes to....[/p][/quote]Where is the racism in this comment? I suggest that you understand what the definition of racism is before you, like so many other left wing apologists leap to that word. I frequently find that left wing cries of racism can be replaced by another R word - Realism. I abhor racism - As a member of an ethnic community I witness and sometimes experience racial comments. However, the overwhelming number of comments are from people within my ethnic group slagging off the country's majority host group or more recent ethnic groups who are making inroads into the domain of established ethnic groups. Mostly the comments are born of an insular culture and ignorance and do not result in any subsequent action or intent. Just doesn't fit the stereotype does it that the left wing apologists like to portray of racism emanating wholly and solely from the anglo Brit. It is my view that the average Brit is one of the most tolerant and forgiving group of people on this planet, a group that has provided so many foreigners an opportunity to live a much improved life compared to their native countries. In fact I believe that the UK is far too tolerant and has allowed too many, both UK born and foreign born, to challenge and damage the very fabric of this western society - all in the name of social tolerance and political correctness. A symptom of this damage is when inadequate people leap forward with the old unsubstantiated cliche - "racism" without any foundation with a clear intent to stifle free speech and healthy debate. Let me repeat that there is absolutely no racist content within this persons comment. The same cannot be said of your reply to the comment. Your comment is covert and systemic racism which infers that the original comment has been made by what you presume is a white Brit and by by extension only white Brits can be racist to other ethnic groups. That my friend is not so subtle racism and fits the legislative elements. Racism exists in every single ethnic community in this world and it is not confined solely to the white Brit ethnic group. Now back to this original commentary. I agree with the sentiment. If this low life piece of faeces is foreign born, whether in possession of British citizenship or not, then he should be immediately removed from any housing, social and financial benefits and deported from when he came or to his place of residence and banned for life from the UK. No appeals just remove this smell from the UK shores. Hopefully all western countries who have permitted foreign born people, whether people from my ethnic group or any other, will develop testicular fortitude or the female equivalent, jettison this overwhelming tolerance and political correctness, and start to reintroduce boundaries, structures, expectations and consequences. One such consequence is to remove any foreign born criminal who has abused the privilege of being in the UK. And if a criminal happens to be UK born then the Polce should monitor and hound these low life species until they realise that abusing society has distinct and ongoing penalties.[/p][/quote]Well said! I certainly couldn't have put it better myself. beiroot
  • Score: -1

5:25pm Mon 25 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.
Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black. cantthinkofone
  • Score: -1

8:39pm Mon 25 Feb 13

MiddleOfRoad says...

Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted.
The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum.
Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination.
Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes.
Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.
Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted. The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum. Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination. Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes. Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts. MiddleOfRoad
  • Score: -1

9:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13

loosehead says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.
Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it?
I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on.
A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men?
trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult.
then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys?
but in your books I guess she was alright?
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.[/p][/quote]Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it? I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on. A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men? trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult. then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys? but in your books I guess she was alright? loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13

loosehead says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.
Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it?
I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on.
A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men?
trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult.
then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys?
but in your books I guess she was alright?
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.[/p][/quote]Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it? I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on. A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men? trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult. then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys? but in your books I guess she was alright? loosehead
  • Score: 0

12:07am Tue 26 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted.
The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum.
Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination.
Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes.
Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.
Oh dear, my first latin master and my first sergeant major were Welsh. Bet you can't guess which lot of sheep lovers I cant tolerate. I've just been informed I'm a left wing racist.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted. The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum. Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination. Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes. Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, my first latin master and my first sergeant major were Welsh. Bet you can't guess which lot of sheep lovers I cant tolerate. I've just been informed I'm a left wing racist. Inform Al
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12:15am Tue 26 Feb 13

Inform Al says...

MiddleOfRoad wrote:
Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted.
The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum.
Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination.
Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes.
Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.
My first latin master and my first sergeant major were both Welsh. Guess which lot of sheep lovers I can't stand. Does that make me a left wing racist. Both are now deceased so perhaps it's time to become a lying right wing basser.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted. The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum. Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination. Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes. Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.[/p][/quote]My first latin master and my first sergeant major were both Welsh. Guess which lot of sheep lovers I can't stand. Does that make me a left wing racist. Both are now deceased so perhaps it's time to become a lying right wing basser. Inform Al
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8:35am Tue 26 Feb 13

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
MiddleOfRoad wrote:
Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted.
The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum.
Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination.
Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes.
Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.
My first latin master and my first sergeant major were both Welsh. Guess which lot of sheep lovers I can't stand. Does that make me a left wing racist. Both are now deceased so perhaps it's time to become a lying right wing basser.
Al there was an occasion where a comedian was taken to court over saying ( can't remember which) either Welsh,Scottish or Irish jokes the only way he got away with it was he was from that country.
When you hear sports fans saying "Got to beat the bl+ody French " or B=oody English how many realise it's a racist comment?
I want the UK to pull out of the EU & I want to stop immigration for now in many peoples books that makes me a racist or a Fascist why?
Thailand don't allow mass immigration you can be a long stay tourist who could be asked to leave at any time as they believe that Thailand is for the Thais does that make them right wing fascists or Racist?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleOfRoad[/bold] wrote: Cant is typical of the limp wristed wrist wringing apologists who have multiplied and sadly dominated the public policy debate, politics and the Civil Service. Unfortunately the voice of the non-politically correct ie the middle of the road mass majority normal person has been diminished and largely muted. The Cants of this world can only see issues thru their extremely narrow set of beliefs and are unable to take into account other contrary opinions. This is the most judgemental mob I have ever dealt with over many years of dealing with people across the entire political spectrum. Let me repeat Cant, much as this may cause you some distress, that the original commentary was not racist and did not meet even the most basic elements of prooof for the offence. You blunt assertion however was racist by inferring the commentator must naturally be white anglo making a comment against a black or brown drug dealing criminal and that only white anglos are racist. This is covert and systemic racism by inference. Incidentally I am using the left wing apologist handbook on how to identify discrimination that was widely used in the 80s to justify their views of discrimination. Seek some legal opinion and then confess your sins to all - admit you are a judgemental racist and that you will learn from your mistakes. Chances of that heartfelt apology occurring from anyone in this left wing judgemental mob is when pigs fly in the sky wearing doing somersalts.[/p][/quote]My first latin master and my first sergeant major were both Welsh. Guess which lot of sheep lovers I can't stand. Does that make me a left wing racist. Both are now deceased so perhaps it's time to become a lying right wing basser.[/p][/quote]Al there was an occasion where a comedian was taken to court over saying ( can't remember which) either Welsh,Scottish or Irish jokes the only way he got away with it was he was from that country. When you hear sports fans saying "Got to beat the bl+ody French " or B=oody English how many realise it's a racist comment? I want the UK to pull out of the EU & I want to stop immigration for now in many peoples books that makes me a racist or a Fascist why? Thailand don't allow mass immigration you can be a long stay tourist who could be asked to leave at any time as they believe that Thailand is for the Thais does that make them right wing fascists or Racist? loosehead
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5:25pm Tue 26 Feb 13

cantthinkofone says...

loosehead wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.
Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it?
I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on.
A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men?
trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult.
then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys?
but in your books I guess she was alright?
Nope, she sounds like a racist to me.

I can't fault the technical semantics of your racist vs colour prejudiced comment, but common usage prevails. Racist is commonly used to refer to someone who makes judgements solely on colour. The original commenter decided the black drug dealer was non-english, despite having a very english (or British at least) name. It's not an assumption too far to conclude that s/he made that on the basis of the man's skin.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Entirely ignoring the crucial point that the original commenter claimed not to be 'anti-foreigner', and then went on to assume that Ian Rose is 'non-english'. Presumably because he's black.[/p][/quote]Which makes him colour prejudiced not racist doesn't it? I worked behind my Rugby Clubs bar one night with a party on. A girl/Woman said she wasn't interested in any white guy she only liked black men. I said I'm not serving you as your colour prejudiced she said I'm not racist I only go out with black men? trying to get her to understand a racist is some one who can't stand a person or persons from another race ( French) no matter what colour they are & being colour prejudiced are two separate things was to difficult. then a black Rugby player went over to chat her up & she called him an Uncle Tom because he hanged around white guys? but in your books I guess she was alright?[/p][/quote]Nope, she sounds like a racist to me. I can't fault the technical semantics of your racist vs colour prejudiced comment, but common usage prevails. Racist is commonly used to refer to someone who makes judgements solely on colour. The original commenter decided the black drug dealer was non-english, despite having a very english (or British at least) name. It's not an assumption too far to conclude that s/he made that on the basis of the man's skin. cantthinkofone
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