Liberal Democrat Mike Thornton is new Eastleigh MP (From Daily Echo)

andysaint wrote:
Thats another vote for the Tories in the Commons then.

coolnesscoolness wrote:
British people have had enough, the reason why UKIP are doing so well is because we want a party to leave the EUSSR and to look after the British people

Sign this petition to restrict Bulgarian and Romanians from entering the UK:

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Over 62,000 at 100,00 it goes to Parliament

loosehead wrote:
Do the voters in Eastleigh live in the real world?
Corrupt politician now Clegg under scrutiny yet they still vote Liberal?

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

freefinker wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

.. bloody Anglo Saxons, coming over here, changing our culture and language, nicking our jobs and farms. Yep, I'll sign.

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

.. bloody Anglo Saxons, coming over here, changing our culture and language, nicking our jobs and farms. Yep, I'll sign.

We saw off the Normans, we saw off the Romans, we saw off the Saxons, we saw of the Gauls, not a very welcoming lot are we?

loosehead wrote:
Do the voters in Eastleigh live in the real world?
Corrupt politician now Clegg under scrutiny yet they still vote Liberal?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

Torchie1 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

In a recent post, someone launched a tirade about the unfairness of the system that was elected by a few pensioners and was unfair on the youngsters who hadn't voted. Mandatory voting would seem to be a good idea but you are taking away the freedom to decide not to visit the Polling Station where the protest could be registered by spoiling the paper. In reality, the moaners are bone idle but can still summon up enough energy to complain about something instead of using the voting system to change it.

Vix1 wrote:
The point I was making was that out of THOSE WHO DID VOTE, a win of 32% hardly seems huge!! The percentage is not relevant to the turnout but the total number of votes!!

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

No, not in the slightest. What an odd question.

Zeo wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

.. bloody Anglo Saxons, coming over here, changing our culture and language, nicking our jobs and farms. Yep, I'll sign.

We saw off the Normans, we saw off the Romans, we saw off the Saxons, we saw of the Gauls, not a very welcoming lot are we?

And we kept that lot out during the period of 1939-1945

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

No, not in the slightest. What an odd question.

No its not odd

AndyAndrews wrote:
Hopefully the Tories will keep their nice but dim candidate Maria Hutchings for the 2015 general election so she can be beaten again. Speaking of "nice but dim", the Tory prat Michael Gove is a dead ringer for Harry Enfield's character...

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

Torchie1 wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
The point I was making was that out of THOSE WHO DID VOTE, a win of 32% hardly seems huge!! The percentage is not relevant to the turnout but the total number of votes!!

You can present all sorts of statistics to bolster any number of arguments but the current system allows voting forms to be sent out to those registered in the affected constituency but after that there is only the persons conscience or political will to get them to do their part. The most important thing is that people are not denied the opportunity to cast a vote, but typically the supporters of the losing candidate will twist the statistics to make their loss more acceptable.

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

No, not in the slightest. What an odd question.

No its not odd

Explain how compulsory voting is contrary to democracy then.

southy wrote:

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

Late night, very bad result for TUSC must be the worse or one of the worse results they have had.
The Lib/Dems knew they had won it at 1am way before the count had finished the tellers done there job well.
53% turn out a drop of about 10% from the General election, not to bad for a by-election.
I not worried about the UKIP increase, this can not be repeated around the country, Eastleigh is a strong area for UKIP and is were they normally do there best, there worse ever result was there first one back in 1994 in Eastleigh and have taken part in the election here ever since.
Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold, it will take years before that might change.

Raxx wrote:
I'd be all for compulsory or incentivised voting, but only if there was a "No confidence in any of the above" option. Protest votes would start to have some meaning then.

For that reason, the political class are highly unlikely to ever support such an idea.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
The point I was making was that out of THOSE WHO DID VOTE, a win of 32% hardly seems huge!! The percentage is not relevant to the turnout but the total number of votes!!

You can present all sorts of statistics to bolster any number of arguments but the current system allows voting forms to be sent out to those registered in the affected constituency but after that there is only the persons conscience or political will to get them to do their part. The most important thing is that people are not denied the opportunity to cast a vote, but typically the supporters of the losing candidate will twist the statistics to make their loss more acceptable.

I was wondering how big the postal vote was in favour of the Liberal Democrat, how many might have changed their mind if they had been able to vote on the day?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

southy wrote:

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

Late night, very bad result for TUSC must be the worse or one of the worse results they have had.
The Lib/Dems knew they had won it at 1am way before the count had finished the tellers done there job well.
53% turn out a drop of about 10% from the General election, not to bad for a by-election.
I not worried about the UKIP increase, this can not be repeated around the country, Eastleigh is a strong area for UKIP and is were they normally do there best, there worse ever result was there first one back in 1994 in Eastleigh and have taken part in the election here ever since.
Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold, it will take years before that might change.

Don't worry about it, victim of circumstance, and 10 other no hopers, try changing the Party name to The Revolutionary Labour Movement, or something catchy, it would make a World of difference.

southy wrote:

localnews wrote:
Where's Southy this morning ??? I know he'll have a spin on how his parties 62 votes was a moral victory LOL

Late night, very bad result for TUSC must be the worse or one of the worse results they have had.
The Lib/Dems knew they had won it at 1am way before the count had finished the tellers done there job well.
53% turn out a drop of about 10% from the General election, not to bad for a by-election.
I not worried about the UKIP increase, this can not be repeated around the country, Eastleigh is a strong area for UKIP and is were they normally do there best, there worse ever result was there first one back in 1994 in Eastleigh and have taken part in the election here ever since.
Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold, it will take years before that might change.

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

This area as all ways been right wing, have you ever look at the area this covers, a area of a high number of business men and small business owners live with this Eastleigh constituency (it strenches right the way down to the banks of the river Hamble)

MBHants wrote:

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

This area as all ways been right wing, have you ever look at the area this covers, a area of a high number of business men and small business owners live with this Eastleigh constituency (it strenches right the way down to the banks of the river Hamble)

Are you saying that these dastardly mill owners are numbering in the thousands?

Are you also agreeing with my sarcastic suggestion that LD are right wing?

If so, maybe you need to recalibrate your view in line with the real world...

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

MBHants wrote:

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

This area as all ways been right wing, have you ever look at the area this covers, a area of a high number of business men and small business owners live with this Eastleigh constituency (it strenches right the way down to the banks of the river Hamble)

Are you saying that these dastardly mill owners are numbering in the thousands?

Are you also agreeing with my sarcastic suggestion that LD are right wing?

If so, maybe you need to recalibrate your view in line with the real world...

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

This area as all ways been right wing, have you ever look at the area this covers, a area of a high number of business men and small business owners live with this Eastleigh constituency (it strenches right the way down to the banks of the river Hamble)

Are you saying that these dastardly mill owners are numbering in the thousands?

Are you also agreeing with my sarcastic suggestion that LD are right wing?

If so, maybe you need to recalibrate your view in line with the real world...

What and give people no choice what so ever at lest the TUSC do give people the only real choice.
And yes the LD are right wing

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

MBHants wrote:

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:

southy wrote:

MBHants wrote:
Southy said:
"Eastleigh is a right wing strong hold"

Yeah and they proved that voting those fascist far right Lib Dems in again...

C'mon face it, the values the TUSC stand for are just no longer popular. Britain is moving on from the "working class majority" to a stronger and educated middle class.
It's about pulling everyone upwards in all aspects of society, rather than trying to pull those at the top down.

This area as all ways been right wing, have you ever look at the area this covers, a area of a high number of business men and small business owners live with this Eastleigh constituency (it strenches right the way down to the banks of the river Hamble)

Are you saying that these dastardly mill owners are numbering in the thousands?

Are you also agreeing with my sarcastic suggestion that LD are right wing?

If so, maybe you need to recalibrate your view in line with the real world...

What and give people no choice what so ever at lest the TUSC do give people the only real choice.
And yes the LD are right wing

I admire you for standing up for what you believe in and actually getting involved unlike so many of us who debate and vote, but nothing more.

But unless you are able to view the world in realistic terms, the "real choice" you offer the electorate is as valid an option as the Monster Raving Party.

The current party line from the likes of TUSC are so far removed from the reality of modern people's lives that it's quite impressive you managed 62 votes. You are fielding candidates who would make me look for Thatcher et al on the ballot, as it feels like I'm in a time warp...

I expect come next election the coal mine closures and poll tax will be TUSC's leading issues?

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

None that carry the name TUSC but there are 39 IL (are part of the TUSC) that supports the TUSC that are MPs

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Raxx wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting about compulsary voting ..... Why ?
.
Just yesterday a Tory poster stated that he was delighted that we lived a democracy ................... And today another Tory poster wants it to be compulsary voting.
.
Doesnt one contradict the other

No, not in the slightest. What an odd question.

No its not odd

Explain how compulsory voting is contrary to democracy then.

If there was only one candidate it would be a dictatorship!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

Sorry don't understand your banter squire, can you elucidate?

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

None that carry the name TUSC but there are 39 IL (are part of the TUSC) that supports the TUSC that are MPs

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

IronLady2010 wrote:

southy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

None that carry the name TUSC but there are 39 IL (are part of the TUSC) that supports the TUSC that are MPs

Really??Conservative

303
Labour 256
Liberal Democrat 57
Democratic Unionist 8
Scottish National 6
Sinn Fein 4
Plaid Cymru 3
Social Democratic & Labour 3
Alliance 1
Green 1
Respect 1
Independent 3
Speaker & 3 Deputies* 4
Vacant 1
Total number of seats 649
Current working Government Majority** 79

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

Sorry don't understand your banter squire, can you elucidate?

LMGTFY

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Rockhopper wrote:
UKIP the real winners in the Eastleigh election.
No longer just a protest vote after taking huge number of votes from all parties.
The only party connecting with the issues local people are concerned about.
Time to end the unlimited pressure being put on local services, NHS, schools, housing and welfare.
Keep promoting and voting UKIP in future elections in order to close the open door immigration policy.
The time is near for the first UKIP MP in in parliament.

and probley there only one

I'm not close to a library at the moment so I can't easily check up on how many Tusc MPs there are. Can you help with this one?

The answer is, we just don't know. There could be some subversive elements within. What is the UKIP Policy on the The Falkland Islands?

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

freefinker wrote:

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

Beaker people!! Spit.

Bloody 'Johnny come lately' immigrant mob.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Raxx wrote:
I want to sign a petition to deport Lolkip voters.

As for Eastleigh - The Lib Dems? Really? Have you all been living under a rock or something? Staggering idiocy.

Or just maybe your blinkered view is the wrong one, all a matter of opinion.

Beaker jobs for beaker people!!!

My beaker ancestors didn't lay down their lives against those Hallstatt upstarts just so that Lolkip could betray everything they stood for.

Sorry don't understand your banter squire, can you elucidate?

LMGTFY

That's no help at all, try in basic English please.

elvisimo wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

Ukip immigration policy is indeed xenophobic racist and quite frightening.
However if you want a real laugh look up their policies on tax, national insurance, prisons and educations. These guys are complete idiots.
The problem is, the lazy masses can be bothered to look into this. Instead they moan about foreigners taking jobs that people born and bred here think are beneath them.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

Dresnez wrote:

elvisimo wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

Ukip immigration policy is indeed xenophobic racist and quite frightening.
However if you want a real laugh look up their policies on tax, national insurance, prisons and educations. These guys are complete idiots.
The problem is, the lazy masses can be bothered to look into this. Instead they moan about foreigners taking jobs that people born and bred here think are beneath them.

I have posted on here before about UKIPs tax policy where they abolish NI (once it becomes a tax instead of National INSURANCE then you lose entitlement to a pension etc)

A flat rate tax of 31% will be very Punitive for Pensioners who currently pay 20%.

At least UKIP have put their cards on the table which is more than the Janus head two faced Cameron has done.

UKIP for a party with little or no funding have done brilliantly. They are continually campaigning (tiresome I find) and putting their message out there.

They come across as the reasonable man, but there are some real nasties in their manifesto, though most will think they agree with it till they are on the receiving end. People are desperate and want to believe in UKIP because the rest are a let down.

We have a generation of young people who are rightly dissatisfied with the lack of job prospects and immigration has driven down wages and driven up unemployment.

NOT the immigrants fault who had the gumption to come here and do the best that they can for themselves - It is the fault of successive governments for not putting in measures to restrict it.

These young ones will vote UKIP. They know nothing of Hitler's rise to fame. Hitler did wonders for the German economy, cementing his future but there was a very very dear price to pay.

LABOUR HAVE NO POLICIES - they find fault with the Tory Boys but are totally ineffective when it comes to promoting what they stand for and what they would do instead. They have to go out there and sell themselves.

They need to get the press on side too. Press is very right wing which has helped UKIP sell their policies.

Labour have to get up off their butts if they are to make any headway.

I had always hoped the LibDems would rise up, but they prostituted their values to get in bed with the Tory boys.

LibDems have managed to lower taxes for us all and might have achieved more good stuff but are hampered by the Tory boys. The press cultivates public opinion, and can make or break a political party.

We cannot vote for policies we have not been told of.

loosehead wrote:
Do the voters in Eastleigh live in the real world?
Corrupt politician now Clegg under scrutiny yet they still vote Liberal?

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

Tom Redpath wrote:

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

Didn't have any riots or burning in Eastleigh, we just treat arrogant toffs the way they deserve. " I've bought Ikea furniture " , at B&Q HQ !

loosehead wrote:

Tom Redpath wrote:

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Vix1 wrote:
To be honest. Getting 32% of the votes hardly seems a huge win! What it tells me is that there is a lot more division over which party should have won the seat. Small victory I would say.

What do you suggest? Compulsory voting? Proportional Representation, Alternative Vote, Two Round System? So many ways to chose from. Which is the best method to ensure the right result? I don't know, shall we have a vote on it? If so what method shall we use?

Osprey maybe we should go Australia's way & make it compulsory to vote?
It is against the law not to vote & you will be arrested if you don't vote?
look at the riots we've had & ask yourself how many of those moaning & burning & rioting actually voted?
maybe we wouldn't have a coalition in power now but at least people can moan with a clear conscience .
I get annoyed with people writing into papers in letter form or posts moaning about their lot in life or the fact they might have to work for a living yet they don't vote.
We end up with councils where only a third voted or MP's where only 52% voted & the party that won are under scrutiny how & why did they win?

Didn't have any riots or burning in Eastleigh, we just treat arrogant toffs the way they deserve. " I've bought Ikea furniture " , at B&Q HQ !

I hope your not referring to me as a "Toff" as I'm far from being one.

LancashireLad wrote:
Quote: "The UKIP posters are from a PR company working on behalf of UKIP".

What a lie this is. I work for no one I belong to no political party, I am an unpaid political writer and activists and at this moment in time I support UKIP as I believe they are the only party listening to the ordinary people and speaking our language, plus they are the only ones with the guts to speak the truth on our membership of the EU and our open door immigration that is causing so many problems for our infrastructure that just cannot cope. So for this person to say I am not genuine is totally dishonest, but exactly what I would expect from 'The Liberals and The Left' whose debating tactics are always the same: If they don't like what you are saying and they are losing the argument they go on the personal attack and do everthing they can to undermine their opponents credibility. In debating terms it is known as the lowest of the the low tactics, known as 'ad hominem'...Latin for 'to the person' or personal attack. I blogged on these boards as I am intersted in politics and love my country and I am so glad UKIP did so well thank you good people of Eastleigh... I wish you all well: This is not the end for UKIP it is just the beginning! but let's hope it is the beginning of the end for the two posh boys from Eaton Cameron & Osborne and their PC brand of liberal Conservatives.

LancashireLad wrote:
Quote: "The UKIP posters are from a PR company working on behalf of UKIP". What a lie this is. I work for no one I belong to no political party, I am an unpaid political writer and activists and at this moment in time I support UKIP as I believe they are the only party listening to the ordinary people and speaking our language, plus they are the only ones with the guts to speak the truth on our membership of the EU and our open door immigration that is causing so many problems for our infrastructure that just cannot cope. So for this person to say I am not genuine is totally dishonest, but exactly what I would expect from 'The Liberals and The Left' whose debating tactics are always the same: If they don't like what you are saying and they are losing the argument they go on the personal attack and do everthing they can to undermine their opponents credibility. In debating terms it is known as the lowest of the the low tactics, known as 'ad hominem'...Latin for 'to the person' or personal attack. I blogged on these boards as I am intersted in politics and love my country and I am so glad UKIP did so well thank you good people of Eastleigh... I wish you all well: This is not the end for UKIP it is just the beginning! but let's hope it is the beginning of the end for the two posh boys from Eaton Cameron & Osborne and their PC brand of liberal Conservatives.

****-Biker wrote:

LancashireLad wrote:
Quote: "The UKIP posters are from a PR company working on behalf of UKIP". What a lie this is. I work for no one I belong to no political party, I am an unpaid political writer and activists and at this moment in time I support UKIP as I believe they are the only party listening to the ordinary people and speaking our language, plus they are the only ones with the guts to speak the truth on our membership of the EU and our open door immigration that is causing so many problems for our infrastructure that just cannot cope. So for this person to say I am not genuine is totally dishonest, but exactly what I would expect from 'The Liberals and The Left' whose debating tactics are always the same: If they don't like what you are saying and they are losing the argument they go on the personal attack and do everthing they can to undermine their opponents credibility. In debating terms it is known as the lowest of the the low tactics, known as 'ad hominem'...Latin for 'to the person' or personal attack. I blogged on these boards as I am intersted in politics and love my country and I am so glad UKIP did so well thank you good people of Eastleigh... I wish you all well: This is not the end for UKIP it is just the beginning! but let's hope it is the beginning of the end for the two posh boys from Eaton Cameron & Osborne and their PC brand of liberal Conservatives.

To those UKIP supporters who seem deluded to think that this result will change the political landscape and mark the rise of UKIP as a political force.
The only reason the majority of people vote for UKIP is for the UK to be outside of the EU, If UKIP do better in future elections the Tories will adjust their position to avoid a right wing split of the vote.
At the end of the day Eastleigh 2013 was a protest vote against a deeply unpopular coalition government UKIP did well as there was no other party worthy of a protest vote

loosehead wrote:

Dresnez wrote:

elvisimo wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

Ukip immigration policy is indeed xenophobic racist and quite frightening.
However if you want a real laugh look up their policies on tax, national insurance, prisons and educations. These guys are complete idiots.
The problem is, the lazy masses can be bothered to look into this. Instead they moan about foreigners taking jobs that people born and bred here think are beneath them.

I have posted on here before about UKIPs tax policy where they abolish NI (once it becomes a tax instead of National INSURANCE then you lose entitlement to a pension etc)

A flat rate tax of 31% will be very Punitive for Pensioners who currently pay 20%.

At least UKIP have put their cards on the table which is more than the Janus head two faced Cameron has done.

UKIP for a party with little or no funding have done brilliantly. They are continually campaigning (tiresome I find) and putting their message out there.

They come across as the reasonable man, but there are some real nasties in their manifesto, though most will think they agree with it till they are on the receiving end. People are desperate and want to believe in UKIP because the rest are a let down.

We have a generation of young people who are rightly dissatisfied with the lack of job prospects and immigration has driven down wages and driven up unemployment.

NOT the immigrants fault who had the gumption to come here and do the best that they can for themselves - It is the fault of successive governments for not putting in measures to restrict it.

These young ones will vote UKIP. They know nothing of Hitler's rise to fame. Hitler did wonders for the German economy, cementing his future but there was a very very dear price to pay.

LABOUR HAVE NO POLICIES - they find fault with the Tory Boys but are totally ineffective when it comes to promoting what they stand for and what they would do instead. They have to go out there and sell themselves.

They need to get the press on side too. Press is very right wing which has helped UKIP sell their policies.

Labour have to get up off their butts if they are to make any headway.

I had always hoped the LibDems would rise up, but they prostituted their values to get in bed with the Tory boys.

LibDems have managed to lower taxes for us all and might have achieved more good stuff but are hampered by the Tory boys. The press cultivates public opinion, and can make or break a political party.

We cannot vote for policies we have not been told of.

I find that quite disgusting. talking about UKIP & the4n the rise of Hitler. where do you get off?
Did Hitler have Jews & Gypsies in his cabinet or his party?
A black woman stood for UKIP in Southampton Test would Hitler have allowed that?
We had Gordon Brown confronted by a elderly woman worried about her grandchildren & young people being able to get jobs with Browns Gaffe on Polish Immigrants.
He brushed it aside as if it doesn't matter.
people on all sides of politics have said we've had enough of the EU & the open door policy on immigration & we want to run our own country & say who can & who can't come here yet none of the three listen.
We're called racists we're told we're fascists.fly a Union Flag & you must be a member of the BNP not just proud of being British,
many of those cheering on our athletes in the Olympics were UKIP supporters or people who want out of the EU did it matter what colour the athlete is/was? they were cheered on because they're British.
Why do we get this garbage thrown at us when we say we're PROUD TO BE BRITISH & we don't want to be in the EU?
most Ukip voters won't a UKIP MP so the major parties change their stance on the EU.
If I'm not wrong I remember the Liberals policies on taxes which now they have a number of MP's & are sharing power seem to have mellowed quite drastically don't see any one calling them communists or slating them the same way as you've just attacked UKIP though?

kingnotail wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Dresnez wrote:

elvisimo wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
I have never been keen on Lib-Dems but them holding on to Eastleigh when the party is exposed for involvement in various unsavoury scandals is remarkable achievement.

Whatever anybody's views about UKIP fact is they have proved a massive support base. Even in the middle of short campaign when I knocked doors for Labour it was clear people were shifting towards UKIP in big way.

Under those circumstances from her party's point of view the Tory candidate has done well. Despite losing votes to UKIP she was way ahead of NuLabour's celebrity comedian.

The spin NuLabour's John Denham tried to put on his party's miserable performance, was pure garbage. They ran a lousy campaign based on some unknown manual 'How to lose elections'.

NuLabour avoided discussing any policy with people, probably because their policies these days are hardly any different than those of ConDem Coalition, or because when in office they too implemented mantra of Tory governments before them i.e. Thatcherism.

Rather than coming up with any alternatives to those of other side, now Denham and others in his thatcherised party appear to be adopting anti immigrants hysteria to undermine UKIP. Don't they realise that subject has now become UKIP's property?

Those who think UKIP's performance was just one off episode, better start smelling coffee, because now they could create chaos in next door Southampton, they won't be hurting Tories alone, but may damage NuLabour, especially in Test where in one ward two of their own former councillors will also be a factor in play.

Regarding my friends in TUSC and genuine left, only fools will deny it was not total disaster. But they will.

Most of the left has to learn to stop talking to itself and how to talk to people rather than talking at them. Back stabbing fellow socialists has become addiction of lefties, will we ever unite?

For their political opportunism UKIP has made xenophobia part of British public life, if serious issues which are the root causes are not objectively addressed and myths challenged, it could easily progress into something else, very dangerous. So be warned.

Ukip immigration policy is indeed xenophobic racist and quite frightening.
However if you want a real laugh look up their policies on tax, national insurance, prisons and educations. These guys are complete idiots.
The problem is, the lazy masses can be bothered to look into this. Instead they moan about foreigners taking jobs that people born and bred here think are beneath them.

I have posted on here before about UKIPs tax policy where they abolish NI (once it becomes a tax instead of National INSURANCE then you lose entitlement to a pension etc)

A flat rate tax of 31% will be very Punitive for Pensioners who currently pay 20%.

At least UKIP have put their cards on the table which is more than the Janus head two faced Cameron has done.

UKIP for a party with little or no funding have done brilliantly. They are continually campaigning (tiresome I find) and putting their message out there.

They come across as the reasonable man, but there are some real nasties in their manifesto, though most will think they agree with it till they are on the receiving end. People are desperate and want to believe in UKIP because the rest are a let down.

We have a generation of young people who are rightly dissatisfied with the lack of job prospects and immigration has driven down wages and driven up unemployment.

NOT the immigrants fault who had the gumption to come here and do the best that they can for themselves - It is the fault of successive governments for not putting in measures to restrict it.

These young ones will vote UKIP. They know nothing of Hitler's rise to fame. Hitler did wonders for the German economy, cementing his future but there was a very very dear price to pay.

LABOUR HAVE NO POLICIES - they find fault with the Tory Boys but are totally ineffective when it comes to promoting what they stand for and what they would do instead. They have to go out there and sell themselves.

They need to get the press on side too. Press is very right wing which has helped UKIP sell their policies.

Labour have to get up off their butts if they are to make any headway.

I had always hoped the LibDems would rise up, but they prostituted their values to get in bed with the Tory boys.

LibDems have managed to lower taxes for us all and might have achieved more good stuff but are hampered by the Tory boys. The press cultivates public opinion, and can make or break a political party.

We cannot vote for policies we have not been told of.

I find that quite disgusting. talking about UKIP & the4n the rise of Hitler. where do you get off?
Did Hitler have Jews & Gypsies in his cabinet or his party?
A black woman stood for UKIP in Southampton Test would Hitler have allowed that?
We had Gordon Brown confronted by a elderly woman worried about her grandchildren & young people being able to get jobs with Browns Gaffe on Polish Immigrants.
He brushed it aside as if it doesn't matter.
people on all sides of politics have said we've had enough of the EU & the open door policy on immigration & we want to run our own country & say who can & who can't come here yet none of the three listen.
We're called racists we're told we're fascists.fly a Union Flag & you must be a member of the BNP not just proud of being British,
many of those cheering on our athletes in the Olympics were UKIP supporters or people who want out of the EU did it matter what colour the athlete is/was? they were cheered on because they're British.
Why do we get this garbage thrown at us when we say we're PROUD TO BE BRITISH & we don't want to be in the EU?
most Ukip voters won't a UKIP MP so the major parties change their stance on the EU.
If I'm not wrong I remember the Liberals policies on taxes which now they have a number of MP's & are sharing power seem to have mellowed quite drastically don't see any one calling them communists or slating them the same way as you've just attacked UKIP though?

Try a rabies shot, as you definitely seem to be foaming at the mouth.

LancashireLad wrote:
Quote: "The UKIP posters are from a PR company working on behalf of UKIP".

What a lie this is. I work for no one I belong to no political party, I am an unpaid political writer and activists and at this moment in time I support UKIP as I believe they are the only party listening to the ordinary people and speaking our language, plus they are the only ones with the guts to speak the truth on our membership of the EU and our open door immigration that is causing so many problems for our infrastructure that just cannot cope. So for this person to say I am not genuine is totally dishonest, but exactly what I would expect from 'The Liberals and The Left' whose debating tactics are always the same: If they don't like what you are saying and they are losing the argument they go on the personal attack and do everthing they can to undermine their opponents credibility. In debating terms it is known as the lowest of the the low tactics, known as 'ad hominem'...Latin for 'to the person' or personal attack. I blogged on these boards as I am intersted in politics and love my country and I am so glad UKIP did so well thank you good people of Eastleigh... I wish you all well: This is not the end for UKIP it is just the beginning! but let's hope it is the beginning of the end for the two posh boys from Eaton Cameron & Osborne and their PC brand of liberal Conservatives.