Huhne bullied by prisoners on first day in jail (From Daily Echo)

Well this is clearly a nice non-biased article. Great journalism Daily Echo!

"Moved for his own safety" implies that this is more than just name calling...

BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri
tainundertories.com

If anything this is encouraging the "bullying" by reporting it as "worthy" news. Obviously the Echo are getting off on it and think their readers will too.
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Just let the guy do his time and move on.

Now for the other 649 or so.

Snowstorm wrote:
Well this is clearly a nice non-biased article. Great journalism Daily Echo!

"Moved for his own safety" implies that this is more than just name calling...

I knew this would happen, the man is millionaire, prisoners were bound to bully him, that's prison for you

Prison staff would have given him the choice of the VP (Nonce) wing or to go in with the general populous, he obviously didn't fancy living the perv's or peados so he chose the general populous, now that they've had their fun they've him to VP wing until they ship him out to probably Ford open prison.

Great sense of humour from the prison officers shouting Order Order, the other cons would have enjoyed that.

he needs to be careful what he is eating on that wing , by the weekend he will be off to the healthfarm.

Does not say much for human nature does it.

Oh dear what a shame, don't you feel sorry for him ? my heart bleeds. He got of lightly a few days in Wandsworth then of to Ford for a few weeks and then home with a bracelet, i would have given him a lot more as an example to others.

pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers..... I expected nothing else. No sympathy for Huhne, but its a shame people we trust in that profession can not behave with dignity. If Huhne had an ounce of sense, he would have stayed put and told his wing mates "look after me and will wire you a couple fo grand when I get out"... peanuts to him to make the porridge taste better....

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
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After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
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No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

business-guru wrote:
pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers..... I expected nothing else. No sympathy for Huhne, but its a shame people we trust in that profession can not behave with dignity. If Huhne had an ounce of sense, he would have stayed put and told his wing mates "look after me and will wire you a couple fo grand when I get out"... peanuts to him to make the porridge taste better....

If he had any sense he would have taken the points, got a driving ban, hired a driver and still been an MP, alas he didn't ergo he's in jail.

As for your pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers comment, a prison officers job is not an easy one , the constant threat of violence every single day does nothing to help, often working with the most dangerous in our society, prison at the best of times is a grim (and so it should be) a little bit of light hearted humour would have lightened his mood a tad and the other lags would have laughed, which is often all that is needed to lift the tension inside the walls.

What did he expect? Prison is supposed to be a punishment - he needs to grow some and get on with it!
As for Price, she needs to realise that she brought the whole thing on herself - if she'd reported the whole thing to the police at the time (rather than taking it to the press later) she'd have more than likely transferred the points to Huhne, got him prosecuted for perverting the course of justice and got off with her defence of marital coercion...
Both pathetic wasters of public money!

Poor show from the prison officers if its true. No excuse.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
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After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Please wake up to the realities of Life - the large majority are career Politicians and climb the slippery slope through Lies and Deceit - 'Great Britain' only when weve raped and pillaged other Countries.Little Britain as is now is a Joke among lesser Countries and you expect a screw to doff his cap to his position of HMP Prison Officer ,have a lie down

So you are one of the namby pamby brigade who think prisoners should be treated like guests at Butlins, people like you and the Howard league are the reason our prisons are full to overflowing, prison should be the most God **** awful place on earth and then people wouldn't be so happy to go their instead they are fed good food have TVs game stations SKY and in many cases a better life than they would outside. And you have the audacity to criticise prison staff, with people like you around is it any wonder the country has gone to the dogs.

Outside of the Box wrote:

business-guru wrote:
pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers..... I expected nothing else. No sympathy for Huhne, but its a shame people we trust in that profession can not behave with dignity. If Huhne had an ounce of sense, he would have stayed put and told his wing mates "look after me and will wire you a couple fo grand when I get out"... peanuts to him to make the porridge taste better....

If he had any sense he would have taken the points, got a driving ban, hired a driver and still been an MP, alas he didn't ergo he's in jail.

As for your pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers comment, a prison officers job is not an easy one , the constant threat of violence every single day does nothing to help, often working with the most dangerous in our society, prison at the best of times is a grim (and so it should be) a little bit of light hearted humour would have lightened his mood a tad and the other lags would have laughed, which is often all that is needed to lift the tension inside the walls.

He got banned anyway for being on his phone 4 weeks later.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Get a grip man, the Order Order saying over the tannoy in Wandsworth prison is hilarious, it's prison humour, unless your a prison officer or been one or you've been a con, you wouldn't get the hilarity of the joke.

Wandsworth prison is one of the most understaffed in the country, it is also a sh1thole, prison officers take their life in their hands everytime they walk through the gate, instead of groaning about NuLabour and this Coalition you spend your time campaigning to your MP about getting more prison officers.

As for Government lecturing other countries on how to behave, maybe you should follow your own and stop lecturing us on the faults of NuLabour

which makes the entire episode all the more comical.

bigfella777 wrote:

Outside of the Box wrote:

business-guru wrote:
pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers..... I expected nothing else. No sympathy for Huhne, but its a shame people we trust in that profession can not behave with dignity. If Huhne had an ounce of sense, he would have stayed put and told his wing mates "look after me and will wire you a couple fo grand when I get out"... peanuts to him to make the porridge taste better....

If he had any sense he would have taken the points, got a driving ban, hired a driver and still been an MP, alas he didn't ergo he's in jail.

As for your pathetic unprofessionalism from the the prison officers comment, a prison officers job is not an easy one , the constant threat of violence every single day does nothing to help, often working with the most dangerous in our society, prison at the best of times is a grim (and so it should be) a little bit of light hearted humour would have lightened his mood a tad and the other lags would have laughed, which is often all that is needed to lift the tension inside the walls.

He got banned anyway for being on his phone 4 weeks later.

I know, which makes him all the more stupid.

Since Mr Huhne may have masqueraded as a European Union MEP under a false prospectus, should it be right to query whether he is still entitled to his lavish pension from the European Union and should he not be obliged to return all pension funds already received?

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri

tainundertories.com

If you google Gordon Brown mistakes Labour, you will see why the country is in such a mess. Unbiased reporting on the shambles under the last Labour administration.

Do you find it difficult getting around with that massive chip on your shoulder? Now go away until you have something sensible to say.

miltonarcher wrote:

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri


tainundertories.com

If you google Gordon Brown mistakes Labour, you will see why the country is in such a mess. Unbiased reporting on the shambles under the last Labour administration.

Do you find it difficult getting around with that massive chip on your shoulder? Now go away until you have something sensible to say.

Oh I forgot, could you try posting in English next time.

Outside of the Box wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Get a grip man, the Order Order saying over the tannoy in Wandsworth prison is hilarious, it's prison humour, unless your a prison officer or been one or you've been a con, you wouldn't get the hilarity of the joke.

Wandsworth prison is one of the most understaffed in the country, it is also a sh1thole, prison officers take their life in their hands everytime they walk through the gate, instead of groaning about NuLabour and this Coalition you spend your time campaigning to your MP about getting more prison officers.

As for Government lecturing other countries on how to behave, maybe you should follow your own and stop lecturing us on the faults of NuLabour

Yes it may be funny for you I and many others as well, but just like ignoring speed limits is against the law and then not to provide true statement to authorities after that is a serious crime, using prisoners for poking fun especially when they could be emotionally vulnerable by those who are paid to control criminals is also wrong.

Having deservedly ending in Wandsworth for any body could be a great psychological shock, and even more so for a former cabinet minister, will you we still be thinking it funny if ignoring 'duty of care' by prison staff drives Huhne to harming or hanging himself?

Yes shortage of staff and overcrowding in prisons is a serious problem, which POA has often complained about, and as a trade unionist I have always supported, but successive governments, including of party which is their parasite, have failed to resolve.

Before we all start crowing about the high and mighty being banged up let's recall Huhne's original offence is committed by an estimated 300,000 drivers each year. The 8 months is nothing compared with what the guy has sentenced himself and his family to

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Outside of the Box wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Get a grip man, the Order Order saying over the tannoy in Wandsworth prison is hilarious, it's prison humour, unless your a prison officer or been one or you've been a con, you wouldn't get the hilarity of the joke.

Wandsworth prison is one of the most understaffed in the country, it is also a sh1thole, prison officers take their life in their hands everytime they walk through the gate, instead of groaning about NuLabour and this Coalition you spend your time campaigning to your MP about getting more prison officers.

As for Government lecturing other countries on how to behave, maybe you should follow your own and stop lecturing us on the faults of NuLabour

Yes it may be funny for you I and many others as well, but just like ignoring speed limits is against the law and then not to provide true statement to authorities after that is a serious crime, using prisoners for poking fun especially when they could be emotionally vulnerable by those who are paid to control criminals is also wrong.

Having deservedly ending in Wandsworth for any body could be a great psychological shock, and even more so for a former cabinet minister, will you we still be thinking it funny if ignoring 'duty of care' by prison staff drives Huhne to harming or hanging himself?

Yes shortage of staff and overcrowding in prisons is a serious problem, which POA has often complained about, and as a trade unionist I have always supported, but successive governments, including of party which is their parasite, have failed to resolve.

When you read clap trap like this is it any surprise the country is in such a bad way, if he wants to hang himself good luck to him it will save us a few meals, the sooner we realise that this softly softly goody goody approach in our prisons doesn't work the better. You go to prison because you have committed a crime against society so therefor you should lose all rights to be treated as a member of that society.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Outside of the Box wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Get a grip man, the Order Order saying over the tannoy in Wandsworth prison is hilarious, it's prison humour, unless your a prison officer or been one or you've been a con, you wouldn't get the hilarity of the joke.

Wandsworth prison is one of the most understaffed in the country, it is also a sh1thole, prison officers take their life in their hands everytime they walk through the gate, instead of groaning about NuLabour and this Coalition you spend your time campaigning to your MP about getting more prison officers.

As for Government lecturing other countries on how to behave, maybe you should follow your own and stop lecturing us on the faults of NuLabour

Yes it may be funny for you I and many others as well, but just like ignoring speed limits is against the law and then not to provide true statement to authorities after that is a serious crime, using prisoners for poking fun especially when they could be emotionally vulnerable by those who are paid to control criminals is also wrong.

Having deservedly ending in Wandsworth for any body could be a great psychological shock, and even more so for a former cabinet minister, will you we still be thinking it funny if ignoring 'duty of care' by prison staff drives Huhne to harming or hanging himself?

Yes shortage of staff and overcrowding in prisons is a serious problem, which POA has often complained about, and as a trade unionist I have always supported, but successive governments, including of party which is their parasite, have failed to resolve.

I suppose you expected this poor, poor man or should I say poor rich man to have the red carpet out rolled

If you think the prison officers are neglecting their duty of care of this emotionally vulnerable prisoners then you really need to do some research into prison life.

On arrival in jail normal prisoners (other than the nonces) are asked questions regarding his mental state, his alcohol and drug intake, they're also asked if they're suicidal (on several occasion) the prison officers then asked if they feel vulnerable or feel they would be threatened on normal prison conditions, if at anytime they say yes, then the prisoner is one, taken to de-tox two, offered a place on the VP wing, or for nonces they're get put rule 43, Prisoner Huhne is no different to an other inmate in Wandsworth and would have been treated the same, the prison has fulfilled it duty.

Having the mickey taking out of mine is probably the least of his, getting stabbed or battered was probably more concerning and if another attacked Huhne who would be there to protect him, oh yes the prison officers you so happily attack by they don't do their duty.

I wonder if you'd be saying the same if it was a rapist or kiddy fiddler?

ohec wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Outside of the Box wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Does not say much for human nature does it.

No it doesnt does it.
.
After all what sort of scum bag would continually lie about this for 10 years and expect his wife to carry the points and support his continual lie's ........ ....... Whilst he is off sleeping with his mistress .... and then screwing up his own children
.
No it doesnt say much for human nature does it.

Whatever views we may have of Huhne, or of Liberal Democrats or of Coalition government, there is should no excuse for HMP paid staff behaving badly.

Huhne has been found guilty for breaking the law of the land, so he is very rightly doing his time.

We also have laws, rules and regulations, whatever these are called, about how the prisoners should be treated and how HMP staff should behave. If they break those somebody should be made accountable.

As well informed intelligent and responsible supporter of NuLabour, you should be expressing serious concern about staff/screws, who rather than doing their job as required are in fact abusing their power over a prisoner.

If as NuLabourite you really wanted to give it a political spin, it was your chance to criticise the ConDem Coalition, which loves lecturing other nations on how they treat people in custody, but under them HMP workers do not practise what the ministers preach.

Get a grip man, the Order Order saying over the tannoy in Wandsworth prison is hilarious, it's prison humour, unless your a prison officer or been one or you've been a con, you wouldn't get the hilarity of the joke.

Wandsworth prison is one of the most understaffed in the country, it is also a sh1thole, prison officers take their life in their hands everytime they walk through the gate, instead of groaning about NuLabour and this Coalition you spend your time campaigning to your MP about getting more prison officers.

As for Government lecturing other countries on how to behave, maybe you should follow your own and stop lecturing us on the faults of NuLabour

Yes it may be funny for you I and many others as well, but just like ignoring speed limits is against the law and then not to provide true statement to authorities after that is a serious crime, using prisoners for poking fun especially when they could be emotionally vulnerable by those who are paid to control criminals is also wrong.

Having deservedly ending in Wandsworth for any body could be a great psychological shock, and even more so for a former cabinet minister, will you we still be thinking it funny if ignoring 'duty of care' by prison staff drives Huhne to harming or hanging himself?

Yes shortage of staff and overcrowding in prisons is a serious problem, which POA has often complained about, and as a trade unionist I have always supported, but successive governments, including of party which is their parasite, have failed to resolve.

When you read clap trap like this is it any surprise the country is in such a bad way, if he wants to hang himself good luck to him it will save us a few meals, the sooner we realise that this softly softly goody goody approach in our prisons doesn't work the better. You go to prison because you have committed a crime against society so therefor you should lose all rights to be treated as a member of that society.

I wouldn't want Huhne to hang himself, they're a few I wouldn't mind seeing dangling on the end of a rope, however whoever swings in a prison weather it be a nonce/bacon or a normal prisoner, its poor officer finding the dangler that I worry about not the lag

miltonarcher wrote:

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri


tainundertories.com

If you google Gordon Brown mistakes Labour, you will see why the country is in such a mess. Unbiased reporting on the shambles under the last Labour administration.

Do you find it difficult getting around with that massive chip on your shoulder? Now go away until you have something sensible to say.

well aware of Browns mistakes thanks - who are you some amateur psychologist that presumes I have a chip on my should - how would you know sounds like you always walk around with your head stuck up your ar*e

If you cant do the time dont do the crime!
I hope the other prisoners give him hell,He lied and lied again instead of admitting to his guilt, which makes him no better than many of the others.
He has made many peoples lives a misery with his stupid Climate Change taxes increasing our fuel bills, now let him suffer, at least he will be warm in prison unlike some outside who cant afford heating because of his actions.
He should have got years not months for perverting the course of Justice!

simmo707 wrote:

miltonarcher wrote:

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri



tainundertories.com

If you google Gordon Brown mistakes Labour, you will see why the country is in such a mess. Unbiased reporting on the shambles under the last Labour administration.

Do you find it difficult getting around with that massive chip on your shoulder? Now go away until you have something sensible to say.

well aware of Browns mistakes thanks - who are you some amateur psychologist that presumes I have a chip on my should - how would you know sounds like you always walk around with your head stuck up your ar*e

Ooooops, looks like you didn't take my advice. English, you need to post on here in English. Now, please, go and lie down in a darkened room and see if you can cure that deep chip in the shoulder area.

miltonarcher wrote:

simmo707 wrote:

miltonarcher wrote:

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – THE SEWER OF POLITICS
After stabbing Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell in the back to make way for himself as leader of the Liberals Huhne deserves all he gets .Not unless the sewer of Politics he resided in thought he deserved their own justice and engineered the speeding episode to come to the fore who knows what goes on in those murky waters.www.brokenbri




tainundertories.com

If you google Gordon Brown mistakes Labour, you will see why the country is in such a mess. Unbiased reporting on the shambles under the last Labour administration.

Do you find it difficult getting around with that massive chip on your shoulder? Now go away until you have something sensible to say.

well aware of Browns mistakes thanks - who are you some amateur psychologist that presumes I have a chip on my should - how would you know sounds like you always walk around with your head stuck up your ar*e

Ooooops, looks like you didn't take my advice. English, you need to post on here in English. Now, please, go and lie down in a darkened room and see if you can cure that deep chip in the shoulder area.

LOL just knew a person with a name like that would bite - had my laugh lol bye bye

As prisoners have access to newspapers and TV, they probably new Huhne was a millionaire long before his arrival at Wandsworth.

And I personally don't think being asked for money makes him vulnerable or should allow him to have what appears to be special treatment.

As for "order, order" it's good old fashioned British humour ... at least, it is for those of us who remember the days before political correctness!

"Bullying", if indeed it really is bullying, is part of prison life and Huhne needs to get used to it. After all, if you do the crime you should do the time ... and take everything that comes with time!

Would non-celeb prisoners have been moved if they'd complained that they'd been ridiculed by others?
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Smacks of special treatment.

becksbeare wrote:
What did he expect? Prison is supposed to be a punishment - he needs to grow some and get on with it!
As for Price, she needs to realise that she brought the whole thing on herself - if she'd reported the whole thing to the police at the time (rather than taking it to the press later) she'd have more than likely transferred the points to Huhne, got him prosecuted for perverting the course of justice and got off with her defence of marital coercion...
Both pathetic wasters of public money!

The punishment is the incaceration within prison walls, not to suffer the taunts and harassment of fellow prisoners. Who gave them authority to decide the fate of Huhne? That's the problem with this kind of thing; it gives people carte blanche to act like animals. Why don't they just leave him to serve his sentence and mind their own business?

eurogordi wrote:
As prisoners have access to newspapers and TV, they probably new Huhne was a millionaire long before his arrival at Wandsworth.

And I personally don't think being asked for money makes him vulnerable or should allow him to have what appears to be special treatment.

As for "order, order" it's good old fashioned British humour ... at least, it is for those of us who remember the days before political correctness!

"Bullying", if indeed it really is bullying, is part of prison life and Huhne needs to get used to it. After all, if you do the crime you should do the time ... and take everything that comes with time!

You are all heart. These people who are doing the bullying are themselves in there for a reason, so they should shut up and do their time quietly and let him do the same.

If Huhne expected it to be easy in prison he's mistaken and i see no reason why he should be given special treatment. The Prison officers said order order, so what, i dont envy their job, Huhne did the crime now he's doing the time and as the Judge said he brought it on himself so i have no sympathy, if he'd come clean to begin with the taxpayer would have been saved the cost of the first shambolic trial with vicky pryce

Donald2000 wrote:

becksbeare wrote:
What did he expect? Prison is supposed to be a punishment - he needs to grow some and get on with it!
As for Price, she needs to realise that she brought the whole thing on herself - if she'd reported the whole thing to the police at the time (rather than taking it to the press later) she'd have more than likely transferred the points to Huhne, got him prosecuted for perverting the course of justice and got off with her defence of marital coercion...
Both pathetic wasters of public money!

The punishment is the incaceration within prison walls, not to suffer the taunts and harassment of fellow prisoners. Who gave them authority to decide the fate of Huhne? That's the problem with this kind of thing; it gives people carte blanche to act like animals. Why don't they just leave him to serve his sentence and mind their own business?

Would you have similar sympathy for a simple purse-snatcher?
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Good for you if you would.
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Huhne's treatment by other prisoners is very minor compared to what many others suffer. It's an illustration of why the prison system is failing - the environment is not one that encourages rehabilitation, it's a dog-eat-dog place that makes many offenders much more antisocial (and potentially dangerous) upon release than at incarceration.
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Do we want to rehabilitate prisoners so that they stop damaging other people/property?
Or do we want to just make them suffer so that we can feel that they have been 'punished' adequately?
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You can't realistically have both simultaneously. That sticks in a lot of people's throats, but all the research shows it to be true. There has to be choice between rehabilitation or punishment.
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Rehabilitation reduces the number of future victims, and therefore serves society better - so that would be my personal choice.
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I agree that Huhne shouldn't have to suffer taunts and bullying whilst inside. But why does this only become an issue people care about when it's a public schoolboy white-collar criminal?

cantthinkofone wrote:

Donald2000 wrote:

becksbeare wrote:
What did he expect? Prison is supposed to be a punishment - he needs to grow some and get on with it!
As for Price, she needs to realise that she brought the whole thing on herself - if she'd reported the whole thing to the police at the time (rather than taking it to the press later) she'd have more than likely transferred the points to Huhne, got him prosecuted for perverting the course of justice and got off with her defence of marital coercion...
Both pathetic wasters of public money!

The punishment is the incaceration within prison walls, not to suffer the taunts and harassment of fellow prisoners. Who gave them authority to decide the fate of Huhne? That's the problem with this kind of thing; it gives people carte blanche to act like animals. Why don't they just leave him to serve his sentence and mind their own business?

Would you have similar sympathy for a simple purse-snatcher?
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Good for you if you would.
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Huhne's treatment by other prisoners is very minor compared to what many others suffer. It's an illustration of why the prison system is failing - the environment is not one that encourages rehabilitation, it's a dog-eat-dog place that makes many offenders much more antisocial (and potentially dangerous) upon release than at incarceration.
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Do we want to rehabilitate prisoners so that they stop damaging other people/property?
Or do we want to just make them suffer so that we can feel that they have been 'punished' adequately?
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You can't realistically have both simultaneously. That sticks in a lot of people's throats, but all the research shows it to be true. There has to be choice between rehabilitation or punishment.
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Rehabilitation reduces the number of future victims, and therefore serves society better - so that would be my personal choice.
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I agree that Huhne shouldn't have to suffer taunts and bullying whilst inside. But why does this only become an issue people care about when it's a public schoolboy white-collar criminal?

I do care about detained persons; I have done voluntary work within the criminal justice sector. Believe you me, no-one looks good either inside a police cell or in the nick properly and it's hard not to feel some sympathy for all of them. In any case they should not be bullying or taunting Huhne. They don't like it when told what to do by a police officer or prison officer, so they should stop acting the giddy goat and leave him alone and stop being silly.

geoff51 wrote:
If you cant do the time dont do the crime!
I hope the other prisoners give him hell,He lied and lied again instead of admitting to his guilt, which makes him no better than many of the others.
He has made many peoples lives a misery with his stupid Climate Change taxes increasing our fuel bills, now let him suffer, at least he will be warm in prison unlike some outside who cant afford heating because of his actions.
He should have got years not months for perverting the course of Justice!

couldn't agree more, probably responsible for more deaths than all the muderers in jail

I don't get how if Huhne got 8 months for speeding, getting Pryce to take the points and lying continuously about it for months, then why does Pryce also get 8 months for simply taking the points? She never denied doing it.
If she got 8 months for that, what is Carlos Tevez going to get for driving uninsured whilst disqualified? Which crime is likely to cause more harm/damage/injury? Our judiciary has got the Pryce sentence badly wrong - there's no way what she did is as bad as Tevez but he'll get a massive fine (but a drop in the ocean for him) and much less jail time if any. Max penalty for him is 6 months jail. Seems ****-eyed to me.

When in Rome do as Rome does - Life is cyclic what goes around comes around .Huhne deserves all he gets - did he have any sympathy for the Electorate when voting for Welfare Reform .illegal wars that have killed 100's of 1000's I am actually amazed at the response of this post ,he's not even a likable guy but a back stabbing snide

GX Saint wrote:
I don't get how if Huhne got 8 months for speeding, getting Pryce to take the points and lying continuously about it for months, then why does Pryce also get 8 months for simply taking the points? She never denied doing it.
If she got 8 months for that, what is Carlos Tevez going to get for driving uninsured whilst disqualified? Which crime is likely to cause more harm/damage/injury? Our judiciary has got the Pryce sentence badly wrong - there's no way what she did is as bad as Tevez but he'll get a massive fine (but a drop in the ocean for him) and much less jail time if any. Max penalty for him is 6 months jail. Seems ****-eyed to me.

Huhne was effectively given a longer sentence. But because he entered a guilty plea (thus saving court time and costs) he was given a 10% discount on it.
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Both sentences are probably a fair bit shorter than expected. Point swapping is very *easy* to get away with, and sentences have therefore historically been disproportionately long in relation to the harm done, as a deterrent.
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Both parties generally get pretty equal sentences (+/- ~10%), again as a deterrent to both parties.
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You or I would likely have received significantly longer sentences for the same crime. That, IMO, is a serious issue. But the comparable sentences for Huhne and Pryce are justifiable.