Marchwood Military Port sale 'within months' says Andrew Lansley

Marchwood Military Port

Marchwood Military Port

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THE sale of a key Hampshire military base will be underway within a few months – with no fewer than 25 potential bidders.

The Government has revealed it will launch a “formal sale process” of Marchwood Military Port, in New Forest, this Spring.

Commons Leader Andrew Lansley added: “Twenty-five parties have shown an interest in participating, although clearly we cannot identify who they are.”

The comments came after questioning from Dr Julian Lewis, the New Forest East MP, who has criticised a predicted sale to Associated British Ports (ABP).

Local councillors and residents have raised concerns over ABP’s plans, arguing they could lead to traffic problems in and around Marchwood and an expansion of the site.

The Conservative MP said: “I’m pleasantly surprised that there are 24 other parties that are interested and will be curious to see what proposals come forward.

“However, the concern and suspicion will be that Associated British Ports will be at the front of the queue, which is unfortunate.

“We all supported them over their successful attempts to greatly increase the capacity of their container port, which should meet their needs for a vey long time.

“They should now leave my constituents alone, rather than trying to keep open the option of building on the edge of the New Forest, which would be most detrimental to the quality of life.”

Nevertheless, Dr Lewis welcomed the prospect of certainty over Marchwood, an issue which had “dragged on for more than three years”.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) which owns Marchwood, is eager to sell it off as part of plans to raise £500m by disposing of sites across the UK.

ABP chiefs are keen to use it as a car storage facility - creating up to 400 jobs and similar to the multi-storey car compounds the port currently contains.

They have denied any interest in building a container terminal, the key fear of local campaigners, at the 330-acre site.

In the Commons, Mr Lansley said: “The intention is to grant a long-term concession that will include the sale of a lease for the port and the delivery of sea mounting services.

“That will ensure that the military requirement can still be met, while allowing greater economic and commercial benefit to be realised from the site.

“A concession will be granted only if the Ministry of Defence is satisfied that it represents good value for money.”

The MoD has previously said that it expects the sale to be completed by April next year.

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5:22pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

A new asset to Southampton aint it!
A new asset to Southampton aint it! Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:17pm Thu 9 Jan 14

loosehead says...

so what can be built there? let me see they still want a facility where the Military can use it as a port facility so no houses can be built.
now who's a Port running Port facilities & would guarantee this would happen here?
I Know the dreaded Southampton Port or ABP I might be a Tory But Lewis your a total arse opposing ABP as Morrison said cars it never said containers did it?
so what can be built there? let me see they still want a facility where the Military can use it as a port facility so no houses can be built. now who's a Port running Port facilities & would guarantee this would happen here? I Know the dreaded Southampton Port or ABP I might be a Tory But Lewis your a total arse opposing ABP as Morrison said cars it never said containers did it? loosehead
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7:40pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Forest Resident says...

Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more. Forest Resident
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8:34pm Thu 9 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself? loosehead
  • Score: 12

9:14pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Forest Resident says...

loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
Yes the military are thankfully conscientious enough not to bring HGV's through the village centre, all the same, Normandy Way bisects numerous residential areas of the village and passes within feet of many front doors. Any commercial takeover of the port (no doubt a 24hr operation) should not be allowed to further blight the lives of those living on or near Normandy Way and who already endure hundreds of daily HGV movements from the nearby industrial estate.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]Yes the military are thankfully conscientious enough not to bring HGV's through the village centre, all the same, Normandy Way bisects numerous residential areas of the village and passes within feet of many front doors. Any commercial takeover of the port (no doubt a 24hr operation) should not be allowed to further blight the lives of those living on or near Normandy Way and who already endure hundreds of daily HGV movements from the nearby industrial estate. Forest Resident
  • Score: 1

10:42pm Thu 9 Jan 14

issacchunt says...

Build a dual carriageway to it..
Build a dual carriageway to it.. issacchunt
  • Score: 11

12:39am Fri 10 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

11:46am Fri 10 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Forest Resident wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
Yes the military are thankfully conscientious enough not to bring HGV's through the village centre, all the same, Normandy Way bisects numerous residential areas of the village and passes within feet of many front doors. Any commercial takeover of the port (no doubt a 24hr operation) should not be allowed to further blight the lives of those living on or near Normandy Way and who already endure hundreds of daily HGV movements from the nearby industrial estate.
surely that is something you can get ABP or the future owners to agree to isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]Yes the military are thankfully conscientious enough not to bring HGV's through the village centre, all the same, Normandy Way bisects numerous residential areas of the village and passes within feet of many front doors. Any commercial takeover of the port (no doubt a 24hr operation) should not be allowed to further blight the lives of those living on or near Normandy Way and who already endure hundreds of daily HGV movements from the nearby industrial estate.[/p][/quote]surely that is something you can get ABP or the future owners to agree to isn't it? loosehead
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2:00pm Fri 10 Jan 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.
Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.[/p][/quote]Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by southy
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Fri 10 Jan 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.
Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.[/p][/quote]Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by southy
  • Score: 0

2:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.
Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by
About three hours ago behind an HGVS that didn't even slow down when it met it's counterparts coming the other way.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.[/p][/quote]Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by[/p][/quote]About three hours ago behind an HGVS that didn't even slow down when it met it's counterparts coming the other way. Torchie1
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Fri 10 Jan 14

endzone says...

We all know who will win the bid don't we!
We all know who will win the bid don't we! endzone
  • Score: 0

6:06pm Fri 10 Jan 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.
Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by
Southy I've been in a Army Convoy going into Marchwood Military Port & another convoys has been coming away from the port so what are you going on about?
this is a port & has been such way before many of the homes that are there now hasn't it?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]HGVs are passing each other safely which indicates that the roads are wide enough and unless there are constant traffic jams the roads aren't 'bursting at the seams'. Don't be so melodramatic in your bid to halt progress.[/p][/quote]Torchie when was the last time you drove down Jaccobs gutter lane, that is if you ever done so, it passes right though old Marchwood village, but misses new Marchwood village, certain spots along Jaccobs gutter lorrys have to stop and pull to the side to allow other lorrys to pass by[/p][/quote]Southy I've been in a Army Convoy going into Marchwood Military Port & another convoys has been coming away from the port so what are you going on about? this is a port & has been such way before many of the homes that are there now hasn't it? loosehead
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Rolodojo says...

loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood. Rolodojo
  • Score: 0

9:14pm Fri 10 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
[quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me? loosehead
  • Score: 1

10:41pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Rolodojo says...

loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today.
My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today. My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles. Rolodojo
  • Score: 2

9:31am Sun 12 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today.
My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.
so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars?
I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters
) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they?
from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this?
ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port
[quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today. My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.[/p][/quote]so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars? I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters ) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they? from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this? ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port loosehead
  • Score: 3

11:32pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Rolodojo says...

loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today.
My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.
so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars?
I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters

) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they?
from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this?
ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port
Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear.
As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today. My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.[/p][/quote]so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars? I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters ) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they? from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this? ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear. As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world. Rolodojo
  • Score: 2

6:52am Mon 13 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today.
My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.
so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars?
I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters


) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they?
from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this?
ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port
Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear.
As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world.
so really you have a councillor desperate for votes siding with a minority NIMBY group & attacking all things Southampton instead of trying to sort out the problems the area already has correct?
[quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today. My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.[/p][/quote]so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars? I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters ) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they? from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this? ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear. As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world.[/p][/quote]so really you have a councillor desperate for votes siding with a minority NIMBY group & attacking all things Southampton instead of trying to sort out the problems the area already has correct? loosehead
  • Score: 0

6:29am Tue 14 Jan 14

Rolodojo says...

loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Rolodojo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.
I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?
You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.
was this aimed at me?
I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today.
My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.
so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars?
I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters



) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they?
from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this?
ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port
Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear.
As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world.
so really you have a councillor desperate for votes siding with a minority NIMBY group & attacking all things Southampton instead of trying to sort out the problems the area already has correct?
It certainly seems that way but then to be fair to the bloke he's a politician they are all like that :)
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Whomever the new owner/operator of Marchwood Military is they must be forced to ensure that there are no additional HGV movements beyond the hundreds already seen each day in Marchwood, the narrow rural roads into and out of the village are bursting at the seams already and are not designed to handle the current HGV numbers, let alone any more.[/p][/quote]I've driven HGV Army Lorries into Marchwood Military Port & unless hundreds of new houses have been built we never went into Marchwood itself?[/p][/quote]You drive past hundreds of houses on Normandy way and I might add normally doing 50 - 60 + mph in a 40 zone that should be a 30 zone, dumping diesel and sludge all over the road as you go. You already clog Jacobs Gutter Lane, a road that used to be safe but has a number of fatalities in recent years. Half of you blindly follow your sat navs into the centre of the village and the other half Take a detour into the village on purpose. The fault lies with whoever it was that sanctioned an industrial estate on the old power station site without forcing the developers to do something about the roads that run from Totton and around Marchwood.[/p][/quote]was this aimed at me?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say it was "aimed" at you. Personally I have no problem with the Army Traffic its been there long before any housing of any type was built in Marchwood and it never caused an issue even after the village grew into what it is today. My whinge is with the Industrial estate traffic that was allowed to go ahead with no modifications to the feeding roads. We now have way to many HGVs being badly driven on the approach to Marchwood and in the village itself. On top of this we have the people that work at the Industrial Estate many of which have little respect for speed limits on the Marchwood roads. We have Commercial vehicles chewing up the road surfaces causing pot holes all over the place, We have irresponsible operators overfilling their vehicles diesel tanks, turning Normandy way and its roundabouts into very dangerous places for motorcycles.[/p][/quote]so if as a lot of people are suggesting they widen the roads do you think this would ease the situation or make it worse for say speeding cars? I admit it was a few years since I've driven a lorry to the port but I do remember being told which route we could take & to steer away from built up areas so surely if there's a good road in then lorry drivers(transporters ) will take that option rather than drive through village centres won't they? from your post it's the industrial site where the problem is yet Cllr Harrison never mentions this? ABP has said it would use this port for cars & at least 2/3rds would go by train or be delivered by train so the traffic going to the port would be minimal so your councillor should have been trying to sort out the estate not stop the port[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Mr Harrison seems to have a habit of being slightly misinformed, often fails to find out the true details before saying what he thinks we want to hear. As for the roads Sure if they are wider, Straighter, better serviced, better lit let the speed limit go up, I would hope any road improvements would also include the much talked about cycle / footpath as well. The Army is not the problem and never has been they live by under rules and discipline, unfortunately businesses are the opposite. Fancy combining the 2 - mad world.[/p][/quote]so really you have a councillor desperate for votes siding with a minority NIMBY group & attacking all things Southampton instead of trying to sort out the problems the area already has correct?[/p][/quote]It certainly seems that way but then to be fair to the bloke he's a politician they are all like that :) Rolodojo
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Tue 14 Jan 14

loosehead says...

I'm looking to move either to Liverpool or Thailand so if neither Dibden or Marchwood Military port becomes a working docks & if the idiots try to restrict cruise ship traffic & this port closes then so be it my pension doesn't rely on a job related to the docks.
But to lose this port what exactly has this city & the surrounding areas got?
people cheered when BAT stopped manufacturing in this city losing 1,000 direct well paid jobs & God knows how many in the supply chain.
I also remember two watersiders whop worked at BAT cheering the NO to a container port at Dibden decision but then to change their opinion almost immediately when BAT announced the loss of all those jobs
I'm looking to move either to Liverpool or Thailand so if neither Dibden or Marchwood Military port becomes a working docks & if the idiots try to restrict cruise ship traffic & this port closes then so be it my pension doesn't rely on a job related to the docks. But to lose this port what exactly has this city & the surrounding areas got? people cheered when BAT stopped manufacturing in this city losing 1,000 direct well paid jobs & God knows how many in the supply chain. I also remember two watersiders whop worked at BAT cheering the NO to a container port at Dibden decision but then to change their opinion almost immediately when BAT announced the loss of all those jobs loosehead
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