Long traffic delays in Southampton city centre

Traffic in Southampton last month

Traffic in Southampton last month

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Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

MOTORISTS are facing severe delays in Southampton this morning as five cruise ships dock in the city.

Traffic has been building up in the Itchen bridge and Dock Gate 4 areas since 8am, which are both currently the subject of major road works.

One driver reported to the Daily Echo that it took them 25 minutes to get from New Road in the city centre to Dock Gate 4 - a journey of less than a mile.

Cruise ships Aracdia, Queen Mary 2, Queen Elizabeth, Saga Pearl and Saga Ruby II are all alongisde today.

The QM2 will later be at the centre of a fireworks display and celebrations to mark 10 years since its maiden voyage.

Outside Dock Gate 4, Platform Road is currently undergoing major roadworks to create a dual carriageway, while the junction at the western end of the Itchen Bridge is currently being redeveloped.

After previous delays when three cruise ships were in port, changes were made to the pelican crossing on Platform Road, linking the Eastern Docks and Queen's Park, in an attempt to keep road traffic moving as smoothly as possible.

The works on Platform Road began last summer, and are due to continue until April 2015.

Work on the Itchen Bridge is expected to continue until March, with further works on Central Bridge then being in place until May.

This morning's delays were compounded by a crash on Redbridge Road, with many drivers having to queue towards the M271 as they tried to leave the city.

A frustrated van driver from Southampton who did not want to be named, said:” Driving around this town today is terrible. There is traffic qued up from Millbrook railway station all the way to Dock Gate 4.

“Along West Quay Road people were getting out of their cars and talking to one another, it was absolutely awful. In all my years driving in Southampton I have seen bad traffic but never as bad as this.

"This kind of traffic is not going to help the city in the cruising trade because people might miss the boat because they are waiting for ages to move anywhere.”

Another aspect that could be adding to the traffic problems is a partial lane closure in Marsh Lane leading towards Dock Gate four.

The closure, which has been in place for less than a week, means that drivers who head towards Dock Gate four and the city centre are all forced to go into one lane, rather than the two that they could usually use.

By 1pm, traffic towards the Town Quay area from the west was queuing as far back as Millbrook Railway Station.

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9:39am Fri 10 Jan 14

Dasal says...

Quelle surprise !!!
Quelle surprise !!! Dasal
  • Score: 7

10:10am Fri 10 Jan 14

eurogordi says...

And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?
And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them? eurogordi
  • Score: 18

10:41am Fri 10 Jan 14

Dasal says...

eurogordi wrote:
And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?
Er, caught in traffic, maybe.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?[/p][/quote]Er, caught in traffic, maybe. Dasal
  • Score: 7

11:52am Fri 10 Jan 14

Dartom says...

From the Carnival building to the Red Funnel Terminal......an hour!! Ended up parking up and walking to meet the in-laws off the ship.
From the Carnival building to the Red Funnel Terminal......an hour!! Ended up parking up and walking to meet the in-laws off the ship. Dartom
  • Score: 7

11:59am Fri 10 Jan 14

boilerman says...

The council are making a laughing stock out of the city, if they want to drive the cruise companies away carry on .
Mountbatten way and west quay are always a nightmare with people lane hopping.
When we go into Southampton from Totton we get in the Left and lane after the Millbrook fly over and stay in that lane as it is usually quicker, but when you get people continuosly jumping from one lane to another and back again this slows everyone down.
The council are making a laughing stock out of the city, if they want to drive the cruise companies away carry on . Mountbatten way and west quay are always a nightmare with people lane hopping. When we go into Southampton from Totton we get in the Left and lane after the Millbrook fly over and stay in that lane as it is usually quicker, but when you get people continuosly jumping from one lane to another and back again this slows everyone down. boilerman
  • Score: 8

12:01pm Fri 10 Jan 14

eurogordi says...

Dasal wrote:
eurogordi wrote:
And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?
Er, caught in traffic, maybe.
Hardly, as Totton traffic police are almost within sight of the roundabout! But perhaps H&S prevents them walking!!
[quote][p][bold]Dasal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?[/p][/quote]Er, caught in traffic, maybe.[/p][/quote]Hardly, as Totton traffic police are almost within sight of the roundabout! But perhaps H&S prevents them walking!! eurogordi
  • Score: 4

12:06pm Fri 10 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

Dasal wrote:
eurogordi wrote:
And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?
Er, caught in traffic, maybe.
As the old saying goes, they are not caught in traffic, they ARE traffic.
[quote][p][bold]Dasal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: And it was also bad from Totton into the city, even though the Redbridge incident was westbound. Took me 15 minutes to get from Testwood Lane to the main roundabout in the town centre ... where I fortunately had to turn towards Netley Marsh rather than Southampton. It wasn't helped by drivers queuing across the roundabout, blocking exits and adding to the congestion. Why are people so selfish and/or ignorant of the Highway Code? And where are the traffic police when you really need them?[/p][/quote]Er, caught in traffic, maybe.[/p][/quote]As the old saying goes, they are not caught in traffic, they ARE traffic. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 8

12:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

7 comments so far and no mention of the cyclists???
7 comments so far and no mention of the cyclists??? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 10

12:32pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

boilerman wrote:
The council are making a laughing stock out of the city, if they want to drive the cruise companies away carry on .
Mountbatten way and west quay are always a nightmare with people lane hopping.
When we go into Southampton from Totton we get in the Left and lane after the Millbrook fly over and stay in that lane as it is usually quicker, but when you get people continuosly jumping from one lane to another and back again this slows everyone down.
I dont think that the council are to blame for the "lane hopping" do you
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: The council are making a laughing stock out of the city, if they want to drive the cruise companies away carry on . Mountbatten way and west quay are always a nightmare with people lane hopping. When we go into Southampton from Totton we get in the Left and lane after the Millbrook fly over and stay in that lane as it is usually quicker, but when you get people continuosly jumping from one lane to another and back again this slows everyone down.[/p][/quote]I dont think that the council are to blame for the "lane hopping" do you Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 4

12:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Harrysdog says...

Wasn't a meeting planned between the council, Balfour Beattie etc to try and clear this mess up ???
Wasn't a meeting planned between the council, Balfour Beattie etc to try and clear this mess up ??? Harrysdog
  • Score: 6

12:57pm Fri 10 Jan 14

vag says...

The new bit of the junction at the start of the central bridge / captains place isn't helping. I'm watching this from my lofty perch in South western house. It's very bad.
The new bit of the junction at the start of the central bridge / captains place isn't helping. I'm watching this from my lofty perch in South western house. It's very bad. vag
  • Score: 2

12:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

vag says...

Oh, how reticent of me, I can't get my car out, so I've cycled today.
Oh, how reticent of me, I can't get my car out, so I've cycled today. vag
  • Score: -1

1:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

vag wrote:
Oh, how reticent of me, I can't get my car out, so I've cycled today.
It's funny how you think "use car" first before "use bike"......
[quote][p][bold]vag[/bold] wrote: Oh, how reticent of me, I can't get my car out, so I've cycled today.[/p][/quote]It's funny how you think "use car" first before "use bike"...... S!monOn
  • Score: 4

1:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

camerajuan says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
7 comments so far and no mention of the cyclists???
I almost forgot to post!

9am, Freemantle to Totton. 10minutes. I wasn't even trying!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: 7 comments so far and no mention of the cyclists???[/p][/quote]I almost forgot to post! 9am, Freemantle to Totton. 10minutes. I wasn't even trying! camerajuan
  • Score: 0

1:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

There's Always Been Ethel says...

My helicopter allows me to oversee such traffic related carnage from a safe distance. I landed inside Dock Gate 4 and could not believe it. It is not the 5 cruise ships it is the Southampton road network failing miserably again.
My helicopter allows me to oversee such traffic related carnage from a safe distance. I landed inside Dock Gate 4 and could not believe it. It is not the 5 cruise ships it is the Southampton road network failing miserably again. There's Always Been Ethel
  • Score: 1

1:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

sotonbusdriver says...

There needs to be a feasible park&ride scheme, which would allow, commuters, shoppers and cruise passengers alike to effectively get to and from their places, without the need to drive into the city...
But ,Southampton City Council are fickle and misers, as they well know that there is nowhere within the cities boundaries that is suitable, so any revenue from the park&ride scheme would go to Fareham, New Forest, or Eastleigh councils, and not Southampton's pockets.
As a result they will not succumb to handing a very lucrative income from parking to another source...
This Council has always destroyed what has made the City great, by way of getting rid of the old walls and historic places, turning a diverse shopping area into a elitist array of shops and now clog up the city, so almost giving the cruise trade to our Competitors like Portsmouth and Liverpool, who are both fighting for the chance to excel, where as Southampton just sits on it's laurels...
There needs to be a feasible park&ride scheme, which would allow, commuters, shoppers and cruise passengers alike to effectively get to and from their places, without the need to drive into the city... But ,Southampton City Council are fickle and misers, as they well know that there is nowhere within the cities boundaries that is suitable, so any revenue from the park&ride scheme would go to Fareham, New Forest, or Eastleigh councils, and not Southampton's pockets. As a result they will not succumb to handing a very lucrative income from parking to another source... This Council has always destroyed what has made the City great, by way of getting rid of the old walls and historic places, turning a diverse shopping area into a elitist array of shops and now clog up the city, so almost giving the cruise trade to our Competitors like Portsmouth and Liverpool, who are both fighting for the chance to excel, where as Southampton just sits on it's laurels... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: 7

2:03pm Fri 10 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

There's Always Been Ethel wrote:
My helicopter allows me to oversee such traffic related carnage from a safe distance. I landed inside Dock Gate 4 and could not believe it. It is not the 5 cruise ships it is the Southampton road network failing miserably again.
The road network failed because of the increase in the number of people (as in passengers and suppliers) trying to reach the 5 cruise ships mixed with the normal rush hour traffic...... maybe.
[quote][p][bold]There's Always Been Ethel[/bold] wrote: My helicopter allows me to oversee such traffic related carnage from a safe distance. I landed inside Dock Gate 4 and could not believe it. It is not the 5 cruise ships it is the Southampton road network failing miserably again.[/p][/quote]The road network failed because of the increase in the number of people (as in passengers and suppliers) trying to reach the 5 cruise ships mixed with the normal rush hour traffic...... maybe. S!monOn
  • Score: 0

2:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

You'd think they would stop letting 5 ships at once dock knowing the traffic is so bad due to the road works
You'd think they would stop letting 5 ships at once dock knowing the traffic is so bad due to the road works Mary80
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Fri 10 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
There needs to be a feasible park&ride scheme, which would allow, commuters, shoppers and cruise passengers alike to effectively get to and from their places, without the need to drive into the city...
But ,Southampton City Council are fickle and misers, as they well know that there is nowhere within the cities boundaries that is suitable, so any revenue from the park&ride scheme would go to Fareham, New Forest, or Eastleigh councils, and not Southampton's pockets.
As a result they will not succumb to handing a very lucrative income from parking to another source...
This Council has always destroyed what has made the City great, by way of getting rid of the old walls and historic places, turning a diverse shopping area into a elitist array of shops and now clog up the city, so almost giving the cruise trade to our Competitors like Portsmouth and Liverpool, who are both fighting for the chance to excel, where as Southampton just sits on it's laurels...
So, exactly how do you suggest Southampton City Council to fund this park & ride scheme, given the fact that this "very lucrative income" stream would be going to someone else? Sensible answers on the back of a post card please.... and leave them at your nearest bus depot.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: There needs to be a feasible park&ride scheme, which would allow, commuters, shoppers and cruise passengers alike to effectively get to and from their places, without the need to drive into the city... But ,Southampton City Council are fickle and misers, as they well know that there is nowhere within the cities boundaries that is suitable, so any revenue from the park&ride scheme would go to Fareham, New Forest, or Eastleigh councils, and not Southampton's pockets. As a result they will not succumb to handing a very lucrative income from parking to another source... This Council has always destroyed what has made the City great, by way of getting rid of the old walls and historic places, turning a diverse shopping area into a elitist array of shops and now clog up the city, so almost giving the cruise trade to our Competitors like Portsmouth and Liverpool, who are both fighting for the chance to excel, where as Southampton just sits on it's laurels...[/p][/quote]So, exactly how do you suggest Southampton City Council to fund this park & ride scheme, given the fact that this "very lucrative income" stream would be going to someone else? Sensible answers on the back of a post card please.... and leave them at your nearest bus depot. S!monOn
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Fri 10 Jan 14

03alpe01 says...

A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this:

Dear Residents,

We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage.

Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront!

We are your Council, we don't care about you!

Sincerely,

Southampton City Council
A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this: Dear Residents, We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage. Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront! We are your Council, we don't care about you! Sincerely, Southampton City Council 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

6 frigging boats in we cant cope!
6 frigging boats in we cant cope! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Lone Ranger. says...

03alpe01 wrote:
A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this:

Dear Residents,

We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage.

Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront!

We are your Council, we don't care about you!

Sincerely,

Southampton City Council
You missed out the bit where you mum is going to vote UKIP ....... and on Monday you are going to get all your mates together and close the school that you attend
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this: Dear Residents, We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage. Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront! We are your Council, we don't care about you! Sincerely, Southampton City Council[/p][/quote]You missed out the bit where you mum is going to vote UKIP ....... and on Monday you are going to get all your mates together and close the school that you attend Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

12:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

zuki12 says...

traffic bad in Southampton as five cruise ships dock , Did they all come by road then.
traffic bad in Southampton as five cruise ships dock , Did they all come by road then. zuki12
  • Score: 1

9:16am Sun 12 Jan 14

in search of the truth says...

03alpe01 wrote:
A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this:

Dear Residents,

We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage.

Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront!

We are your Council, we don't care about you!

Sincerely,

Southampton City Council
Market forces will sort this mess out.
When the cruise passengers put in their complaints to the cruise operators and an analysis of passenger addresses is made the cruise companies will quickly realise that some of the ships should be based at other home ports than Southampton. The fact that people are expected to travel hundreds of miles in order to pick up a cruise ship at the cruise ship bus stops situated in Southampton is utterly ridiculous and this farce highlights the fact to existing passengers, potential passengers and the cruise lines.
There is very little in Southampton to interest to cruise passengers who are in transit, it's hardly an international city with a cultural diversity where one might stay for any period before or after a cruise, after this little episode it is clear that Southampton cannot cope with problems that affect most cities from time to time ( roadworks ).
The vast majority of these passengers never look around or spend money in Southampton and therefore Southampton gains no appreciable benefit from them, they are purely clogging up the roads to the cruise ship bus stops, in future however they may vote with their feet and complain to the cruise companies that this time, enough is enough and the cruise companies who have no particular loyalty may start basing ships in other more interesting and closer ports to their customers.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: A Southampton Councillor would address this problem like this: Dear Residents, We care not for you. You say you want a park and ride scheme? No chance, as this would destroy any meaning behind the 'lucrative' evening parking charges scheme. We as a Council care about the following and the following only. 1) Extending West Quay 2) Building even more 'landmark' flats and carrying out our 'ambitious vision' for the City 3) Having as many shops, bars, cinemas and restaurants down here as possible, without giving a toss about our rich and proud history and heritage. Cruise ships going some place else? Nah no chance, no matter what we do the cruise ships will still come here. We like the traffic problems in the City as they show that people are coming into the City and 'investment in the City' is on the rise. You want a view of the cruise ships? Buy a flat on the Waterfront! We are your Council, we don't care about you! Sincerely, Southampton City Council[/p][/quote]Market forces will sort this mess out. When the cruise passengers put in their complaints to the cruise operators and an analysis of passenger addresses is made the cruise companies will quickly realise that some of the ships should be based at other home ports than Southampton. The fact that people are expected to travel hundreds of miles in order to pick up a cruise ship at the cruise ship bus stops situated in Southampton is utterly ridiculous and this farce highlights the fact to existing passengers, potential passengers and the cruise lines. There is very little in Southampton to interest to cruise passengers who are in transit, it's hardly an international city with a cultural diversity where one might stay for any period before or after a cruise, after this little episode it is clear that Southampton cannot cope with problems that affect most cities from time to time ( roadworks ). The vast majority of these passengers never look around or spend money in Southampton and therefore Southampton gains no appreciable benefit from them, they are purely clogging up the roads to the cruise ship bus stops, in future however they may vote with their feet and complain to the cruise companies that this time, enough is enough and the cruise companies who have no particular loyalty may start basing ships in other more interesting and closer ports to their customers. in search of the truth
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