Motorist 'lucky to be alive' after car overturns on M271 near Southampton

Daily Echo: Police close motorway after car overturns Police close motorway after car overturns

POLICE say a motorist is "lucky to be alive" after a car flipped over on to its roof on a busy motorway.

The M271 southbound carriageway has reopened after a silver Peugeot 206 overturned on to its roof close to the slip road at junction one.

Daily Echo:

Police had closed it while the stricken vehicle was recovered.

A member of the police roads unit at the scene took to social networking site Twitter to say the motorist was "lucky to be alive" but had only suffered "minor injuries."

Daily Echo:

Motorists were allowed to turn their cars around and head back towards the M27 interchange to find alternative routes into Southampton but traffic trying to leave the M27 to get on to the M271 is backing up.

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10:29am Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2.
Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2. good-gosh
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10:40am Sat 25 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

when are motorists going to grow up and cut their speed, every day it's another story, everyone is in to much of a hurry, for what?
when are motorists going to grow up and cut their speed, every day it's another story, everyone is in to much of a hurry, for what? bigfella777
  • Score: -31

10:55am Sat 25 Jan 14

Reality-man says...

good-gosh wrote:
Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2.
I haven't even got a steeling wheel so will have to skip step 2
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2.[/p][/quote]I haven't even got a steeling wheel so will have to skip step 2 Reality-man
  • Score: -5

10:57am Sat 25 Jan 14

Just another reader says...

Good to see the judge and jury have already decided what happened here.
Good to see the judge and jury have already decided what happened here. Just another reader
  • Score: 20

11:14am Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

Reality-man wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2.
I haven't even got a steeling wheel so will have to skip step 2
When is the next MOT? I think steering wheels are on their checklist.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: Instruction on how to roll a car – 1) ensure speed is over 30 mph. 2) turn steeling wheel sharply and 3) brake hard. Instruction on how to avoid it – skip step 2.[/p][/quote]I haven't even got a steeling wheel so will have to skip step 2[/p][/quote]When is the next MOT? I think steering wheels are on their checklist. good-gosh
  • Score: 1

11:29am Sat 25 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

Just another reader wrote:
Good to see the judge and jury have already decided what happened here.
Perhaps the Roads Policing Unit could disband the Investigation Department and just ask the opinion of the nearest pedal pushing half-wit.
[quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: Good to see the judge and jury have already decided what happened here.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the Roads Policing Unit could disband the Investigation Department and just ask the opinion of the nearest pedal pushing half-wit. Torchie1
  • Score: 11

12:40pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Inform Al says...

bigfella777 wrote:
when are motorists going to grow up and cut their speed, every day it's another story, everyone is in to much of a hurry, for what?
Oh dear, I've just got to Kent having driven up the M3 at my usual speed, whilst overtaking a long line of slower cars, whilst on the middle lane, a motor cyclist came very close to the rear end of my car then pulled out into the outside overtaking lane then cut in in front of me at the same time signalling me to pull into the slow lane. Got a nasty suspicion what colour his hair is. Another two wheeler who thinks he owns the road.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: when are motorists going to grow up and cut their speed, every day it's another story, everyone is in to much of a hurry, for what?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, I've just got to Kent having driven up the M3 at my usual speed, whilst overtaking a long line of slower cars, whilst on the middle lane, a motor cyclist came very close to the rear end of my car then pulled out into the outside overtaking lane then cut in in front of me at the same time signalling me to pull into the slow lane. Got a nasty suspicion what colour his hair is. Another two wheeler who thinks he owns the road. Inform Al
  • Score: -2

2:41pm Sat 25 Jan 14

MrsJLC says...

I know the young man involved and he actually had a blow out on his rear tyre, so before you start to judge people and stereotype...He is very lucky not to be injured and is very grateful to be alive.....
I know the young man involved and he actually had a blow out on his rear tyre, so before you start to judge people and stereotype...He is very lucky not to be injured and is very grateful to be alive..... MrsJLC
  • Score: 26

4:43pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Tottonrory says...

Big fella 77 drop dead your comments are from someone who thinks they no it all and no nothing , bet your one of these **** heads that slow down and rubber neck crashes so do one and F--K OFF
Big fella 77 drop dead your comments are from someone who thinks they no it all and no nothing , bet your one of these **** heads that slow down and rubber neck crashes so do one and F--K OFF Tottonrory
  • Score: 4

5:29pm Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal.
There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal. good-gosh
  • Score: -9

5:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

MrsJLC says...

****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal****
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SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......
****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal**** ____________________ ____________________ _________________. SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you....... MrsJLC
  • Score: 12

6:04pm Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

MrsJLC wrote:
****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal****
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SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......
Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood.
[quote][p][bold]MrsJLC[/bold] wrote: ****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal**** ____________________ ____________________ _________________. SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......[/p][/quote]Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood. good-gosh
  • Score: -8

6:37pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Franks Tank says...

Don't think those scratches will "polish out".
Don't think those scratches will "polish out". Franks Tank
  • Score: -2

7:09pm Sat 25 Jan 14

BeyondImagination says...

I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?
I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice? BeyondImagination
  • Score: 4

7:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

dolomiteman says...

good-gosh wrote:
MrsJLC wrote:
****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal****
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SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......
Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood.
'good-gosh' is 100% correct you should accelerate hard....... into the cars in front, that so that you will be causing as much carnage as possible and possibly seriously injuring others but at least your written off car will still be upright.

Seriously though that was a really bad explanation but 'good-gosh' is an armchair expert who has never crashed his high back reclining executive leatherette chair in his long career of giving incorrect advice.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsJLC[/bold] wrote: ****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal**** ____________________ ____________________ _________________. SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......[/p][/quote]Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood.[/p][/quote]'good-gosh' is 100% correct you should accelerate hard....... into the cars in front, that so that you will be causing as much carnage as possible and possibly seriously injuring others but at least your written off car will still be upright. Seriously though that was a really bad explanation but 'good-gosh' is an armchair expert who has never crashed his high back reclining executive leatherette chair in his long career of giving incorrect advice. dolomiteman
  • Score: 8

7:32pm Sat 25 Jan 14

BeyondImagination says...

I don't think the M271 is long enough to carry out gg's procedure.
I don't think the M271 is long enough to carry out gg's procedure. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 2

7:59pm Sat 25 Jan 14

B41L3Y says...

Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have
Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have B41L3Y
  • Score: 3

8:29pm Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

dolomiteman wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
MrsJLC wrote:
****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal****
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SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......
Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood.
'good-gosh' is 100% correct you should accelerate hard....... into the cars in front, that so that you will be causing as much carnage as possible and possibly seriously injuring others but at least your written off car will still be upright.

Seriously though that was a really bad explanation but 'good-gosh' is an armchair expert who has never crashed his high back reclining executive leatherette chair in his long career of giving incorrect advice.
I'm not an armchair driver at all - and I've used the acceleration method myself when rammed on the M40. It works perfectly.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsJLC[/bold] wrote: ****good-gosh says...There is no need to lose control from a blowout. The procedure is a bit counter-instinctive so a little skill is needed. And do not panic, it's going to take time to stop and it will seem like ages. First, do NOT change direction. Next, ACCELLERATE hard (do not brake) to keep the car under control and on a straight line. Only after regaining control - gently decelerate and gently steer to the road side without braking, and finally brake gently when the car is moving straight again along the roadside – do everything nice and easy like driving on ice and nothing can upset the car. Finally, shout off a few curses to lower the pulse rate to normal**** ____________________ ____________________ _________________. SHUT UP YOU NOB.....all blow outs are not the same... people react differently.....not everyone has read the "blow out, how to avoid rolling your car guide" like you.......[/p][/quote]Sorry you don’t like it. I thought it was quite a good little explanation. And since it is the only way to keep control after either a blowout or a side rear collision, I suggest it is re-read so that it is clearly understood.[/p][/quote]'good-gosh' is 100% correct you should accelerate hard....... into the cars in front, that so that you will be causing as much carnage as possible and possibly seriously injuring others but at least your written off car will still be upright. Seriously though that was a really bad explanation but 'good-gosh' is an armchair expert who has never crashed his high back reclining executive leatherette chair in his long career of giving incorrect advice.[/p][/quote]I'm not an armchair driver at all - and I've used the acceleration method myself when rammed on the M40. It works perfectly. good-gosh
  • Score: -5

8:52pm Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

B41L3Y wrote:
Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have
I understand what you write but actually drivers normally react instantly. They immediately correct direction after common shocks like hitting pot holes or lumps of wood at speed, so the instinct to keep their line is there in the head all the time. That is the most important thing – avoid swerving at speed. The next bit – accelerating to improve control – just needs a bit of practice – and it soon becomes instinctive as well.
[quote][p][bold]B41L3Y[/bold] wrote: Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have[/p][/quote]I understand what you write but actually drivers normally react instantly. They immediately correct direction after common shocks like hitting pot holes or lumps of wood at speed, so the instinct to keep their line is there in the head all the time. That is the most important thing – avoid swerving at speed. The next bit – accelerating to improve control – just needs a bit of practice – and it soon becomes instinctive as well. good-gosh
  • Score: -5

10:09pm Sat 25 Jan 14

dolomiteman says...

good-gosh wrote:
B41L3Y wrote:
Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have
I understand what you write but actually drivers normally react instantly. They immediately correct direction after common shocks like hitting pot holes or lumps of wood at speed, so the instinct to keep their line is there in the head all the time. That is the most important thing – avoid swerving at speed. The next bit – accelerating to improve control – just needs a bit of practice – and it soon becomes instinctive as well.
So your advice stems from being rammed up your arse which isn't the same as having a blow out is it? and you refer to incidents of hitting debris, yes do avoid swerving at speed, any speed, that's in the highway code and common sense but you say 'it just needs a bit of practice' but when do you get to practice having blow outs or hitting potholes etc., every incident is different. and when a tyre blows it can cause the car to swerve without any input from the driver.
I have suffered a blow out and guess what, I took my foot OFF the throttle, the car didn't roll and I eased slowly into a side road.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B41L3Y[/bold] wrote: Good gosh talks ****! It's only a matter of seconds you get to react to something like that and in those matter of seconds you panic! Or some people like good gosh get there little book out on how to avoid rolling you car in those minoir seconds you have[/p][/quote]I understand what you write but actually drivers normally react instantly. They immediately correct direction after common shocks like hitting pot holes or lumps of wood at speed, so the instinct to keep their line is there in the head all the time. That is the most important thing – avoid swerving at speed. The next bit – accelerating to improve control – just needs a bit of practice – and it soon becomes instinctive as well.[/p][/quote]So your advice stems from being rammed up your arse which isn't the same as having a blow out is it? and you refer to incidents of hitting debris, yes do avoid swerving at speed, any speed, that's in the highway code and common sense but you say 'it just needs a bit of practice' but when do you get to practice having blow outs or hitting potholes etc., every incident is different. and when a tyre blows it can cause the car to swerve without any input from the driver. I have suffered a blow out and guess what, I took my foot OFF the throttle, the car didn't roll and I eased slowly into a side road. dolomiteman
  • Score: 1

10:33pm Sat 25 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

And your advice is what, exactly?
And your advice is what, exactly? good-gosh
  • Score: -7

8:49am Sun 26 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

My little write up was an easy way to keep control of a car when it is being turned off course by a tyre exploding or a collision impact. They are the same – forces trying to flip the car. Adding lots of power counteracts those forces, braking will make them worse. Nobody HAS to use the techniques – but they will be safe if they do. Take it or leave it. Some comments here suggest it can be all too much – I agree, lots of drivers a totally unprepared for an emergency, are completely hopeless and always will be. Best not to be one of them, eh?
My little write up was an easy way to keep control of a car when it is being turned off course by a tyre exploding or a collision impact. They are the same – forces trying to flip the car. Adding lots of power counteracts those forces, braking will make them worse. Nobody HAS to use the techniques – but they will be safe if they do. Take it or leave it. Some comments here suggest it can be all too much – I agree, lots of drivers a totally unprepared for an emergency, are completely hopeless and always will be. Best not to be one of them, eh? good-gosh
  • Score: -2

9:21am Sun 26 Jan 14

downfader says...

Again with the arguments. Again I say this: perhaps if some of you refrained from the negative and nasty comments on the cycling related stories and in the letters against riders...?

Hoist by your own petard. We are not your enemy. These forums have become reactive as a result.
Again with the arguments. Again I say this: perhaps if some of you refrained from the negative and nasty comments on the cycling related stories and in the letters against riders...? Hoist by your own petard. We are not your enemy. These forums have become reactive as a result. downfader
  • Score: 2

9:49am Sun 26 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?
Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?[/p][/quote]Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK? good-gosh
  • Score: -2

9:58am Sun 26 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
I don't think the M271 is long enough to carry out gg's procedure.
At 70 mph you really need about 1/2 mile to regain control and then stop gently. If there isn't enough road, then you pick out the softest place to crash. Better that than spin about completely out of control.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: I don't think the M271 is long enough to carry out gg's procedure.[/p][/quote]At 70 mph you really need about 1/2 mile to regain control and then stop gently. If there isn't enough road, then you pick out the softest place to crash. Better that than spin about completely out of control. good-gosh
  • Score: -1

10:04am Sun 26 Jan 14

downfader says...

good-gosh wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?
Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?
Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that?
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?[/p][/quote]Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?[/p][/quote]Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that? downfader
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10:30am Sun 26 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

How long since the young driver passed his test? A test which doesn't include any check on driving on motorways. Young drivers represent 12% of road users but they have 25% of accidents. I wonder how much truth there is in the claim he had a blow out!
How long since the young driver passed his test? A test which doesn't include any check on driving on motorways. Young drivers represent 12% of road users but they have 25% of accidents. I wonder how much truth there is in the claim he had a blow out! miltonarcher
  • Score: 2

10:30am Sun 26 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

downfader wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?
Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?
Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that?
No, I haven’t got any links to hand but it would be surprising if there was no advice on the web
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?[/p][/quote]Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?[/p][/quote]Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that?[/p][/quote]No, I haven’t got any links to hand but it would be surprising if there was no advice on the web good-gosh
  • Score: 0

10:35am Sun 26 Jan 14

downfader says...

miltonarcher wrote:
How long since the young driver passed his test? A test which doesn't include any check on driving on motorways. Young drivers represent 12% of road users but they have 25% of accidents. I wonder how much truth there is in the claim he had a blow out!
The stats are sound, and the under 25s represent the worst collisions on the roads and motorways.

However I do have a workmate, 23 when his tyre blew out on the motorway. He very luckily managed to reach the hardshoulder as it was a straight section of motorway. They reckon his blew out as he'd damaged it on potholes and bumping kerbs. Car had just been MOT'd too.

Would recommend everyone gets out there and checks their vehicle over.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: How long since the young driver passed his test? A test which doesn't include any check on driving on motorways. Young drivers represent 12% of road users but they have 25% of accidents. I wonder how much truth there is in the claim he had a blow out![/p][/quote]The stats are sound, and the under 25s represent the worst collisions on the roads and motorways. However I do have a workmate, 23 when his tyre blew out on the motorway. He very luckily managed to reach the hardshoulder as it was a straight section of motorway. They reckon his blew out as he'd damaged it on potholes and bumping kerbs. Car had just been MOT'd too. Would recommend everyone gets out there and checks their vehicle over. downfader
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8:08pm Sun 26 Jan 14

dolomiteman says...

downfader wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?
Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?
Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that?
RAC....... •Try to point the car as straight as possible. Trying to turn will only result in the car becoming more out of control due to the blown out tyre.
•Let the car slow itself down.
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: I was taught to never accelarate in a blow out or a skid. Release the accelerator immediately, look where you want to go and avoid fierce steering. What is Good Gosh's authority for his advice?[/p][/quote]Correct for a skid - the car is sliding and any change in speed o direction will make it worse. Wrong for a blowout - power will help bring the car back under control. My authority? common sense, experience, understanding. Always right? No. Make mistakes? Yes, often – but never massive, never fatal and never putting others at risk. OK?[/p][/quote]Got any RAC or IAM links to prove that?[/p][/quote]RAC....... •Try to point the car as straight as possible. Trying to turn will only result in the car becoming more out of control due to the blown out tyre. •Let the car slow itself down. dolomiteman
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9:20pm Sun 26 Jan 14

good-gosh says...

I have seen that RAC note and it goes some way to give good advice but it shies away from advocating accelerating. I think they want to emphasise the most important aspect of blowout control – the need to steer straight without sharp braking - and don’t want to fog up that message with the added acceleration advice that may be difficult to understand.

The problem with the RAC advice is that, on blowout, the car could move 10 degrees off line and, if a driver maintained that new line as advised, the car could move into adjacent lane traffic or hit the central reservation. The only safe way to arrest the 10 degree deviation is to put power on and resume the original line. There are sites that advocate accelerating for that reason (smartdriving.co.uk which has a nice video and roaddriver.co.uk).

I can only suggest that, like anything else, those who can't understand it should not bother with it - although that is a great shame because accelerating is the best way to keep control.
I have seen that RAC note and it goes some way to give good advice but it shies away from advocating accelerating. I think they want to emphasise the most important aspect of blowout control – the need to steer straight without sharp braking - and don’t want to fog up that message with the added acceleration advice that may be difficult to understand. The problem with the RAC advice is that, on blowout, the car could move 10 degrees off line and, if a driver maintained that new line as advised, the car could move into adjacent lane traffic or hit the central reservation. The only safe way to arrest the 10 degree deviation is to put power on and resume the original line. There are sites that advocate accelerating for that reason (smartdriving.co.uk which has a nice video and roaddriver.co.uk). I can only suggest that, like anything else, those who can't understand it should not bother with it - although that is a great shame because accelerating is the best way to keep control. good-gosh
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