Vandals on rampage three times in three days in Millbrook, Southampton

Andrew Morgan had all the windows smashed on his Citroen Picasso

Andrew Morgan had all the windows smashed on his Citroen Picasso

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

VANDALS have gone on the rampage in a Southampton street, smashing the windows of three vehicles in three days.

Now residents are calling for tougher policing to combat crime in Millbrook before it gets any worse.

Grandfather of 12 Andrew Morgan was left devastated after thugs smashed all of the windows on his Citroen Picasso causing £1,500 worth of damage.

Then two days later the same thugs are thought to have struck again, smashing the windows of his daughter’s and a neighbour’s Ford Focus, which were also parked on Cherwell Crescent.

Now the 68-year-old lorry driver, who has lived in Millbrook for 12 years, says he feels let down by police and is calling for CCTV and more officers patrolling the area.

He said: “I’ve got no faith in this system now. The police are not backing you up – they should step this up.

“Crime is getting higher and higher. There should be more CCTV and more officers on the street.

“I’m a prisoner in my own home now. It’s like chopping my legs off and it’s costing me money. I just feel we’ve been let down – not just me but members of the public.

“The next thing that will happen is someone is going to get killed around here.”

A police spokesman said: “We are carrying out extensive inquires into the recent cases of criminal damage. We are keeping a close eye on the area and patrols have been stepped up both as a deterrent and to catch anyone who is carrying out these acts of vandalism.

“Generally patrols are prioritised where they are needed most. If there is a particular problem in a particular area expect to see us more. We do have limited resources but regularly patrol all our beat areas. How often dep-ends on lots of factors, such as ongoing policing priorities at the time and the levels of crime in any particular area.”

Councillor Andrew Pope, who represents that ward, said: “Over the last year I have listened to local residents and businesses and worked with the police and the council’s community safety staff to improve the area.

“At the request of the vast majority of residents we have installed CCTV, had a section 30 dispersal order and organised a new Neighbourhood Watch group that met at the reopened Link building. I hope more residents get involved with the Neighbourhood Watch.

“We will continue to improve the area if we continue to work together.”

Anyone with information about the incidents, which happened on Saturday, January 11 and Monday, January 13, is asked to call the Shirley Safer Neighbourhood team on 101 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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9:11am Sun 26 Jan 14

BorislawGeorgiew says...

Broken windows,smashed up panes,
Mucky spitting down the drains
Aerosol cans sparkling new
They spray the paint on what belongs
to you.

Making noise so you can't sleep,
Drinking beer out in the streets,
Roaming free 8 till 2,
They spray the paint upon the loo.

Nike trainers upon their feet,
Throwing litter in the street,
Wearing tracksuits in the night
They give you such a tremendous fright
Broken windows,smashed up panes, Mucky spitting down the drains Aerosol cans sparkling new They spray the paint on what belongs to you. Making noise so you can't sleep, Drinking beer out in the streets, Roaming free 8 till 2, They spray the paint upon the loo. Nike trainers upon their feet, Throwing litter in the street, Wearing tracksuits in the night They give you such a tremendous fright BorislawGeorgiew
  • Score: -11

9:28am Sun 26 Jan 14

derek james says...

welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is derek james
  • Score: 18

10:19am Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures southy
  • Score: 12

10:51am Sun 26 Jan 14

madmandy says...

if these thugs get caught they will get told off and then of they go laughing with mates and the poor victims get told, we caught them but has no justice really has been done .Get the thugs and make them clean up the area forget human right for them put a bright orange suit on them to id them while they are doing the the clean up. see who laughing then.
if these thugs get caught they will get told off and then of they go laughing with mates and the poor victims get told, we caught them but has no justice really has been done .Get the thugs and make them clean up the area forget human right for them put a bright orange suit on them to id them while they are doing the the clean up. see who laughing then. madmandy
  • Score: 18

10:55am Sun 26 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 5

11:21am Sun 26 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council.
The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too!
It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either.
Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad.
Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go?
It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'.
We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even
know if it can be got back?
It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council. The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too! It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either. Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad. Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go? It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'. We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even know if it can be got back? SOULJACKER
  • Score: 20

11:23am Sun 26 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

madmandy wrote:
if these thugs get caught they will get told off and then of they go laughing with mates and the poor victims get told, we caught them but has no justice really has been done .Get the thugs and make them clean up the area forget human right for them put a bright orange suit on them to id them while they are doing the the clean up. see who laughing then.
Used to be that the local bobby on the beat would take you home to your parents & let them deal with you.
That said, these are probably the parents!
[quote][p][bold]madmandy[/bold] wrote: if these thugs get caught they will get told off and then of they go laughing with mates and the poor victims get told, we caught them but has no justice really has been done .Get the thugs and make them clean up the area forget human right for them put a bright orange suit on them to id them while they are doing the the clean up. see who laughing then.[/p][/quote]Used to be that the local bobby on the beat would take you home to your parents & let them deal with you. That said, these are probably the parents! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 14

11:28am Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in. Shoong
  • Score: 1

11:29am Sun 26 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

11:41am Sun 26 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 6

11:49am Sun 26 Jan 14

Tiz says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council.
The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too!
It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either.
Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad.
Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go?
It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'.
We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even
know if it can be got back?
The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and....
We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language.
Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council. The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too! It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either. Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad. Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go? It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'. We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even know if it can be got back?[/p][/quote]The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and.... We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language. Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here. Tiz
  • Score: 3

11:51am Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example.

It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan?

Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example. It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan? Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order. Shoong
  • Score: -6

11:56am Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.
Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population.
The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.[/p][/quote]Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population. The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound southy
  • Score: -4

12:07pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end southy
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end
Perhaps if you would like to go back and read my post again I was suggesting quite the opposite.

A community divided is no kind of community at all - every one knows this.

Who's attempting to mislead now? You are posting without thinking, a accusation you accuse many of frequently.

You are the babbling brook of brazen hypocrisy.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you would like to go back and read my post again I was suggesting quite the opposite. A community divided is no kind of community at all - every one knows this. Who's attempting to mislead now? You are posting without thinking, a accusation you accuse many of frequently. You are the babbling brook of brazen hypocrisy. Shoong
  • Score: -2

12:23pm Sun 26 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

Tiz wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council.
The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too!
It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either.
Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad.
Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go?
It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'.
We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even
know if it can be got back?
The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and....
We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language.
Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.
You are not wrong there.
It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one.
It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door.
[quote][p][bold]Tiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council. The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too! It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either. Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad. Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go? It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'. We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even know if it can be got back?[/p][/quote]The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and.... We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language. Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.[/p][/quote]You are not wrong there. It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one. It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Sun 26 Jan 14

SOULJACKER says...

Shoong wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example.

It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan?

Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order.
I am not even going to bother getting into a venting session with the likes of you.
It must be hard being so freakin perfect all the time & yet be such a tw@t, can't be bothered with the likes of you!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example. It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan? Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order.[/p][/quote]I am not even going to bother getting into a venting session with the likes of you. It must be hard being so freakin perfect all the time & yet be such a tw@t, can't be bothered with the likes of you! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 5

12:33pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example.

It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan?

Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order.
I am not even going to bother getting into a venting session with the likes of you.
It must be hard being so freakin perfect all the time & yet be such a tw@t, can't be bothered with the likes of you!
Perfect? Far from it.

It's a shame that you had to resort to such language.

If doing your bit for the local community warrants calling me names, then you can call me what you like.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]Right, so you've been on litter duty, a commendable effort and I have volunteered on many occasions for this task. It's a rewarding task and you would hope that it sets a good example. It's one thing to pick up litter but how does that help Mr Morgan? Your intentions are good but the priorities are in the wrong order.[/p][/quote]I am not even going to bother getting into a venting session with the likes of you. It must be hard being so freakin perfect all the time & yet be such a tw@t, can't be bothered with the likes of you![/p][/quote]Perfect? Far from it. It's a shame that you had to resort to such language. If doing your bit for the local community warrants calling me names, then you can call me what you like. Shoong
  • Score: -3

12:33pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Tiz wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council.
The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too!
It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either.
Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad.
Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go?
It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'.
We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even
know if it can be got back?
The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and....
We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language.
Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.
You are not wrong there.
It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one.
It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door.
That,s bad Soul and it just go's to show what the world as come to in the last 30 years, there was a time before 1980 a new neighbour would bring out the neighbourhood out to introduce them self,s even offer them in for a drink and to help out to move in
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council. The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too! It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either. Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad. Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go? It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'. We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even know if it can be got back?[/p][/quote]The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and.... We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language. Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.[/p][/quote]You are not wrong there. It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one. It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door.[/p][/quote]That,s bad Soul and it just go's to show what the world as come to in the last 30 years, there was a time before 1980 a new neighbour would bring out the neighbourhood out to introduce them self,s even offer them in for a drink and to help out to move in southy
  • Score: -1

12:40pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer
True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer.

Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer[/p][/quote]True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer. Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation southy
  • Score: -4

12:47pm Sun 26 Jan 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

southy wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Tiz wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council.
The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too!
It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either.
Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad.
Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go?
It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'.
We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even
know if it can be got back?
The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and....
We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language.
Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.
You are not wrong there.
It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one.
It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door.
That,s bad Soul and it just go's to show what the world as come to in the last 30 years, there was a time before 1980 a new neighbour would bring out the neighbourhood out to introduce them self,s even offer them in for a drink and to help out to move in
more likely to size up your belongings these days.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tiz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: It's the same old thing, the police don't really give a dam & neither do the council. The police just want an easy time catching you doing 31 in a 30 limit & the council.....well the council if they knew how to tax you for getting your car vandalised or your windows smashed then they would be all up in that too! It has to be said that alot of residents in various area really don't care too much about what happens to their neighbours either. Neighbours don't want to get actively involved with each other nowadays as they did in the 1970's wnen I was was a kid which is sad. Long gone are the days of looking out for the old widow down the road, asking if she needed any shopping, mowing her lawn etc....Neighbourhood spirit where did that go? It always feels to me that the modern society ethic of 'I'm alright Jack' seems to have taken over because it has been actively encouraged by the coucils & governments because they are 'alright Jack'. We have definatelly lost what once made our country great & I don't even know if it can be got back?[/p][/quote]The "I'm alright Jack attitutude is evidenced by the shift in language. When I was at school (70's) we were taught that in grammar you always put the other person 1st, i.e You and I went to../...from you and me etc. Nowadays it all me and.... We also have the use of questions - rather than "would you like...?" we get "Do you want...?" to which the response is "I want...". Even newsreaders have changed their use of the language. Language is communication and what the shift in language is communicating is that the culture of self is here.[/p][/quote]You are not wrong there. It is all over the TV & the papers so I guess people spend too much time in front of either one. It is so sad that my area is a big area & I have lived here for over twenty years now & I still don't know who lives next door.[/p][/quote]That,s bad Soul and it just go's to show what the world as come to in the last 30 years, there was a time before 1980 a new neighbour would bring out the neighbourhood out to introduce them self,s even offer them in for a drink and to help out to move in[/p][/quote]more likely to size up your belongings these days. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

Have a listen to this guy in Scotland on Question Time (it was taking down on you tube uk but its still up on you tube be) The Location Station Master was heard to say Cut the Program that man as just won.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=KyTP5GUH1
Uw&feature=youtu.be

These are the things that the right do not want you to hear
Have a listen to this guy in Scotland on Question Time (it was taking down on you tube uk but its still up on you tube be) The Location Station Master was heard to say Cut the Program that man as just won. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=KyTP5GUH1 Uw&feature=youtu.be These are the things that the right do not want you to hear southy
  • Score: 0

1:30pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.
Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population.
The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound
I briefly thought about posting your original quote but you'd only accuse me of altering it so I won't waste my time. I do think of you from time to time when The Question Time audience yields a raving response from your local equivalent who rants on and on until the chairman shuts them up with a dismissive response.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.[/p][/quote]Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population. The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound[/p][/quote]I briefly thought about posting your original quote but you'd only accuse me of altering it so I won't waste my time. I do think of you from time to time when The Question Time audience yields a raving response from your local equivalent who rants on and on until the chairman shuts them up with a dismissive response. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Sun 26 Jan 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.
Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population.
The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound
I briefly thought about posting your original quote but you'd only accuse me of altering it so I won't waste my time. I do think of you from time to time when The Question Time audience yields a raving response from your local equivalent who rants on and on until the chairman shuts them up with a dismissive response.
They shut them up for 1 reason, to stop the truth from getting out, Question time is a controlled program, to get on there you are ask to fill out a form and if you put down certain groups you will not get on the show, you are also ask what will your question be if ask and again if its a question that points out the real truth you will not get on the show, but every so often 1 person slips though.
You only thought about about posting what I said in the pass, what your saying in a round about way was that I did not say the TUSC it was the SP I said, who are a group with in the TUSC
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]Just remind us who stated that Tusc was the fastest growing political party before you throw accusations of 'massaging the figures' about. As of today's date this fast growing political party is still a nonentity looking for a victory over the 'Elvis lovesPets' party.[/p][/quote]Do try and get it right I did not say the TUSC is but a branch/supporting group of it is, and at the time it was correct it was the fastest growing political party at that time, it as slowed down in membership at the moment, but it as not got to the stage of the Tory,s and Labour party where membership is falling to the % of rise in population. The TUSC is made up of groups that are Left to Center and Center ground, its the only political group that covers the center gound[/p][/quote]I briefly thought about posting your original quote but you'd only accuse me of altering it so I won't waste my time. I do think of you from time to time when The Question Time audience yields a raving response from your local equivalent who rants on and on until the chairman shuts them up with a dismissive response.[/p][/quote]They shut them up for 1 reason, to stop the truth from getting out, Question time is a controlled program, to get on there you are ask to fill out a form and if you put down certain groups you will not get on the show, you are also ask what will your question be if ask and again if its a question that points out the real truth you will not get on the show, but every so often 1 person slips though. You only thought about about posting what I said in the pass, what your saying in a round about way was that I did not say the TUSC it was the SP I said, who are a group with in the TUSC southy
  • Score: -3

1:56pm Sun 26 Jan 14

st1halo says...

Wasn't there a 'masked raiders' story linked to this guy not so long ago, bit more involved than just vandalism here if you ask me..
Wasn't there a 'masked raiders' story linked to this guy not so long ago, bit more involved than just vandalism here if you ask me.. st1halo
  • Score: 2

9:14pm Sun 26 Jan 14

loosehead says...

didn't the labour party set up neighbourhood wardens?I saw two of their vans sat in Sainsbury car park Shirley on tuesday aren't they suppose to keep an eye out for this sort of thing?
So please tell me how this is the Governments fault? more police?
exactly how many police would we need to stand on every street in every area of this city?
you can buy & set up your own CCTV & help catch this idiots & just remember many are locals so someone knows what they're doing so why aren't they telling the police?
you can drive or patrol an area but will you catch them? NO as you can't be every where at the same time.
So we get an increase of police as they saturate an area then let's hear the outcry as not only vandals are caught but all law breakers
didn't the labour party set up neighbourhood wardens?I saw two of their vans sat in Sainsbury car park Shirley on tuesday aren't they suppose to keep an eye out for this sort of thing? So please tell me how this is the Governments fault? more police? exactly how many police would we need to stand on every street in every area of this city? you can buy & set up your own CCTV & help catch this idiots & just remember many are locals so someone knows what they're doing so why aren't they telling the police? you can drive or patrol an area but will you catch them? NO as you can't be every where at the same time. So we get an increase of police as they saturate an area then let's hear the outcry as not only vandals are caught but all law breakers loosehead
  • Score: 3

9:17pm Sun 26 Jan 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Shoong wrote:
ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points.

The 'alright jack' attitude?

You are all just as guilty.

It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.
You don't need to tell me that.
I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local.
But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you!
I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit!
People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end
if it was a united community these people would be shopped to the police as someone knows who they are
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: ALL governments massage figures and this didn't start when the current government came into office so let's not all pretend to be so naive to think so just to score political points. The 'alright jack' attitude? You are all just as guilty. It's much easier to blame the council, police and government when you lack the community spirit to do anything yourselves to help out local elderly people in the community you reside in.[/p][/quote]You don't need to tell me that. I live in an area where most of the houses round about are owned by people who rent them to people who are only living there for 5 minutes & then they're gone & therfore they don't want to get involved in being local. But that said, you have no right to lecture me & tell me that I am to blame, how dare you! I have cleared up the needles in the street, the johnny bags in the car park out the back, stopped people being beaten in the streets, cut up fallen trees that block the road, don't blame it on me, I do my bit![/p][/quote]People like Shoong wants to keep the community divided they don't want to see a united community because things would change in such away that there greed would come to an end[/p][/quote]if it was a united community these people would be shopped to the police as someone knows who they are loosehead
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer
True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer.

Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation
Obviously the chances are you are talking porkie pies, but let's give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

My local newsagent has been stocking the Morning Star for about 10 years, not because she wants to but because she is obligated to by the chain who owns her shop and they only supply 5 copies a day.

They don't sell and are previous days editions are sent back for recycling.

Probably for toilet paper which is a fitting fate.

No sign of a Socialist revolution around here I'm afraid...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer[/p][/quote]True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer. Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation[/p][/quote]Obviously the chances are you are talking porkie pies, but let's give you the benefit of the doubt for now. My local newsagent has been stocking the Morning Star for about 10 years, not because she wants to but because she is obligated to by the chain who owns her shop and they only supply 5 copies a day. They don't sell and are previous days editions are sent back for recycling. Probably for toilet paper which is a fitting fate. No sign of a Socialist revolution around here I'm afraid... Shoong
  • Score: 2

6:21am Mon 27 Jan 14

huckit P says...

When I recently moved my new neighbour brought us tea and sandwiches as we moved in. I then went to my other neighbours and introduced myself. In the two years since I have been there we have all remained in touch and recommend (or reject) the various tradesmen we have to do work in our respective houses. We help each other whenever possible - one of them had a hip operation so we rallied together to do his garden etc. So community spirit does exist, although maybe not as much as it once did. Just looking at different areas makes it easy to spot where the "community spirit" is.
But... as other people have so rightly mentioned there is to much emphasis on "I" and not enough emphasis on "we'.
When I recently moved my new neighbour brought us tea and sandwiches as we moved in. I then went to my other neighbours and introduced myself. In the two years since I have been there we have all remained in touch and recommend (or reject) the various tradesmen we have to do work in our respective houses. We help each other whenever possible - one of them had a hip operation so we rallied together to do his garden etc. So community spirit does exist, although maybe not as much as it once did. Just looking at different areas makes it easy to spot where the "community spirit" is. But... as other people have so rightly mentioned there is to much emphasis on "I" and not enough emphasis on "we'. huckit P
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7:17am Mon 27 Jan 14

loosehead says...

huckit P wrote:
When I recently moved my new neighbour brought us tea and sandwiches as we moved in. I then went to my other neighbours and introduced myself. In the two years since I have been there we have all remained in touch and recommend (or reject) the various tradesmen we have to do work in our respective houses. We help each other whenever possible - one of them had a hip operation so we rallied together to do his garden etc. So community spirit does exist, although maybe not as much as it once did. Just looking at different areas makes it easy to spot where the "community spirit" is.
But... as other people have so rightly mentioned there is to much emphasis on "I" and not enough emphasis on "we'.
I lived in a bungalow in Tremona road my neighbour was on her own in her 80's I went & helped her with her garden but she was proud & got it covered with wood chip.
she was ripped off by so called workmen as she didn't want to ask for help with her gutters so some guys knocked her door offered to do it whilst she was out side talking to one the other one was robbing her.
I left there 6 years ago & this week she was going to a home but she asked my friends where that nice man has gone as he looked out for me she's now 89 & I wish her the best so yes in some places community spirit still exists
[quote][p][bold]huckit P[/bold] wrote: When I recently moved my new neighbour brought us tea and sandwiches as we moved in. I then went to my other neighbours and introduced myself. In the two years since I have been there we have all remained in touch and recommend (or reject) the various tradesmen we have to do work in our respective houses. We help each other whenever possible - one of them had a hip operation so we rallied together to do his garden etc. So community spirit does exist, although maybe not as much as it once did. Just looking at different areas makes it easy to spot where the "community spirit" is. But... as other people have so rightly mentioned there is to much emphasis on "I" and not enough emphasis on "we'.[/p][/quote]I lived in a bungalow in Tremona road my neighbour was on her own in her 80's I went & helped her with her garden but she was proud & got it covered with wood chip. she was ripped off by so called workmen as she didn't want to ask for help with her gutters so some guys knocked her door offered to do it whilst she was out side talking to one the other one was robbing her. I left there 6 years ago & this week she was going to a home but she asked my friends where that nice man has gone as he looked out for me she's now 89 & I wish her the best so yes in some places community spirit still exists loosehead
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8:46am Mon 27 Jan 14

Dai Rear says...

When police arrest they interview in the police station. If the arrested person says "no comment" to early questions there's no need to carry on. It's a "no comment" interview and has consequences if there's a trial. That's been the law a decade and more.
But the police do go on, and on , and on. 2 hours of no comment on a nicked 1991 Vauxhall Rustbucket de luxe worth 50 quid max. It's true.
Why?
The police station is warm, friendly (to police officers), safe, tea and canteen.
On the other hand "on patrol" is cold, wet, dangerous. Which would you prefer if you were a police officer? So, no, we're not going to get increased presence on the street. I'm sure the Police Commissioner will not read this. it's not at all headline grabbing but it's TRUE and it's why they aren't around for us.
When police arrest they interview in the police station. If the arrested person says "no comment" to early questions there's no need to carry on. It's a "no comment" interview and has consequences if there's a trial. That's been the law a decade and more. But the police do go on, and on , and on. 2 hours of no comment on a nicked 1991 Vauxhall Rustbucket de luxe worth 50 quid max. It's true. Why? The police station is warm, friendly (to police officers), safe, tea and canteen. On the other hand "on patrol" is cold, wet, dangerous. Which would you prefer if you were a police officer? So, no, we're not going to get increased presence on the street. I'm sure the Police Commissioner will not read this. it's not at all headline grabbing but it's TRUE and it's why they aren't around for us. Dai Rear
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9:10am Mon 27 Jan 14

Dai Rear says...

southy wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
southy wrote:
derek james wrote:
welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is
All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures
The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer
True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer.

Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation
hey Southy, didn't you know you could buy an annual subscription for Pravda and Izvestia,? Save you a fortune old chap. Just the papers for you now that Granma has thrown its lot in with the running lickspittle dogs of the capitalist lackeys.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: welcome to the real world , you can see just how real the government's supposed fall in crime figures is[/p][/quote]All government figures are misleading, they massage the figures[/p][/quote]The government maybe massaging Figures , but they are also raping the country with their policy s . Englands value s have long since disappeared , we now cater for every creed & gender , but to the COST of everything that once was England . If we do not get sensible deterrents , and re build soon , we will all suffer[/p][/quote]True they are they are making the poor poorer and the rich richer. Just done a shop run, for the first time ever (I never seen it in the shop before) The last copy of the "Morning Star" newspaper, could be things are starting to change locally, this paper prints news that other papers will not print, mind you its owned by the people and not by a company or big corporation[/p][/quote]hey Southy, didn't you know you could buy an annual subscription for Pravda and Izvestia,? Save you a fortune old chap. Just the papers for you now that Granma has thrown its lot in with the running lickspittle dogs of the capitalist lackeys. Dai Rear
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