Uni staff on strike again

Daily Echo: Uni staff on strike again Uni staff on strike again

UNIVERSITY staff will be on strike once again today in an ongoing row over pay.

The Unison and UCU unions are taking joint action and are looking to cause disruption to campuses across the county as part of an escalating programme of national action which has already seen four strikes.

Lectures at Southampton Solent university, the University of Southampton and the University of Winchester could be affected.

Union leaders say members’ resolve has been hardened following the publication of pay awards made to University vice-chancellors while teaching staff were offered 1 per cent.

Winchester Branch Chair, Mick Jardine, said: “We are fed up with management telling us they can’t afford to give their colleagues a pay rise when they reward themselves massive rises year after year.”

UCU Southampton president, Dr Eric Silverman, said: “Staff are angry they’ve had to endure real-terms pay cuts while those at the top continue to enjoy healthy rises. Research shows that our universities are performing at the very top on the global stage, yet our staff are being paid far less than those in other countries. It’s time for fair pay for all in our universities.”

A further strike is planned on Monday.

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8:47am Thu 6 Feb 14

apm1954 says...

get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.
get on with your jobs, or find a proper job. apm1954

9:29am Thu 6 Feb 14

no_username says...

apm1954 wrote:
get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.
What is your definition of a proper job? First, universities as a whole are an important contributor to the UK's economy. Second, without lecturers (who are often highly trained experts in their fields), there would be nobody to pass knowledge on to the next generation of researchers, doctors, engineers etc. I don't know what it is about their job that you don't class as being "proper".
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.[/p][/quote]What is your definition of a proper job? First, universities as a whole are an important contributor to the UK's economy. Second, without lecturers (who are often highly trained experts in their fields), there would be nobody to pass knowledge on to the next generation of researchers, doctors, engineers etc. I don't know what it is about their job that you don't class as being "proper". no_username

10:03am Thu 6 Feb 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub
UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub SPIKEISLANDTRADER

11:31am Thu 6 Feb 14

George4th says...

Publish ALL the hours worked, holiday entitlement, salaries, pension and benefits packages of ALL University staff, and then let the general public vote on it!

In my experience, University staff are a cosseted, overpaid group whose pay and conditions have been way in excess of their actual contribution to society, with few exceptions.
Publish ALL the hours worked, holiday entitlement, salaries, pension and benefits packages of ALL University staff, and then let the general public vote on it! In my experience, University staff are a cosseted, overpaid group whose pay and conditions have been way in excess of their actual contribution to society, with few exceptions. George4th

11:58am Thu 6 Feb 14

Anonymous14 says...

As a student at one of these universities I'd like to point out that 2 years ago students started paying almost 3 times more for Higher Education in England. Only earlier this year did a chancellor at one of these institutions get an absurdly high pay raise. So far this semester alone I have had lectures cancelled, which I've paid for, and other seminars disrupted due to picket lines walking through campus. Furthermore, this week half a cohort of students has been told they have not been able to be placed in schools (on an ITE) degree no more than one week before they are due in school; perhaps less time striking and more time actually helping students, and we may feel a little more sympathetic. Then again, going into the working world with a debt in excess of £34,000, it's still hard to empathise.
As a student at one of these universities I'd like to point out that 2 years ago students started paying almost 3 times more for Higher Education in England. Only earlier this year did a chancellor at one of these institutions get an absurdly high pay raise. So far this semester alone I have had lectures cancelled, which I've paid for, and other seminars disrupted due to picket lines walking through campus. Furthermore, this week half a cohort of students has been told they have not been able to be placed in schools (on an ITE) degree no more than one week before they are due in school; perhaps less time striking and more time actually helping students, and we may feel a little more sympathetic. Then again, going into the working world with a debt in excess of £34,000, it's still hard to empathise. Anonymous14

1:00pm Thu 6 Feb 14

apm1954 says...

no_username wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.
What is your definition of a proper job? First, universities as a whole are an important contributor to the UK's economy. Second, without lecturers (who are often highly trained experts in their fields), there would be nobody to pass knowledge on to the next generation of researchers, doctors, engineers etc. I don't know what it is about their job that you don't class as being "proper".
not the students i mean the staff.
[quote][p][bold]no_username[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.[/p][/quote]What is your definition of a proper job? First, universities as a whole are an important contributor to the UK's economy. Second, without lecturers (who are often highly trained experts in their fields), there would be nobody to pass knowledge on to the next generation of researchers, doctors, engineers etc. I don't know what it is about their job that you don't class as being "proper".[/p][/quote]not the students i mean the staff. apm1954

1:40pm Thu 6 Feb 14

micromark says...

apm1954 wrote:
get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.
Not everyone who works at a University is a lecturer. There are many cleaners, caterers and security staff who work really hard for a very low wage. Some have to hold down several jobs in order to make ends meet. I don't know what you class as a proper job, but don't you think that hard working people like this should receive a living wage?
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.[/p][/quote]Not everyone who works at a University is a lecturer. There are many cleaners, caterers and security staff who work really hard for a very low wage. Some have to hold down several jobs in order to make ends meet. I don't know what you class as a proper job, but don't you think that hard working people like this should receive a living wage? micromark

1:53pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Niel says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub
Technical staff, along with all other staff at the University of Southampton are 'graded' by job description, however only 'management' process grades benefit by being graded using the HAY system used by said university, unlike the HERA system which was actually written to address the issues of bias towards management in most pay grading systems specifically for the higher education sector.

This results in skilled trades people, Academics and supports staff's being paid less than the market rate, hence the high churn rate in some Universities, this is of little interest to the VC and the uni council, who see keeping staffing costs low and profit high, as most companies they have run in the past, as the single most important mark of success...
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub[/p][/quote]Technical staff, along with all other staff at the University of Southampton are 'graded' by job description, however only 'management' process grades benefit by being graded using the HAY system used by said university, unlike the HERA system which was actually written to address the issues of bias towards management in most pay grading systems specifically for the higher education sector. This results in skilled trades people, Academics and supports staff's being paid less than the market rate, hence the high churn rate in some Universities, this is of little interest to the VC and the uni council, who see keeping staffing costs low and profit high, as most companies they have run in the past, as the single most important mark of success... Niel

2:29pm Thu 6 Feb 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Niel wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub
Technical staff, along with all other staff at the University of Southampton are 'graded' by job description, however only 'management' process grades benefit by being graded using the HAY system used by said university, unlike the HERA system which was actually written to address the issues of bias towards management in most pay grading systems specifically for the higher education sector.

This results in skilled trades people, Academics and supports staff's being paid less than the market rate, hence the high churn rate in some Universities, this is of little interest to the VC and the uni council, who see keeping staffing costs low and profit high, as most companies they have run in the past, as the single most important mark of success...
Quite agree and this is WHY the staff need to strike , for a fairer balance of PROFITS , that the UNI generates , not just high rewards for some , while the real workers struggle , and use the same shops utilities etc of higher paid staff
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: UNIVERSITY s are ALL now a BUSINESS 1st and a place of education 2nd , the INVESTMENT by large company s is BILLIONS and technical staff employed earn very good salary s . Its the lecturer s and general staff that have been left behind in the wage and benefit s of such a affluent multi million pound industry . Soton UNI is a major employer but has to equal out the profit s it earns , not just make the divide between staff wages greater , as ALL STAFF , work for the same employer and play a part in the success , of a smooth efficient educational and business hub[/p][/quote]Technical staff, along with all other staff at the University of Southampton are 'graded' by job description, however only 'management' process grades benefit by being graded using the HAY system used by said university, unlike the HERA system which was actually written to address the issues of bias towards management in most pay grading systems specifically for the higher education sector. This results in skilled trades people, Academics and supports staff's being paid less than the market rate, hence the high churn rate in some Universities, this is of little interest to the VC and the uni council, who see keeping staffing costs low and profit high, as most companies they have run in the past, as the single most important mark of success...[/p][/quote]Quite agree and this is WHY the staff need to strike , for a fairer balance of PROFITS , that the UNI generates , not just high rewards for some , while the real workers struggle , and use the same shops utilities etc of higher paid staff SPIKEISLANDTRADER

3:27pm Thu 6 Feb 14

apm1954 says...

micromark wrote:
apm1954 wrote:
get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.
Not everyone who works at a University is a lecturer. There are many cleaners, caterers and security staff who work really hard for a very low wage. Some have to hold down several jobs in order to make ends meet. I don't know what you class as a proper job, but don't you think that hard working people like this should receive a living wage?
think yourself lucky you have a job .
[quote][p][bold]micromark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: get on with your jobs, or find a proper job.[/p][/quote]Not everyone who works at a University is a lecturer. There are many cleaners, caterers and security staff who work really hard for a very low wage. Some have to hold down several jobs in order to make ends meet. I don't know what you class as a proper job, but don't you think that hard working people like this should receive a living wage?[/p][/quote]think yourself lucky you have a job . apm1954

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