Defence firms sales go up after announcing hundreds of job losses

Daily Echo: Defence firms sales go up after announcing hundreds of job losses Defence firms sales go up after announcing hundreds of job losses

DEFENCE giant BAE Systems has announced an increase in sales, months after announcing the loss of hundreds of Hampshire jobs.

In its financial results for 2013, the firm's sales increased by two per cent to £18.2billion while share prices also increased by nine per cent.

Last year the company announced it was axing 940 jobs at its ship building yard in Portsmouth, with about a third of those staff members living in Southampton.

Shipbuilding in Hampshire will come to an end in the second half of this year after 800 years, after BAE reviewed its contract to build warships.

A small engineering team will remain in Hampshire to support the new Type 26 warships, which will be built in Glasgow.

In its results for the past year, BAE has announced a sales increase, and an increase of earnings before payments, tax and interest are deducted of three per cent, to £1.9billion.

Earnings per share increased by nine per cent to 42p, with £850million returned to shareholders over the course of 2013.

Over the course of the last year, the firm has also handed over military vessels to the Omani and Brazilian navies as well as renegotiating the Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carrier contract with the Ministry of Defence.

It also handed over the final Type 45 warship HMS Duncan to the Royal Navy and signed a new five-year ferry maintenance contract with Red Funnel and WightLink.

BAE's chief executive, Ian King, said: “Overall, the Group delivered a solid performance in 2013, against the background of reduced government spending and challenging market conditions.

“A proactive focus on costs and enhanced competitiveness protected our margins across the majority of the business and we secured further contract wins in the US, Saudi Arabia and internationally.

“We have started 2014 with good momentum with a settlement on Salam pricing, US budgets in place and a well-defined UK Maritime sector plan.

“Budget pressures in some of the Group's larger markets are expected to prevail but BAE Systems has a broad-based portfolio. Our strong order backlog and robust balance sheet provide a solid basis for growth over the medium term.”

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11:03am Thu 20 Feb 14

Vix1 says...

Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news? Vix1
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11:46am Thu 20 Feb 14

southy says...

Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
[quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40 southy
  • Score: -6

1:02pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
It's confusing because you bemoan the Job losses and at the same time say we shouldn't be waging war in foreign countries.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]It's confusing because you bemoan the Job losses and at the same time say we shouldn't be waging war in foreign countries. Shoong
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Thu 20 Feb 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht. loosehead
  • Score: 1

1:56pm Thu 20 Feb 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all southy
  • Score: -2

2:52pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Thu 20 Feb 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full southy
  • Score: 0

6:45pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Loveyourcity says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
Do you mean The Lancaster House Treaties of 2010?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]Do you mean The Lancaster House Treaties of 2010? Loveyourcity
  • Score: 2

10:20am Fri 21 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

11:03am Fri 21 Feb 14

southy says...

Loveyourcity wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
Do you mean The Lancaster House Treaties of 2010?
The Franco, British Council aka Lancaster house treaty that is an end result of the beginning, but if you read the Maastricht and the Lisbon Treaty you see the start of the beginnings.
but I glad to see that you are on the right track and not like Torchie who don't have a clue what is going on around him in the out side world, and all he can do is try and make fun out of other not realising him making fun at him self looking like every village as
[quote][p][bold]Loveyourcity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]Do you mean The Lancaster House Treaties of 2010?[/p][/quote]The Franco, British Council aka Lancaster house treaty that is an end result of the beginning, but if you read the Maastricht and the Lisbon Treaty you see the start of the beginnings. but I glad to see that you are on the right track and not like Torchie who don't have a clue what is going on around him in the out side world, and all he can do is try and make fun out of other not realising him making fun at him self looking like every village as southy
  • Score: 0

11:09am Fri 21 Feb 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.
torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books.
Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your.
Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.[/p][/quote]torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books. Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your. Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research southy
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.
torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books.
Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your.
Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research
But you immediately condemn anything that doesn't suit you as false right wing propaganda?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.[/p][/quote]torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books. Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your. Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research[/p][/quote]But you immediately condemn anything that doesn't suit you as false right wing propaganda? Torchie1
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Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Vix1 wrote:
Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?
Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on.
We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40
southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.
The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it.
Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all
Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.
Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told.
You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full
I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.
torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books.
Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your.
Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research
But you immediately condemn anything that doesn't suit you as false right wing propaganda?
you sure you know the meaning of such a word, because it clearly shows you do not know the meaning of conspiracy.
We are living in right wing world aka a Capitalist one and every moment of your life is bombarded with Right Wing Propaganda and you don't even realise it most people don't its normal life to them, its designed to keep people in there place and make them slaves to the system.
There was a Russian guy can't remember his name at the moment but in his book he wrote this objective "Think Internationally (Globally) and Act Locally". Your Capitalist aka Right Wing, are applying this every day on the people, read alternative news and you will start to see the pattern of what is not being reported
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote: Why is this story the opposite to what is being reported by the BBC news and the Portsmouth news?[/p][/quote]Its confusing because of the joint military budget between France and the UK that this government signed as part of the EU unification program as in the Maastricht Treaty that Thatcher signed and the Lisbon Treaty that Labour would not allow us to vote on. We are heading for the United States of Europe as in what the Bilderberg Group wants and what Churchill tried to do with France in 1939-40[/p][/quote]southy I think your wrong! I'm sure it was John Major who signed the treaty of Maastricht.[/p][/quote]The Maastricht treaty was done in stages loose, Thatcher signed the agreement, Major signed for it implementation to the UK after it was ratified, with the Lisbon treaty they are not even bothering to ratified they implementing it bit by bit and the unification is going ahead with out the people of Europe agreeing to it. Churchill was the first one back in 1939-40 when he tried to get the French government to agree to unification of arm forces.It a plan long in the making just got bigger that,s all[/p][/quote]Are you sure the secret plan didn't begin with alliances formed in the Middle Ages when European royal families inter-married. At least that can be verified, unlike your fantasy claims.[/p][/quote]Torchie that was alliances which is different, this is all about having 1 arm force in the EU, the one currency, the one government and there,s nothing fanciable about it apart for your mind in a dream world that you think excise or you are told. You and shoong need to do some very deep reading in the Reference part of the library where you can read the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty in full[/p][/quote]I wish I had the time on my hands to worry about every conspiracy theory on the internet.[/p][/quote]torchie what conspiracy do you even know what that word means, there no secret about what going on its out in the open all you got to do is read once in a while from books. Just because it some thing you don't like don't make it fantasy or a conspiracy that is just your mind not working right and is in that false dream world of your. Take a note from "Loveyourcity " at lest this person do read and do some real research[/p][/quote]But you immediately condemn anything that doesn't suit you as false right wing propaganda?[/p][/quote]you sure you know the meaning of such a word, because it clearly shows you do not know the meaning of conspiracy. We are living in right wing world aka a Capitalist one and every moment of your life is bombarded with Right Wing Propaganda and you don't even realise it most people don't its normal life to them, its designed to keep people in there place and make them slaves to the system. There was a Russian guy can't remember his name at the moment but in his book he wrote this objective "Think Internationally (Globally) and Act Locally". Your Capitalist aka Right Wing, are applying this every day on the people, read alternative news and you will start to see the pattern of what is not being reported southy
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