£1.2m Woolston revamp vision unveiled

Daily Echo: Artist's impression of how Victoria Road, Woolston, would look. Artist's impression of how Victoria Road, Woolston, would look.

WITH pedestrian friendly, one-way streets, a new play park and colourful street art, it represents one of the biggest changes to a city district centre in generations.

Plans worth £1.2m have been unveiled to breathe life into the tired looking centre of Woolston in Southampton, with work beginning by the end of the summer. A key feature of the proposals, developed through community feedback, is to introduce a one way system along the main shopping thoroughfare in Victoria Road.

And trees, plants and benches will be included to boost the environmental appeal of the high street.

Consultation with Woolston’s traders and community association has found favour for the one-way system because of the positive effect of closing one lane to traffic two years ago to allow for road works. North-bound traffic would be re-routed along Keswick Road, Woodley Road and Portsmouth Road.

Speed limits will be reduced to 20mph on these roads.

Traffic-calming measures will also be introduced in Obelisk Road and there will be better pedestrian links between Portsmouth Road and the bus station area.

When the Daily Echo spoke to residents the reaction was mixed, although most welcomed a facelift for the area. But Woolston Traders’ Association chairman Andy Grace said: “It is everything we have been asking for. “It is about time because we have not had any kind of spending down here since as long as I can remember.”

The project is being funded by Crest Nicholson, which is redeveloping the former Vosper Thornycroft site.

Councillor Jacqui Rayment, Cabinet member for environment and transport, said: “The new traffic calming measures are critical to improving the feeling of safety within the area and slowing traffic in such a pedestrian heavy area, used well by families and children.”

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10:44am Thu 27 Feb 14

jp1707 says...

Don't think there's anything more to say than - it's about bloody time!
Don't think there's anything more to say than - it's about bloody time! jp1707

11:21am Thu 27 Feb 14

reeferman says...

1.2 million wont go very far, some of the existing shop fronts are a bloody disgrace particularly the old Gusters ironmongers now looking like steptoes back yard, infact the rag & bone yard was probaly more pleasing to the eye.
1.2 million wont go very far, some of the existing shop fronts are a bloody disgrace particularly the old Gusters ironmongers now looking like steptoes back yard, infact the rag & bone yard was probaly more pleasing to the eye. reeferman

11:33am Thu 27 Feb 14

Mr E says...

People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid. Mr E

12:26pm Thu 27 Feb 14

charrlee says...

Mr E wrote:
People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid!

Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins.

I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun.

The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby).

The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they?

Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution.

Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you?

Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something.

Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.
[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.[/p][/quote]And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid! Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins. I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun. The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby). The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they? Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution. Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you? Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something. Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life. charrlee

1:34pm Thu 27 Feb 14

HoundVoice says...

reeferman wrote:
1.2 million wont go very far, some of the existing shop fronts are a bloody disgrace particularly the old Gusters ironmongers now looking like steptoes back yard, infact the rag & bone yard was probaly more pleasing to the eye.
Only missing Hercules the horse grazing out the front!

But sure the revamp will take care of eyesores like this....?
[quote][p][bold]reeferman[/bold] wrote: 1.2 million wont go very far, some of the existing shop fronts are a bloody disgrace particularly the old Gusters ironmongers now looking like steptoes back yard, infact the rag & bone yard was probaly more pleasing to the eye.[/p][/quote]Only missing Hercules the horse grazing out the front! But sure the revamp will take care of eyesores like this....? HoundVoice

1:49pm Thu 27 Feb 14

kiddynamite says...

charrlee wrote:
Mr E wrote:
People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid!

Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins.

I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun.

The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby).

The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they?

Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution.

Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you?

Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something.

Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.
Jeez this guys a cheerful one. Whats his beef? Apart from the entire world by the sound of it. Bore off with your moaning!
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.[/p][/quote]And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid! Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins. I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun. The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby). The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they? Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution. Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you? Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something. Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.[/p][/quote]Jeez this guys a cheerful one. Whats his beef? Apart from the entire world by the sound of it. Bore off with your moaning! kiddynamite

2:23pm Thu 27 Feb 14

whatwentwrongworld says...

''Artist's impression of how Victoria Road, Woolston, would look. ''

Hmm they seem to have missed a few things off of this picture, like rabid dogs, teenage mums with fags hanging out their mouths, people begging and oh yeah cyclists getting into punch ups with car drivers!!! ;p
''Artist's impression of how Victoria Road, Woolston, would look. '' Hmm they seem to have missed a few things off of this picture, like rabid dogs, teenage mums with fags hanging out their mouths, people begging and oh yeah cyclists getting into punch ups with car drivers!!! ;p whatwentwrongworld

2:26pm Thu 27 Feb 14

charrlee says...

kiddynamite wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mr E wrote:
People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid!

Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins.

I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun.

The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby).

The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they?

Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution.

Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you?

Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something.

Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.
Jeez this guys a cheerful one. Whats his beef? Apart from the entire world by the sound of it. Bore off with your moaning!
It's called being realistic, kiddydynamite. My generation, and previous generations, built a great world to live in. Young people are just so incompetent at everything, have messed up so much that was good, and try to cover it up with their health fanatic obsessions.

My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc.

What have the young given us beyond drugs, violence, underage drinking, bad behaviour in school, and overwhelmingly unjustified self belief?

This all about being satisfied (or dissatisfied) with half-hearted efforts, like the concept of the precinct.

Some of you wear trousers that do not fit, restrict your walking, and do up below the crotch! But the worst crime of all was making Jedward popular! For that you will NEVER be forgiven!

Yes, Kiddo, it's all a big windup based on irony. Choose to ignore!
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.[/p][/quote]And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid! Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins. I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun. The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby). The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they? Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution. Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you? Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something. Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.[/p][/quote]Jeez this guys a cheerful one. Whats his beef? Apart from the entire world by the sound of it. Bore off with your moaning![/p][/quote]It's called being realistic, kiddydynamite. My generation, and previous generations, built a great world to live in. Young people are just so incompetent at everything, have messed up so much that was good, and try to cover it up with their health fanatic obsessions. My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. What have the young given us beyond drugs, violence, underage drinking, bad behaviour in school, and overwhelmingly unjustified self belief? This all about being satisfied (or dissatisfied) with half-hearted efforts, like the concept of the precinct. Some of you wear trousers that do not fit, restrict your walking, and do up below the crotch! But the worst crime of all was making Jedward popular! For that you will NEVER be forgiven! Yes, Kiddo, it's all a big windup based on irony. Choose to ignore! charrlee

2:28pm Thu 27 Feb 14

charrlee says...

Blame Stewart Lee.
Blame Stewart Lee. charrlee

3:04pm Thu 27 Feb 14

City Final says...

charrlee wrote:
Mr E wrote:
People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid!

Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins.

I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun.

The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby).

The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they?

Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution.

Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you?

Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something.

Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.
@Charrlee Have you even read it? It's NOT going to be a precinct.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.[/p][/quote]And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid! Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins. I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun. The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby). The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they? Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution. Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you? Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something. Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.[/p][/quote]@Charrlee Have you even read it? It's NOT going to be a precinct. City Final

3:10pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Safehands says...

Looks great, will be a great benefit for the charity shops, take-aways and junk shops that make up most of the businesses there. The artists impression also looks like some of the dated buildings are being replaced, as it looks like some of the shops are single storey buildings.

I hope there's still room for the p*ss- heads to smoke outside the social club while they sp*nk all their benefits on beer.
Looks great, will be a great benefit for the charity shops, take-aways and junk shops that make up most of the businesses there. The artists impression also looks like some of the dated buildings are being replaced, as it looks like some of the shops are single storey buildings. I hope there's still room for the p*ss- heads to smoke outside the social club while they sp*nk all their benefits on beer. Safehands

4:05pm Thu 27 Feb 14

charrlee says...

City Final wrote:
charrlee wrote:
Mr E wrote:
People of Woolston.


Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.
And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid!

Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins.

I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun.

The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby).

The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they?

Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution.

Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you?

Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something.

Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.
@Charrlee Have you even read it? It's NOT going to be a precinct.
If you feel that is significant, then you have missed the point of my humble comment.

Look at some of the videos of past Southampton on You Tube. Have a look at those calendars that show a scene from Southampton in the past, and how it looks now. Whereas older buildings have character (otherwise you wouldn't have listed buildings, English Heritage, etc), the new ones are just blank, bland and impersonal.

I'm not against change - I'd rather listen to music downloaded from iTunes than 78's on a gramophone, for instance. But the change needs to be for the better, not worse. I grew up in Bitterne, and I have not met a single soul who thinks the new village is better than the old.

Enjoy the artist's impression of New Woolston - that's the only place you'll ever see it look like that.
[quote][p][bold]City Final[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: People of Woolston. Look at what they have done to the new junction on the other side of the Itchen Bridge and be afraid.[/p][/quote]And look at what they did to Bitterne, Portswood, and our very own city center and be afraid! Bitterne and Above Bar are probably the best two examples of the hideous dreariness that wall-to-wall paving stones bring. With no road going through, creating wind currents, litter and mess builds up very quickly. The mini trees and flower bed things are poorly maintained and look shabby. Seating areas are just large, open bins. I think the old concept of village, town and city life was the feeling of "busyness" : people dashing about, getting off buses and bikes, clambering out of cars and taxis, nipping back and forth across the road, in and out of the shops. It was organised chaos, exciting, and good fun. The artist's impression of a proposed precinct always looks so stunning, but you check back. Look at the pictures, then look at the reality : one heck of a difference. The precinct is just a sloppy mess of people wandering about randomly past dodgy "barrow boys" with even dodgier trash for sale, people sat on the ground leaning against shop walls, disgarded burgers, plastic bottles, food wrappers and all manner of litter, stained and spattered paving stones, and heavily graffitied phone booths, hoardings and seating areas (where graffiti has been removed so many times, the areas, in those cases, just look grubby). The obsession with ozone depletion, petrol fumes, frequent "rehydration", calories, jogging, cholesterol, anti-smoking, anti-drinking, cycling and goodness knows what other bandwagon fad is responsible for many of the changes that have been made. But when you look at these precincts, they don't look very healthy places to be, do they? Face facts. The North Pole is melting and sea levels are rising. Over 7000 homes have been destroyed by floods and sewage with the changes in our weather systems. Food tastes horrible because they have taken all the sugar and salt out. Anti biotics are fast becoming ineffective against the super bugs. Your jogging, non-smoking, 16 glasses of water a day, cycling, lettuce sandwich munching is not going to reverse the damage already done. Remember, the trouble began with the Industrial Revolution. Probably best to accept the enevitable, and sit down with a bag of chips and a beer and watch a good movie. Forget the new Woolston precinct - it's just a dream for a future fairytale world that is just not going to happen. Don't believe me? Well you wouldn't, would you? Many of todays people remind me of the unfortunate cases who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, who believe they can cure themselves by running 20 miles a day, or by consuming vast quantities of Ginseng, or something. Accept the enevitable, and bring some joy back to this life.[/p][/quote]@Charrlee Have you even read it? It's NOT going to be a precinct.[/p][/quote]If you feel that is significant, then you have missed the point of my humble comment. Look at some of the videos of past Southampton on You Tube. Have a look at those calendars that show a scene from Southampton in the past, and how it looks now. Whereas older buildings have character (otherwise you wouldn't have listed buildings, English Heritage, etc), the new ones are just blank, bland and impersonal. I'm not against change - I'd rather listen to music downloaded from iTunes than 78's on a gramophone, for instance. But the change needs to be for the better, not worse. I grew up in Bitterne, and I have not met a single soul who thinks the new village is better than the old. Enjoy the artist's impression of New Woolston - that's the only place you'll ever see it look like that. charrlee

5:21pm Thu 27 Feb 14

plastic_fantastic says...

Polishing a turd springs to mind, same as what they are trying to achieve down Weston...

Painting over the cracks or crack heads. Waste of money in my opinion
Polishing a turd springs to mind, same as what they are trying to achieve down Weston... Painting over the cracks or crack heads. Waste of money in my opinion plastic_fantastic

5:53pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

@charrlee, it may well all be irony, and thank you for giving me a laugh.
But you are 100% right about the trousers.
@charrlee, it may well all be irony, and thank you for giving me a laugh. But you are 100% right about the trousers. WalkingOnAWire

9:16pm Thu 27 Feb 14

loosehead says...

so Woolston residents what do you think of it?
Shop owners what are your thoughts is this a good thing or not?
so Woolston residents what do you think of it? Shop owners what are your thoughts is this a good thing or not? loosehead

10:01pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Bally_Hoo says...

Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here...

"My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. "

Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars?

Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old.

As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young!

But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say?

Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere.

So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings.

As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice.
Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here... "My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. " Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars? Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old. As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young! But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say? Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere. So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings. As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice. Bally_Hoo

11:58pm Thu 27 Feb 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

Bally_Hoo wrote:
Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here...

"My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. "

Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars?

Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old.

As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young!

But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say?

Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere.

So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings.

As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice.
I think you'll find it was a joke, a parody, irony - call it what you will. The fact that you've taken it at face value says far more about you than anything else.

Those trousers are still wrong though, on so many levels.
[quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here... "My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. " Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars? Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old. As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young! But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say? Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere. So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings. As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find it was a joke, a parody, irony - call it what you will. The fact that you've taken it at face value says far more about you than anything else. Those trousers are still wrong though, on so many levels. WalkingOnAWire

2:07am Fri 28 Feb 14

After8UK says...

Some people love a jolly good moan don't they! If we all pointed out what was wrong with everything, nothing would ever change.
Some people love a jolly good moan don't they! If we all pointed out what was wrong with everything, nothing would ever change. After8UK

4:08am Fri 28 Feb 14

charrlee says...

Bally_Hoo wrote:
Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here...

"My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. "

Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars?

Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old.

As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young!

But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say?

Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere.

So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings.

As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice.
Even though it was pretty obvious I was doing a "Victor Meldrew", you must have thought I was right otherwise you wouldn't have resorted to insults having run out of counter-arguments.
[quote][p][bold]Bally_Hoo[/bold] wrote: Sorry but what complete and utter tosh people put on here... "My generation and previous fought two world wars to preserve freedom, and invented just about everything : car, aeroplane, radio, telephone, TV, computer, etc. " Errm did you really fight in one or other of the last two world wars? Did your generation also invent the car (invented 1886) or the telephone (invented 1876)? God you must be really old. As for the young of today, of course they haven't invented anything yet, they're still too young! But one day maybe one of them will cure cancer, or reverse the climate change changed caused by previous generations, or better still find a cure for miserable old gits who fail too see the good in anyone, who can say? Some young people are uncaring mindless thugs, but some are thoughtful hard-working and sincere. So for god sake please spare us your sanctimonious ravings. As for Woolston, let's hope the council get it right for once! It really needs a boost, some decent shops would be nice.[/p][/quote]Even though it was pretty obvious I was doing a "Victor Meldrew", you must have thought I was right otherwise you wouldn't have resorted to insults having run out of counter-arguments. charrlee

4:19am Fri 28 Feb 14

charrlee says...

After8UK wrote:
Some people love a jolly good moan don't they! If we all pointed out what was wrong with everything, nothing would ever change.
So you are pleased with the provision for cyclists on our roads, happy with the floods, content that we are £600 billion in debt, not over-concerned about teenage violence, drug and alcohol abuse, see internet paedophiles as naughty rascals, see the bombarding of the Millbrook buses with rocks as high spirits, sing along with a CD when stuck in Southampton's two-hour traffic jams, etc., etc., etc,

You have no standards, After8UK.
[quote][p][bold]After8UK[/bold] wrote: Some people love a jolly good moan don't they! If we all pointed out what was wrong with everything, nothing would ever change.[/p][/quote]So you are pleased with the provision for cyclists on our roads, happy with the floods, content that we are £600 billion in debt, not over-concerned about teenage violence, drug and alcohol abuse, see internet paedophiles as naughty rascals, see the bombarding of the Millbrook buses with rocks as high spirits, sing along with a CD when stuck in Southampton's two-hour traffic jams, etc., etc., etc, You have no standards, After8UK. charrlee

8:13am Fri 28 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

How about using the money to help fund small businesses to open up the empty shops, they could subsidise their rent for a year on the understanding that they make the empty shops look presentable.
No point in pretty pavements which will fall to bits in 12 months anyway if all the shops are empty.
How about using the money to help fund small businesses to open up the empty shops, they could subsidise their rent for a year on the understanding that they make the empty shops look presentable. No point in pretty pavements which will fall to bits in 12 months anyway if all the shops are empty. bigfella777

11:16am Fri 28 Feb 14

charrlee says...

bigfella777 wrote:
How about using the money to help fund small businesses to open up the empty shops, they could subsidise their rent for a year on the understanding that they make the empty shops look presentable.
No point in pretty pavements which will fall to bits in 12 months anyway if all the shops are empty.
Absolutely, bigfella, absolutely. A very good idea.

I feel Woolston lost some of its character when the floating bridge went, Thorny's closed, and the village was dwarfed by "the bridge". But times change, and the Itchen bridge has certainly been an asset.

With the building of even more flats down there, you'd think there would be good business for a Tesco, and some clothes, homeware, and hardware shops. Also a couple of bakeries and one or two cafes and coffee shops. A pub with live music might be good (a new "London", perhaps? Why was that closed? I think the pub that used to host live music was/is opposite Parkers). Banks, post office, even a bookshop, oh - and an over-priced "tat" shop - must have one of those! I know that some of that is already there, but it all needs enhancing.

But no wall-to-wall pavementing that makes you feel so hot in summer, with its attendant litter, slop, and rowdy children. Ah! Now a park would be good for families and children.

You must keep the crossroad. It ain't Woolston without the crossroad.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: How about using the money to help fund small businesses to open up the empty shops, they could subsidise their rent for a year on the understanding that they make the empty shops look presentable. No point in pretty pavements which will fall to bits in 12 months anyway if all the shops are empty.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, bigfella, absolutely. A very good idea. I feel Woolston lost some of its character when the floating bridge went, Thorny's closed, and the village was dwarfed by "the bridge". But times change, and the Itchen bridge has certainly been an asset. With the building of even more flats down there, you'd think there would be good business for a Tesco, and some clothes, homeware, and hardware shops. Also a couple of bakeries and one or two cafes and coffee shops. A pub with live music might be good (a new "London", perhaps? Why was that closed? I think the pub that used to host live music was/is opposite Parkers). Banks, post office, even a bookshop, oh - and an over-priced "tat" shop - must have one of those! I know that some of that is already there, but it all needs enhancing. But no wall-to-wall pavementing that makes you feel so hot in summer, with its attendant litter, slop, and rowdy children. Ah! Now a park would be good for families and children. You must keep the crossroad. It ain't Woolston without the crossroad. charrlee

11:19am Fri 28 Feb 14

charrlee says...

Then perhaps Bitterne could be re-thought?
Then perhaps Bitterne could be re-thought? charrlee

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