No trains at all at Southampton Central on Easter weekend as £20m improvements take place

Daily Echo: Months of chaos for rail passengers Months of chaos for rail passengers

THOUSANDS of train passengers have seen their travel plans thrown into chaos by two months of weekend line closures at Southampton Central railway station.

Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project.

But business leaders and civic chiefs have hit out at the closures, which will see every service going through Southampton Central cancelled on weekends from March 16 to May 4.

They have asked for a rethink, saying they are concerned about the impact on businesses in the city, fans going to and from Saints matches and events taking place in Southampton.

The work will see 30 new sets of points added between Southampton Central and Redbridge stations, which the Network Rail and South West Trains Alliance says will “improve the reliability of trains.”

They say there has been a huge increase in the number of people using trains at the station over the past ten years, and with more than six million using it every year that is increasing the strain on infrastructure.

The line closures will start this weekend, with the line between Southampton Central and Brockenhurst closed on Saturday (Mar 8) and Sunday (Mar 9).

That line will also be closed the following Saturday, March 15, and on every weekend day from March 16 to May 4 there will be no lines running in and out of Southampton Central.

Network Rail and South West Trains Alliance's infrastructure director, Jim Morgan, said; "This is a vital programme of investment to improve the reliability of train services for Southampton and the surrounding region.

“We recognise that this is not ideal and we are sorry for the inevitable disruption that will be caused to our passengers. We have sought to keep disruption to a minimum whilst we undertake this essential work.”

There are concerns that the closures could have an impact on businesses in the city, while people travelling by train to events including the Sainsbury's Sport Relief Mile, Easter Fair and St George's Day parade will all face disruption.

And the closures will also affect fans travelling to and from Saints matches both home and away in all but the team's final game, at home to Manchester United.

City council leader Simon Letts said: “It is disappointing that there will be so much disruption to the travelling public over such a prolonged period of time.

“I urge Network Rail and South West Trains to have a rethink to see if the job can be done quicker and to consider operating a full service on Saints match days as the season comes to a climax.”

Chief executive of Business South, Sally Lynskey, said: “While we do appreciate this work is very necessary and it will eventually benefit visitors arriving by rail to the city, it does seem unfortunate that there needs to be so many closures over such a long period of time.

"City retailers have been contending with the bad weather since the start of the year so we hope this disruption to rail services won't have a detrimental effect on their takings in the coming weeks."

Claire Gilbert from the University of Southampton's Student Union, is helping to organise the Sport Relief Mile, said: “I think it may have an impact on people getting to the race, it may mean people have to take extra time to get to their places on time.”

And William Cole, who runs the Easter Fair which will take place in The Common from April 17 to 27, said: “If it's necessary then I suppose they have to do it, but no time is a good time for businesses.

“But personally I would rather the closures weren't in place when the fair was here.”

Rail travel watchdog Passenger Focus, believe that the work was necessary but it is not a good time for commuters.

Mike Hewitson, Passenger Focus's head of policy, said: “There is never a 'good time' to do engineering work because someone will always lose out. However, most passengers understand that it is necessary to ensure the railway continues to be safe and reliable.”

Panel: How the closures will affect rail travellers Starting on Saturday, anyone using the route between Southampton Central and Brockenhurst will have to take a rail-replacement bus service on weekends until May 4.

Fast buses will run between Airport Parkway and Bournemouth, while buses will also run on local journeys between Airport Parkway, Brockenhurst, Eastleigh and Southampton Central.

The work will not affect the line between Southampton Central and London Waterloo until March 16, when services will end at Southampton Airport Parkway instead.

A rail replacement bus service will then transport passengers to Southampton Central and up to Bournemouth.

Buses will also replace train services between Central and St Denys and Woolston.

Services to Portsmouth will start and terminate at St Denys during the work.

The South West Trains service between Salisbury and Romsey via Southampton Central and Eastleigh while only run between Salisbury and Romsey.

First Great Western services will call at Eastleigh and Chandler's Ford instead of Southampton Central.

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6:19am Wed 5 Mar 14

nervousbumskin420 says...

typical! not even the offer of half price tickets or something, for the people its going to affect!
typical! not even the offer of half price tickets or something, for the people its going to affect! nervousbumskin420
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7:45am Wed 5 Mar 14

funchal says...

Glad I never use the trains but I really feel sorry for people that rely on this form of transport to get to and from work.. Usual workmen I expect with half of them on the phone and areas where you can't see a workman on site.
Glad I never use the trains but I really feel sorry for people that rely on this form of transport to get to and from work.. Usual workmen I expect with half of them on the phone and areas where you can't see a workman on site. funchal
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7:56am Wed 5 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

This may be the time to Mount Pleasant crossing to excess.
Every time I go over that darn crossing I end up waiting an eternity while four or five trains cross with a 10 ten minute gap between each one.
Happy days :)
This may be the time to Mount Pleasant crossing to excess. Every time I go over that darn crossing I end up waiting an eternity while four or five trains cross with a 10 ten minute gap between each one. Happy days :) SOULJACKER
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8:03am Wed 5 Mar 14

mikeyt says...

And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station!
And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station! mikeyt
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8:49am Wed 5 Mar 14

nothingchanges says...

I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age. nothingchanges
  • Score: 15

9:13am Wed 5 Mar 14

Independent Thought says...

Well said 'nothing changes' and so true. Moan, moan and for extra good measure more moan!!!
Well said 'nothing changes' and so true. Moan, moan and for extra good measure more moan!!! Independent Thought
  • Score: 0

9:27am Wed 5 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise. OSPREYSAINT
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9:29am Wed 5 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

nervousbumskin420 wrote:
typical! not even the offer of half price tickets or something, for the people its going to affect!
Actually, the winter weekend saver deal has been extended. £10 day returns on the south west network. Check out their website. £10 return to London is not a bad shout!
[quote][p][bold]nervousbumskin420[/bold] wrote: typical! not even the offer of half price tickets or something, for the people its going to affect![/p][/quote]Actually, the winter weekend saver deal has been extended. £10 day returns on the south west network. Check out their website. £10 return to London is not a bad shout! camerajuan
  • Score: 6

9:36am Wed 5 Mar 14

ToastyTea says...

What an absolute pi$$ take, they should charge people only to whichever station they then have to get the bus from to get to Soton. When the ticket prices are so high you shouldn't expect this sort of inconvenience. Why don't they spend some money doing up Soton station while they are at it, it still looks run down, tatty and from the 80's.
What an absolute pi$$ take, they should charge people only to whichever station they then have to get the bus from to get to Soton. When the ticket prices are so high you shouldn't expect this sort of inconvenience. Why don't they spend some money doing up Soton station while they are at it, it still looks run down, tatty and from the 80's. ToastyTea
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10:32am Wed 5 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

mikeyt wrote:
And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station!
TW&T
[quote][p][bold]mikeyt[/bold] wrote: And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station![/p][/quote]TW&T andysaints007
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10:34am Wed 5 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
Are you sure about your boring correction?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.[/p][/quote]Are you sure about your boring correction? andysaints007
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10:57am Wed 5 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
Are you sure about your boring correction?
What do you think?
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.[/p][/quote]Are you sure about your boring correction?[/p][/quote]What do you think? OSPREYSAINT
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10:58am Wed 5 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

andysaints007 wrote:
mikeyt wrote:
And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station!
TW&T
Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Site rules too complicated for you to understand?
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeyt[/bold] wrote: And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station![/p][/quote]TW&T[/p][/quote]Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Site rules too complicated for you to understand? OSPREYSAINT
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11:02am Wed 5 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I said in the 1960's that Southampton was the Whingeing Capital of the UK, some things haven't changed much, if anything it has got worse since the Internet revolution. It's a free Country, lucky to be able to say what you want, irrespective of quality of expression. Others are not so fortunate.
[quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I said in the 1960's that Southampton was the Whingeing Capital of the UK, some things haven't changed much, if anything it has got worse since the Internet revolution. It's a free Country, lucky to be able to say what you want, irrespective of quality of expression. Others are not so fortunate. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:36am Wed 5 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

mikeyt wrote:
And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station!
I suppose the question that should be put to the rail company is how many buses will be available.
Unless there are several shuttle buses on stand by, to ferry the supporters, plus all other passengers, to the Central, it could become a major problem.
As a damage limitation exercise, they could possibly run separate shuttles to drop supporters at the stadium. But they will still need several buses.
And how long for the bus to make a round trip, from Eastleigh, on a Match day, to pick up the next batch of travellers?
Looks like there will be a lot of cars in town, those days.
[quote][p][bold]mikeyt[/bold] wrote: And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station![/p][/quote]I suppose the question that should be put to the rail company is how many buses will be available. Unless there are several shuttle buses on stand by, to ferry the supporters, plus all other passengers, to the Central, it could become a major problem. As a damage limitation exercise, they could possibly run separate shuttles to drop supporters at the stadium. But they will still need several buses. And how long for the bus to make a round trip, from Eastleigh, on a Match day, to pick up the next batch of travellers? Looks like there will be a lot of cars in town, those days. Costa Baz
  • Score: -2

12:44pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Donald2000 says...

nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.
[quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging. Donald2000
  • Score: -1

1:06pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Andy Locks Heath says...

Donald2000 wrote:
nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.
This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.[/p][/quote]This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem. Andy Locks Heath
  • Score: 1

2:25pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Donald2000 says...

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.
This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.
Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning.

My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.[/p][/quote]This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.[/p][/quote]Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it. Donald2000
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5:40pm Wed 5 Mar 14

The Wickham Man says...

Donald2000 wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.
This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.
Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning.

My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it.
Yopur attitude went with privatisation Donald, and quite rightly so, and you illustrate why privatisation was necessary. THe passenger is and should be first and foremost. Your casual indifferent attitude reminds everyone of the take it or leave it attitude that made train travel far more unpleasant and risky that it needed to be. I don't "whinge" because I always offer up alternatives - and you need to undertand how recognise that before you type. . Your lack of concern for the travelling public should show you you that while you may have worked for "transport concerns" you clearly never held any kind of position of seniority. WOuld you put up with a shop or a business that offered terrible service? Then what makes you think the travelling public should have to?
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.[/p][/quote]This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.[/p][/quote]Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it.[/p][/quote]Yopur attitude went with privatisation Donald, and quite rightly so, and you illustrate why privatisation was necessary. THe passenger is and should be first and foremost. Your casual indifferent attitude reminds everyone of the take it or leave it attitude that made train travel far more unpleasant and risky that it needed to be. I don't "whinge" because I always offer up alternatives - and you need to undertand how recognise that before you type. . Your lack of concern for the travelling public should show you you that while you may have worked for "transport concerns" you clearly never held any kind of position of seniority. WOuld you put up with a shop or a business that offered terrible service? Then what makes you think the travelling public should have to? The Wickham Man
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6:29pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Mary80 says...

The thing is they need to do these things what are they meant to do? Repairs and upgrades are needed
The thing is they need to do these things what are they meant to do? Repairs and upgrades are needed Mary80
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7:27pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Donald2000 says...

@ The Wickham Man

You were clearly never in any position of authority.

Whereas I suppose you were Queen of England. High minded twerp. It's people like you that reflect the worst aspects of this society - Little Englanders all thinking that they can do better. Well if you can then I suggest you go to Russia and have a word with Putin. A man of your talents should surely be able to obviate world war 3.
@ The Wickham Man You were clearly never in any position of authority. Whereas I suppose you were Queen of England. High minded twerp. It's people like you that reflect the worst aspects of this society - Little Englanders all thinking that they can do better. Well if you can then I suggest you go to Russia and have a word with Putin. A man of your talents should surely be able to obviate world war 3. Donald2000
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11:23pm Wed 5 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
nothingchanges wrote:
I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak?

And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!!

Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.
I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.
This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.
Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning.

My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it.
Yopur attitude went with privatisation Donald, and quite rightly so, and you illustrate why privatisation was necessary. THe passenger is and should be first and foremost. Your casual indifferent attitude reminds everyone of the take it or leave it attitude that made train travel far more unpleasant and risky that it needed to be. I don't "whinge" because I always offer up alternatives - and you need to undertand how recognise that before you type. . Your lack of concern for the travelling public should show you you that while you may have worked for "transport concerns" you clearly never held any kind of position of seniority. WOuld you put up with a shop or a business that offered terrible service? Then what makes you think the travelling public should have to?
Always thinking about today.... what about tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingchanges[/bold] wrote: I see Southampton is still a city of moaners, damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're investing £20 million in the railways around the city and everyone is up in arms at the 'chaos' this will bring? I really doubt it will. Airport Parkway, as Mikey says, is hardly far from the centre it just means the lazy people will have to put a tiny bit of effort in. And can you imagine the moaning if the work wasn't done and the points failed and trains were cancelled in the evening peak? And well done Echo on another quality article... "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses"!!! Just deal with it, it's been well publicised so work out the alternative and get on with it. It's nice to see investment is happening in this day and age.[/p][/quote]I have always thought that there was quite a reasonable bus service there already - the Velvet A runs down from West End and Hedge End to Airport Parkway and there is an interchange with the 8/8A at Barbe Baker Avenue so that people can get through to Bitterne/City from there. In addition there is a regular U1A service to the University, Portswood and City. There are Number 2 bus Bluestar from Eastleigh to Swaythling and the City. Also there will be railway bus services. The short journey from Central to Airport will be more than adequately covered. So my advice would be to stop whinging.[/p][/quote]This is not just about people who would normally get on at Southampton Central. Imagine you are one of the thousands of passengers - many elderly and many with small children - travelling from the Weymouth direction, possibly with luggage, who will be forced to detrain at Brockenhurst and endure a bus ride on congested roads (with the bus calling in at all the intemediate stations on the way) to be dropped at Southampton Airport where a revised timetable will see fast trains cancelled in favour of a crowded semi-shuttle service. If you expect someone undertaking a long journey to endure an additional cross town journey with baggage on local urban services then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. For some bizarre reason some people on this thread seem to think travel is some kind of test of manhood. That says more about them than about whether or not this is an avoidable problem.[/p][/quote]Then it's a good job you are not in transport planning. My friend, I have worked for more transport concerns than you have had hot dinners. We will manage. I use transport all the time and have been subjected to more horrible delays than this will cause. Stop being so precious, holier than thou and clever. Every one a coconut. You are one of the whingers to whom I refer and you don't even realise it.[/p][/quote]Yopur attitude went with privatisation Donald, and quite rightly so, and you illustrate why privatisation was necessary. THe passenger is and should be first and foremost. Your casual indifferent attitude reminds everyone of the take it or leave it attitude that made train travel far more unpleasant and risky that it needed to be. I don't "whinge" because I always offer up alternatives - and you need to undertand how recognise that before you type. . Your lack of concern for the travelling public should show you you that while you may have worked for "transport concerns" you clearly never held any kind of position of seniority. WOuld you put up with a shop or a business that offered terrible service? Then what makes you think the travelling public should have to?[/p][/quote]Always thinking about today.... what about tomorrow? S!monOn
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9:46am Thu 6 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
mikeyt wrote:
And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station!
TW&T
Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Site rules too complicated for you to understand?
Mind your own business you boring individual
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeyt[/bold] wrote: And Southampton Airport Parkway is sooooooooo far away! Poor Saints fans who can't manage to get to Airport Parkway or Eastleigh station![/p][/quote]TW&T[/p][/quote]Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. Site rules too complicated for you to understand?[/p][/quote]Mind your own business you boring individual andysaints007
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9:46am Thu 6 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
Are you sure about your boring correction?
What do you think?
I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.[/p][/quote]Are you sure about your boring correction?[/p][/quote]What do you think?[/p][/quote]I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce andysaints007
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10:52am Thu 6 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
Are you sure about your boring correction?
What do you think?
I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce
You certainly don't think, I rest my case.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.[/p][/quote]Are you sure about your boring correction?[/p][/quote]What do you think?[/p][/quote]I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce[/p][/quote]You certainly don't think, I rest my case. OSPREYSAINT
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9:30am Fri 7 Mar 14

andysaints007 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andysaints007 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains".
Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week.
There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.
Are you sure about your boring correction?
What do you think?
I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce
You certainly don't think, I rest my case.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz could you possibly be any more boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2nd paragraph needs correcting i.e. "Lines running through the station will be cancelled and replaced by buses as part of a £20million improvement project". First word should read "Trains". Major rail works have always been carried out on Bank Holiday week-ends, usually so that the weekly commuters aren't inconvenienced by work being done during the working week. There are moves afoot to move the whole of the Signalling controls to a major centre at Basingstoke and one of the consequences is the need for replacement of the points and their associated equipment to facilitate the remote control. Short term pain for major gain is the object of the exercise.[/p][/quote]Are you sure about your boring correction?[/p][/quote]What do you think?[/p][/quote]I don't think - I KNOW you are wrong you dunce[/p][/quote]You certainly don't think, I rest my case.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz could you possibly be any more boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz andysaints007
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