Southampton is 'the Heathrow of cruise ships'

Southampton has proved itself to be the cruise capital of the UK.

Southampton has proved itself to be the cruise capital of the UK.

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Shipping & Heritage Reporter

SOUTHAMPTON has been dubbed the “Heathrow of cruising”

because of the huge number of people now using the port to begin an overseas voyage.

Last year one million passengers started cruises from the UK and of these more than 80 per cent (819,062) started their holiday from the city.

Results of a poll carried out by the Internet’s largest cruising website, Cruise Critic, which has more than one million members, indicate that next year is the most anticipated time for Southampton with the arrival of three major superships, Britannia, Anthem of the Seas, and Royal Princess in the port.

Adam Coulter, UK editor of Cruise Critic said: “Having these three key ships based out of Southampton is very relevant to at least one million people, and shows an important investment into the British cruise industry.

“Southampton was named ‘Best UK Departure Port’ in the Cruise Critic Editors’ Picks Awards in 2013, and by offering excellent choice it really is becoming the ‘Heathrow of cruising’.”

P&O Cruises’ Britannia will be the biggest vessel in the company’s fleet, designed specifically for the British market, she will enter service in Southampton early next year and accommodate up to more than 3,600 passengers.

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Highlights of Royal Caribbean’s innovative Anthem of the Seas include a skydiving simulator and North Star, which is modelled on the London Eye and provides 360 degree views from above the sea.

Anthem of the Seas launches in spring 2015, with capacity for 4,180 passengers.

Officially named in Southampton by the Duchess of Cambridge last year, Princess Cruises’ stunning vessel, Royal Princess is returning to the port next year.

Royal Princess will make a brief, one off, appearance in Southampton as a port of call on May 8 this year and then reposition in the city in May 2015.

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11:08am Tue 15 Apr 14

Nutstrangler says...

"Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it.
"Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it. Nutstrangler
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11:55am Tue 15 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

All we need to do now is to sort the traffic problems out. It's the Piccadily Circus of the South when the boats come in.
All we need to do now is to sort the traffic problems out. It's the Piccadily Circus of the South when the boats come in. OSPREYSAINT
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1:22pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Nutstrangler wrote:
"Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it.
Although technically correct!
[quote][p][bold]Nutstrangler[/bold] wrote: "Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it.[/p][/quote]Although technically correct! Charlie Bucket
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1:50pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Nutstrangler says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
Nutstrangler wrote:
"Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it.
Although technically correct!
Don't think so...either "Up to 3,600" or "More than 3,600"...can't be both.
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nutstrangler[/bold] wrote: "Up to more than 3,600 passengers".....A strange way of putting it.[/p][/quote]Although technically correct![/p][/quote]Don't think so...either "Up to 3,600" or "More than 3,600"...can't be both. Nutstrangler
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3:25pm Tue 15 Apr 14

forest hump says...

How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar.
How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar. forest hump
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4:41pm Tue 15 Apr 14

geoff51 says...

forest hump wrote:
How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar.
Probably because the cost of parking in Southampton is as high as the daylight robbery that parking is at Heathrow/Gatwick.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar.[/p][/quote]Probably because the cost of parking in Southampton is as high as the daylight robbery that parking is at Heathrow/Gatwick. geoff51
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4:42pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Datarater says...

forest hump wrote:
How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar.
It's metaphorically speaking.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: How can you compare Heathrow with the Port of Southampton? Nothing vaguely similar.[/p][/quote]It's metaphorically speaking. Datarater
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4:07pm Wed 16 Apr 14

arizonan says...

From the Liverpool Echo, ' MORE BERTHS RELEASED FOR TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGE TO CELEBRATE CUNARD LINE'S 175th BIRTHDAY WITH MERSEY SPECTACULAR'

Cunard Line has released an extra 150 berths to meet demand for its first transatlantic crossing from Liverpool since 1968.
The extra 150 berths are in addition to the 250 berths which SOLD OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY for the crossing from Liverpool on the 2600 berth Cunard flagship.

Angus Struthers, Cunard's new marketing director, held a press conference at Liverpool's former Cunard Building headquarters, to discuss the plans for the 175th anniversary event.

He said,' There is only one focal point for the 175th anniversary and that's Liverpool. Its a fantastic opportunity for all of us.'

'I'm not surprised at the level of interest in the transatlantic voyage, given the love and affection people from Liverpool have for Cunard.

'We'd love to offer more berths from Liverpool, but in terms of a turnaround departure this is as many as we can manage.'

'Passengers from Southampton and Cherbourg will want to disembark to see Liverpool, while others are embarking to sail to New York.'

'Liverpool is not a port of call with us picking up a token number of passengers, we're just working with the constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal.'

Mr. Struthers said there were no plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York.

He said,' This one has taken 18 months to organise, but it's a case of, 'never say never,' as in 1968 Cunard suspended Liverpool-New York services-we didn't close them.'
From the Liverpool Echo, ' MORE BERTHS RELEASED FOR TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGE TO CELEBRATE CUNARD LINE'S 175th BIRTHDAY WITH MERSEY SPECTACULAR' Cunard Line has released an extra 150 berths to meet demand for its first transatlantic crossing from Liverpool since 1968. The extra 150 berths are in addition to the 250 berths which SOLD OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY for the crossing from Liverpool on the 2600 berth Cunard flagship. Angus Struthers, Cunard's new marketing director, held a press conference at Liverpool's former Cunard Building headquarters, to discuss the plans for the 175th anniversary event. He said,' There is only one focal point for the 175th anniversary and that's Liverpool. Its a fantastic opportunity for all of us.' 'I'm not surprised at the level of interest in the transatlantic voyage, given the love and affection people from Liverpool have for Cunard. 'We'd love to offer more berths from Liverpool, but in terms of a turnaround departure this is as many as we can manage.' 'Passengers from Southampton and Cherbourg will want to disembark to see Liverpool, while others are embarking to sail to New York.' 'Liverpool is not a port of call with us picking up a token number of passengers, we're just working with the constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal.' Mr. Struthers said there were no plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York. He said,' This one has taken 18 months to organise, but it's a case of, 'never say never,' as in 1968 Cunard suspended Liverpool-New York services-we didn't close them.' arizonan
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6:43pm Wed 16 Apr 14

in search of the truth says...

arizonan wrote:
From the Liverpool Echo, ' MORE BERTHS RELEASED FOR TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGE TO CELEBRATE CUNARD LINE'S 175th BIRTHDAY WITH MERSEY SPECTACULAR'

Cunard Line has released an extra 150 berths to meet demand for its first transatlantic crossing from Liverpool since 1968.
The extra 150 berths are in addition to the 250 berths which SOLD OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY for the crossing from Liverpool on the 2600 berth Cunard flagship.

Angus Struthers, Cunard's new marketing director, held a press conference at Liverpool's former Cunard Building headquarters, to discuss the plans for the 175th anniversary event.

He said,' There is only one focal point for the 175th anniversary and that's Liverpool. Its a fantastic opportunity for all of us.'

'I'm not surprised at the level of interest in the transatlantic voyage, given the love and affection people from Liverpool have for Cunard.

'We'd love to offer more berths from Liverpool, but in terms of a turnaround departure this is as many as we can manage.'

'Passengers from Southampton and Cherbourg will want to disembark to see Liverpool, while others are embarking to sail to New York.'

'Liverpool is not a port of call with us picking up a token number of passengers, we're just working with the constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal.'

Mr. Struthers said there were no plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York.

He said,' This one has taken 18 months to organise, but it's a case of, 'never say never,' as in 1968 Cunard suspended Liverpool-New York services-we didn't close them.'
They should have released another 1,000 as they would have been booked within the hour . such is the demand for tickets from Liverpool.
[quote][p][bold]arizonan[/bold] wrote: From the Liverpool Echo, ' MORE BERTHS RELEASED FOR TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGE TO CELEBRATE CUNARD LINE'S 175th BIRTHDAY WITH MERSEY SPECTACULAR' Cunard Line has released an extra 150 berths to meet demand for its first transatlantic crossing from Liverpool since 1968. The extra 150 berths are in addition to the 250 berths which SOLD OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY for the crossing from Liverpool on the 2600 berth Cunard flagship. Angus Struthers, Cunard's new marketing director, held a press conference at Liverpool's former Cunard Building headquarters, to discuss the plans for the 175th anniversary event. He said,' There is only one focal point for the 175th anniversary and that's Liverpool. Its a fantastic opportunity for all of us.' 'I'm not surprised at the level of interest in the transatlantic voyage, given the love and affection people from Liverpool have for Cunard. 'We'd love to offer more berths from Liverpool, but in terms of a turnaround departure this is as many as we can manage.' 'Passengers from Southampton and Cherbourg will want to disembark to see Liverpool, while others are embarking to sail to New York.' 'Liverpool is not a port of call with us picking up a token number of passengers, we're just working with the constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal.' Mr. Struthers said there were no plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York. He said,' This one has taken 18 months to organise, but it's a case of, 'never say never,' as in 1968 Cunard suspended Liverpool-New York services-we didn't close them.'[/p][/quote]They should have released another 1,000 as they would have been booked within the hour . such is the demand for tickets from Liverpool. in search of the truth
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10:16pm Thu 17 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Interesting comments made about the 'constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal'
It seems the Cunard Building ,might be wonderfully iconic but incapable of accommodating large ship turnrounds despite all the public money lavished on it.
Also 'No plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York
Wonder where all the new business will come from to pay back the Grant money?
Interesting comments made about the 'constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal' It seems the Cunard Building ,might be wonderfully iconic but incapable of accommodating large ship turnrounds despite all the public money lavished on it. Also 'No plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York Wonder where all the new business will come from to pay back the Grant money? phil maccavity
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4:37am Fri 18 Apr 14

arizonan says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Interesting comments made about the 'constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal'
It seems the Cunard Building ,might be wonderfully iconic but incapable of accommodating large ship turnrounds despite all the public money lavished on it.
Also 'No plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York
Wonder where all the new business will come from to pay back the Grant money?
Which cruise terminal is he talking about? I suspect he is talking about the present one, as, if what he said is correct this has taken 18 months to plan, the Cunard Cruise Terminal was not announced then.

You are not telling me that there is no business for Cunard from Liverpool are you?.Apart from its huge catchment area and destination appeal, add in Cunard's recent discovery of the Beatles plus the three Open golf courses, me thinks the US boomers would be beating a path to Liverpool from New York, Boston and Miami.

And if Mr Struthers cannot see that, he is in the wrong job.
l
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: Interesting comments made about the 'constraints we have with the size of the Cruise Terminal' It seems the Cunard Building ,might be wonderfully iconic but incapable of accommodating large ship turnrounds despite all the public money lavished on it. Also 'No plans to do a repeat transatlantic voyage from Liverpool to New York Wonder where all the new business will come from to pay back the Grant money?[/p][/quote]Which cruise terminal is he talking about? I suspect he is talking about the present one, as, if what he said is correct this has taken 18 months to plan, the Cunard Cruise Terminal was not announced then. You are not telling me that there is no business for Cunard from Liverpool are you?.Apart from its huge catchment area and destination appeal, add in Cunard's recent discovery of the Beatles plus the three Open golf courses, me thinks the US boomers would be beating a path to Liverpool from New York, Boston and Miami. And if Mr Struthers cannot see that, he is in the wrong job. l arizonan
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10:00am Fri 18 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Presumably the new terminal in the old Cunard building as this has been heralded as being ready for 2015 and genial Joe hosted a reception there recently
Perhaps the 18 months planning refers to the 3 ship calls in ports around the world, including Southampton and ensuring Liverpool can fit the itinerary.
I am also hearing thatt Liverpool Council have 'incentivised' Cunard to put the 3 ships on the Mersey next year, and that is fair enough as I am sure it will be a splendid and unique event
I am sure Liverpool is very attractive to Cruise lines as a port of call destination and this has proved to be the case.
I somehow suspect that Mr Struthers and his colleagues at Cunard/Carnival have more qualifications for the job than you have but no doubt he keeps up to speed with your very regular comments and advice in the Southampton Evening Echo.
Hope you are enjoying the nice weather down here. It was a bit parky when I was up on the Mersey earlier this week
Presumably the new terminal in the old Cunard building as this has been heralded as being ready for 2015 and genial Joe hosted a reception there recently Perhaps the 18 months planning refers to the 3 ship calls in ports around the world, including Southampton and ensuring Liverpool can fit the itinerary. I am also hearing thatt Liverpool Council have 'incentivised' Cunard to put the 3 ships on the Mersey next year, and that is fair enough as I am sure it will be a splendid and unique event I am sure Liverpool is very attractive to Cruise lines as a port of call destination and this has proved to be the case. I somehow suspect that Mr Struthers and his colleagues at Cunard/Carnival have more qualifications for the job than you have but no doubt he keeps up to speed with your very regular comments and advice in the Southampton Evening Echo. Hope you are enjoying the nice weather down here. It was a bit parky when I was up on the Mersey earlier this week phil maccavity
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2:56pm Fri 18 Apr 14

arizonan says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Presumably the new terminal in the old Cunard building as this has been heralded as being ready for 2015 and genial Joe hosted a reception there recently
Perhaps the 18 months planning refers to the 3 ship calls in ports around the world, including Southampton and ensuring Liverpool can fit the itinerary.
I am also hearing thatt Liverpool Council have 'incentivised' Cunard to put the 3 ships on the Mersey next year, and that is fair enough as I am sure it will be a splendid and unique event
I am sure Liverpool is very attractive to Cruise lines as a port of call destination and this has proved to be the case.
I somehow suspect that Mr Struthers and his colleagues at Cunard/Carnival have more qualifications for the job than you have but no doubt he keeps up to speed with your very regular comments and advice in the Southampton Evening Echo.
Hope you are enjoying the nice weather down here. It was a bit parky when I was up on the Mersey earlier this week
You don't think Liverpool is attractive to all the cruise and potential cruise pax north of Birmingham in the UK and Ireland who wish to avoid the mess that is Southampton?.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: Presumably the new terminal in the old Cunard building as this has been heralded as being ready for 2015 and genial Joe hosted a reception there recently Perhaps the 18 months planning refers to the 3 ship calls in ports around the world, including Southampton and ensuring Liverpool can fit the itinerary. I am also hearing thatt Liverpool Council have 'incentivised' Cunard to put the 3 ships on the Mersey next year, and that is fair enough as I am sure it will be a splendid and unique event I am sure Liverpool is very attractive to Cruise lines as a port of call destination and this has proved to be the case. I somehow suspect that Mr Struthers and his colleagues at Cunard/Carnival have more qualifications for the job than you have but no doubt he keeps up to speed with your very regular comments and advice in the Southampton Evening Echo. Hope you are enjoying the nice weather down here. It was a bit parky when I was up on the Mersey earlier this week[/p][/quote]You don't think Liverpool is attractive to all the cruise and potential cruise pax north of Birmingham in the UK and Ireland who wish to avoid the mess that is Southampton?. arizonan
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5:13pm Fri 18 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Did you not read my post?
Paragraph 4 refers
What I continue to find rather puzzling is that with all the benefits that Liverpool has, why did the Council have to obtain a large EC grant and then tell porkies to get a turnround cruise facility.
Surely with all the positives you continue to regale us with, via regular internet links, there should be a multitude of commercial interests beating a path to genial Joe's door.
Perhaps cruise lines have different parameters to those you regularly expound and that is why the relatively bland cruise ports of Southampton, Dover, Harwich and Tilbury are predominant in the market and the likes of Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Bristol, which offer more as cities in their own right, are relative minnows.
The thing is I probably know more about the business world in the North West than you do
There are many 'interesting' things that go on.
In comparison I guess you have to rely on everything you read in the press
Anyway enjoy the Easter sunshine.
Did you not read my post? Paragraph 4 refers What I continue to find rather puzzling is that with all the benefits that Liverpool has, why did the Council have to obtain a large EC grant and then tell porkies to get a turnround cruise facility. Surely with all the positives you continue to regale us with, via regular internet links, there should be a multitude of commercial interests beating a path to genial Joe's door. Perhaps cruise lines have different parameters to those you regularly expound and that is why the relatively bland cruise ports of Southampton, Dover, Harwich and Tilbury are predominant in the market and the likes of Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Bristol, which offer more as cities in their own right, are relative minnows. The thing is I probably know more about the business world in the North West than you do There are many 'interesting' things that go on. In comparison I guess you have to rely on everything you read in the press Anyway enjoy the Easter sunshine. phil maccavity
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11:15pm Fri 18 Apr 14

arizonan says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Did you not read my post?
Paragraph 4 refers
What I continue to find rather puzzling is that with all the benefits that Liverpool has, why did the Council have to obtain a large EC grant and then tell porkies to get a turnround cruise facility.
Surely with all the positives you continue to regale us with, via regular internet links, there should be a multitude of commercial interests beating a path to genial Joe's door.
Perhaps cruise lines have different parameters to those you regularly expound and that is why the relatively bland cruise ports of Southampton, Dover, Harwich and Tilbury are predominant in the market and the likes of Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Bristol, which offer more as cities in their own right, are relative minnows.
The thing is I probably know more about the business world in the North West than you do
There are many 'interesting' things that go on.
In comparison I guess you have to rely on everything you read in the press
Anyway enjoy the Easter sunshine.
You guess wrong..

Cunard are not filling the wishes of their customers, both real and potential.
It is strange, institutionalised thinking that trots out the same boring Southampton to New York service each year, and then has to discount them to fill the berths.
BTW, could you give us some examples of your inestimable knowledge of the business world in the North West. Bet it will make a fascinating read.

.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: Did you not read my post? Paragraph 4 refers What I continue to find rather puzzling is that with all the benefits that Liverpool has, why did the Council have to obtain a large EC grant and then tell porkies to get a turnround cruise facility. Surely with all the positives you continue to regale us with, via regular internet links, there should be a multitude of commercial interests beating a path to genial Joe's door. Perhaps cruise lines have different parameters to those you regularly expound and that is why the relatively bland cruise ports of Southampton, Dover, Harwich and Tilbury are predominant in the market and the likes of Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Bristol, which offer more as cities in their own right, are relative minnows. The thing is I probably know more about the business world in the North West than you do There are many 'interesting' things that go on. In comparison I guess you have to rely on everything you read in the press Anyway enjoy the Easter sunshine.[/p][/quote]You guess wrong.. Cunard are not filling the wishes of their customers, both real and potential. It is strange, institutionalised thinking that trots out the same boring Southampton to New York service each year, and then has to discount them to fill the berths. BTW, could you give us some examples of your inestimable knowledge of the business world in the North West. Bet it will make a fascinating read. . arizonan
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11:14am Sat 19 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

In YOUR opinion Cunard are not fulfilling their customer needs.
In YOUR opinion the Liverpool Boat Show was scuppered by the organisers of the London and Southampton Boat Show.
btw you can obtain a discount from almost all cruise lines if you ask nicely, including those out of Liverpool
In answer to your other question, I have both direct and indirect business interests in the N West which gives me an insight into a lot of the good and bad things that go on up there.
What is particularly galling is the waste of a good deal of the Grant Money.
There are many local people in Liverpool who have attempted to debate about the most suitable use of the £2billion + that has been pumped into Merseyside since the intial Scarman report and Heseltine's visit post Toxteth.
Since Liverpool received Objective One status in 1994,. when the largesse began in earnest,, a number of positives have been achieved but conversely so much money has been wasted on failed projects which have consumed cash to cover consultant reports, legal fees and line the pockets of 'scallys'
Most of the grant money has gone on City Centre projects, whereas the more deprived areas are scratching around to get crumbs at the table
I was talking to someone the other day about the £22m of Grant money spent on the 1.4 mile canal link into Stanley Dock. Admittedly it looks good. However when I asked about the evaluation of the Grant application business case, I was told something along the lines ...' well I it hasn't been done yet'' ... which means that five years down the line since completion of the project it never will be and looking at the amount of people in and around the area I very much doubt it will attract the annual £7.5m economic benefit originally projected
There are other examples of this from the infamous grants given to training hundreds of hairdressers which created two jobs, to more major issues such as problems in the Ropewalks area (the European Commission Fraud Squad said it was more difficult to obtain information on this than trying to find WMD in Iraq.)
Of course Merseyside is not alone when it comes to concentrating free cash on grand projects but Merseyside has been one of the major beneficiaries of EC Objective One funding.
However what irks people down here is when posters regularly come on the Southampton Echo site to promote all the new investment on Merseyside (when in some cases they don't even live there any more!!!) and denigrating this area, whilst up until recently a fair amount of business revenue from Hampshire and the south went north to help deprived areas.
What you are in fact doing is enhancing an outdated and incorrect stereotype of the vast majority of Liverpudlians.
In YOUR opinion Cunard are not fulfilling their customer needs. In YOUR opinion the Liverpool Boat Show was scuppered by the organisers of the London and Southampton Boat Show. btw you can obtain a discount from almost all cruise lines if you ask nicely, including those out of Liverpool In answer to your other question, I have both direct and indirect business interests in the N West which gives me an insight into a lot of the good and bad things that go on up there. What is particularly galling is the waste of a good deal of the Grant Money. There are many local people in Liverpool who have attempted to debate about the most suitable use of the £2billion + that has been pumped into Merseyside since the intial Scarman report and Heseltine's visit post Toxteth. Since Liverpool received Objective One status in 1994,. when the largesse began in earnest,, a number of positives have been achieved but conversely so much money has been wasted on failed projects which have consumed cash to cover consultant reports, legal fees and line the pockets of 'scallys' Most of the grant money has gone on City Centre projects, whereas the more deprived areas are scratching around to get crumbs at the table I was talking to someone the other day about the £22m of Grant money spent on the 1.4 mile canal link into Stanley Dock. Admittedly it looks good. However when I asked about the evaluation of the Grant application business case, I was told something along the lines ...' well I it hasn't been done yet'' ... which means that five years down the line since completion of the project it never will be and looking at the amount of people in and around the area I very much doubt it will attract the annual £7.5m economic benefit originally projected There are other examples of this from the infamous grants given to training hundreds of hairdressers which created two jobs, to more major issues such as problems in the Ropewalks area (the European Commission Fraud Squad said it was more difficult to obtain information on this than trying to find WMD in Iraq.) Of course Merseyside is not alone when it comes to concentrating free cash on grand projects but Merseyside has been one of the major beneficiaries of EC Objective One funding. However what irks people down here is when posters regularly come on the Southampton Echo site to promote all the new investment on Merseyside (when in some cases they don't even live there any more!!!) and denigrating this area, whilst up until recently a fair amount of business revenue from Hampshire and the south went north to help deprived areas. What you are in fact doing is enhancing an outdated and incorrect stereotype of the vast majority of Liverpudlians. phil maccavity
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3:04pm Sat 19 Apr 14

arizonan says...

It was and is, the Southampton press that are enhancing an outdated and incorrect stereotype of the vast majority of Liverpudlians with its cruise war graphic and the,'stealing' of Southampton's cruise business.

You seem to have an odd problem with posters locations. In the past you have wanted to know my location as some sort of way of invalidating the comments I make, or some sort of personal attack when when you could not come up with an answer to a point that I have made.

However, we will all have to take your,' inside' information as gospel.
It was and is, the Southampton press that are enhancing an outdated and incorrect stereotype of the vast majority of Liverpudlians with its cruise war graphic and the,'stealing' of Southampton's cruise business. You seem to have an odd problem with posters locations. In the past you have wanted to know my location as some sort of way of invalidating the comments I make, or some sort of personal attack when when you could not come up with an answer to a point that I have made. However, we will all have to take your,' inside' information as gospel. arizonan
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6:40pm Sat 19 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Please show me where I have made a personal attack on you.
It is difficult to provide a factual answer to your points when you often express a personal opinion (ie Cunard management not 'filling' the wishes of their customers) or take as gospel press statements which reflect your view.
It just seems a bit odd to me that you are constantly on the Echo site promoting Liverpool (which in essence is fine, if done in the right way) but often denigrating Southampton (which in my eyes only dilutes any comments you wish to put over) from a location which is not within the Liverpool post code
The fact is that Liverpool Council gained a wedge of grant money under false pretences.to provide a turnround cruise facility to the detriment of all the other UK ports who had to go through the normal commercial channels.
If you wish to continue to justify this then fair enough.
However it puts you in the minority of those on Merseyside who wish to promote a more representative and fair business ethic
Happy Easter
Please show me where I have made a personal attack on you. It is difficult to provide a factual answer to your points when you often express a personal opinion (ie Cunard management not 'filling' the wishes of their customers) or take as gospel press statements which reflect your view. It just seems a bit odd to me that you are constantly on the Echo site promoting Liverpool (which in essence is fine, if done in the right way) but often denigrating Southampton (which in my eyes only dilutes any comments you wish to put over) from a location which is not within the Liverpool post code The fact is that Liverpool Council gained a wedge of grant money under false pretences.to provide a turnround cruise facility to the detriment of all the other UK ports who had to go through the normal commercial channels. If you wish to continue to justify this then fair enough. However it puts you in the minority of those on Merseyside who wish to promote a more representative and fair business ethic Happy Easter phil maccavity
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6:46am Sun 20 Apr 14

arizonan says...

How do you know that I am not writing from a Liverpool post code? Again, what is this fascination with my location, I truly do not get it.
My "promotion' of Liverpool is usually a news item to counter the negative news items emanating from the Southern Echo.. This newspaper was into stereotyping in a big way, so any news item concerning the shipping industry in Liverpool I send.
You mention detriment to all other UK ports from Liverpool obtaining turnarounds.
Can you mention the ports who have seen decreased profits on their cruise operations, or perhaps redundencies in same?
How do you know that I am not writing from a Liverpool post code? Again, what is this fascination with my location, I truly do not get it. My "promotion' of Liverpool is usually a news item to counter the negative news items emanating from the Southern Echo.. This newspaper was into stereotyping in a big way, so any news item concerning the shipping industry in Liverpool I send. You mention detriment to all other UK ports from Liverpool obtaining turnarounds. Can you mention the ports who have seen decreased profits on their cruise operations, or perhaps redundencies in same? arizonan
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5:28am Wed 23 Apr 14

arizonan says...

This is my final post to the Southern Echo, Goodbye.
This is my final post to the Southern Echo, Goodbye. arizonan
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4:19pm Thu 24 Apr 14

In search of the truth. says...

Arizonan,

I hope you have a change of heart over this decision to leave this forum as I and many other posters who fight for the good name of Liverpool value your remarks.
Your Knowledge and experience in dealing with the often malicious and slanderous comments put forward by this paper and a number of ( but not all ) posters on this site regarding Liverpool would be a great loss.
Arizonan, I hope you have a change of heart over this decision to leave this forum as I and many other posters who fight for the good name of Liverpool value your remarks. Your Knowledge and experience in dealing with the often malicious and slanderous comments put forward by this paper and a number of ( but not all ) posters on this site regarding Liverpool would be a great loss. In search of the truth.
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