Organisers of Wiggle cycle event through New Forest ban cyclists caught urinating by side of road

Cyclists banned from mass event after urinating by side of road

Cyclists banned from mass event after urinating by side of road

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BEHAVE or else!

That’s the message to people taking part in mass cycling events in the New Forest after 18 riders were banned for a variety of acts– including urinating by the side of the road.

Organisers of the Wiggle New Forest Spring Sportive launched a crackdown after riders ignored the toilets provided and relieved themselves in front of villagers.

The riders have been barred from all future rides – and similar action is likely to be taken against anyone else who flouts the rules.

As reported in the Daily Echo, more than 2,000 cyclists took part in the two day event on April 12-13.

Campaigners tried to sabotage the ride by throwing tacks on to a road in Bransgore. A total of 15 cyclists suffered punctures but no-one was hurt in the incident, which is being investigated by police.

The cyclists caught urinating were spotted outside the Forest Park Hotel in Brockenhurst.

Martin Barden, of UK Cycling Events, said: “The hotel had eight portaloos and our marshals told all riders stopping at the hotel to ensure they used the toilets provided.

“Anyone who decided not to was instantly banned from the event as this is not something we condone.”

Mr Barden has not revealed why any of the other cyclists were barred but before the event he warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified.

Delegates at a recent meeting of New Forest Association of Local Councils were told that 18 riders were in the process of being banned.

Cllr Russell Horne, chairman of Brockenhurst Parish Council, said Mr Barden had previously promised to bar anyone caught breaking the Highway Code.

Maureen Holding, a district councillor for the village, said the Spring Sportive entrants caused “pandemonium” in the village.

She added: “The road was blocked by people who had abandoned their cycles in the middle of the road. And some of them were urinating in full view of families – even though there were toilets only a few feet away.

“I hope the ban sends out a clear message that we expect people to behave.”

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10:02am Sun 27 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

That really is taking the pis#
That really is taking the pis# Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 20

10:39am Sun 27 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

pandemonium
  Use Pandemonium in a sentence
pan·de·mo·ni·um

Show IPA
noun
1.
wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos.
2.
a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos.
3.
( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons.
4.
hell.

Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well
pandemonium   Use Pandemonium in a sentence pan·de·mo·ni·um [pan-duh-moh-nee-uhm] Show IPA noun 1. wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos. 2. a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos. 3. ( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons. 4. hell. Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well bigfella777
  • Score: -9

10:49am Sun 27 Apr 14

exforester says...

They could at least have found a bush to hide behind, like the rest of us do!
They could at least have found a bush to hide behind, like the rest of us do! exforester
  • Score: 22

11:08am Sun 27 Apr 14

Mr E says...

Where's the popcorn - This is going to be fun then the comedy cycling-trolls put the word out on Twitter .
Where's the popcorn - This is going to be fun then the comedy cycling-trolls put the word out on Twitter . Mr E
  • Score: -5

11:43am Sun 27 Apr 14

vag says...

Good call. A few complete pillocks can ruin it for everyone. This years event was much better than last years event on that front anyway. It's nice to see these folk being dealt with appropriately.
Good call. A few complete pillocks can ruin it for everyone. This years event was much better than last years event on that front anyway. It's nice to see these folk being dealt with appropriately. vag
  • Score: 16

11:43am Sun 27 Apr 14

Stubs says...

At least they weren't doing number 2s.
At least they weren't doing number 2s. Stubs
  • Score: 5

11:49am Sun 27 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
pandemonium
  Use Pandemonium in a sentence
pan·de·mo·ni·um

Show IPA
noun
1.
wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos.
2.
a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos.
3.
( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons.
4.
hell.

Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well
Oh dear, you can dish it out but you can't take it can you?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: pandemonium   Use Pandemonium in a sentence pan·de·mo·ni·um [pan-duh-moh-nee-uhm] Show IPA noun 1. wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos. 2. a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos. 3. ( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons. 4. hell. Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you can dish it out but you can't take it can you? Torchie1
  • Score: 7

11:58am Sun 27 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like.
This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it.
As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.
The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like. This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it. As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -7

12:17pm Sun 27 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like.
This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it.
As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.
Yes, people need the loo but there aren't any loos. McDonalds are the new patron saint of conveniences.
In China children actually have a little flap in the back of their clothes and the parents just lift them up and they dump on the street, they don't have a doggy bag either just for comparisons.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like. This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it. As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.[/p][/quote]Yes, people need the loo but there aren't any loos. McDonalds are the new patron saint of conveniences. In China children actually have a little flap in the back of their clothes and the parents just lift them up and they dump on the street, they don't have a doggy bag either just for comparisons. bigfella777
  • Score: -6

12:17pm Sun 27 Apr 14

itsnotjustice says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like.
This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it.
As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.
maby so, but who wants to be like the french????

needing the loo is NOT a crime, but pi$$ing in the street is. and thats the way it should stay.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like. This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it. As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.[/p][/quote]maby so, but who wants to be like the french???? needing the loo is NOT a crime, but pi$$ing in the street is. and thats the way it should stay. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 19

12:55pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -9

2:18pm Sun 27 Apr 14

saint61 says...

Why only ban them? This is a criminal offence. Report them to the police.
Why only ban them? This is a criminal offence. Report them to the police. saint61
  • Score: 4

2:51pm Sun 27 Apr 14

biggus2 says...

No point in reporting it to the Police the evidence would have evaporated. Just record them on your mobile and upload it to u tube.or DE
No point in reporting it to the Police the evidence would have evaporated. Just record them on your mobile and upload it to u tube.or DE biggus2
  • Score: 7

3:38pm Sun 27 Apr 14

geoff51 says...

To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name. geoff51
  • Score: 4

3:48pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like.
This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it.
As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.
Yes, people need the loo but there aren't any loos. McDonalds are the new patron saint of conveniences.
In China children actually have a little flap in the back of their clothes and the parents just lift them up and they dump on the street, they don't have a doggy bag either just for comparisons.
Well then that just says something about a country where public conveniences are closing more often than pubs.
The one thing that is certain,apart from deaths and taxes,is that human beings will always need to go to the toilet. No one should be denied the opportunity to either ask for the use of a toilet,or ask for a glass of water,as they are both human needs which all of us are entitled to.
To charge people,or deny them the right when they are desperate, which let's face it,if we are being honest,we all have been at one time or another,is just inhuman.
It may be a prudish Victorian offence to do it in public,but " let he that is without sin,cast the first stone",as someone once said.If you haven't done it yourself at some time,then you have the right to moan,otherwise,it might be fairer to keep stum.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: The French would laugh at this,they do it where they like. This is all very British;needing the loo is not a crime,we all do it. As long as people are discreet,and cause no offence,a little more understanding wouldn't go amiss.[/p][/quote]Yes, people need the loo but there aren't any loos. McDonalds are the new patron saint of conveniences. In China children actually have a little flap in the back of their clothes and the parents just lift them up and they dump on the street, they don't have a doggy bag either just for comparisons.[/p][/quote]Well then that just says something about a country where public conveniences are closing more often than pubs. The one thing that is certain,apart from deaths and taxes,is that human beings will always need to go to the toilet. No one should be denied the opportunity to either ask for the use of a toilet,or ask for a glass of water,as they are both human needs which all of us are entitled to. To charge people,or deny them the right when they are desperate, which let's face it,if we are being honest,we all have been at one time or another,is just inhuman. It may be a prudish Victorian offence to do it in public,but " let he that is without sin,cast the first stone",as someone once said.If you haven't done it yourself at some time,then you have the right to moan,otherwise,it might be fairer to keep stum. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -5

3:57pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Turtlebay says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
in the article it says "Mr Barden...warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified."

Guess you didn't read that Ginger?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]in the article it says "Mr Barden...warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified." Guess you didn't read that Ginger? Turtlebay
  • Score: 8

4:01pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Turtlebay says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
Because it was what the organiser told them "Mr Barden... warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified."

But he has said in the past that it is neither a race nor a time trial - he needs a special licence for that - so if there is no competition how can they be disqualified?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]Because it was what the organiser told them "Mr Barden... warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified." But he has said in the past that it is neither a race nor a time trial - he needs a special licence for that - so if there is no competition how can they be disqualified? Turtlebay
  • Score: 1

4:14pm Sun 27 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
Single file is a requirement when other traffic is about. Highway code rule 66 (3): never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]Single file is a requirement when other traffic is about. Highway code rule 66 (3): never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends. good-gosh
  • Score: 10

4:54pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Esteban09 says...

geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life. Esteban09
  • Score: 7

4:56pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Esteban09 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
Because it was what the organiser told them "Mr Barden... warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified."

But he has said in the past that it is neither a race nor a time trial - he needs a special licence for that - so if there is no competition how can they be disqualified?
They weren't disqualified, they were banned from future events.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]Because it was what the organiser told them "Mr Barden... warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified." But he has said in the past that it is neither a race nor a time trial - he needs a special licence for that - so if there is no competition how can they be disqualified?[/p][/quote]They weren't disqualified, they were banned from future events. Esteban09
  • Score: 1

8:02pm Sun 27 Apr 14

geoff51 says...

Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
[quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates. geoff51
  • Score: -8

8:08pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Forest Resident says...

If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy.
If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy. Forest Resident
  • Score: 12

8:20pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Rolodojo says...

I think the lot of need to get a Grip. A Whole bunch of NIMBYS and Jobsworth Numptys on both sides of this non argument.
I think the lot of need to get a Grip. A Whole bunch of NIMBYS and Jobsworth Numptys on both sides of this non argument. Rolodojo
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Esteban09 says...

geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier.

Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots. Esteban09
  • Score: 14

9:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Esteban09 says...

Rolodojo wrote:
I think the lot of need to get a Grip. A Whole bunch of NIMBYS and Jobsworth Numptys on both sides of this non argument.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Rolodojo[/bold] wrote: I think the lot of need to get a Grip. A Whole bunch of NIMBYS and Jobsworth Numptys on both sides of this non argument.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Esteban09
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

derek james says...

just a thought i don't know what toilet facilities were provided but maybe they should be big enough to allow a cycle in as well.i cycle to work every day i do not have the time or will to take part in these so-called races but respect the rights of those who do.the cycles may cost a grand or more so you won't leave them outside while you have a pee and due to weight considerations you are unlikely to be carrying a decent cycle lock
just a thought i don't know what toilet facilities were provided but maybe they should be big enough to allow a cycle in as well.i cycle to work every day i do not have the time or will to take part in these so-called races but respect the rights of those who do.the cycles may cost a grand or more so you won't leave them outside while you have a pee and due to weight considerations you are unlikely to be carrying a decent cycle lock derek james
  • Score: -5

10:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Dr Martin says...

mike coll wrote:
Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise.
well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.
Trying to be hard man mike?
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise. well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.[/p][/quote]Trying to be hard man mike? Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf.

By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it.

Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf. By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it. Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening. Drhysted
  • Score: 5

11:14pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

This really is a non-story, cyclists were banned last year as well.

Unfortunately you get idiots in every walk of life, like the drivers today who failed to drive in a straight line without hitting each other.

An idiot will be an idiot regardless of what transport they use.
This really is a non-story, cyclists were banned last year as well. Unfortunately you get idiots in every walk of life, like the drivers today who failed to drive in a straight line without hitting each other. An idiot will be an idiot regardless of what transport they use. Drhysted
  • Score: 5

11:14pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

Give this a read

http://www.photogob.
co.uk/2014/02/26/dea
lingwithcyclists/
Give this a read http://www.photogob. co.uk/2014/02/26/dea lingwithcyclists/ Drhysted
  • Score: 4

11:37pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

good-gosh wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
Single file is a requirement when other traffic is about. Highway code rule 66 (3): never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends.
No, it's not and that rule actually causes more danger than it prevents.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]Single file is a requirement when other traffic is about. Highway code rule 66 (3): never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends.[/p][/quote]No, it's not and that rule actually causes more danger than it prevents. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

mike coll wrote:
Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise.
well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.
Rule 66 is a SHOULD, not a MUST, it also causes more problems than it solves because if a road is too busy or too narrow to pass cyclists riding 2 abreast, then it's quite likely that it's too busy or too narrow to pass cyclists riding single file and yeah, I've started my grounds maintenance job which has nothing to do with cleaning the parks and streets, that job lies with the street cleansing teams who also drive those deceptively heavy, compact sweepers, whereas I'm more likely to end up driving one of the kubota, ride on mowers.
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise. well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.[/p][/quote]Rule 66 is a SHOULD, not a MUST, it also causes more problems than it solves because if a road is too busy or too narrow to pass cyclists riding 2 abreast, then it's quite likely that it's too busy or too narrow to pass cyclists riding single file and yeah, I've started my grounds maintenance job which has nothing to do with cleaning the parks and streets, that job lies with the street cleansing teams who also drive those deceptively heavy, compact sweepers, whereas I'm more likely to end up driving one of the kubota, ride on mowers. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

11:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.
in the article it says "Mr Barden...warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified."

Guess you didn't read that Ginger?
I read it and took no notice because riding 2 abreast isn't breaking ANY rules or laws.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Don't know why they mentioned riding 2 abreast, it's not illegal, not against their rules, not against the forests cycling rules and not against the highway code, in fact, their own rules state to ride no more than 2 ABREAST.[/p][/quote]in the article it says "Mr Barden...warned that anyone caught blocking the road by cycling two, three or four abreast would be disqualified." Guess you didn't read that Ginger?[/p][/quote]I read it and took no notice because riding 2 abreast isn't breaking ANY rules or laws. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

11:53pm Sun 27 Apr 14

geoff51 says...

Drhysted wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf.

By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it.

Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening.
Yes I do live on the forest and to be perfectly honest I dont give a to$$ whether i have your permission to speak as I am entitled to my opinion without reference.
I dislike the arrogance of the Racers on the wiggle race and the intransigent attitude of the Lycra brigade on these forums when someone dares to disagree with them.
Nazi may be too strong maybe Fascist would be more appropriate, but they are both dictators who wont brook opposition,
[quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf. By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it. Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening.[/p][/quote]Yes I do live on the forest and to be perfectly honest I dont give a to$$ whether i have your permission to speak as I am entitled to my opinion without reference. I dislike the arrogance of the Racers on the wiggle race and the intransigent attitude of the Lycra brigade on these forums when someone dares to disagree with them. Nazi may be too strong maybe Fascist would be more appropriate, but they are both dictators who wont brook opposition, geoff51
  • Score: -16

11:54pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier.

Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.
A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them.
I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified
Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.[/p][/quote]A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them. I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified[/p][/quote]Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

11:58pm Sun 27 Apr 14

geoff51 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier.

Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.
A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them.
I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified
Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.
In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.[/p][/quote]A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them. I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified[/p][/quote]Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.[/p][/quote]In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion. geoff51
  • Score: -13

12:35am Mon 28 Apr 14

Poppy22 says...

Forest Resident wrote:
If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy.
Great to see a Forest Resident saying this. Agree with all the above.
I'm not a cyclist but I know from my partner that the Wiggle events (as with other cycling events like those run by the National Heart Foundation) are very responsibly run and that most cyclists are considerate people who just want to enjoy the outdoors and The Forest like walkers, horse riders, etc.
Good that Wiggle took action against the anti-social people relieving themselves (though I do wonder if it was a statement against the anti-cyclists, especially those throwing tacks on the route, which would injure animals or puncture car tyres of locals as much as they would ruin a cyclist's tyre!).
The biggest nuisance in the Forest are the cars, especially many four-wheel drive vehicles driven at speed by total idiots who seem to think the whole road is for their sole use (when they're the ones who should be driving on the rough sides of the road to make room for smaller cars and the animals!).
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy.[/p][/quote]Great to see a Forest Resident saying this. Agree with all the above. I'm not a cyclist but I know from my partner that the Wiggle events (as with other cycling events like those run by the National Heart Foundation) are very responsibly run and that most cyclists are considerate people who just want to enjoy the outdoors and The Forest like walkers, horse riders, etc. Good that Wiggle took action against the anti-social people relieving themselves (though I do wonder if it was a statement against the anti-cyclists, especially those throwing tacks on the route, which would injure animals or puncture car tyres of locals as much as they would ruin a cyclist's tyre!). The biggest nuisance in the Forest are the cars, especially many four-wheel drive vehicles driven at speed by total idiots who seem to think the whole road is for their sole use (when they're the ones who should be driving on the rough sides of the road to make room for smaller cars and the animals!). Poppy22
  • Score: 4

12:37am Mon 28 Apr 14

Poppy22 says...

Forgot to say that the heading on this article is very bad on the front page - it should start with the word "Some" as it gives the impression that the events have been cancelled!
Forgot to say that the heading on this article is very bad on the front page - it should start with the word "Some" as it gives the impression that the events have been cancelled! Poppy22
  • Score: 3

7:53am Mon 28 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

mike coll wrote:
Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise.
well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.
Peddle faster? What's he selling?
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: Ho dear, Ginger does not know his highway code, what a surprise. well ginger, I am over in the U:K in May so if you see a new black Land Rover 90 with Swiss plates that start LU then peddle faster, its me coming to get you (unless you have started your council park cleaning job which means you are off the road when I am on it) Damm.[/p][/quote]Peddle faster? What's he selling? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 5

8:15am Mon 28 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

geoff51 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.
A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them. I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified
Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.
In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion.
Aw wee Jeffy! He loves a pointless conflict!

Just out of curiousity how has the new forest coped with such devastating wee wee from 15 people on the grass, where ponies poop, daily. Is it still there?
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.[/p][/quote]A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them. I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified[/p][/quote]Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.[/p][/quote]In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion.[/p][/quote]Aw wee Jeffy! He loves a pointless conflict! Just out of curiousity how has the new forest coped with such devastating wee wee from 15 people on the grass, where ponies poop, daily. Is it still there? camerajuan
  • Score: 4

9:12am Mon 28 Apr 14

Lockssmart says...

Torchie1 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
pandemonium
  Use Pandemonium in a sentence
pan·de·mo·ni·um

Show IPA
noun
1.
wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos.
2.
a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos.
3.
( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons.
4.
hell.

Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well
Oh dear, you can dish it out but you can't take it can you?
No, you have it wrong. Gingercyclist and bigfella777 know everything. They prove that over and over every day. They must be past Mastermind winners?
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: pandemonium   Use Pandemonium in a sentence pan·de·mo·ni·um [pan-duh-moh-nee-uhm] Show IPA noun 1. wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos. 2. a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos. 3. ( often initial capital letter ) the abode of all the demons. 4. hell. Sensationalist rubbish as usual, maybe dogs should be banned from passing water in public as well[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you can dish it out but you can't take it can you?[/p][/quote]No, you have it wrong. Gingercyclist and bigfella777 know everything. They prove that over and over every day. They must be past Mastermind winners? Lockssmart
  • Score: 0

9:57am Mon 28 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

geoff51 wrote:
Drhysted wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf.

By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it.

Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening.
Yes I do live on the forest and to be perfectly honest I dont give a to$$ whether i have your permission to speak as I am entitled to my opinion without reference.
I dislike the arrogance of the Racers on the wiggle race and the intransigent attitude of the Lycra brigade on these forums when someone dares to disagree with them.
Nazi may be too strong maybe Fascist would be more appropriate, but they are both dictators who wont brook opposition,
Yes you are entitled to YOUR opinion. YOU are NOT entitled to speak for others unless YOU have their agreement. YOU do not, which makes YOU the Fascist or Nazi or Dictator.
When will you people learn that narrow minded, bigoted NIMBYs are not welcome in the New Forest.

Yes I do give a toss when someone repeatedly speaks for me, when they are completely, utterly, and ridiculously wrong.

For the record Jeff, you are not winding up a cyclist, you are annoying a resident, who cycles, drives, walks, exercises dogs, checks on wildlife, and has been on the forest since before he could walk!
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]Jeff I can't remember if you have covered this before. But are you actually a resident of the New Forest, or do you just like to speak on my behalf. By the way I have not given you permission to speak on my behalf, so please stop doing it. Oh a Nazi comes from Germany. My mother was from Nursling, my father Holbury. I really would be disappointed if I wasn't welcome in my own home. But then you don't know me, or fellow riders, I believe you know the anecdotal stories that the press keep printing, and not what is happening.[/p][/quote]Yes I do live on the forest and to be perfectly honest I dont give a to$$ whether i have your permission to speak as I am entitled to my opinion without reference. I dislike the arrogance of the Racers on the wiggle race and the intransigent attitude of the Lycra brigade on these forums when someone dares to disagree with them. Nazi may be too strong maybe Fascist would be more appropriate, but they are both dictators who wont brook opposition,[/p][/quote]Yes you are entitled to YOUR opinion. YOU are NOT entitled to speak for others unless YOU have their agreement. YOU do not, which makes YOU the Fascist or Nazi or Dictator. When will you people learn that narrow minded, bigoted NIMBYs are not welcome in the New Forest. Yes I do give a toss when someone repeatedly speaks for me, when they are completely, utterly, and ridiculously wrong. For the record Jeff, you are not winding up a cyclist, you are annoying a resident, who cycles, drives, walks, exercises dogs, checks on wildlife, and has been on the forest since before he could walk! Drhysted
  • Score: 10

10:17am Mon 28 Apr 14

RomseyKeith says...

Poppy22 wrote:
Forest Resident wrote: If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy.
Great to see a Forest Resident saying this. Agree with all the above. I'm not a cyclist but I know from my partner that the Wiggle events (as with other cycling events like those run by the National Heart Foundation) are very responsibly run and that most cyclists are considerate people who just want to enjoy the outdoors and The Forest like walkers, horse riders, etc. Good that Wiggle took action against the anti-social people relieving themselves (though I do wonder if it was a statement against the anti-cyclists, especially those throwing tacks on the route, which would injure animals or puncture car tyres of locals as much as they would ruin a cyclist's tyre!). The biggest nuisance in the Forest are the cars, especially many four-wheel drive vehicles driven at speed by total idiots who seem to think the whole road is for their sole use (when they're the ones who should be driving on the rough sides of the road to make room for smaller cars and the animals!).
Agreed. How many horses, ponies, deer, etc have been hit, killed, or left for dead by motor vehicles, and how many have been hit by cyclists?
(I'm also not a cyclist who took part in this event. I occasionally cycle along the Test Way near Romsey, which is all off-road).
[quote][p][bold]Poppy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: If a few people answering the call of nature in a bush is the best the NIMBYs can come up with to discredit cyclists in the New Forst then it shows how truly short sighted and narrow minded they have become. Even the commoners, verderers, and agisters will have relieved themselves upon the forest at some point, to use this same allegation in suggesting cyclists lack respect for the forest and are creating pandemonium is farcical and smacks of desperate double standards. This phoney 'war' on cyclists has reached the national press on numerous occasions in recent weeks, from those reports it is apparent that the only people 'damaging' the New Forest are the anti cycling idiots who are allowing their intolerant selfish ways to come before the wider needs of the National Park as a tourist destination and are putting off a great many people from coming to the area and making vital contributions to our local economy.[/p][/quote]Great to see a Forest Resident saying this. Agree with all the above. I'm not a cyclist but I know from my partner that the Wiggle events (as with other cycling events like those run by the National Heart Foundation) are very responsibly run and that most cyclists are considerate people who just want to enjoy the outdoors and The Forest like walkers, horse riders, etc. Good that Wiggle took action against the anti-social people relieving themselves (though I do wonder if it was a statement against the anti-cyclists, especially those throwing tacks on the route, which would injure animals or puncture car tyres of locals as much as they would ruin a cyclist's tyre!). The biggest nuisance in the Forest are the cars, especially many four-wheel drive vehicles driven at speed by total idiots who seem to think the whole road is for their sole use (when they're the ones who should be driving on the rough sides of the road to make room for smaller cars and the animals!).[/p][/quote]Agreed. How many horses, ponies, deer, etc have been hit, killed, or left for dead by motor vehicles, and how many have been hit by cyclists? (I'm also not a cyclist who took part in this event. I occasionally cycle along the Test Way near Romsey, which is all off-road). RomseyKeith
  • Score: 0

11:32am Mon 28 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

I'm not sure I would want to be a urination observer – do they get training in stealth or are they just natural creepers?
I'm not sure I would want to be a urination observer – do they get training in stealth or are they just natural creepers? good-gosh
  • Score: 0

12:26pm Mon 28 Apr 14

country bird says...

disgusting, especially in front of families.
disgusting, especially in front of families. country bird
  • Score: -1

2:10pm Mon 28 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

good-gosh wrote:
I'm not sure I would want to be a urination observer – do they get training in stealth or are they just natural creepers?
You could always ask Jeffy/Torchie/Inform
er, they always talk a lot of urine they must observe it quite closely to know so much about it.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure I would want to be a urination observer – do they get training in stealth or are they just natural creepers?[/p][/quote]You could always ask Jeffy/Torchie/Inform er, they always talk a lot of urine they must observe it quite closely to know so much about it. camerajuan
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Mon 28 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

A lot of you of trying to defend and justify this behaviour, as a cyclist I'm disgusted by it,

Yes I get caught short but will cycle to a remote part and hide behind a tree,

If they had done it In front of my kids there would of been a big arguement over it. I would of reported them myself.
A lot of you of trying to defend and justify this behaviour, as a cyclist I'm disgusted by it, Yes I get caught short but will cycle to a remote part and hide behind a tree, If they had done it In front of my kids there would of been a big arguement over it. I would of reported them myself. southamptonadi
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Mon 28 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
I must say that is also quite a narrow minded view, Is is just nazi cyclists you want banned or are all cyclists nazi's and they should all be banned
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]I must say that is also quite a narrow minded view, Is is just nazi cyclists you want banned or are all cyclists nazi's and they should all be banned southamptonadi
  • Score: 6

4:17pm Mon 28 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
Why do you have a problem with Lycra? Do runners wearing Lycra offend you too?

Do you also get upset when someone wears a football top especially if they are even playing.?

Yet again your also being narrow minded by presuming A) he is middle aged and B) he wears Lycra and C) he has mates. Your just basing all your presumptions on a stereotype and not an actual person
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]Why do you have a problem with Lycra? Do runners wearing Lycra offend you too? Do you also get upset when someone wears a football top especially if they are even playing.? Yet again your also being narrow minded by presuming A) he is middle aged and B) he wears Lycra and C) he has mates. Your just basing all your presumptions on a stereotype and not an actual person southamptonadi
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

southamptonadi wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
Why do you have a problem with Lycra? Do runners wearing Lycra offend you too?

Do you also get upset when someone wears a football top especially if they are even playing.?

Yet again your also being narrow minded by presuming A) he is middle aged and B) he wears Lycra and C) he has mates. Your just basing all your presumptions on a stereotype and not an actual person
Odd stereotype to fit into as most cyclists are nowhere near middle aged!

Nothing wrong with Lycra, provided you have the body to fit into it nicely - which if you have the stamina to complete a sportive or ride such as this one, you will.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]Why do you have a problem with Lycra? Do runners wearing Lycra offend you too? Do you also get upset when someone wears a football top especially if they are even playing.? Yet again your also being narrow minded by presuming A) he is middle aged and B) he wears Lycra and C) he has mates. Your just basing all your presumptions on a stereotype and not an actual person[/p][/quote]Odd stereotype to fit into as most cyclists are nowhere near middle aged! Nothing wrong with Lycra, provided you have the body to fit into it nicely - which if you have the stamina to complete a sportive or ride such as this one, you will. camerajuan
  • Score: 4

6:32pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

geoff51 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Esteban09 wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society.
They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.
You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.
I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums.
I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.
No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier.

Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.
A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them.
I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified
Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.
In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion.
Err... No I don't.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Esteban09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: To little too late, These Nazi Cyclists who ride roughshod over the rules of the road and common good manners should be banned from the road and polite society. They are not welcome in the New Forest, when will they realise that every stupid thing they do makes them less acceptable and gives their races a bad name.[/p][/quote]You urgently need help Mr Angry Man. Go and have a little think about your life.[/p][/quote]I am not angry, I am just fed up of the attitude of these arrogant cyclists who overrun the forest and abuse all those who dare to get in their way or disagree with their narrow minded approach on these forums. I dont need to think about my life, I am happy with it and have no need to dress up in ludicrous Lycra to assuage my mid life crisis, unlike you and your mamil mates.[/p][/quote]No happy, rational person would compare cyclists to Nazis. That is so offensive I really don't know where to start. If you are a resident of the forest you should have more respect for the role this area played in defeating the Nazis and not fling the term around indiscriminately as a proxy for anything you don't agree with. Be kinder, more tolerant and try not to stereotype. It will make you happier. Nowhere did I say I was a cyclist by the way, you've just made that assumption. As someone born and bred in the New Forest I am ashamed at the ridiculous hysteria generated by people like you founded on nothing but impatience, paranoia and anecdotes. It makes us all look like childish idiots.[/p][/quote]A Nazi is someone who tries to force there point of view and belief on others by force and intimidation, A description that well fits the Wiggle racers who take over the forest without any respect for other users and the threatening attitude of the likes of Ginger, Downfader, Cameraone Forest resident and Simmons etc to those who dare to disagree with them. I therefore believe that the use of this word fits exactly with these types and is justified[/p][/quote]Since when have I ever made threats Geoffry? You're so deluded that you're now making things up as you go.[/p][/quote]In every boring post you put up you will try to verbally threaten those who disagree with your narrow opinion.[/p][/quote]Err... No I don't. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

6:35pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

southamptonadi wrote:
A lot of you of trying to defend and justify this behaviour, as a cyclist I'm disgusted by it,

Yes I get caught short but will cycle to a remote part and hide behind a tree,

If they had done it In front of my kids there would of been a big arguement over it. I would of reported them myself.
I must agree, at least make an observable effort to try and stay out of view.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: A lot of you of trying to defend and justify this behaviour, as a cyclist I'm disgusted by it, Yes I get caught short but will cycle to a remote part and hide behind a tree, If they had done it In front of my kids there would of been a big arguement over it. I would of reported them myself.[/p][/quote]I must agree, at least make an observable effort to try and stay out of view. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

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