VIDEO: TV naturalist Chris Packham quizzed by police after confrontation with armed hunters

Daily Echo: VIDEO: TV naturisat Chris Packham quizzed by police after confrontation with armed hunters VIDEO: TV naturisat Chris Packham quizzed by police after confrontation with armed hunters

HAMPSHIRE naturalist Chris Packham was questioned by police officers after an angry confrontation with armed hunters.

Mr Packham has spent the past week on the Mediterranean island of Malta, highlighting the plight of migrant birds which are shot in their thousands by hunters.

He has been taking video footage, and posted video footage of a heated exchange with hunters during which they repeatedly demanded that he stop filming.

Mr Packham, who lives in Southampton and presents the BBC's Springwatch, was called in for questioning by Maltese police yesterday.

He said it was because lawyers from the hunters' federation FKNK asked police to investigate an alleged privacy breach and defamation.

Although he said he was threatened with arrest if he released a statement to the police, he was released after five hours of questioning.

He said afterwards: “I did everything I could to be cooperative with the police.”

Packham says as many as 10,500 hunters armed with shotguns gather on the island every year for a three-week shooting season as migrant birds return to the UK from North Africa.

Among the birds that travel back to the UK and northern Europe via Malta are barn swallows, cuckoos, marsh and pallid harriers, kestrels, ospreys and grey herons.

Chris and a team of fellow environmentalists have put together five video diary entries on the hunting and their confrontations with the hunters, which are available on YouTube.

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10:23am Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

I don't care what anyone says, Chris Packham is in danger of becoming a good role model.
Again I heard him on Radio 4 a couple of days ago when he was in Malta & I gotta say that if all celebrity types were as passionate about stuff like this as he obviously is, then they wouldn't all come across so shallow, greedy & full of self importance as they seem to do.
Well Mr Packham sir, you are a credit to your cause.
I don't care what anyone says, Chris Packham is in danger of becoming a good role model. Again I heard him on Radio 4 a couple of days ago when he was in Malta & I gotta say that if all celebrity types were as passionate about stuff like this as he obviously is, then they wouldn't all come across so shallow, greedy & full of self importance as they seem to do. Well Mr Packham sir, you are a credit to your cause. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 67

10:36am Sun 27 Apr 14

KSO16R says...

Yes souljacker 100% with you. Good on you mr Pakham.
Yes souljacker 100% with you. Good on you mr Pakham. KSO16R
  • Score: 26

10:46am Sun 27 Apr 14

10 Minute Man says...

Man pushing his face into Chris' shouting "you are provocating me" as he tries to disrupt the tradition of shooting tiny birds at close range. Seems like the equivalent of fishing with dynamite.

How to do you make a Maltese Cross....
Man pushing his face into Chris' shouting "you are provocating me" as he tries to disrupt the tradition of shooting tiny birds at close range. Seems like the equivalent of fishing with dynamite. How to do you make a Maltese Cross.... 10 Minute Man
  • Score: 14

10:48am Sun 27 Apr 14

exforester says...

Glad to see DE has changed the headline from Naturist to Naturalist!!

Well done for your actions Mr Packham :-)
Glad to see DE has changed the headline from Naturist to Naturalist!! Well done for your actions Mr Packham :-) exforester
  • Score: 17

11:30am Sun 27 Apr 14

southy says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
Man pushing his face into Chris' shouting "you are provocating me" as he tries to disrupt the tradition of shooting tiny birds at close range. Seems like the equivalent of fishing with dynamite.

How to do you make a Maltese Cross....
stamp on his feet
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: Man pushing his face into Chris' shouting "you are provocating me" as he tries to disrupt the tradition of shooting tiny birds at close range. Seems like the equivalent of fishing with dynamite. How to do you make a Maltese Cross....[/p][/quote]stamp on his feet southy
  • Score: 15

11:41am Sun 27 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

How do you make a Maltese Cross? Give him the ball in space on the wing and get your big men in the Penalty area.
How do you make a Maltese Cross? Give him the ball in space on the wing and get your big men in the Penalty area. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

11:48am Sun 27 Apr 14

derek james says...

if tourists boycotted malta just for a year they'd soon stop it
if tourists boycotted malta just for a year they'd soon stop it derek james
  • Score: 17

11:48am Sun 27 Apr 14

TwinkleMama says...

Chris, keep it up. You are totally in the right.
Chris, keep it up. You are totally in the right. TwinkleMama
  • Score: 22

12:15pm Sun 27 Apr 14

itsnotjustice says...

Have to admit i didnt really know a lot about chris untill i watched this.... well done for standing upto them.... shame he cant get them charged with threatening behaviour .
Have to admit i didnt really know a lot about chris untill i watched this.... well done for standing upto them.... shame he cant get them charged with threatening behaviour . itsnotjustice
  • Score: 17

12:49pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mr Packham should be an inspiration to us all.
Mr Packham should be an inspiration to us all. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 16

1:45pm Sun 27 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds? issacchunt
  • Score: -30

1:55pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 17

2:18pm Sun 27 Apr 14

ItchenBridger says...

Don't go to Malta bird-spotting. I did and saw one bird in a week.
I also saw lime traps and shooters hides.
I don't go anywhere near Malta. I advise tourists to give it a miss!
Don't go to Malta bird-spotting. I did and saw one bird in a week. I also saw lime traps and shooters hides. I don't go anywhere near Malta. I advise tourists to give it a miss! ItchenBridger
  • Score: 17

2:18pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

Chris is a passionate Naturalist and I'm surprised people haven't heard of him,
he has a BBC TV program about Nature called Spring watch with Kate Humble and others including Bill Oddy and for a couple of years they have done Winter watch, those who love Natures wild life creatures don't miss it it's brilliant.

The Echo had an article on here a couple of weeks ago that Chris was about to set out on this mission, I commented in the Echo that because of culture differences he would have to be very careful meaning confrontations will happen and it has.
In this clip with the loud mouthed abusive man who was a law within himself with no respect for humans he did not appear to be a Maltese, he sounded like Eastern European possibly Russian and we all know from the TV News about the recent disturbance in Ukraine how Russians do dictate and take the Laws into there own hands, they can be nasty it's in there nature, hit first and ask questions.afterwards
.

I do not know how far and to what Countries Chris intends to explore but he will have more problems from the Natives of Spain, Portugal, Greece and the Islands because they all think they are not doing any harm by killing the wild Birds it's there nature, it's what they have been taught from Childhood, I was on holiday in Corfu and in the window in a very small Cage was Great Tit, what ignorants!!!

Chris will have a thankless task convincing other nations to stop killing the wild Birds even if he goes to the very top by way of a President or Prime Minster, they may never stop the senseless killing of these beautiful colourful creatures in there Country for fear of riots and retributions so good luck Chris you'll certainly need it ridiculous as it may sound for carrying out a worthwhile mission to save the wild creatures on this earth.
Chris is a passionate Naturalist and I'm surprised people haven't heard of him, he has a BBC TV program about Nature called Spring watch with Kate Humble and others including Bill Oddy and for a couple of years they have done Winter watch, those who love Natures wild life creatures don't miss it it's brilliant. The Echo had an article on here a couple of weeks ago that Chris was about to set out on this mission, I commented in the Echo that because of culture differences he would have to be very careful meaning confrontations will happen and it has. In this clip with the loud mouthed abusive man who was a law within himself with no respect for humans he did not appear to be a Maltese, he sounded like Eastern European possibly Russian and we all know from the TV News about the recent disturbance in Ukraine how Russians do dictate and take the Laws into there own hands, they can be nasty it's in there nature, hit first and ask questions.afterwards . I do not know how far and to what Countries Chris intends to explore but he will have more problems from the Natives of Spain, Portugal, Greece and the Islands because they all think they are not doing any harm by killing the wild Birds it's there nature, it's what they have been taught from Childhood, I was on holiday in Corfu and in the window in a very small Cage was Great Tit, what ignorants!!! Chris will have a thankless task convincing other nations to stop killing the wild Birds even if he goes to the very top by way of a President or Prime Minster, they may never stop the senseless killing of these beautiful colourful creatures in there Country for fear of riots and retributions so good luck Chris you'll certainly need it ridiculous as it may sound for carrying out a worthwhile mission to save the wild creatures on this earth. Malcombe
  • Score: 8

2:50pm Sun 27 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him.

He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.[/p][/quote]In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him. He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation. issacchunt
  • Score: -14

2:56pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

issacchunt wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him.

He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.
He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what?
As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat?
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.[/p][/quote]In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him. He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.[/p][/quote]He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what? As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 14

3:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

No sooner had I finished and sent my comments I went on the BBC web site and it's headline news Chris has returned to Hampshire, I do not know if he's completed his mission or he decided to come home for his own safety after receiving good advice, if he wants to do it again he'll need a body guard that's for sure, I get the impression issachunt doesn't like Chris Packham proof you can only please some of the people some of the time that's life!!
No sooner had I finished and sent my comments I went on the BBC web site and it's headline news Chris has returned to Hampshire, I do not know if he's completed his mission or he decided to come home for his own safety after receiving good advice, if he wants to do it again he'll need a body guard that's for sure, I get the impression issachunt doesn't like Chris Packham proof you can only please some of the people some of the time that's life!! Malcombe
  • Score: 7

3:11pm Sun 27 Apr 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Malcombe wrote:
Chris is a passionate Naturalist and I'm surprised people haven't heard of him,
he has a BBC TV program about Nature called Spring watch with Kate Humble and others including Bill Oddy and for a couple of years they have done Winter watch, those who love Natures wild life creatures don't miss it it's brilliant.

The Echo had an article on here a couple of weeks ago that Chris was about to set out on this mission, I commented in the Echo that because of culture differences he would have to be very careful meaning confrontations will happen and it has.
In this clip with the loud mouthed abusive man who was a law within himself with no respect for humans he did not appear to be a Maltese, he sounded like Eastern European possibly Russian and we all know from the TV News about the recent disturbance in Ukraine how Russians do dictate and take the Laws into there own hands, they can be nasty it's in there nature, hit first and ask questions.afterwards

.

I do not know how far and to what Countries Chris intends to explore but he will have more problems from the Natives of Spain, Portugal, Greece and the Islands because they all think they are not doing any harm by killing the wild Birds it's there nature, it's what they have been taught from Childhood, I was on holiday in Corfu and in the window in a very small Cage was Great Tit, what ignorants!!!

Chris will have a thankless task convincing other nations to stop killing the wild Birds even if he goes to the very top by way of a President or Prime Minster, they may never stop the senseless killing of these beautiful colourful creatures in there Country for fear of riots and retributions so good luck Chris you'll certainly need it ridiculous as it may sound for carrying out a worthwhile mission to save the wild creatures on this earth.
I'm here in Malta, and every morning as soon as it's light you can hear the hunters up in the hills, the locals are very cagey about what they are shooting and will tell tourists that they are hunting rabbits!

I watched the video clip provided by the DE and the main hunter in the video is definitely Maltese and speaks with his native tongue at one point...not Russian.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Chris is a passionate Naturalist and I'm surprised people haven't heard of him, he has a BBC TV program about Nature called Spring watch with Kate Humble and others including Bill Oddy and for a couple of years they have done Winter watch, those who love Natures wild life creatures don't miss it it's brilliant. The Echo had an article on here a couple of weeks ago that Chris was about to set out on this mission, I commented in the Echo that because of culture differences he would have to be very careful meaning confrontations will happen and it has. In this clip with the loud mouthed abusive man who was a law within himself with no respect for humans he did not appear to be a Maltese, he sounded like Eastern European possibly Russian and we all know from the TV News about the recent disturbance in Ukraine how Russians do dictate and take the Laws into there own hands, they can be nasty it's in there nature, hit first and ask questions.afterwards . I do not know how far and to what Countries Chris intends to explore but he will have more problems from the Natives of Spain, Portugal, Greece and the Islands because they all think they are not doing any harm by killing the wild Birds it's there nature, it's what they have been taught from Childhood, I was on holiday in Corfu and in the window in a very small Cage was Great Tit, what ignorants!!! Chris will have a thankless task convincing other nations to stop killing the wild Birds even if he goes to the very top by way of a President or Prime Minster, they may never stop the senseless killing of these beautiful colourful creatures in there Country for fear of riots and retributions so good luck Chris you'll certainly need it ridiculous as it may sound for carrying out a worthwhile mission to save the wild creatures on this earth.[/p][/quote]I'm here in Malta, and every morning as soon as it's light you can hear the hunters up in the hills, the locals are very cagey about what they are shooting and will tell tourists that they are hunting rabbits! I watched the video clip provided by the DE and the main hunter in the video is definitely Maltese and speaks with his native tongue at one point...not Russian. 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 9

3:52pm Sun 27 Apr 14

teslpl says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Say Issacchunt fast,get the message?
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Say Issacchunt fast,get the message? teslpl
  • Score: 6

4:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

chris packham nearly went bankrupt a while back and now just wants to try to grab the limelight where ever possible by using animals
what a to!!!!!er
chris packham nearly went bankrupt a while back and now just wants to try to grab the limelight where ever possible by using animals what a to!!!!!er mickey01
  • Score: -17

4:40pm Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Then again he could just be a complete 'Peckersnot' like you couldn't he.
What have you ever done in life apart than live up to your namesake?
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Then again he could just be a complete 'Peckersnot' like you couldn't he. What have you ever done in life apart than live up to your namesake? SOULJACKER
  • Score: 8

4:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

MisterGrimsdale says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you?
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you? MisterGrimsdale
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

itsnotjustice wrote:
Have to admit i didnt really know a lot about chris untill i watched this.... well done for standing upto them.... shame he cant get them charged with threatening behaviour .
The guy is a complete icon in my eyes.
When I was at 'Bitterne park school', he came to the school, gave a talk & we used to go out tidying up old ponds etc... for the wildlife & though it seemed boring as hell at the time, now I am older I can see what good it did.
Like I said before, well done Chris you are an inspiration to us all & please keep fighting your corner, you are making a difference :)
[quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: Have to admit i didnt really know a lot about chris untill i watched this.... well done for standing upto them.... shame he cant get them charged with threatening behaviour .[/p][/quote]The guy is a complete icon in my eyes. When I was at 'Bitterne park school', he came to the school, gave a talk & we used to go out tidying up old ponds etc... for the wildlife & though it seemed boring as hell at the time, now I am older I can see what good it did. Like I said before, well done Chris you are an inspiration to us all & please keep fighting your corner, you are making a difference :) SOULJACKER
  • Score: 11

4:52pm Sun 27 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave.

usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment.

'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.
I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave. usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment. 'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents. issacchunt
  • Score: -4

4:53pm Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him.

He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.
He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what?
As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat?
Good for you Ginger, Isaac is obviously trying to wind us up & get some much needed attention (poor dear).
Would he like it if they were shacked up in his back yard & shooting birds, NO probably not, so what difference does the destination make......they are birds, leave them be.
What good does it do to the planet, nothing!
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.[/p][/quote]In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him. He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.[/p][/quote]He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what? As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat?[/p][/quote]Good for you Ginger, Isaac is obviously trying to wind us up & get some much needed attention (poor dear). Would he like it if they were shacked up in his back yard & shooting birds, NO probably not, so what difference does the destination make......they are birds, leave them be. What good does it do to the planet, nothing! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Sun 27 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you?
How is not being able to fly a 'normal life' to a bird?
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you?[/p][/quote]How is not being able to fly a 'normal life' to a bird? issacchunt
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him.

He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.
He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what?
As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat?
Good for you Ginger, Isaac is obviously trying to wind us up & get some much needed attention (poor dear).
Would he like it if they were shacked up in his back yard & shooting birds, NO probably not, so what difference does the destination make......they are birds, leave them be.
What good does it do to the planet, nothing!
Exactly.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.[/p][/quote]In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him. He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.[/p][/quote]He wasn't interfering though, he was DOCUMENTING it and if wanting to protect the planet makes you a nutter, then yeah, me and him are nutters, so what? As for zoos and stuff, at the rate we're killing the planet, the only animals left on the planet will be those in captivity or being bred for food, which would you prefer? To at least have animals on the planet no matter what or have a planet that only has us and the animals we eat?[/p][/quote]Good for you Ginger, Isaac is obviously trying to wind us up & get some much needed attention (poor dear). Would he like it if they were shacked up in his back yard & shooting birds, NO probably not, so what difference does the destination make......they are birds, leave them be. What good does it do to the planet, nothing![/p][/quote]Exactly. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

issacchunt wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you?
How is not being able to fly a 'normal life' to a bird?
But birds in zoos ARE able to fly, unless they're naturally flightless, even then they're kept in very large, sometimes warehouse sized aviaries that have plenty of room to fly around in.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Maybe that's because birds in cages (aviaries) in zoos are well fed, well looked after and have enough room to live a normal life, and the last time I looked the zookeepers weren't taking aim at them with shotguns. DOes that makes sense to you?[/p][/quote]How is not being able to fly a 'normal life' to a bird?[/p][/quote]But birds in zoos ARE able to fly, unless they're naturally flightless, even then they're kept in very large, sometimes warehouse sized aviaries that have plenty of room to fly around in. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 6

5:00pm Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

issacchunt wrote:
I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave.

usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment.

'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.
As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about!
Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess.
Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you).
You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave. usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment. 'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about! Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess. Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you). You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 7

5:02pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave.

usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment.

'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.
As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about!
Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess.
Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you).
You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.
How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks?
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave. usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment. 'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about! Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess. Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you). You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.[/p][/quote]How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

5:15pm Sun 27 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave.

usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment.

'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.
As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about!
Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess.
Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you).
You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.
How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks?
I really don't even wanna go down that mucky road.........
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave. usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment. 'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about! Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess. Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you). You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.[/p][/quote]How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks?[/p][/quote]I really don't even wanna go down that mucky road......... SOULJACKER
  • Score: 3

5:16pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave.

usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment.

'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.
As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about!
Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess.
Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you).
You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.
How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks?
I really don't even wanna go down that mucky road.........
To be honest, neither do I.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: I think most birds would rather take a chance with the shotgun, could you actually imagine being able to fly and be caged. Just think about that for a moment a really see what sort of reply you gave. usually prison is for wrongdoer's and not birds of flight. does that make any sense to you? It will to most people but most people will agree and not comment. 'TESLPL', I just said it quick and I'm disgusted. Never noticed and I blame the parents.[/p][/quote]As usual, I don't know what in the hell you are babbling on about! Birds in cages isn't ideal & nobody is saying that it is, but you could say the same for any 'pet' I guess. Chris is out there fighting their corner & has been for years & years, not sat behind his PC 'Trolling' like some of us (you). You just turn up to annoy people really, don't you.[/p][/quote]How else do you think issacchunt gets off and gets his kicks?[/p][/quote]I really don't even wanna go down that mucky road.........[/p][/quote]To be honest, neither do I. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Sun 27 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

I say to ISSACHUNT go get a life & come up with some constructive criticism,
Chris Packham is the man behind man Birdwatch & many others a conservationist at it's best 100% I rate him against our Old Jack Hargreves another great, I can see now why you Mr have camaflaged your name, disgraceful animal, why let these wind up posted comments come through
I say to ISSACHUNT go get a life & come up with some constructive criticism, Chris Packham is the man behind man Birdwatch & many others a conservationist at it's best 100% I rate him against our Old Jack Hargreves another great, I can see now why you Mr have camaflaged your name, disgraceful animal, why let these wind up posted comments come through bobby the crane
  • Score: 5

5:58pm Sun 27 Apr 14

KSO16R says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
This poster tries to justify rape!
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]This poster tries to justify rape! KSO16R
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Wherearealloursongbirdsgone? says...

What a shame they didn't jail him!

He has been the main force in this country promoting the introduction of raptors.

Then we are told by the RSPB that we are losing all our British song birds and blame is apportioned to farmers and the way we keep our gardens, anyone but themselves.

As you drive around our countryside we see nothing but hawks, peregrines and other predatory birds. .........they've all got to eat.

THAT IS WHERE ALL OUR BIRDS HAVE GONE!!

Our skies have been manipulated in the recent years to such an extent that an imbalance has now been created.

Chris Packham is guilty of courting celebrity at the cost of our songbird population.

SHAME ON HIM!
What a shame they didn't jail him! He has been the main force in this country promoting the introduction of raptors. Then we are told by the RSPB that we are losing all our British song birds and blame is apportioned to farmers and the way we keep our gardens, anyone but themselves. As you drive around our countryside we see nothing but hawks, peregrines and other predatory birds. .........they've all got to eat. THAT IS WHERE ALL OUR BIRDS HAVE GONE!! Our skies have been manipulated in the recent years to such an extent that an imbalance has now been created. Chris Packham is guilty of courting celebrity at the cost of our songbird population. SHAME ON HIM! Wherearealloursongbirdsgone?
  • Score: -5

6:54pm Sun 27 Apr 14

wilson castaway says...

Well done Chris.Met you many times and you have always been courteous and friendly.Any kind of creature cruelty in the name of sport sickens me.
Well done Chris.Met you many times and you have always been courteous and friendly.Any kind of creature cruelty in the name of sport sickens me. wilson castaway
  • Score: 4

7:00pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

wilson castaway wrote:
Well done Chris.Met you many times and you have always been courteous and friendly.Any kind of creature cruelty in the name of sport sickens me.
Is catch and release fishing included in that statement? Even though fishing is a big part of keeping an eye on fish health and population?
[quote][p][bold]wilson castaway[/bold] wrote: Well done Chris.Met you many times and you have always been courteous and friendly.Any kind of creature cruelty in the name of sport sickens me.[/p][/quote]Is catch and release fishing included in that statement? Even though fishing is a big part of keeping an eye on fish health and population? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

7:15pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

Well done Chris! Showing the real Southampton grit and standing up for a cause that we all believe in. On the same theme, anyone wanting to see more Southampton grit should read "The Sea Inside" by Philip Hoare, another Southampton boy. 2013 Harper Collins ISBN 978 000 7412112. You can buy it cheaply on Amazon, and its an excellent read. Good luck to both Chris Packham and Philip Hoare!
Well done Chris! Showing the real Southampton grit and standing up for a cause that we all believe in. On the same theme, anyone wanting to see more Southampton grit should read "The Sea Inside" by Philip Hoare, another Southampton boy. 2013 Harper Collins ISBN 978 000 7412112. You can buy it cheaply on Amazon, and its an excellent read. Good luck to both Chris Packham and Philip Hoare! Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 3

7:21pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

Wherearealloursongbi
rdsgone?
wrote:
What a shame they didn't jail him!

He has been the main force in this country promoting the introduction of raptors.

Then we are told by the RSPB that we are losing all our British song birds and blame is apportioned to farmers and the way we keep our gardens, anyone but themselves.

As you drive around our countryside we see nothing but hawks, peregrines and other predatory birds. .........they've all got to eat.

THAT IS WHERE ALL OUR BIRDS HAVE GONE!!

Our skies have been manipulated in the recent years to such an extent that an imbalance has now been created.

Chris Packham is guilty of courting celebrity at the cost of our songbird population.

SHAME ON HIM!
Chris Packham has had absolutely nothing to do with the decline in songbird population which is largely due to loss of habitat. Any imbalance in the species of birds which you allude to, will no doubt readjust itself in the next few years. I think however you should withdraw your statement "...What a shame they didn't jail him!", as it is unwarranted and detracts from your argument.
[quote][p][bold]Wherearealloursongbi rdsgone?[/bold] wrote: What a shame they didn't jail him! He has been the main force in this country promoting the introduction of raptors. Then we are told by the RSPB that we are losing all our British song birds and blame is apportioned to farmers and the way we keep our gardens, anyone but themselves. As you drive around our countryside we see nothing but hawks, peregrines and other predatory birds. .........they've all got to eat. THAT IS WHERE ALL OUR BIRDS HAVE GONE!! Our skies have been manipulated in the recent years to such an extent that an imbalance has now been created. Chris Packham is guilty of courting celebrity at the cost of our songbird population. SHAME ON HIM![/p][/quote]Chris Packham has had absolutely nothing to do with the decline in songbird population which is largely due to loss of habitat. Any imbalance in the species of birds which you allude to, will no doubt readjust itself in the next few years. I think however you should withdraw your statement "...What a shame they didn't jail him!", as it is unwarranted and detracts from your argument. Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
Yes issacchunt, I see where you are coming from I think. It is a little like a human, being privileged at birth with a brain, and for the rest of his life never using it.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]Yes issacchunt, I see where you are coming from I think. It is a little like a human, being privileged at birth with a brain, and for the rest of his life never using it. Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 5

7:40pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Wherearealloursongbirdsgone? says...

Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years .
Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril.
The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change.

It could get worse!

A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda.

The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.
Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years . Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril. The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change. It could get worse! A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda. The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them. Wherearealloursongbirdsgone?
  • Score: -5

7:53pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Wherearealloursongbi
rdsgone?
wrote:
Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years .
Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril.
The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change.

It could get worse!

A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda.

The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.
Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around.
[quote][p][bold]Wherearealloursongbi rdsgone?[/bold] wrote: Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years . Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril. The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change. It could get worse! A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda. The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.[/p][/quote]Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

7:55pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Wherearealloursongbirdsgone? says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Wherearealloursongbi

rdsgone?
wrote:
Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years .
Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril.
The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change.

It could get worse!

A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda.

The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.
Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around.
I should make the most of it.......it's not going to last. ..
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wherearealloursongbi rdsgone?[/bold] wrote: Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years . Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril. The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change. It could get worse! A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda. The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.[/p][/quote]Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around.[/p][/quote]I should make the most of it.......it's not going to last. .. Wherearealloursongbirdsgone?
  • Score: 0

9:34pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Wherearealloursongbi
rdsgone?
wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Wherearealloursongbi


rdsgone?
wrote:
Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years .
Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril.
The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change.

It could get worse!

A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda.

The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.
Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around.
I should make the most of it.......it's not going to last. ..
Not at the rate that we humans are destroying the habitats of wild animals, no, it won't last.
[quote][p][bold]Wherearealloursongbi rdsgone?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wherearealloursongbi rdsgone?[/bold] wrote: Raptors are protected vigorously by Natural England under threat from legal action from the RSPB. They are at the top of food chain. Their numbers have been INCREASING MANY FOLD in recent years . Even our airports when they have problems with large raptors which might well be a dangerous problem to aircraft have to wait DAYS for a licence to kill raptors. This could put many lives in peril. The proof is in the pudding, whilst the numbers of raptors have been increasing, our song bird population has been decreasing. There is no indication that this is going to change. It could get worse! A few years ago the farmers in the North asked the govt to investigate the perceived change in hunting habits of the buzzard. The govt agreed to fund this but withdrew the funding after direct intervention from the RSPB. They are so cash rich they challenge the authority of our own govt! It's disgraceful and people like Chris Packham act as front men for them and promote their propaganda. The bird population of this country would be better off without the likes of them.[/p][/quote]Most rural song bird populations nest in hedgerows, a habitat that has gotten rare over the years, cutting hedgerows back too far can also mean creatures that live there will leave, never to return, old farm buildings are also, often home to song birds yet such buildings are constantly demolished, however, some areas, such as Thornhill, have surprisingly high numbers of song birds, I quite regularly look out of my bedroom window and see several species, such as a number of tits, starlings, robin's and other song birds, in just one tree, with others perching in the other trees, I also see many woodpeckers, no raptors though, despite the small parcels of heathland and long grass(where their favourite prey of small rodents like to live) dotted around.[/p][/quote]I should make the most of it.......it's not going to last. ..[/p][/quote]Not at the rate that we humans are destroying the habitats of wild animals, no, it won't last. Ginger_cyclist
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12:24am Mon 28 Apr 14

Poppy22 says...

The point about the Malta trip (by at least several British organisations and key British naturalists) is that Malta is on the migratory route and birds have to stop there on their way to places like here, and Malta has a permitted Spring shoot to shoot the birds (with some rules in place, but those rules are ignored).
Many bird species have declined (by up to 95%) in recent years and the aim is to stop the shooting so that bird species can recover.
Funny how Brussels lets this happen, though, when they have so much control over what does and doesn't happen here!
On the subject of predatory birds, we have untouched fields, trees and hedgerows very near us (though not for more than a year or two as Eastleigh Council will be building hundreds of houses on the sites imminently, apart from the bits where the land isn't possible to built on due to bogginess or conservation areas...!). We have all types of birds including song birds and birds of prey. We haven't seen the birds of prey kill any of the song birds (which we hear very close by every year), just the mice/similar (and the rats whose numbes have increased dramatically since fortnightly black bin collections!).
It's almost always humans who kill the wildlife and when, in the not-too-distant future, people's children/grandchildr
en have to eat "food" grown in sterilised indoor sites from seeds controlled by the likes of huge corporations like Monsanto, someone might just regret getting rid of the countryside and killing off the birds and the bees, Just glad I won't be around then!
The point about the Malta trip (by at least several British organisations and key British naturalists) is that Malta is on the migratory route and birds have to stop there on their way to places like here, and Malta has a permitted Spring shoot to shoot the birds (with some rules in place, but those rules are ignored). Many bird species have declined (by up to 95%) in recent years and the aim is to stop the shooting so that bird species can recover. Funny how Brussels lets this happen, though, when they have so much control over what does and doesn't happen here! On the subject of predatory birds, we have untouched fields, trees and hedgerows very near us (though not for more than a year or two as Eastleigh Council will be building hundreds of houses on the sites imminently, apart from the bits where the land isn't possible to built on due to bogginess or conservation areas...!). We have all types of birds including song birds and birds of prey. We haven't seen the birds of prey kill any of the song birds (which we hear very close by every year), just the mice/similar (and the rats whose numbes have increased dramatically since fortnightly black bin collections!). It's almost always humans who kill the wildlife and when, in the not-too-distant future, people's children/grandchildr en have to eat "food" grown in sterilised indoor sites from seeds controlled by the likes of huge corporations like Monsanto, someone might just regret getting rid of the countryside and killing off the birds and the bees, Just glad I won't be around then! Poppy22
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7:52am Mon 28 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

issacchunt wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
issacchunt wrote:
The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?
He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.
In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him.

He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.
Only the truly cretinous could turn THIS STORY into a soapbox for their xenophobia.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: The man is a dangerous nutter, mad as a bag of frogs. Why go abroad and stick your nose in others business. You never see him at zoo's kicking off about caged birds?[/p][/quote]He was on PUBLIC land, he went for a walk on PUBLIC land, therefore, he was NOT sticking his nose in anyone's business because it was on PUBLIC land.[/p][/quote]In a foriegn country where he is a foreigner, unlike here not all people in foriegn countries like to let foriegners interfere in their way of life. Capitals or not he's a nutter and having read many of your posts I see you have a lot in common with him. He'll enjoy the 'ker-ching' of selling this story when he can so suckers can sympathise with him. So many wrongs in this country and he goes to Malta rather than do something about caged animals being taken from the wild in the name of conservation.[/p][/quote]Only the truly cretinous could turn THIS STORY into a soapbox for their xenophobia. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 3

11:18am Mon 28 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

Does Chwis have any science to back up his protests, or is this just sentimental bunny-hugging nonsense?
Does Chwis have any science to back up his protests, or is this just sentimental bunny-hugging nonsense? From the sidelines
  • Score: -1

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