Woman evicted after her garden was used as a toilet by 'visitors'

Resident Moira has been evicted

Resident Moira has been evicted

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A SOUTHAMPTON woman who was accused of being a neighbour from hell has been booted out.

It comes after the Daily Echo reported how a mum-of-one was forced to flee her home in Woolston for the safety of her young son.

Residents living in Hazeleigh Avenue told how they were kept awake in the early hours by latenight parties and endless noise coming from the property.

One visitor to the home was even pictured, below, by neighbours defecating in the back garden.

Daily Echo:

Pilates teacher Marie-Claire Prettyman, 34, said she and her eight-year-old son were driven to despair by the neighbour and the visitors that came to her home.

It got so bad that at points she was verbally abused and she made the decision to move away from her home for safety reasons.

Now she has moved back to her home, she said: “I feel like I can now get on with my life, it is a relief to be in my home and know that nothing untoward is going to happen.

Daily Echo:

  • Marie-Claire Prettyman and her son

“The landlord has been brilliant and we had to come together as a community to deal with the situation.

“People say that community is dead, but this show’s that is not true.”

Hampshire police said they received five reports of antisocial behaviour, including noise complaints and domestic incidents, at the address since March 31.

A spokesman said a 32-year-old woman was arrested in connection with one of these, but she was released without charge.

Daily Echo:

  • Resident Moira has been evicted

The landlord of the home confirmed that the tenant, who only gave her name as “Moira”, is now out of the property.

He said: “We are very glad she has gone, especially as it will now make the area more peaceful.

“We thought at one stage that she was not going to go, but she was okay about leaving and it was good to see her leave.”

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8:09am Wed 11 Jun 14

Big Mac says...

No doubt be moved in next to some other poor soul.
No doubt be moved in next to some other poor soul. Big Mac
  • Score: 51

8:43am Wed 11 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -56

9:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

wwozzer says...

32? not only did it fall out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down it looks like she had the worlds hardest paper round.
32? not only did it fall out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down it looks like she had the worlds hardest paper round. wwozzer
  • Score: 30

9:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

excusemoi says...

There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.
There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then. excusemoi
  • Score: 43

9:18am Wed 11 Jun 14

bucktoom says...

Well she's gonna end up somewhere.
Well she's gonna end up somewhere. bucktoom
  • Score: 21

9:29am Wed 11 Jun 14

Jeff Le Taxi says...

Wwozzer where in the report does it say she's 32?
It says someone else was arrested who was 32 and released without charge.
Perhaps you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch?
Wwozzer where in the report does it say she's 32? It says someone else was arrested who was 32 and released without charge. Perhaps you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch? Jeff Le Taxi
  • Score: 0

9:34am Wed 11 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Ladbrookes is offering 100-1 on its being a woman, 5/4 on a man and evens on neither.
Ladbrookes is offering 100-1 on its being a woman, 5/4 on a man and evens on neither. Dai Rear
  • Score: 6

9:38am Wed 11 Jun 14

_watchman says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area. _watchman
  • Score: 21

9:43am Wed 11 Jun 14

Reality-man says...

coming soon to a neighbourhood near you?.........
coming soon to a neighbourhood near you?......... Reality-man
  • Score: 13

9:48am Wed 11 Jun 14

halibutjackson says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
Moira? It that you using your right to reply?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]Moira? It that you using your right to reply? halibutjackson
  • Score: 15

10:00am Wed 11 Jun 14

wwozzer says...

Jeff Le Taxi wrote:
Wwozzer where in the report does it say she's 32?
It says someone else was arrested who was 32 and released without charge.
Perhaps you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch?
Well I guess I could be wrong but I put two and two together and it looks pretty likely to be four...

You seem a bit touchy Jeff, was that you in her back garden? slow day on the rank?
[quote][p][bold]Jeff Le Taxi[/bold] wrote: Wwozzer where in the report does it say she's 32? It says someone else was arrested who was 32 and released without charge. Perhaps you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch?[/p][/quote]Well I guess I could be wrong but I put two and two together and it looks pretty likely to be four... You seem a bit touchy Jeff, was that you in her back garden? slow day on the rank? wwozzer
  • Score: 28

10:16am Wed 11 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

_watchman wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area.
what are her children doing in someone elses garden ? is she on benefits herself ? or just a better class of benefit receipient ?
[quote][p][bold]_watchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area.[/p][/quote]what are her children doing in someone elses garden ? is she on benefits herself ? or just a better class of benefit receipient ? SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -17

10:32am Wed 11 Jun 14

Woolston ollie says...

She has a face of a robbers dog, oh that probably is a robbers dog
She has a face of a robbers dog, oh that probably is a robbers dog Woolston ollie
  • Score: 5

10:35am Wed 11 Jun 14

_watchman says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
_watchman wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area.
what are her children doing in someone elses garden ? is she on benefits herself ? or just a better class of benefit receipient ?
Irrespective of being a benefit claimant or not, it is about self respect, and respect for those around you. Even someone of limited intelligence can see that this was not how any civilised community is prepared to live. I do hope your Mother finds a home soon.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]_watchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Moira will be comforted in the fact that you would share your environment with her and her luckless dog. It is not unreasonable to expect our children to live in a safe, clean and peaceful area.[/p][/quote]what are her children doing in someone elses garden ? is she on benefits herself ? or just a better class of benefit receipient ?[/p][/quote]Irrespective of being a benefit claimant or not, it is about self respect, and respect for those around you. Even someone of limited intelligence can see that this was not how any civilised community is prepared to live. I do hope your Mother finds a home soon. _watchman
  • Score: 15

11:20am Wed 11 Jun 14

Big Mac says...

Ronnie Woods goes back on the tour bus!
Ronnie Woods goes back on the tour bus! Big Mac
  • Score: 4

11:38am Wed 11 Jun 14

Hestie-Booble says...

Yrs ago I had similar neighbours to this, they lived in the flat above mine. It resulted in me being threatened by a very drunk woman holding a rather large kitchen knife after we asked them to turn the music down at 3pm as my newborn couldn't sleep. Not nice. Sad thing is some other poor bugger will end up with her as a neighbour.
Yrs ago I had similar neighbours to this, they lived in the flat above mine. It resulted in me being threatened by a very drunk woman holding a rather large kitchen knife after we asked them to turn the music down at 3pm as my newborn couldn't sleep. Not nice. Sad thing is some other poor bugger will end up with her as a neighbour. Hestie-Booble
  • Score: 8

11:48am Wed 11 Jun 14

Cyber__Fug says...

excusemoi wrote:
There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.
It's not quite an island but I believe Merseyside is a candidate ;o)
[quote][p][bold]excusemoi[/bold] wrote: There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.[/p][/quote]It's not quite an island but I believe Merseyside is a candidate ;o) Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 7

12:59pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Saintcosser says...

I feel sorry for her poor husband. That is her husband in the photos with her right?
I feel sorry for her poor husband. That is her husband in the photos with her right? Saintcosser
  • Score: 4

1:00pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

excusemoi wrote:
There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.
They have it's called Hayling Island
[quote][p][bold]excusemoi[/bold] wrote: There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.[/p][/quote]They have it's called Hayling Island Outside of the Box
  • Score: 4

1:58pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Zexagon says...

It's the dog I feel sorry for.
It's the dog I feel sorry for. Zexagon
  • Score: 11

2:09pm Wed 11 Jun 14

camerajuan says...

"Good riddance, to baaaad rubbish!"

RIP Rik Mayall! Your words are appropriate for any situation!
"Good riddance, to baaaad rubbish!" RIP Rik Mayall! Your words are appropriate for any situation! camerajuan
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Mary80 says...

If people want to treat their surroundings like cr@p and show no respect just send them to a zoo, if they wanna act like animals they should get treated as such.
If people want to treat their surroundings like cr@p and show no respect just send them to a zoo, if they wanna act like animals they should get treated as such. Mary80
  • Score: 2

2:42pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

Zexagon wrote:
It's the dog I feel sorry for.
Which one?
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: It's the dog I feel sorry for.[/p][/quote]Which one? Outside of the Box
  • Score: 8

2:47pm Wed 11 Jun 14

sparkster says...

I agree Mary80, you expect animals to go to the toilet outside, does this woman not have an indoor toilet??????????
I agree Mary80, you expect animals to go to the toilet outside, does this woman not have an indoor toilet?????????? sparkster
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Wed 11 Jun 14

wilson castaway says...

I know how it feels to have a bad neighbour.At least you can live your life now, and good luck.
I know how it feels to have a bad neighbour.At least you can live your life now, and good luck. wilson castaway
  • Score: 4

4:20pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

sparkster wrote:
I agree Mary80, you expect animals to go to the toilet outside, does this woman not have an indoor toilet??????????
Yep but she's never been able to work out whether it's the thing with the taps at the end or the one with the lifting seat. (dog tends to use the other thing, a bit higher up with more taps and the cans in it.)
[quote][p][bold]sparkster[/bold] wrote: I agree Mary80, you expect animals to go to the toilet outside, does this woman not have an indoor toilet??????????[/p][/quote]Yep but she's never been able to work out whether it's the thing with the taps at the end or the one with the lifting seat. (dog tends to use the other thing, a bit higher up with more taps and the cans in it.) Dai Rear
  • Score: -2

4:35pm Wed 11 Jun 14

normal1965 says...

hahahahaha
hahahahaha normal1965
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Hastagger says...

Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank
and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner
Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner Hastagger
  • Score: -4

5:27pm Wed 11 Jun 14

lewissv says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
excusemoi wrote:
There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.
It's not quite an island but I believe Merseyside is a candidate ;o)
What's wrong with Merseysude?
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]excusemoi[/bold] wrote: There should be a 'special' island for these kind of people to live. They can all be together then.[/p][/quote]It's not quite an island but I believe Merseyside is a candidate ;o)[/p][/quote]What's wrong with Merseysude? lewissv
  • Score: -3

5:28pm Wed 11 Jun 14

lewissv says...

*Merseyside*
*Merseyside* lewissv
  • Score: -2

5:35pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser. Inform Al
  • Score: -2

5:40pm Wed 11 Jun 14

loosehead says...

As some one made homeless the council will have to rehouse her so another poor unfortunate will have to put up with her.
Maybe they can move her next door to Inform Al?
As some one made homeless the council will have to rehouse her so another poor unfortunate will have to put up with her. Maybe they can move her next door to Inform Al? loosehead
  • Score: 5

5:50pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MisterGrimsdale says...

Ah bless - She's got a "staffie". Well I'm sure it's a lovely dog and safe to be left alone with babies.
Ah bless - She's got a "staffie". Well I'm sure it's a lovely dog and safe to be left alone with babies. MisterGrimsdale
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
As some one made homeless the council will have to rehouse her so another poor unfortunate will have to put up with her.
Maybe they can move her next door to Inform Al?
She is unlikely to be housed by the council with the dog, which is why I expect to see her living rough. I personally have no hang ups about living close to alcoholics, we do in fact have some in our flats, but no children so no real problem.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: As some one made homeless the council will have to rehouse her so another poor unfortunate will have to put up with her. Maybe they can move her next door to Inform Al?[/p][/quote]She is unlikely to be housed by the council with the dog, which is why I expect to see her living rough. I personally have no hang ups about living close to alcoholics, we do in fact have some in our flats, but no children so no real problem. Inform Al
  • Score: -5

6:24pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough. Inform Al
  • Score: 7

8:12pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Zexagon says...

Hastagger wrote:
Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank
and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner
Why don't you write her a letter,that should bowl her over
[quote][p][bold]Hastagger[/bold] wrote: Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner[/p][/quote]Why don't you write her a letter,that should bowl her over Zexagon
  • Score: 0

8:17pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Zexagon says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
At the end of the day she is a human being, I know you can't force her to better herself but she's still a human
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.[/p][/quote]At the end of the day she is a human being, I know you can't force her to better herself but she's still a human Zexagon
  • Score: -1

9:18pm Wed 11 Jun 14

loosehead says...

At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers.
She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences.
sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.
At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers. She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences. sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves. loosehead
  • Score: 5

3:41am Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics?
"Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.[/p][/quote]Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics? "Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums" Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

8:13am Thu 12 Jun 14

Hastagger says...

Zexagon wrote:
Hastagger wrote:
Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank
and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner
Why don't you write her a letter,that should bowl her over
What is this? 1992 or something? get with the times! No one writes on paper. Anyway, my #hashtags wouldn't work.

#trends
#zexagon
#quim
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hastagger[/bold] wrote: Send Moria to Portsmouth #munter #skank and send Marie-Claire to me! #littlestunner[/p][/quote]Why don't you write her a letter,that should bowl her over[/p][/quote]What is this? 1992 or something? get with the times! No one writes on paper. Anyway, my #hashtags wouldn't work. #trends #zexagon #quim Hastagger
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics?
"Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"
No, they would just beg for it.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.[/p][/quote]Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics? "Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"[/p][/quote]No, they would just beg for it. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

12:37pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers.
She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences.
sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.
And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers. She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences. sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.[/p][/quote]And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it. Inform Al
  • Score: -2

12:47pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics?
"Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"
No, they would just beg for it.
I'd say old Wurzel here could beg till Hell froze over before s/he'd get the price of a dash of Worcester Sauce. Can you type utter bo**ocks with a straight face Comrade?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.[/p][/quote]Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics? "Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"[/p][/quote]No, they would just beg for it.[/p][/quote]I'd say old Wurzel here could beg till Hell froze over before s/he'd get the price of a dash of Worcester Sauce. Can you type utter bo**ocks with a straight face Comrade? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Thu 12 Jun 14

C.R.R.A says...

Bet the dogs backside is cleaner than hers.
Bet the dogs backside is cleaner than hers. C.R.R.A
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.
Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.
Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.
Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics?
"Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"
No, they would just beg for it.
I'd say old Wurzel here could beg till Hell froze over before s/he'd get the price of a dash of Worcester Sauce. Can you type utter bo**ocks with a straight face Comrade?
Only when thinking of your posts
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: My guess is that this woman is an alcoholic, so expect to see her sleeping in the underpass opposite the YMCA with her dog. It's a pity that we are not able to help people in her situation properly, so she is now the real loser.[/p][/quote]Al, you either come off the pop, yourself, or you don't. Ain't nobody else can do it for you.[/p][/quote]Not quite true, which is why they are helped by such wonderful organisations as the two saints thing. Some people can get off addictive substances by themselves, in the same way that I gave up smoking, but most alcoholics need help, of which there is not enough.[/p][/quote]Would it help if the State stopped giving money to people for being alcoholics? "Pay people to be bums and you'll get a lot of bums"[/p][/quote]No, they would just beg for it.[/p][/quote]I'd say old Wurzel here could beg till Hell froze over before s/he'd get the price of a dash of Worcester Sauce. Can you type utter bo**ocks with a straight face Comrade?[/p][/quote]Only when thinking of your posts Inform Al
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Halo Saint says...

**** Marie-Claire you are fine !!
**** Marie-Claire you are fine !! Halo Saint
  • Score: -2

10:06pm Thu 12 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers.
She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences.
sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.
And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.
so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault?
She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance.
In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers. She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences. sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.[/p][/quote]And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.[/p][/quote]so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault? She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance. In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper? loosehead
  • Score: 0

11:25pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Rhombus says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
what the **** does any of what you just said mean? Are you as coked up as Moira appears?
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]what the **** does any of what you just said mean? Are you as coked up as Moira appears? Rhombus
  • Score: 0

5:29am Fri 13 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Rhombus wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.
what the **** does any of what you just said mean? Are you as coked up as Moira appears?
I think it's a form of grunting-the thing, apart from sponging, that the underclass does best
[quote][p][bold]Rhombus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: numptie fascist spanners strike again ,by the look of beam me up snotties face ,could have dumped in her handbag.[/p][/quote]what the **** does any of what you just said mean? Are you as coked up as Moira appears?[/p][/quote]I think it's a form of grunting-the thing, apart from sponging, that the underclass does best Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

8:16am Fri 13 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers.
She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences.
sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.
And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.
so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault?
She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance.
In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper?
Utterly unfeeling moronic response. This poor woman is probably an alcoholic, this is a medical condition for which she can have no protection apart from being given the necessary help to adapt. At no time have I blamed any political party for what is happening, but the Labour party must take some responsibility for stupidly extending the licensing hours, and the Tories for not reversing this anti social move at the first opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers. She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences. sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.[/p][/quote]And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.[/p][/quote]so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault? She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance. In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper?[/p][/quote]Utterly unfeeling moronic response. This poor woman is probably an alcoholic, this is a medical condition for which she can have no protection apart from being given the necessary help to adapt. At no time have I blamed any political party for what is happening, but the Labour party must take some responsibility for stupidly extending the licensing hours, and the Tories for not reversing this anti social move at the first opportunity. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

9:14am Fri 13 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Please avoid the "moronic" stuff. You're not in Tottenham nick now, haranguing some punter. You'll have dealt with many alcoholics and know as well as I do that it is not a pre-requisite of alcoholism to behave in anything like the way this person has. If it IS a woman, it's undoubtedly not worthy of your sympathy because s/he could behave like a human being if s/he wished. Moreover whilst you may regret the demise of the Defence of the Realm Act 1914 you may have noticed that counties which did NOT have to struggle with its nonsense for 70 years after it should have been repealed do NOT have the same levels of anti-social alcohol consumption as UK.
Please avoid the "moronic" stuff. You're not in Tottenham nick now, haranguing some punter. You'll have dealt with many alcoholics and know as well as I do that it is not a pre-requisite of alcoholism to behave in anything like the way this person has. If it IS a woman, it's undoubtedly not worthy of your sympathy because s/he could behave like a human being if s/he wished. Moreover whilst you may regret the demise of the Defence of the Realm Act 1914 you may have noticed that counties which did NOT have to struggle with its nonsense for 70 years after it should have been repealed do NOT have the same levels of anti-social alcohol consumption as UK. Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Please avoid the "moronic" stuff. You're not in Tottenham nick now, haranguing some punter. You'll have dealt with many alcoholics and know as well as I do that it is not a pre-requisite of alcoholism to behave in anything like the way this person has. If it IS a woman, it's undoubtedly not worthy of your sympathy because s/he could behave like a human being if s/he wished. Moreover whilst you may regret the demise of the Defence of the Realm Act 1914 you may have noticed that counties which did NOT have to struggle with its nonsense for 70 years after it should have been repealed do NOT have the same levels of anti-social alcohol consumption as UK.
You obviously have no knowledge of the mental illness that is alcoholism, and yes I have dealt with too many alcoholics but mostly when I did voluntary work for MIND. Victimising the victims of alcoholism goes down the same road as C'moron's using the unemployed to attack the poor.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Please avoid the "moronic" stuff. You're not in Tottenham nick now, haranguing some punter. You'll have dealt with many alcoholics and know as well as I do that it is not a pre-requisite of alcoholism to behave in anything like the way this person has. If it IS a woman, it's undoubtedly not worthy of your sympathy because s/he could behave like a human being if s/he wished. Moreover whilst you may regret the demise of the Defence of the Realm Act 1914 you may have noticed that counties which did NOT have to struggle with its nonsense for 70 years after it should have been repealed do NOT have the same levels of anti-social alcohol consumption as UK.[/p][/quote]You obviously have no knowledge of the mental illness that is alcoholism, and yes I have dealt with too many alcoholics but mostly when I did voluntary work for MIND. Victimising the victims of alcoholism goes down the same road as C'moron's using the unemployed to attack the poor. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

5:27pm Fri 13 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers.
She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences.
sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.
And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.
so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault?
She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance.
In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper?
Utterly unfeeling moronic response. This poor woman is probably an alcoholic, this is a medical condition for which she can have no protection apart from being given the necessary help to adapt. At no time have I blamed any political party for what is happening, but the Labour party must take some responsibility for stupidly extending the licensing hours, and the Tories for not reversing this anti social move at the first opportunity.
Addiction to alcohol or Drugs start with the person making the choice to take it.
Then when they're given help & offered a way out they don't take it. now if this woman is an alcoholic she can go to AA meetings or even go on Jeremy Kyle & he'll get her sent to rehab.
If she doesn't see she has a problem or doesn't care why should I & every one else care? why should we carry on providing for her & trying to help her when she won't try to help herself?
Maybe before she's given another place they insist on her going to rehab could be a starter.
Addiction is the illness not alcohol. many people drink but don't end up as addicts many take legal drugs but don't end up addicted so why only certain people?
Is it because they're weak willed & learn to depend on what ever they're taking or doing to much?
To call me names is a joke to make out this other family should feel sorry for her & put up with scum toiletting in the gardens because they can't help it is wrong.
In this world we all have choices to make & once made we face the consequences & stand up to our responsibilities some don't but that's their choice so why should the rest of us have to pay or put up with it?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day she has been given help.she had a council property she had to leave now this flat all paid for by the tax payers. She could have booked herself into Alcoholics anonymous & got help to kick the habit but instead hanged around with others who had the same habit so I do not feel sorry for her as if when offered help she declines it & abuses it she hasn't helped herself so will suffer the consequences. sooner or later the do good brigade will wake up to the fact you can't keep on wiping peoples bottoms for them & they must take responsibility themselves.[/p][/quote]And her dog of course will be looked after if she accepts the help on offer, no it will not. That is why so many of the down and outs seen begging for their booze money have a dog with them. The drying out clinics would do well if they arranged for dog lovers to look after their pets whilst they are in care, and made sure that those that need this service are made aware of it.[/p][/quote]so doesn't work,won't work gets us to pay for her habit & her dog & you think it's the Tory/coalition governments fault? She can't afford a dog so she shouldn't have one then the council will help her so again it's her decision that's left her in this circumstance. In your tinted world don't you believe in people taking responsibility for their own actions? because if you don't how the hell were you a copper?[/p][/quote]Utterly unfeeling moronic response. This poor woman is probably an alcoholic, this is a medical condition for which she can have no protection apart from being given the necessary help to adapt. At no time have I blamed any political party for what is happening, but the Labour party must take some responsibility for stupidly extending the licensing hours, and the Tories for not reversing this anti social move at the first opportunity.[/p][/quote]Addiction to alcohol or Drugs start with the person making the choice to take it. Then when they're given help & offered a way out they don't take it. now if this woman is an alcoholic she can go to AA meetings or even go on Jeremy Kyle & he'll get her sent to rehab. If she doesn't see she has a problem or doesn't care why should I & every one else care? why should we carry on providing for her & trying to help her when she won't try to help herself? Maybe before she's given another place they insist on her going to rehab could be a starter. Addiction is the illness not alcohol. many people drink but don't end up as addicts many take legal drugs but don't end up addicted so why only certain people? Is it because they're weak willed & learn to depend on what ever they're taking or doing to much? To call me names is a joke to make out this other family should feel sorry for her & put up with scum toiletting in the gardens because they can't help it is wrong. In this world we all have choices to make & once made we face the consequences & stand up to our responsibilities some don't but that's their choice so why should the rest of us have to pay or put up with it? loosehead
  • Score: 0

5:34pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views.
Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views. Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Fri 13 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views.
Dai who was this post referring to?
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views.[/p][/quote]Dai who was this post referring to? loosehead
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views.
Dai who was this post referring to?
I think it was me, but as I have again decided not to argue with a fool I'm letting it go.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Everyone's a moron except you, aren't they? Equating alcoholism with an anti-social personality is not only wrong, and insulting , but hints at a frightening mind set amongst those who volunteer for Mind. However I don't think you're that representative. I suspect your socialist bigotry has coloured your views.[/p][/quote]Dai who was this post referring to?[/p][/quote]I think it was me, but as I have again decided not to argue with a fool I'm letting it go. Inform Al
  • Score: -2

6:11am Sat 14 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Oh not a "fool" surely. Must be a "moron", as anyone who doesn't agree with you inevitably is. You must have had interesting times as a volunteer with an authoritarian personality the size of New York.
Oh not a "fool" surely. Must be a "moron", as anyone who doesn't agree with you inevitably is. You must have had interesting times as a volunteer with an authoritarian personality the size of New York. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

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