Fundraiser Kate Hack struck down with Weil's disease after event in New Forest

Daily Echo: Kate Hack Kate Hack

A FUNDRAISER has told how she suffered organ failure and almost died after taking part in a charity event at a Hampshire activities centre.

Kate Hack could not walk or talk after contracting a deadly disease she is thought to have caught from swimming in a New Forest lake.

Weil’s disease, which has killed four people in the UK since 2009, is caused by coming into contact with water polluted by animal urine.

Kate said she was one of four people who were struck down after taking part in the triathlon, which was held at the Avon Tyrrell centre near Bransgore in the New Forest on June 1 and attracted 200 entrants.

An investigation has been launched to establish if the 65-acre site was the source of the infection.

Kate felt the first symptoms ten days after the triathlon and initially thought she was suffering from a virus.

But the 31-year-old occupational therapist was rushed to hospital after she began gasping for breath and experiencing terrifying hallucinations.

She spent a week in intensive care and doctors suspect she would probably have died if she had been admitted any later.

Kate said: “I was dying without even realising it – and it was all because I was too complacent and had the ‘everything will be OK’ attitude.

“My lungs, liver and kidneys were all shutting down and so was my brain – that was the most worrying thing.

“When I got to hospital I kept seeing Darth Vader standing in the corner and faces moving in my sick bucket. I even forgot my own signature.”

Doctors warned Kate that she would take several months to recover and could have permanent scarring on her organs.

But she was discharged just a week after being admitted to hospital and is already planning her next charity challenge.

Kate, from Hull, stressed that she had no criticism of the triathlon organisers, Enduroman.

“I don’t blame them at all. They were really supportive and have been on the phone to me every day,” she said.

An Avon Tyrrell spokesman said: “We are working with the environmental health guys to try to establish if our lake was the source or not.”

An Enduroman spokesman added: “Nothing has been confirmed but everything points to Avon Tyrrell. That’s where everyone was all together.”

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5:52am Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

did the medical costs outway the money raised?
did the medical costs outway the money raised? derek james
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8:39am Wed 2 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

In its worst manifestation it is almost like the sound of its name..vile.Fortunate
ly it is rare,but it still pays to be careful if you have open cuts when going fishing or maintaining garden ponds,so it pays to slip on a pair of surgical gloves sometimes to be on the safe side.
Swimming in any pond lake or river,will always carry a risk though,as it can enter the body by other means.
In its worst manifestation it is almost like the sound of its name..vile.Fortunate ly it is rare,but it still pays to be careful if you have open cuts when going fishing or maintaining garden ponds,so it pays to slip on a pair of surgical gloves sometimes to be on the safe side. Swimming in any pond lake or river,will always carry a risk though,as it can enter the body by other means. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

8:51am Wed 2 Jul 14

Hastagger says...

derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight.

Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you!

#trends
#helmet
#derekdon't
#derekdo
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight. Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you! #trends #helmet #derekdon't #derekdo Hastagger
  • Score: 7

9:50am Wed 2 Jul 14

jonnyx says...

derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
you sound like a real humanitarian derek james. thanks for making this world just a little nicer. love you...

















(wanders off in search of a sarcasm emoji)
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]you sound like a real humanitarian derek james. thanks for making this world just a little nicer. love you... (wanders off in search of a sarcasm emoji) jonnyx
  • Score: 6

10:14am Wed 2 Jul 14

excusemoi says...

So glad she's alright now. Well done to her for all the work involved in fundraising.
So glad she's alright now. Well done to her for all the work involved in fundraising. excusemoi
  • Score: 5

10:18am Wed 2 Jul 14

andysaints007 says...

derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
IDIOT
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]IDIOT andysaints007
  • Score: 7

11:19am Wed 2 Jul 14

shirlski says...

derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'. shirlski
  • Score: 18

11:24am Wed 2 Jul 14

camerajuan says...

shirlski wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'.
I could not agree more! Just so sorry there is a censoring function on these comments so we can't actually express how we really feel.

Mr James, I don't swear too often, but you are the kind of person that encourages such words.
[quote][p][bold]shirlski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'.[/p][/quote]I could not agree more! Just so sorry there is a censoring function on these comments so we can't actually express how we really feel. Mr James, I don't swear too often, but you are the kind of person that encourages such words. camerajuan
  • Score: 9

11:43am Wed 2 Jul 14

espanuel says...

Good luck young lady. This can also happen to animals that drink from streams and this happened to our dog in 1976 when she caught Weil's disease, that year was a very dry year. I have never seen a human with the disease but seeing an animal with it is very distressing and had to be put down. So in the summer keep out of streams and lakes. The biggest problem is RATS who urinate in or around water. So beware.
Good luck young lady. This can also happen to animals that drink from streams and this happened to our dog in 1976 when she caught Weil's disease, that year was a very dry year. I have never seen a human with the disease but seeing an animal with it is very distressing and had to be put down. So in the summer keep out of streams and lakes. The biggest problem is RATS who urinate in or around water. So beware. espanuel
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12:03pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

Hastagger wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight.

Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you!

#trends
#helmet
#derekdon't
#derekdo
i think it's a relevant question it costs £255 per night to the nhs to keep someone in hospital , in this case that's £1755, it doesn't say 4 were in hospital but if they were all in it would be 7 grand.i'm not criticising anyone personally just questioning the economics of mass fundraising events where people get injured. i would suggest they take out insurance for the event.i would suggest you engage your brain before making such moronic comments
[quote][p][bold]Hastagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight. Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you! #trends #helmet #derekdon't #derekdo[/p][/quote]i think it's a relevant question it costs £255 per night to the nhs to keep someone in hospital , in this case that's £1755, it doesn't say 4 were in hospital but if they were all in it would be 7 grand.i'm not criticising anyone personally just questioning the economics of mass fundraising events where people get injured. i would suggest they take out insurance for the event.i would suggest you engage your brain before making such moronic comments derek james
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12:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

southy says...

Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem
Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem southy
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Hastagger says...

derek james wrote:
Hastagger wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight.

Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you!

#trends
#helmet
#derekdon't
#derekdo
i think it's a relevant question it costs £255 per night to the nhs to keep someone in hospital , in this case that's £1755, it doesn't say 4 were in hospital but if they were all in it would be 7 grand.i'm not criticising anyone personally just questioning the economics of mass fundraising events where people get injured. i would suggest they take out insurance for the event.i would suggest you engage your brain before making such moronic comments
Derek. You are a first class ****

I hope you catch something nasty/break something if you ever do anything for charity. Although I doubt you ever do anything like that as you seem like a selfish ****

#taxiforderek
#derekdidwhat
#derekdidnot
#dereklostthisarguem
ent
#derekwashere
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hastagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight. Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you! #trends #helmet #derekdon't #derekdo[/p][/quote]i think it's a relevant question it costs £255 per night to the nhs to keep someone in hospital , in this case that's £1755, it doesn't say 4 were in hospital but if they were all in it would be 7 grand.i'm not criticising anyone personally just questioning the economics of mass fundraising events where people get injured. i would suggest they take out insurance for the event.i would suggest you engage your brain before making such moronic comments[/p][/quote]Derek. You are a first class **** I hope you catch something nasty/break something if you ever do anything for charity. Although I doubt you ever do anything like that as you seem like a selfish **** #taxiforderek #derekdidwhat #derekdidnot #dereklostthisarguem ent #derekwashere Hastagger
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3:10pm Wed 2 Jul 14

WotMeWorry says...

southy wrote:
Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem
No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem[/p][/quote]No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem... WotMeWorry
  • Score: 1

3:34pm Wed 2 Jul 14

From the sidelines says...

derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Valid concern, Derek.

Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think.




As per.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Valid concern, Derek. Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think. As per. From the sidelines
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3:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

southy says...

WotMeWorry wrote:
southy wrote:
Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem
No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...
Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms
[quote][p][bold]WotMeWorry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem[/p][/quote]No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...[/p][/quote]Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms southy
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

From the sidelines wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Valid concern, Derek.

Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think.




As per.
So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Valid concern, Derek. Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think. As per.[/p][/quote]So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah? Zexagon
  • Score: 1

8:58pm Wed 2 Jul 14

WotMeWorry says...

southy wrote:
WotMeWorry wrote:
southy wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem
No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...
Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms
I don't mind being told that I'm wrong if it turns out that I am, but you are not correct in saying that you can only get it from rats, have a browse through any number of legitimate sites, below is the entry on the RoSPA web site. Note that it says rats or cattle urine.

Weil's Disease (Leptospirosis)
Weil’s disease is a form of a bacterial infection also known as Leptospirosis that is carried by animals, most commonly in rats and cattle. It can be caught by humans through contact with rat or cattle urine, most commonly occurring through contaminated fresh water. Although human infection in the UK is minimal it is still worth taking some preventative measures to decrease the possibility of contracting it.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WotMeWorry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem[/p][/quote]No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...[/p][/quote]Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms[/p][/quote]I don't mind being told that I'm wrong if it turns out that I am, but you are not correct in saying that you can only get it from rats, have a browse through any number of legitimate sites, below is the entry on the RoSPA web site. Note that it says rats or cattle urine. Weil's Disease (Leptospirosis) Weil’s disease is a form of a bacterial infection also known as Leptospirosis that is carried by animals, most commonly in rats and cattle. It can be caught by humans through contact with rat or cattle urine, most commonly occurring through contaminated fresh water. Although human infection in the UK is minimal it is still worth taking some preventative measures to decrease the possibility of contracting it. WotMeWorry
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10:23pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

Zexagon wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Valid concern, Derek.

Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think.




As per.
So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?
no he's right, some of these charities pay 100000 plus to their executives they can well afford insurance for these events, at a mass sporting event like this by the law of averages you are bound to get something needing medical attention, let's not burden the already overstretched nhs any more
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Valid concern, Derek. Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think. As per.[/p][/quote]So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?[/p][/quote]no he's right, some of these charities pay 100000 plus to their executives they can well afford insurance for these events, at a mass sporting event like this by the law of averages you are bound to get something needing medical attention, let's not burden the already overstretched nhs any more derek james
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10:30pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

Hastagger wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight.

Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you!

#trends
#helmet
#derekdon't
#derekdo
no moron i am not criticising her at all just the organisers, see my answer below, actually i've been paying national insurance for forty years i think i can confidently say i would be entitled to treatment if i needed it, if you can't have a reasonable debate don't post , shows your intelligence (lack of)
[quote][p][bold]Hastagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Lets get this right, you are criticising this girl for her efforts to fund raise, by being healthy and active. How much money has she saved by exercising and being overweight. Now please give us a run down of what resources you use. We could start with the air you breath - I'm sure there are much more worthy people to breath it than you! #trends #helmet #derekdon't #derekdo[/p][/quote]no moron i am not criticising her at all just the organisers, see my answer below, actually i've been paying national insurance for forty years i think i can confidently say i would be entitled to treatment if i needed it, if you can't have a reasonable debate don't post , shows your intelligence (lack of) derek james
  • Score: -1

10:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

andysaints007 wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
IDIOT
no actually a valid question generally on fund raising events, as for the others if you can't have a rational debate don't post
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]IDIOT[/p][/quote]no actually a valid question generally on fund raising events, as for the others if you can't have a rational debate don't post derek james
  • Score: -1

10:43pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

jonnyx wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
you sound like a real humanitarian derek james. thanks for making this world just a little nicer. love you...

















(wanders off in search of a sarcasm emoji)
again see my answer below and grow up!
[quote][p][bold]jonnyx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]you sound like a real humanitarian derek james. thanks for making this world just a little nicer. love you... (wanders off in search of a sarcasm emoji)[/p][/quote]again see my answer below and grow up! derek james
  • Score: -2

10:46pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

shirlski wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'.
again if you don't have the intelligence to partake in a rational debate my advice is don't post
[quote][p][bold]shirlski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]The pedant in me says 'it's outweigh you dimbo', the human in me just says 'you bellend'.[/p][/quote]again if you don't have the intelligence to partake in a rational debate my advice is don't post derek james
  • Score: -2

11:11pm Wed 2 Jul 14

derek james says...

Zexagon wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Valid concern, Derek.

Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think.




As per.
So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?
zexagon would you swim in a dirty lake for pleasure? well yes you just might!
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Valid concern, Derek. Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think. As per.[/p][/quote]So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?[/p][/quote]zexagon would you swim in a dirty lake for pleasure? well yes you just might! derek james
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12:49am Thu 3 Jul 14

southy says...

WotMeWorry wrote:
southy wrote:
WotMeWorry wrote:
southy wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem
No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...
Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms
I don't mind being told that I'm wrong if it turns out that I am, but you are not correct in saying that you can only get it from rats, have a browse through any number of legitimate sites, below is the entry on the RoSPA web site. Note that it says rats or cattle urine.

Weil's Disease (Leptospirosis)
Weil’s disease is a form of a bacterial infection also known as Leptospirosis that is carried by animals, most commonly in rats and cattle. It can be caught by humans through contact with rat or cattle urine, most commonly occurring through contaminated fresh water. Although human infection in the UK is minimal it is still worth taking some preventative measures to decrease the possibility of contracting it.
I trying to remember what was the name of the Leptospira disease you get from Dogs I do know some who had contracted it back in the late 70's. But like I said there are 10 types of Leptospira disease each are different and have different names. But the most common way people contact Weil's disease is that they have touch some thing that a Rat have urinated on and transfered it to there mouths (like if you put your hand on grass and use that same hand to remove a hair of your tongue).
[quote][p][bold]WotMeWorry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WotMeWorry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Weil's disease is cause though rats (mainly the brown rat) urine, if she contracted it in the lake then they have 1 hell of a rat problem[/p][/quote]No, not technically correct. The leptospira bacteria that causes Weils disease is carried by a number of animals including cattle, pigs, dogs and rodents (particularly the rat). So indeed they may not have a rat problem...[/p][/quote]Carried as in contact not as pass though urine, thier are ten different types of Leptospira but its only the Rat (rodents) Urine you will get Weils disease from each of the 10 types have different Symptoms[/p][/quote]I don't mind being told that I'm wrong if it turns out that I am, but you are not correct in saying that you can only get it from rats, have a browse through any number of legitimate sites, below is the entry on the RoSPA web site. Note that it says rats or cattle urine. Weil's Disease (Leptospirosis) Weil’s disease is a form of a bacterial infection also known as Leptospirosis that is carried by animals, most commonly in rats and cattle. It can be caught by humans through contact with rat or cattle urine, most commonly occurring through contaminated fresh water. Although human infection in the UK is minimal it is still worth taking some preventative measures to decrease the possibility of contracting it.[/p][/quote]I trying to remember what was the name of the Leptospira disease you get from Dogs I do know some who had contracted it back in the late 70's. But like I said there are 10 types of Leptospira disease each are different and have different names. But the most common way people contact Weil's disease is that they have touch some thing that a Rat have urinated on and transfered it to there mouths (like if you put your hand on grass and use that same hand to remove a hair of your tongue). southy
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12:57am Thu 3 Jul 14

southy says...

The Cattle one is known as field disease this one attacks the muscles nerves and is progressive in nature only 2 know cases of this type of Leptospira disease
The Cattle one is known as field disease this one attacks the muscles nerves and is progressive in nature only 2 know cases of this type of Leptospira disease southy
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8:00am Thu 3 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

derek james wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
derek james wrote:
did the medical costs outway the money raised?
Valid concern, Derek.

Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think.




As per.
So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?
zexagon would you swim in a dirty lake for pleasure? well yes you just might!
No I wouldn't as I'm not a keen swimmer. Others do though. Drive past Redbridge and you'll see plenty of kids in the river test. I don't know if they carry water cleanliness testing kits with them. Go out to the ponds in the forest roundhill janesmoor and you'll see kids splashing around there too. I'm sure the animals p1ss in the water at brockenhurst too. Every weekend its packed though ,Or would you disagree?
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: did the medical costs outway the money raised?[/p][/quote]Valid concern, Derek. Others on here seem to have allowed their uncontrolled emotions cloud their ability to think. As per.[/p][/quote]So what if she wasn't raising money for charity and was swimming in the lake for pleasure? I suppose it's ok to treat it then yeah?[/p][/quote]zexagon would you swim in a dirty lake for pleasure? well yes you just might![/p][/quote]No I wouldn't as I'm not a keen swimmer. Others do though. Drive past Redbridge and you'll see plenty of kids in the river test. I don't know if they carry water cleanliness testing kits with them. Go out to the ponds in the forest roundhill janesmoor and you'll see kids splashing around there too. I'm sure the animals p1ss in the water at brockenhurst too. Every weekend its packed though ,Or would you disagree? Zexagon
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