Hampshire police hit back at worries over keeping children in custody

Daily Echo: Hampshire police hit back at worries over keeping children in custody Hampshire police hit back at worries over keeping children in custody

HAMPSHIRE police has hit back after a parliamentary inquiry warned that the force may be keeping children in cells – causing “unnecessary harm and distress”.

A report by a committee of MPs and peers raised the alarm over areas where custody suites do not have separate facilities for young people and adults.

They include Hampshire where, according to information provided to the inquiry, only three of 11 centres have separate facilities.

Enver Solomon, of the National Children’s Bureau (NCB), said: “Any child who comes into contact with the police should always be treated differently from an adult.

“For children who are at risk of exploitation, abuse or violence, it is particularly important that the police know what steps to take to protect them and put their welfare first.”

The NCB helped to compile the report for the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Children, which also warned against the “disproportionate” use of stop and search against children.

It found that, over the last five years, 1,136 stop and searches were carried out on under-10s in 22 police force areas.

And between 2009 and 2013, more than one million stop and searches were carried out on children under the age of 18 across 26 forces.

In Hampshire, between 2010 and 2013, a total of 36,422 stop and searches of under-18s were carried out – about one-third of the total.

The force did not provide figures for under-10s to the inquiry, but a spokeswoman told the Daily Echo that just 28 were stopped between 2011 and 2013.

And she defended the force’s custody practices, saying: “We do not put children in cell blocks because we appreciate that is not the place for children.

“Whenever children are brought into the cell block, they are treated as vulnerable and in need of protection – not as criminals.”

The spokeswoman suggested that children would be kept in an interview room, with an “appropriate adult”, adding: “They are probably victims of someone themselves.”

Police forces told the inquiry that it was necessary to stop and search under-10s because they could be used to conceal drugs or stolen goods.

Lady Massey, the group’s chairwoman, said: “We were surprised to find that, despite the fact that so many children are being stopped and searched by the police, there is no practice guidance to inform how to deal with children.”

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12:40pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Mary80 says...

If a child commits a crime they shouldnt be treated any differently, kids are a lot more savvy than adults give them credit for. A bunch of them just love kicking a ball at my window like every day they aren't older than 10 yet know exactly what they're doing. If they break a window they should get told off by police
If a child commits a crime they shouldnt be treated any differently, kids are a lot more savvy than adults give them credit for. A bunch of them just love kicking a ball at my window like every day they aren't older than 10 yet know exactly what they're doing. If they break a window they should get told off by police Mary80
  • Score: 18

1:13pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Dai Rear says...

If I were kicked in the head by a 14 stone, 6 foot 4 inch, male, I have to say that whether his chronology is 17 years and 364 days or 18 years and 1 day would be a matter of monumental indifference to me. You can't really have a sensible discussion , can you, if one party is determined that all sub 18's are "children" regardless of the objective truth that no one, least of all the youths concerned, regards them all as "children"
If I were kicked in the head by a 14 stone, 6 foot 4 inch, male, I have to say that whether his chronology is 17 years and 364 days or 18 years and 1 day would be a matter of monumental indifference to me. You can't really have a sensible discussion , can you, if one party is determined that all sub 18's are "children" regardless of the objective truth that no one, least of all the youths concerned, regards them all as "children" Dai Rear
  • Score: 11

1:40pm Tue 8 Jul 14

IronLady2010 says...

What on earth should the Police do then? Should they simply just watch them torch a car etc.

The main reason society is becoming so bad is that there is no punishment for these youngsters, they know they will get away with it or be given a medal for their naughtiness as in an ASBO.
What on earth should the Police do then? Should they simply just watch them torch a car etc. The main reason society is becoming so bad is that there is no punishment for these youngsters, they know they will get away with it or be given a medal for their naughtiness as in an ASBO. IronLady2010
  • Score: 17

4:20pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Hastagger says...

Lock the scum up. We've had 30 odd years of lefty, liberal tripe where children 'can't commit a crime' as they poor little blighters don't know right from wrong. OF COURSE THEY DO! Most career criminals start young and are from criminal families that don't give a flying **** about the law. They live of benefits, breed and steal from the hard working tax payer, who then has to compensate them when they are locked up, because some, bearded, human rights lawyer plays the system. Well I hope they human rights lawyers are the future victims of the scum they defend. This problem started under John Major, I can remember we weren't allowed to play games at school where there was a winner or looser - it had to be ****ing inclusive, so no ones feelings got hurt. WAKE UP and smell the ***ing coffee! a the real world ain't like that! These little ****s have been pandered to far too long. No matter what your age, you do the crime, you do the time. And that should be a long long time, and if you do another crime, you spend the rest of your life in Gaol! No room for this scum on the streets. Time to clean up the country and put the great back in to Great Britain!

#rantover
#trends
#bigcleanup
Lock the scum up. We've had 30 odd years of lefty, liberal tripe where children 'can't commit a crime' as they poor little blighters don't know right from wrong. OF COURSE THEY DO! Most career criminals start young and are from criminal families that don't give a flying **** about the law. They live of benefits, breed and steal from the hard working tax payer, who then has to compensate them when they are locked up, because some, bearded, human rights lawyer plays the system. Well I hope they human rights lawyers are the future victims of the scum they defend. This problem started under John Major, I can remember we weren't allowed to play games at school where there was a winner or looser - it had to be ****ing inclusive, so no ones feelings got hurt. WAKE UP and smell the ***ing coffee! a the real world ain't like that! These little ****s have been pandered to far too long. No matter what your age, you do the crime, you do the time. And that should be a long long time, and if you do another crime, you spend the rest of your life in Gaol! No room for this scum on the streets. Time to clean up the country and put the great back in to Great Britain! #rantover #trends #bigcleanup Hastagger
  • Score: 15

5:11pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Bexybow87 says...

To be honest I'm more shocked that that many young children need locking up!! Doesn't that just reflect the troubles in society!! I say tough, if you commit a crime, regardless of age, you deserve what you get!! Stop being soft and sort them out.
To be honest I'm more shocked that that many young children need locking up!! Doesn't that just reflect the troubles in society!! I say tough, if you commit a crime, regardless of age, you deserve what you get!! Stop being soft and sort them out. Bexybow87
  • Score: 9

6:08pm Tue 8 Jul 14

directtalk says...

The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 dictates the way Police have to treat children (under 18 years of age) who they deal with, whether or not they're in custody. There is no leaway. These are strict rules which Police have to comply with. These hairy lipped, sandle-footed, hand-wringing bleeding hearts who seem to fill the ranks of groups such as the National Children’s Bureau (NCB) and the political All-Party Parliamentary Group for Children, etc, seem to regurgitate the same old clap-trap every 10 years or so. These mischief-making trouble-makers need to get it into their heads that not all children who come to the attention of Police are innocent little cherubs but are nasty, cunning, lying, cheating, manipulative little toe-rags who need the strict authority that Police can dish out. Police are quite competent to identify culprits from victims and which ones need discipline and those who need compassion, care and kindness. It might be helpful if the Police spokeswoman, rather than mouthing off politically-correct sound-bites and instead said it as it is.
The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 dictates the way Police have to treat children (under 18 years of age) who they deal with, whether or not they're in custody. There is no leaway. These are strict rules which Police have to comply with. These hairy lipped, sandle-footed, hand-wringing bleeding hearts who seem to fill the ranks of groups such as the National Children’s Bureau (NCB) and the political All-Party Parliamentary Group for Children, etc, seem to regurgitate the same old clap-trap every 10 years or so. These mischief-making trouble-makers need to get it into their heads that not all children who come to the attention of Police are innocent little cherubs but are nasty, cunning, lying, cheating, manipulative little toe-rags who need the strict authority that Police can dish out. Police are quite competent to identify culprits from victims and which ones need discipline and those who need compassion, care and kindness. It might be helpful if the Police spokeswoman, rather than mouthing off politically-correct sound-bites and instead said it as it is. directtalk
  • Score: 9

6:51pm Tue 8 Jul 14

melting pot says...

Fair point very well made directtalk. Also the rule book says customers as senior officers like to call them are treated as if they are in a hotel anyway as they are innocent until proven guilty...........Cou
rse they are. Arresting a child is plods worst nightmare.......more forms and trying to find an adult to sit in on interviews etc.
Fair point very well made directtalk. Also the rule book says customers as senior officers like to call them are treated as if they are in a hotel anyway as they are innocent until proven guilty...........Cou rse they are. Arresting a child is plods worst nightmare.......more forms and trying to find an adult to sit in on interviews etc. melting pot
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Tue 8 Jul 14

speedyuk says...

Bloody do gooders these kids are committing adult crimes, house burglary, robbery, Gbh etc etc do an adult crime do the time. My mate takes these kids from court to young offenders places she not allowed to wear a uniform they don't go in the big celled vans but in plain transits and in the back are play stations etc oh and they have to stop and McDonald's if trip is more than two hours. She had a 10 year old in for rape so go figure why should he be treated nicely think about the victim. Oh and also at southampton here is the food choices

Burger or chicken burger with chips
Fish and chips
Jacket potatoe
With tuna or cheese
Cheese or ham salad oh with grapes

As much tea coffee and hit chocolate you order by your intercom and ham cheese egg ir tuna sandwiches on tap
Breakfast is egg sausage or bacon bap!! I used to work in the kitchen there !!!

Go to hospital u get slop !!!
Bloody do gooders these kids are committing adult crimes, house burglary, robbery, Gbh etc etc do an adult crime do the time. My mate takes these kids from court to young offenders places she not allowed to wear a uniform they don't go in the big celled vans but in plain transits and in the back are play stations etc oh and they have to stop and McDonald's if trip is more than two hours. She had a 10 year old in for rape so go figure why should he be treated nicely think about the victim. Oh and also at southampton here is the food choices Burger or chicken burger with chips Fish and chips Jacket potatoe With tuna or cheese Cheese or ham salad oh with grapes As much tea coffee and hit chocolate you order by your intercom and ham cheese egg ir tuna sandwiches on tap Breakfast is egg sausage or bacon bap!! I used to work in the kitchen there !!! Go to hospital u get slop !!! speedyuk
  • Score: 4
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