More than 1,000 people sign a petition to stop Bradbeers in Romsey from increasing in size

Daily Echo: Campaigners against the Bradbeers plans Campaigners against the Bradbeers plans

MORE than 1,000 people say no.

That’s the defiant message from loyal customers of a Hampshire pub fighting plans to stop a department store from expanding nearby.

Regulars at the Tudor Rose pub in Romsey have signed a petition, supported by local people and visitors to the town, in a last-ditch bid to stop Bradbeers from increasing in size.

The store – one of the oldest and most famous in Hampshire – has been battling for two years to expand and adjoin the Cornmarket.

The scheme will involve demolishing the former Stares Butchery and old Oxfam bookshop, replacing them both with a modern glass-fronted building.

The firm’s initial plans in 2012 were refused by council chiefs, but new proposals have been submitted with a lower roof.

But landlady of the neighbouring Grade II listed Tudor Rose, Lisa Moore said the proposals will have a devastating impact on her business as well as many other small firms in the town.

She said: “These plans will be detrimental to our customers who use the pub garden and destroy the ambience of the historic building.

“We will lose all the sunlight in the pub garden because the proposed building is so high and customers won’t want to sit outside because it will be so dark and cold.”

Lisa added: “Buildings like the Tudor Rose are part of the country’s heritage to be enjoyed by ourselves and future generations and they cannot be replaced, therefore they should be protected while in our care.”

So far she has collected more than 1,000 signatures on a petition aimed at stopping the plans, which now have the support of Romsey Town Council.

“Bradbeers is striving to modernise and expand its empire to the detriment of small businesses. This will mean a fall in visitors to the town and possibly damage a key part of the town centre.”

Bradbeers MD Greg Davies, said the revised plans have seen the height of the building reduced and the modern design still kept many traditional features including a slate pitched roof and solid oak timber pillars. He disputed that the pub would lose its sunlight.

He added: “This application was submitted a very long time ago and we will watch the out-of-town retail threat to Romsey town centre very carefully before making any decision on a multi-million-pound town centre project.”

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8:14am Fri 11 Jul 14

excusemoi says...

Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits?
Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits? excusemoi
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9:04am Fri 11 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store
Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 7

9:42am Fri 11 Jul 14

sotonboy84 says...

excusemoi wrote:
Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits?
That's generally how any business expands.
[quote][p][bold]excusemoi[/bold] wrote: Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits?[/p][/quote]That's generally how any business expands. sotonboy84
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9:46am Fri 11 Jul 14

Frank28 says...

Hasn't Bradbeers expanded enough already?
Hasn't Bradbeers expanded enough already? Frank28
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10:58am Fri 11 Jul 14

Cyber__Fug says...

But landlady of the neighbouring Grade II listed Tudor Rose, Lisa Moore said the proposals will have a devastating impact on her business as well as many other small firms in the town.

Nimbyism at it's best ! Planning applications can not be contested on commercial grounds.
But landlady of the neighbouring Grade II listed Tudor Rose, Lisa Moore said the proposals will have a devastating impact on her business as well as many other small firms in the town. Nimbyism at it's best ! Planning applications can not be contested on commercial grounds. Cyber__Fug
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11:03am Fri 11 Jul 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store
Hey since when you have started trusting what the business bosses say?

Please don't spoil may day by saying you too have become a champagne socialist and consuming too much of that bubbly stuff while having breakfast with some MD!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store[/p][/quote]Hey since when you have started trusting what the business bosses say? Please don't spoil may day by saying you too have become a champagne socialist and consuming too much of that bubbly stuff while having breakfast with some MD!!! Paramjit Bahia
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11:28am Fri 11 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store
Hey since when you have started trusting what the business bosses say?

Please don't spoil may day by saying you too have become a champagne socialist and consuming too much of that bubbly stuff while having breakfast with some MD!!!
Your day is not spolied Paramjit ...... Most of my morning was used collecting someone from Heathrow Airport ....... A wondeful place !!
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Cant understand why Bradbeers want to expand ......... I thought that they were going to move out of Romsey when Tesco get their planning permission for a new store[/p][/quote]Hey since when you have started trusting what the business bosses say? Please don't spoil may day by saying you too have become a champagne socialist and consuming too much of that bubbly stuff while having breakfast with some MD!!![/p][/quote]Your day is not spolied Paramjit ...... Most of my morning was used collecting someone from Heathrow Airport ....... A wondeful place !! Lone Ranger.
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1:56pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Major Ray Cist says...

Its a real shame to see the Tudor Rose go.
You can see from the picture its frequented by mostly academics, chess masters and executives from local businesses, perhaps a fundraising pub quiz ?
Dont judge them on the picture, this was another fund raising initiative of dressing like a ruffian and charity dog fight.

Dig deep chaps !
Its a real shame to see the Tudor Rose go. You can see from the picture its frequented by mostly academics, chess masters and executives from local businesses, perhaps a fundraising pub quiz ? Dont judge them on the picture, this was another fund raising initiative of dressing like a ruffian and charity dog fight. Dig deep chaps ! Major Ray Cist
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2:35pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Redondo Saint says...

excusemoi wrote:
Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits?
What a stupid comment!!!
[quote][p][bold]excusemoi[/bold] wrote: Bradbeers is a very expensive shop full of lush items, i wish i could afford to shop there! lol I guess the expansion is from all the profits?[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment!!! Redondo Saint
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3:40pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

Please tell me that's not a genuine photo of the reporter at the top of the page
Please tell me that's not a genuine photo of the reporter at the top of the page Zexagon
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4:41pm Fri 11 Jul 14

mickey01 says...

cant see a problem with this it is hardly a blot on the landscape design
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10:13pm Mon 14 Jul 14

mike coll says...

When I called in for a pint in 2011 and 2012, frankly on both occasions the beer was crap, I liked the pub BUT after a dismal first pint I asked for bottled cider instead.
So for all the people in the picture who like real ale I pity you, but if you drink larger, well the shop is doing you a favour.
When I called in for a pint in 2011 and 2012, frankly on both occasions the beer was crap, I liked the pub BUT after a dismal first pint I asked for bottled cider instead. So for all the people in the picture who like real ale I pity you, but if you drink larger, well the shop is doing you a favour. mike coll
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1:33pm Mon 21 Jul 14

From the sidelines says...

“We will lose all the sunlight in the pub garden because the proposed building is so high ..."

Er, no, Ms Moore. Bradbeers is to the East of your pub. Generally, the sun rises in the east, moves towards the south, where it is at its highest at lunchtime, and sets in the west. It appears that Bradbeers would cast a shadow on your pub garden until about 11am, and that the in the evening, your pub garden is in the shade of your pub.

Your case for opposition is unlikely to convince anyone with a basic education. And a map.
“We will lose all the sunlight in the pub garden because the proposed building is so high ..." Er, no, Ms Moore. Bradbeers is to the East of your pub. Generally, the sun rises in the east, moves towards the south, where it is at its highest at lunchtime, and sets in the west. It appears that Bradbeers would cast a shadow on your pub garden until about 11am, and that the in the evening, your pub garden is in the shade of your pub. Your case for opposition is unlikely to convince anyone with a basic education. And a map. From the sidelines
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