Eastleigh council chiefs want residents thoughts on the redevelopment of Fleming Park at a public exhibition this afternoon

Eastleigh Borough Council is considering demolishing Fleming Park Leisure Centre, pictured

Eastleigh Borough Council is considering demolishing Fleming Park Leisure Centre, pictured

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

RESIDENTS can share their ideas on how best to redevelopment a popular Hampshire leisure centre.

Eastleigh Borough Council has organised a series of three exhibitions in Eastleigh for the public to get more information about proposals to demolish the current Fleming Park Leisure Centre in Eastleigh.

Council bosses want to replace it with a new £15m facility close by.

It is hoped the leisure centre, which will include state-of-the-art facilities and equipment with a larger main pool and learner pool, expanded gym facilities and a new restaurant as well as more health and beauty facilities, will open in time for the Rio Olympics in summer 2016.

Fleming Park, in Passfield Avenue, will remain open throughout the development of the new centre as the new building will be built not on exactly the same spot.

Staff will be on hand to listen to residents' views and to present information today at the leisure centre from 3pm to 7pm.

Then they will be at Velmore Community Centre, in Falkland Road on Tuesday from 3pm to 7pm and the Pavilion on the Park, in Kingfisher Road on Thursday , from 3pm to 7pm.

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12:36pm Mon 4 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

How long before someone says it?
How long before someone says it? 03alpe01
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

thesouth says...

03alpe01 wrote:
How long before someone says it?
What??
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: How long before someone says it?[/p][/quote]What?? thesouth
  • Score: -2

12:57pm Mon 4 Aug 14

camerajuan says...

thesouth wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
How long before someone says it?
What??
just guessing here but I think what thesouth is referring to rhymes with spice think.

Just guessing. Might be wrong.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: How long before someone says it?[/p][/quote]What??[/p][/quote]just guessing here but I think what thesouth is referring to rhymes with spice think. Just guessing. Might be wrong. camerajuan
  • Score: 5

1:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

RealTalkSouthampton says...

Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light?
Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light? RealTalkSouthampton
  • Score: 6

1:25pm Mon 4 Aug 14

KayleighJade says...

I'm glad they aren't closing it, it's my go-to facility to swim and gym.
I'm glad they aren't closing it, it's my go-to facility to swim and gym. KayleighJade
  • Score: 3

2:22pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ToastyTea says...

ice rink ?
ice rink ? ToastyTea
  • Score: 3

3:16pm Mon 4 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

ToastyTea wrote:
ice rink ?
1 hour and 59 minutes.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: ice rink ?[/p][/quote]1 hour and 59 minutes. 03alpe01
  • Score: 7

4:47pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dan Brain says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light?
It's all borrowed! They keep raising their limit I think its currently around £120million although actual amount to date is nearer £80mill. Basically they build houses then use the housing bonus as the deposit on borrowing money (like a morgage). Keith House calls it "risk free prudential borrowing" . Basically its a risky strategy that means the councils exposed to alot of risk for the next 20 years and becomes more of a business than a local government. I have been challenging it at cabinet meetings but he just gives the same duff answer. The tactic is if they keep producing nice community things they keep getting elected in - they didn't learn anything from 2008. Yet they have had to cut back on some public consultations to save money!!
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light?[/p][/quote]It's all borrowed! They keep raising their limit I think its currently around £120million although actual amount to date is nearer £80mill. Basically they build houses then use the housing bonus as the deposit on borrowing money (like a morgage). Keith House calls it "risk free prudential borrowing" . Basically its a risky strategy that means the councils exposed to alot of risk for the next 20 years and becomes more of a business than a local government. I have been challenging it at cabinet meetings but he just gives the same duff answer. The tactic is if they keep producing nice community things they keep getting elected in - they didn't learn anything from 2008. Yet they have had to cut back on some public consultations to save money!! Dan Brain
  • Score: 4

4:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dan Brain says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light?
It's all borrowed! They keep raising their limit I think off top of my head its currently around £120million although actual amount to date is nearer £80mill. Basically they build houses then use the housing bonus as the deposit on borrowing money (like a morgage). Keith House calls it "risk free prudential borrowing" . Basically its a risky strategy that means the councils exposed to alot of risk for the next 20 years and becomes more of a business than a local government. I have been challenging it at cabinet meetings but he just gives the same duff answer. The tactic is if they keep producing nice community things they keep getting elected in - they didn't learn anything from 2008. Yet they have had to cut back on some public consultations to save money!!
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: Sounds like EBC are being very forward thinking. What I would like to know is where do they get their money from. Seems like they have money to spend on the rose bowl and the rebuild of this. But ssc don't have any resources. Can anybody shed some light?[/p][/quote]It's all borrowed! They keep raising their limit I think off top of my head its currently around £120million although actual amount to date is nearer £80mill. Basically they build houses then use the housing bonus as the deposit on borrowing money (like a morgage). Keith House calls it "risk free prudential borrowing" . Basically its a risky strategy that means the councils exposed to alot of risk for the next 20 years and becomes more of a business than a local government. I have been challenging it at cabinet meetings but he just gives the same duff answer. The tactic is if they keep producing nice community things they keep getting elected in - they didn't learn anything from 2008. Yet they have had to cut back on some public consultations to save money!! Dan Brain
  • Score: 3

5:26pm Mon 4 Aug 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Fleming Park should be looking around at some of the top facilities in the country. With a good redevelopment I could see Virgin Active take it over.
Fleming Park should be looking around at some of the top facilities in the country. With a good redevelopment I could see Virgin Active take it over. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: -3

5:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Fleming Park should be looking around at some of the top facilities in the country. With a good redevelopment I could see Virgin Active take it over.
Would Virgin Active move over from the Cricket ground or run two sites?
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Fleming Park should be looking around at some of the top facilities in the country. With a good redevelopment I could see Virgin Active take it over.[/p][/quote]Would Virgin Active move over from the Cricket ground or run two sites? 03alpe01
  • Score: -1

9:51pm Mon 4 Aug 14

southamptonadi says...

Big question is, why do they want to move it and not build on the same site?

What with. Fleming park, the closed golf course and the allotments. I wonder hat the next plan is for there. How many houses?
Big question is, why do they want to move it and not build on the same site? What with. Fleming park, the closed golf course and the allotments. I wonder hat the next plan is for there. How many houses? southamptonadi
  • Score: 3

10:50pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dan Brain says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Big question is, why do they want to move it and not build on the same site?

What with. Fleming park, the closed golf course and the allotments. I wonder hat the next plan is for there. How many houses?
They are building it next door then knocking the old one down once complete. Same place really - old golf course is being made into a park (currently under consultation).
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Big question is, why do they want to move it and not build on the same site? What with. Fleming park, the closed golf course and the allotments. I wonder hat the next plan is for there. How many houses?[/p][/quote]They are building it next door then knocking the old one down once complete. Same place really - old golf course is being made into a park (currently under consultation). Dan Brain
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Krazeekat says...

Not building on the same site allows the current leisure centre to remain open. Otherwise there would be a long period of time where the centre would be closed while a new one was built. This would mean many may take membership elsewhere while the rebuild took place and some may never return once they're established habits to use another centre.

I'm glad they're back to the idea of building one elsewhere keeping the existing one open. (First suggested many years ago) There was a period of time where they pulled that idea and were considering just a refurb which would have been disruptive to users and for no real significant gain.

My understanding is that Eastleigh Council also have a lot of ownership and income from other things/building/faci
lities. They own loads of business space, land and facilities which enable them to generate income separate to the money received from government/residents taxes etc. Lots are rented out to others but Eastleigh own them. They seem pretty business/company like rather than other councils which solely rely on their government allowances/tax generated budget.
Not building on the same site allows the current leisure centre to remain open. Otherwise there would be a long period of time where the centre would be closed while a new one was built. This would mean many may take membership elsewhere while the rebuild took place and some may never return once they're established habits to use another centre. I'm glad they're back to the idea of building one elsewhere keeping the existing one open. (First suggested many years ago) There was a period of time where they pulled that idea and were considering just a refurb which would have been disruptive to users and for no real significant gain. My understanding is that Eastleigh Council also have a lot of ownership and income from other things/building/faci lities. They own loads of business space, land and facilities which enable them to generate income separate to the money received from government/residents taxes etc. Lots are rented out to others but Eastleigh own them. They seem pretty business/company like rather than other councils which solely rely on their government allowances/tax generated budget. Krazeekat
  • Score: 1

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