Hampshire Constabulary to close Bitterne Police Station

Bitterne Police Station

Bitterne Police Station

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Crime Reporter

BITTERNE police station will be closed within three years as cash-strapped police chiefs attempt to claw back hundreds of thousands of pounds, the Daily Echo can exclusively reveal.

Discussions are already underway to sell off the building and the prime piece of land it sits on – and move officers into a fire station just up the road to save money.

Although no final decisions have been made detectives and uniformed officers currently based in the Bursledon Road station could be set to share facilities at Hightown fire station in the latest joint venture by the two authorities.

It comes just a year after Shirley police station faced the axe and their officers relocated to a building on the site of Redbridge fire station on Redbridge Hill.

That move has been hailed a success by Hampshire’s Police and Crime Commissioner Simon Hayes, who is responsible for the changing face of policing in the city as he battles to save £25m over the next two years and who believes it can be repeated in Bitterne.

The unique partnership working – the first of its kind in the country – has also been heavily praised by the government, whic has awarded Mr Hayes £1.5m to further develop the join working initiative with Hampshire Fire and Rescue Service.

The announcement comes as Mr Hayes unveiled his latest strategy for Hampshire Constabulary’s police estate for the next four years, which aims to reduce the total running costs of what is left of the buildings owned by the force by up to £3m a year.

He first commissioned a full estates review in 2011, which resulted in slashing what was then an £80m bill by more than half through closing down stations and selling off unwanted or underused buildings owned by the force.

Mr Hayes insists that while the officers might be moving they will not be leaving the area. Instead the money the plan will free up will be ploughed back in to reinforcing the policing frontline.

The idea is supported by John Apter, chairman of Hampshire Police Federation, who believes that a police force of the 21st century does not need stations on every high street.

Although no firm agreement has been made Hightown fire station is the preferred location for Mr Hayes and his estates team.

James Payne, estate strategy and delivery director, said: “We are stepping away from owning everything and this is a continuation of that.

“We are in discussions about the move from Bitterne and at the moment Hightown is our primary target.

“Central government are very keen and are using us as a national lead on this.”

Mr Apter said: “There are emotional and practical arguments when it comes to losing police stations.

“The emotional argument is that police stations hold a lot of memories, certainly for police officers and the public have an emotional attachment to them, too.

“But in reality people do not use them like they used to, so rather than have a prime location in the high street why not have a base out of town or use shared services. If doing that saves some money and stops us losing more officers then we welcome and support that every time. It has got to be buildings [going] before people.”

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7:17am Sat 16 Aug 14

bigfella777 says...

Now the residents of Bitterne might get a break from the young officers who grab a car each and go screaming down to Weston sirens blazing every 5 minutes.
How about all getting in one vehicle that would save money to start with.
Now the residents of Bitterne might get a break from the young officers who grab a car each and go screaming down to Weston sirens blazing every 5 minutes. How about all getting in one vehicle that would save money to start with. bigfella777
  • Score: -23

7:17am Sat 16 Aug 14

paraboy says...

oh dear one of the biggest crime rate in southampton area but on the look up move up the road and a cross the road from thornhill that will help thornhill
oh dear one of the biggest crime rate in southampton area but on the look up move up the road and a cross the road from thornhill that will help thornhill paraboy
  • Score: 5

7:20am Sat 16 Aug 14

loosehead says...

Just a thought where are the Cells inside a firestation?
Just a thought where are the Cells inside a firestation? loosehead
  • Score: -7

7:21am Sat 16 Aug 14

Solent Soul says...

I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars! Solent Soul
  • Score: 11

7:46am Sat 16 Aug 14

Lord Ikea says...

I have heard that once the police have left, the building is going to be turned into a pub.

Apparently there is no need for planning permission as it has always been full of drunks and druggies.

Not the Officers of course.
I have heard that once the police have left, the building is going to be turned into a pub. Apparently there is no need for planning permission as it has always been full of drunks and druggies. Not the Officers of course. Lord Ikea
  • Score: 11

7:52am Sat 16 Aug 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.
Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city. SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 7

8:50am Sat 16 Aug 14

Maine Lobster says...

Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same. Maine Lobster
  • Score: 10

8:55am Sat 16 Aug 14

Solent Soul says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.
Not sure police/fire would be a good mix, both have different priorities, both have different power's of entry etc, most probably better to keep a clear divide between the two services in my opinion..
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.[/p][/quote]Not sure police/fire would be a good mix, both have different priorities, both have different power's of entry etc, most probably better to keep a clear divide between the two services in my opinion.. Solent Soul
  • Score: 2

9:02am Sat 16 Aug 14

mooky9 says...

Solent Soul wrote:
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.
Not sure police/fire would be a good mix, both have different priorities, both have different power's of entry etc, most probably better to keep a clear divide between the two services in my opinion..
This has noting to do with a bit of interdepartmental banter. It's done at redbridge, Winnall and Eastleigh and works very well, fire service suggested sharing facilities years ago but were turned down, even by their own chief. It works well and makes sense... portswood is not closing it's becoming a hub station with more office workers at central.
The issue for me is Shirley is not a success, Shirley is 3/4 empty but still owned by the police, still paid for by the police and can't be sold because of asbestos. So no Mr Hayes it's not good as you are now paying for two stations not one, how is that saving money?
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.[/p][/quote]Not sure police/fire would be a good mix, both have different priorities, both have different power's of entry etc, most probably better to keep a clear divide between the two services in my opinion..[/p][/quote]This has noting to do with a bit of interdepartmental banter. It's done at redbridge, Winnall and Eastleigh and works very well, fire service suggested sharing facilities years ago but were turned down, even by their own chief. It works well and makes sense... portswood is not closing it's becoming a hub station with more office workers at central. The issue for me is Shirley is not a success, Shirley is 3/4 empty but still owned by the police, still paid for by the police and can't be sold because of asbestos. So no Mr Hayes it's not good as you are now paying for two stations not one, how is that saving money? mooky9
  • Score: 1

9:05am Sat 16 Aug 14

biggus2 says...

What happens when the firemen go one strike. Are the Bobbies allowed to cross the picket line will the be locked in or locked out.
What happens when the firemen go one strike. Are the Bobbies allowed to cross the picket line will the be locked in or locked out. biggus2
  • Score: 1

9:10am Sat 16 Aug 14

saintforever says...

at least there won't be cars parked all the way down whites road and brownlow avenue - mostly belonging to those working from that station - bet the local residents will be happy
at least there won't be cars parked all the way down whites road and brownlow avenue - mostly belonging to those working from that station - bet the local residents will be happy saintforever
  • Score: 5

9:41am Sat 16 Aug 14

D.a.v.e says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Now the residents of Bitterne might get a break from the young officers who grab a car each and go screaming down to Weston sirens blazing every 5 minutes.
How about all getting in one vehicle that would save money to start with.
Many locals would argue that its as good as empty already. It comes to something when you have to ring the front door bell to be let in.
Still while its there the local Tesco is busy selling donuts.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Now the residents of Bitterne might get a break from the young officers who grab a car each and go screaming down to Weston sirens blazing every 5 minutes. How about all getting in one vehicle that would save money to start with.[/p][/quote]Many locals would argue that its as good as empty already. It comes to something when you have to ring the front door bell to be let in. Still while its there the local Tesco is busy selling donuts. D.a.v.e
  • Score: 3

9:47am Sat 16 Aug 14

Linesman says...

Is this an example of what David Cameron meant when he said that his government would be 'Tough on Crime'?

What his cuts have meant is that it is tougher to report a crime, and less likely that the crime will be solved and the perpetrator brought to justice.

OK for the toffs with their private security, but not so great for us Plebs!
Is this an example of what David Cameron meant when he said that his government would be 'Tough on Crime'? What his cuts have meant is that it is tougher to report a crime, and less likely that the crime will be solved and the perpetrator brought to justice. OK for the toffs with their private security, but not so great for us Plebs! Linesman
  • Score: 6

11:39am Sat 16 Aug 14

Bagamn says...

It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election.
It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election. Bagamn
  • Score: -1

12:07pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Bagamn wrote:
It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election.
Thankfully, we all voted out the toe rags that put this country in a tail spin and in debt for many, many billions. We, as a Country, are slowly clawing our way back, but it will be along time before we can say this crisis is over. The debt has to be paid for, I am sure you understand that.
[quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election.[/p][/quote]Thankfully, we all voted out the toe rags that put this country in a tail spin and in debt for many, many billions. We, as a Country, are slowly clawing our way back, but it will be along time before we can say this crisis is over. The debt has to be paid for, I am sure you understand that. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Sat 16 Aug 14

skeptik says...

43 force HQs with 349 members of ACPO - Hampshire has 5 chief ranking officers - might be reasonable to expect if you want to keep 43 fiefdoms in being something has to go and why not the lads and lasses on the front line. A friend who served from police cadet to pension served always made the point - we can measure crime figures post event we could never show what we prevented. Politicians like to show rows of stats - be they fact or fiction.
43 force HQs with 349 members of ACPO - Hampshire has 5 chief ranking officers - might be reasonable to expect if you want to keep 43 fiefdoms in being something has to go and why not the lads and lasses on the front line. A friend who served from police cadet to pension served always made the point - we can measure crime figures post event we could never show what we prevented. Politicians like to show rows of stats - be they fact or fiction. skeptik
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified? Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do? Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 0

3:18pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

Another tesco on its way then
Another tesco on its way then mickey01
  • Score: 2

3:21pm Sat 16 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?[/p][/quote]print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -1

3:25pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.
I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?[/p][/quote]print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.[/p][/quote]I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Sat 16 Aug 14

skeptik says...

Letters left by outgoing treasury ministers - early 1960s the Tory minister left - 'sorry about the mess old son'. It is often suggested that we go 'almost bankrupt' and elect the other lot - yet we have never moved down wealth tables whilst these much trumpeted national bankruptcies are used as the excuse to fleece middle income workers.
Letters left by outgoing treasury ministers - early 1960s the Tory minister left - 'sorry about the mess old son'. It is often suggested that we go 'almost bankrupt' and elect the other lot - yet we have never moved down wealth tables whilst these much trumpeted national bankruptcies are used as the excuse to fleece middle income workers. skeptik
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Sat 16 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.
I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.
bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?[/p][/quote]print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.[/p][/quote]I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.[/p][/quote]bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 2

5:13pm Sat 16 Aug 14

sparkster says...

yes with crimes and murders on the increase let's shut another police station
yes with crimes and murders on the increase let's shut another police station sparkster
  • Score: 2

6:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Solent Soul says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?[/p][/quote]Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas??? Solent Soul
  • Score: 1

7:20pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mike coll says...

It would be nice to know how many coppers have taken the redundancy & early retirement option, as opposed to moving stations. where there is an easy way out I dont doubt the police will take it.
It would be nice to know how many coppers have taken the redundancy & early retirement option, as opposed to moving stations. where there is an easy way out I dont doubt the police will take it. mike coll
  • Score: -4

9:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

loosehead says...

Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Sorry it's not the government that's telling Police commissioners & chief Inspectors to shut stations or sack officers.
The government has cut red tape so less office work needs to be done so less Civvy's are needed & less Senior officers are needed but for some weird reason the Senior officers aren't being touched & as for their secretaries?
A decent Commissioner would have cut senior posts before cutting stations
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Sorry it's not the government that's telling Police commissioners & chief Inspectors to shut stations or sack officers. The government has cut red tape so less office work needs to be done so less Civvy's are needed & less Senior officers are needed but for some weird reason the Senior officers aren't being touched & as for their secretaries? A decent Commissioner would have cut senior posts before cutting stations loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:08pm Sat 16 Aug 14

loosehead says...

Bagamn wrote:
It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election.
Maybe we should have gone the French way? Oh! they're back in the Red so the socialist way didn't work did it?
[quote][p][bold]Bagamn[/bold] wrote: It's the old Tory maxim - If it doesn't show a profit, shut it down or get rid of it. This country will be totally mucked up by the next election.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should have gone the French way? Oh! they're back in the Red so the socialist way didn't work did it? loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

loosehead says...

Solent Soul wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???
These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense?
Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them .
Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real.
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?[/p][/quote]Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???[/p][/quote]These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense? Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them . Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real. loosehead
  • Score: -4

10:42pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mike coll says...

Interesting how many comments have been deleted by the Echo, so much for a free press.
Interesting how many comments have been deleted by the Echo, so much for a free press. mike coll
  • Score: 0

1:15am Sun 17 Aug 14

Citizen-Smith says...

Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law.
Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law. Citizen-Smith
  • Score: -1

1:15am Sun 17 Aug 14

Citizen-Smith says...

Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law.
Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law. Citizen-Smith
  • Score: 0

6:48am Sun 17 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

Citizen-Smith wrote:
Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law.
no
but try urinating in the street and you will have armed police surrounding you in a second !
[quote][p][bold]Citizen-Smith[/bold] wrote: Bloody useless anyway - didn't help me when my car had paint stripper poured on it. In my experience, why have Police, when we have car insurance. No good if 3rd party fire and theft. We found a can of paint stripper thrown in residential bin close to the car. We carefully removed it and took it to the Police as evidence, etc, for finger prints etc. OK it may seem trivial (not murder/burglary) but it wasn't trivial to us, and after all, we had found evidence. I followed up the matter shortly after was told by the Bitterne Police that the finger prints had evaporated. Years later, watching a tv forensic show, they stated finger prints may last many years. Shame the ones on our evidence didn't last more than a few hours! Over the years I have needed to contact the Police and haven't found them much help. Only one (foreign) Policeman gave us confidence in the law.[/p][/quote]no but try urinating in the street and you will have armed police surrounding you in a second ! mickey01
  • Score: 1

6:57am Sun 17 Aug 14

Solent Soul says...

loosehead wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???
These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense?
Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them .
Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real.
Benefit fraud costs the uk 1 billion a year - Tax fraud costs this country 70 billion a year, I think it is you my friend who needs to get real.. They should start with Vodafone, Starbucks, Apple, I'm sure other people can name a few more companies who are making ££££ whilst thinking taxation doesn't apply to themselves..
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?[/p][/quote]Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???[/p][/quote]These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense? Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them . Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real.[/p][/quote]Benefit fraud costs the uk 1 billion a year - Tax fraud costs this country 70 billion a year, I think it is you my friend who needs to get real.. They should start with Vodafone, Starbucks, Apple, I'm sure other people can name a few more companies who are making ££££ whilst thinking taxation doesn't apply to themselves.. Solent Soul
  • Score: 2

9:17am Sun 17 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.
I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.
bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean.
Mugabe created it, as you'd know if you read at all instead of wasting time on puerile abuse.
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?[/p][/quote]print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.[/p][/quote]I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.[/p][/quote]bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean.[/p][/quote]Mugabe created it, as you'd know if you read at all instead of wasting time on puerile abuse. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: -1

9:19am Sun 17 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

Solent Soul wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???
They're not "spanking those at the bottom" It's my group, being pushed into supertax, which is being spanked, which you'd acknowledge were you not a class warrior.
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?[/p][/quote]Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???[/p][/quote]They're not "spanking those at the bottom" It's my group, being pushed into supertax, which is being spanked, which you'd acknowledge were you not a class warrior. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: -2

9:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

Solent Soul wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?
Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???
These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense?
Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them .
Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real.
Benefit fraud costs the uk 1 billion a year - Tax fraud costs this country 70 billion a year, I think it is you my friend who needs to get real.. They should start with Vodafone, Starbucks, Apple, I'm sure other people can name a few more companies who are making ££££ whilst thinking taxation doesn't apply to themselves..
Benefit fraud costs you as a taxpayer. If corporations pay less tax that benefits you as a contributor to a pension fund. You grabbed your figures out of the air, That's fine. You're a class warrior. What else would you do? But the notion that the State can spend your cash better than you is pretty shakey. Anyway the coppers have hardly run out of cash if they can send EIGHT officers to a Berkshire apartment, having notified the BBC in advance, to search for clues , Inspector Closeau, to something which might or might not have happened before half the population of the UK was even born.
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Fair play, Liam Byrne didn't lie when he said "sorry the money's all gone". Have you any thoughts as to where Cameron should get more, given that the most aspirational are the most mobile and that middle earners have been financially crucified?[/p][/quote]Corporate tax avoidance has cost this country billions, I would suggest they start there! Oh hang on, the mps are the ones who are avoiding the payment of taxes owed as they are the ones who sit on the boards of directors for large companies & are already multi millionaires in their own right (over 20 of the current cabinet as it stands)! Best continue spanking those at the bottom, unless you have any better ideas???[/p][/quote]These corporations employ thousands who pay tax so lets hound these corporations out of this country & not only do we lose the tax they are legally not paying but we lose the Billions their employees are paying does that make financial sense? Welfare cheats are robbing all other tax payers because the tax we pay goes to them . Corporate taxes are taxes legally not paid for so they're not taking money from our pockets so let's get real.[/p][/quote]Benefit fraud costs the uk 1 billion a year - Tax fraud costs this country 70 billion a year, I think it is you my friend who needs to get real.. They should start with Vodafone, Starbucks, Apple, I'm sure other people can name a few more companies who are making ££££ whilst thinking taxation doesn't apply to themselves..[/p][/quote]Benefit fraud costs you as a taxpayer. If corporations pay less tax that benefits you as a contributor to a pension fund. You grabbed your figures out of the air, That's fine. You're a class warrior. What else would you do? But the notion that the State can spend your cash better than you is pretty shakey. Anyway the coppers have hardly run out of cash if they can send EIGHT officers to a Berkshire apartment, having notified the BBC in advance, to search for clues , Inspector Closeau, to something which might or might not have happened before half the population of the UK was even born. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: -1

10:25am Sun 17 Aug 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Don't need plod stations, just need the police out there catching those evil bast@rd$ driving 36 in a 30.
Don't need plod stations, just need the police out there catching those evil bast@rd$ driving 36 in a 30. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 1

4:26pm Sun 17 Aug 14

westhantsboy says...

mike coll wrote:
It would be nice to know how many coppers have taken the redundancy & early retirement option, as opposed to moving stations. where there is an easy way out I dont doubt the police will take it.
You need to educate yourself, no such thing as early retirement or redundancy for Police officers in Hampshire my friend.
[quote][p][bold]mike coll[/bold] wrote: It would be nice to know how many coppers have taken the redundancy & early retirement option, as opposed to moving stations. where there is an easy way out I dont doubt the police will take it.[/p][/quote]You need to educate yourself, no such thing as early retirement or redundancy for Police officers in Hampshire my friend. westhantsboy
  • Score: 1

5:28pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Niel says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.
Sounds ok, but even though they have to work together the Ambulance crews don't need the grief being based with the Police will create with some 'customers'. Their green uniform started in Northern Ireland, so the IRA could differentiate and not shoot them, put them in the same building and people will see them as an extension of the Police...
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: Bitterne , has been on reduced hours for ages , Portswood is also closing , and they have Swaythling and the FLOWER gardens on their doorstep . Central & Netley station s are now the MAIN stations for PLOD . Although the biggest CRIME is less full police officers looking after the CITY , and a increase in P.C.S.O. community police to keep us safe ! . Why oh WHY did nobody think years ago about the changes and incorporate POLICE / FIRE & AMBULANCE in 1 state of the art station with all the facilities . As you have the fire station and ambulance station literally opposite each other , and with day to day running going in with the firemen , it would of made more sense and been cost effective , to get more fully trained officers to POLICE our city.[/p][/quote]Sounds ok, but even though they have to work together the Ambulance crews don't need the grief being based with the Police will create with some 'customers'. Their green uniform started in Northern Ireland, so the IRA could differentiate and not shoot them, put them in the same building and people will see them as an extension of the Police... Niel
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Sun 17 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
Lord Palmerstone wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.
But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?
print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.
I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.
bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean.
Mugabe created it, as you'd know if you read at all instead of wasting time on puerile abuse.
you need educating on the private bank of england who lend money to the government at interest , . the government could print their own currency interest free ,look up the bradbury pound.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: Policing,like all other public services s being stripped down to the bone or removed due to current Government policy. Our society is being dismantled by the political class who don't live in the real world and that relates to current and previous Governments. Until their is a change in national politics to offer an alternative to the Tory/Labour choice, we will be stuck with more of the same.[/p][/quote]But higher public expenditure is impossible-and undesirable, since it is rarely well spent. What would you do?[/p][/quote]print debt free currency without paying the bank of england 75 billion in government debt interest per year ,simples.[/p][/quote]I think Genial Bobby Mugabe tried that Snug....d'oh.[/p][/quote]bobby mugabe was dealing with hyperinflation ,you are more lord haw haw than palmerstone old bean.[/p][/quote]Mugabe created it, as you'd know if you read at all instead of wasting time on puerile abuse.[/p][/quote]you need educating on the private bank of england who lend money to the government at interest , . the government could print their own currency interest free ,look up the bradbury pound. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 0

8:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

kaido says...

They should close Shirley police station. It's probably worth more than the one in Bitterne and is very close to Central Station, much closer than the one in Bitterne.
They should close Shirley police station. It's probably worth more than the one in Bitterne and is very close to Central Station, much closer than the one in Bitterne. kaido
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Sun 17 Aug 14

loosehead says...

Please can you posters who think there should be no cuts tell me how much does the UK Government pump into Scotland each year? How much revenue do we get from North Sea Oil? take the first one from the second & if the oil revenue is greater then explain to me how we're going to make up that shortfall in revenue?
Please can you posters who think there should be no cuts tell me how much does the UK Government pump into Scotland each year? How much revenue do we get from North Sea Oil? take the first one from the second & if the oil revenue is greater then explain to me how we're going to make up that shortfall in revenue? loosehead
  • Score: -2

10:48pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars!
Sorry it's not the government that's telling Police commissioners & chief Inspectors to shut stations or sack officers.
The government has cut red tape so less office work needs to be done so less Civvy's are needed & less Senior officers are needed but for some weird reason the Senior officers aren't being touched & as for their secretaries?
A decent Commissioner would have cut senior posts before cutting stations
Utter rubbish!

This is a direct result of the Tory-led Government cutting the Police budget, and to claim anything different is at variance with the truth.

If this had happened under a Labour Government, you can bet your life that loosehead would be screaming BLUE murder, claiming that no such thing would happen under the Tories who, when electioneering, said that they would be 'tough on crime.'

This action is not being tough on crime, just a case of making it more difficult to report a crime, and it being unlikely that the perpetrators of that crime would be brought to justice.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the government are pleased with these joint partnerships, considering it's them in Westminster who smashing the budgets of our essential frontline services to pieces! And if my memory serves me correctly that's something David Cameron said he wouldn't do in the Tories pre election manifesto.. Roll on 2015 so we get to vote in our next bunch of liars![/p][/quote]Sorry it's not the government that's telling Police commissioners & chief Inspectors to shut stations or sack officers. The government has cut red tape so less office work needs to be done so less Civvy's are needed & less Senior officers are needed but for some weird reason the Senior officers aren't being touched & as for their secretaries? A decent Commissioner would have cut senior posts before cutting stations[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish! This is a direct result of the Tory-led Government cutting the Police budget, and to claim anything different is at variance with the truth. If this had happened under a Labour Government, you can bet your life that loosehead would be screaming BLUE murder, claiming that no such thing would happen under the Tories who, when electioneering, said that they would be 'tough on crime.' This action is not being tough on crime, just a case of making it more difficult to report a crime, and it being unlikely that the perpetrators of that crime would be brought to justice. Linesman
  • Score: -1

7:40am Mon 18 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

"This is a direct result of the Tory-led Government cutting the Police budget, and to claim anything different is at variance with the truth"
If they can afford EIGHT coppers in a joint effort with the BBC to raid an apartment in Berkshire over something which might or might not have happened before the fall of the Soviet Union then they were extremely gentle "cuts" weren't they?
"This is a direct result of the Tory-led Government cutting the Police budget, and to claim anything different is at variance with the truth" If they can afford EIGHT coppers in a joint effort with the BBC to raid an apartment in Berkshire over something which might or might not have happened before the fall of the Soviet Union then they were extremely gentle "cuts" weren't they? Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 0

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