A £600,000 scheme to improve the A31 between Cadnam and the Verwood interchange is due to start next month

The scene on the A31 after 16-year-old moped rider Jade Clark was killed in a collision

The scene on the A31 after 16-year-old moped rider Jade Clark was killed in a collision

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Reporter, New Forest

ROAD safety campaigners have praised plans to cut the death rate on a notorious Hampshire road by installing scores of new signs.

Work on a £600,000 scheme to improve the A31 between Cadnam and the Verwood Interchange is due to start next week following a spate of fatal crashes.

Victims include 16-year-old moped rider Jade Clark, of Ringwood, who was killed in a hit-and-run accident last year.

Plans to install 70 new and replacement signs as well as carrying out other work will result in overnight closures of the A31, causing disruption for thousands of drivers. But campaigners say safety must come first.

Last year, members of Ringwood Town Council went to see Stephen Hammond, then transport minister, and demanded a raft of improvements including engineering works, new signs and a cut in the 70mph speed limit.

Mr Hammond said he was “minded” to introduce a 50mph limit but later ruled this out.

However, the Highways Agency has agreed to upgrade the signage in a bid to improve lane discipline and make motorists more aware of slip roads.

Ringwood councillor Michael Thierry said: “This scheme will go a long way to preventing drivers from saying they didn’t know what they were doing because the signs were inadequate.

“I’m sure we’ll still have accidents and sadly the occasional fatality, but the new signs will make the road safer.

“Credit must go to the town council, which battled away for a long time and never gave up. We asked – and on this occasion the Highways Agency has delivered.”

Agency official Philip Sheppard said the signs would help drivers select the correct lanes at the right time, avoiding last-minute manoeuvres.

Explaining the need to carry out overnight road closures, Mr Sheppard said the scheme would coincide with carriageway resurfacing and repairs to roadside drains.

Work is due to start on Monday, with the westbound carriageway between the M27 and the A338 Ringwood roundabout closing between 10pm and 6am.

Similar closures will take place on August 19, August 26, August 27, September 1 and September 2.

Overnight closures will also take place between Poulner Hill and the Verwood Interchange on August 28, September 3, September 4 and September 8.

Drivers travelling westbound will be diverted via the A326, A35, A3060 and A338. Similar closures will take place eastbound between the Ashley Heath roundabout and the M27 on August 20 and 21.

Drivers travelling eastbound will be diverted via the A338, A3060, A35 and A326.

  • CAMPAIGNERS stepped up their fight for improvements to the A31 following the death of Jade Clark.

The teenage hairdresser was travelling west along the A31 near Ringwood on the evening of February 21 last year when she was hit from behind by a Volvo XC90 driven by Brian Hampton, 58, of Ashford, Kent.

Daily Echo: TRAGEDY: Jade Clark

Jade Clark

The health and safety executive briefly stopped before driving off and leaving Jade exposed to fast-moving traffic.

He later tried to evade justice by arranging for the damage caused to his vehicle to be repaired without turning himself in.

Daily Echo: APPEAL: Brian Hampton

Brian Hampton

Hampton was jailed for four years at Bournemouth Crown Court for perverting the cause of justice and two for causing death by careless driving.

He later lost his appeal against his sentence.

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8:02am Sun 17 Aug 14

verwoodsaint says...

More signs !!!!!!!!! Drivers t take more responsibility for their actions is whats required...
More signs !!!!!!!!! Drivers t take more responsibility for their actions is whats required... verwoodsaint
  • Score: 10

8:27am Sun 17 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

Great – I love signs – they reduce the guesswork about where the idiots could come flying out from next. HaHaHa
Great – I love signs – they reduce the guesswork about where the idiots could come flying out from next. HaHaHa good-gosh
  • Score: -4

8:39am Sun 17 Aug 14

Frogham Ferret says...

Signs will not stop speeding, nor tired motorists driving down to the ridiculously short lane change area between the Co-op service station and the A338 turn off. That coupled with poor sight lines on the slip roads up from Ringwood mean that no matter how many signs, accidents will happen.

If we can't change the drivers then we must change the road!
Signs will not stop speeding, nor tired motorists driving down to the ridiculously short lane change area between the Co-op service station and the A338 turn off. That coupled with poor sight lines on the slip roads up from Ringwood mean that no matter how many signs, accidents will happen. If we can't change the drivers then we must change the road! Frogham Ferret
  • Score: 18

10:14am Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.
Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 7

10:35am Sun 17 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs
Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs mickey01
  • Score: 11

10:36am Sun 17 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.
It also happens on motorway junctions when idiots on the outside lane leave it until the last minute to join the inside lane traffic to leave at that junction
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.[/p][/quote]It also happens on motorway junctions when idiots on the outside lane leave it until the last minute to join the inside lane traffic to leave at that junction mickey01
  • Score: 4

10:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

Topographic says...

There have been many comments on this in the last few days.
600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!!
To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made.
All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow.
Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen.
People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least.
The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not.
I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists.
We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together.
The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.
There have been many comments on this in the last few days. 600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!! To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made. All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow. Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen. People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least. The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not. I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists. We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together. The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on. Topographic
  • Score: -5

10:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

befriendly says...

£600,000 on useless signs that will be mostly ignored. A few coffin shaped ones will have far more impact and be taken notice of and cost £550.000 less, but because they might upset some poor sensitive soul we'll spend more to make it sound good and achieve nothing.
£600,000 on useless signs that will be mostly ignored. A few coffin shaped ones will have far more impact and be taken notice of and cost £550.000 less, but because they might upset some poor sensitive soul we'll spend more to make it sound good and achieve nothing. befriendly
  • Score: 8

11:06am Sun 17 Aug 14

forest hump says...

Stop paying the problem lip-service. The A-31 should be made a motorway. Extend the M-27 westwards.....as far as possible. Problem is simple. Too many vehicles, not enough road. Increase volume of traffic, incidents will increase exponentially.
Stop paying the problem lip-service. The A-31 should be made a motorway. Extend the M-27 westwards.....as far as possible. Problem is simple. Too many vehicles, not enough road. Increase volume of traffic, incidents will increase exponentially. forest hump
  • Score: 2

11:06am Sun 17 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

Topographic wrote:
There have been many comments on this in the last few days.
600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!!
To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made.
All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow.
Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen.
People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least.
The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not.
I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists.
We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together.
The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.
You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.
[quote][p][bold]Topographic[/bold] wrote: There have been many comments on this in the last few days. 600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!! To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made. All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow. Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen. People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least. The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not. I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists. We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together. The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.[/p][/quote]You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name. Torchie1
  • Score: 5

11:09am Sun 17 Aug 14

saintsfan76 says...

Sad to see this photo used here. As rightly said above it was a moron who caused her death although i would be tempted to use a stronger word. I use this road on a fairly regular basis and for me its the road as you come down by Poulner Hill and bypass Ringwood that needs speed restictions on it maybe even a speed camera as well. Reduce the limit by at least 10mph. I think up to 70 signs ia way too excessive.
Sad to see this photo used here. As rightly said above it was a moron who caused her death although i would be tempted to use a stronger word. I use this road on a fairly regular basis and for me its the road as you come down by Poulner Hill and bypass Ringwood that needs speed restictions on it maybe even a speed camera as well. Reduce the limit by at least 10mph. I think up to 70 signs ia way too excessive. saintsfan76
  • Score: 9

11:16am Sun 17 Aug 14

espanuel says...

The problem with signs that people will only read what they want to read, and that goes on in all walks of life. And that goes for workplaces as well.
The problem with signs that people will only read what they want to read, and that goes on in all walks of life. And that goes for workplaces as well. espanuel
  • Score: 3

11:42am Sun 17 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.
Not the best way to do it.
Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth.

That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.[/p][/quote]Not the best way to do it. Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth. That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit. good-gosh
  • Score: 3

11:44am Sun 17 Aug 14

News Fanatic says...

mickey01 wrote:
Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs
You are right but having used this road regularly I have seen some terrible driving when motorists realise at the last minute they are in the wrong lane and heading in the wrong direction. However, it seems that the number of signs planned is excessive.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs[/p][/quote]You are right but having used this road regularly I have seen some terrible driving when motorists realise at the last minute they are in the wrong lane and heading in the wrong direction. However, it seems that the number of signs planned is excessive. News Fanatic
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Lord Palmerstone says...

mickey01 wrote:
Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs
In fact the creature was TOLD he was banned from driving and that he'd likely do time if he drove, so precious little chance of his even bothering to look at road signs.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: Poor jades death was due to a moron and not lack of signs[/p][/quote]In fact the creature was TOLD he was banned from driving and that he'd likely do time if he drove, so precious little chance of his even bothering to look at road signs. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: 4

12:33pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

good-gosh wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.
Not the best way to do it.
Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth.

That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit.
I was not condoning the practice but making an observation. What you suggest though means that most traffic will be doing 30 in the nearside lane while anyone stayng on the A31 wizzes by at 70. It ain't gonna happen buddy. You can rely on some of the drivers to drive sensibly all of the time but lots have only one objective which is to speed along in their comfy boxes to get to their destination as quick as possible and stuff everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.[/p][/quote]Not the best way to do it. Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth. That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit.[/p][/quote]I was not condoning the practice but making an observation. What you suggest though means that most traffic will be doing 30 in the nearside lane while anyone stayng on the A31 wizzes by at 70. It ain't gonna happen buddy. You can rely on some of the drivers to drive sensibly all of the time but lots have only one objective which is to speed along in their comfy boxes to get to their destination as quick as possible and stuff everyone else. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 3

12:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.
Not the best way to do it.
Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth.

That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit.
I was not condoning the practice but making an observation. What you suggest though means that most traffic will be doing 30 in the nearside lane while anyone stayng on the A31 wizzes by at 70. It ain't gonna happen buddy. You can rely on some of the drivers to drive sensibly all of the time but lots have only one objective which is to speed along in their comfy boxes to get to their destination as quick as possible and stuff everyone else.
OK. I see what you mean.
I always use the nearside lane for B'mouth and don’t mind dropping to 30 to merge with cars leaving Ringwood because everyone has to drop to 30 anyway, shortly after, in order to approach the B'mouth roundabout sensibly. The offside lane down Poulner Hill should be used only by traffic going straight on toward Poole. I agree that it is a bit complicated at that point but there are simple ways to deal with it all safely. Signage will help those who read them.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Drivers heading for the Bournemoth spur road will stay in the outside lane until the last minute to avoid slow traffic joining and leaving the junctions before. There seems to be acceptance that a few fatalities are OK when more could be done. A 50 limit would probably improve the flow of traffic and make the road a lot safer.[/p][/quote]Not the best way to do it. Drivers heading for Bournemouth need to be in the NEARSIDE lane down Poulner Hill, reducing speed to merge BEHIND any vehicles leaving Ringwood's two exits, also giving way to those leaving the garage if necessary and finally exiting left for Bournemouth. That procedure ensures there is no need to cross lanes anywhere there and results in a simple, orderly exit.[/p][/quote]I was not condoning the practice but making an observation. What you suggest though means that most traffic will be doing 30 in the nearside lane while anyone stayng on the A31 wizzes by at 70. It ain't gonna happen buddy. You can rely on some of the drivers to drive sensibly all of the time but lots have only one objective which is to speed along in their comfy boxes to get to their destination as quick as possible and stuff everyone else.[/p][/quote]OK. I see what you mean. I always use the nearside lane for B'mouth and don’t mind dropping to 30 to merge with cars leaving Ringwood because everyone has to drop to 30 anyway, shortly after, in order to approach the B'mouth roundabout sensibly. The offside lane down Poulner Hill should be used only by traffic going straight on toward Poole. I agree that it is a bit complicated at that point but there are simple ways to deal with it all safely. Signage will help those who read them. good-gosh
  • Score: -1

1:57pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder).
The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder). BeyondImagination
  • Score: -1

2:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder).
Oops, should read the nearside lane of a motorway is the most dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder).[/p][/quote]Oops, should read the nearside lane of a motorway is the most dangerous. BeyondImagination
  • Score: -1

3:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder).
Oops, should read the nearside lane of a motorway is the most dangerous.
The method you describe presents problems. It requires using 3 lanes consecutively for the manoeuvre – the fast outside lane to start the approach, then the nearside lane briefly for access over to the final exit lane to the roundabout. If the nearside lane speed is 30 (as you suggested it could be) you must first slow to 30 - WHILE STILL IN THE FAST LANE – in order to merge with the nearside stream - and that will obstruct everybody behind you. Having slowed to 30 in the fast lane, you then have to find a suitable gap in the nearside stream of traffic to merge into, and you are reliant entirely on either squeezing into a small gap or waiting for someone just behind to slow down to let you in. Most will let you in but it cannot be guaranteed – and you are now running into your last few seconds and still not on the slip road yet. All a bit fraught I think, for something which can be done with ease by using the nearside lane from the start.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: The road should be safe for motorists complying with the highway code. My tendency is to stay in the outside lane and move over adjacent to the slip road and use the roundabout. The outside lane is generally safer because the vehicles leaving and joining are in the nearside lane. It is well known the nearside lane of a motorway is the nearside (and the hard shoulder).[/p][/quote]Oops, should read the nearside lane of a motorway is the most dangerous.[/p][/quote]The method you describe presents problems. It requires using 3 lanes consecutively for the manoeuvre – the fast outside lane to start the approach, then the nearside lane briefly for access over to the final exit lane to the roundabout. If the nearside lane speed is 30 (as you suggested it could be) you must first slow to 30 - WHILE STILL IN THE FAST LANE – in order to merge with the nearside stream - and that will obstruct everybody behind you. Having slowed to 30 in the fast lane, you then have to find a suitable gap in the nearside stream of traffic to merge into, and you are reliant entirely on either squeezing into a small gap or waiting for someone just behind to slow down to let you in. Most will let you in but it cannot be guaranteed – and you are now running into your last few seconds and still not on the slip road yet. All a bit fraught I think, for something which can be done with ease by using the nearside lane from the start. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

3:47pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit.
Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

Oops, slip road is the last turning
Oops, slip road is the last turning BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

3:55pm Sun 17 Aug 14

good-gosh says...

OK - I agree it's much about the conditions at the time. It will be interesting to see what approach the new signage recommends.
OK - I agree it's much about the conditions at the time. It will be interesting to see what approach the new signage recommends. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

4:07pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit.
Right in most cases i follow a car travelling at 30 not sure where they are going or just enjoying the view and that can be worse than some driver doing 60 on the same road just trying to get to where they want to be and that is where the problem lies
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit.[/p][/quote]Right in most cases i follow a car travelling at 30 not sure where they are going or just enjoying the view and that can be worse than some driver doing 60 on the same road just trying to get to where they want to be and that is where the problem lies mickey01
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Niel says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Topographic wrote:
There have been many comments on this in the last few days.
600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!!
To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made.
All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow.
Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen.
People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least.
The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not.
I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists.
We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together.
The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.
You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.
The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Topographic[/bold] wrote: There have been many comments on this in the last few days. 600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!! To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made. All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow. Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen. People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least. The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not. I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists. We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together. The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.[/p][/quote]You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.[/p][/quote]The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer. Niel
  • Score: -3

6:11pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

Niel wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Topographic wrote:
There have been many comments on this in the last few days.
600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!!
To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made.
All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow.
Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen.
People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least.
The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not.
I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists.
We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together.
The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.
You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.
The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer.
I can appreciate your concerns but that scenario could equally easily be applied to any rural section of the motorway across the UK. As the law stands, a motorist (car, lorry, bus, motor-cycle) could be travelling at 70MPH along this stretch of the A31 and encounter a bicycle or moped rider trying to make their way quite legally across the two carriageways leading off to the A338 and the Verwood Road in order to make their way in the direction of Wimborne and Dorchester. Easy answer is to say that the motorist should keep their eyes open but move that incident to a wet dark night, add in the poor lighting on a moped and the penchant for no lights on a bicycle and how quickly would anyone pick up the rider? I don't ever recall seeing this as most would be clever enough to realise that this could be suicidal but a current licence held by the car driver probably wouldn't have prevented this accident. Had the rider passed her test and have been on something more likely to have matched the road speed, she could well have avoided an untimely death. if anything a prohibition on mopeds might speed up the gaining of the full licence and the knowledge that goes with it.
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Topographic[/bold] wrote: There have been many comments on this in the last few days. 600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!! To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made. All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow. Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen. People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least. The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not. I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists. We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together. The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.[/p][/quote]You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.[/p][/quote]The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer.[/p][/quote]I can appreciate your concerns but that scenario could equally easily be applied to any rural section of the motorway across the UK. As the law stands, a motorist (car, lorry, bus, motor-cycle) could be travelling at 70MPH along this stretch of the A31 and encounter a bicycle or moped rider trying to make their way quite legally across the two carriageways leading off to the A338 and the Verwood Road in order to make their way in the direction of Wimborne and Dorchester. Easy answer is to say that the motorist should keep their eyes open but move that incident to a wet dark night, add in the poor lighting on a moped and the penchant for no lights on a bicycle and how quickly would anyone pick up the rider? I don't ever recall seeing this as most would be clever enough to realise that this could be suicidal but a current licence held by the car driver probably wouldn't have prevented this accident. Had the rider passed her test and have been on something more likely to have matched the road speed, she could well have avoided an untimely death. if anything a prohibition on mopeds might speed up the gaining of the full licence and the knowledge that goes with it. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

mickey01 wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit.
Right in most cases i follow a car travelling at 30 not sure where they are going or just enjoying the view and that can be worse than some driver doing 60 on the same road just trying to get to where they want to be and that is where the problem lies
I'd rather use my own skill and judgement rather than rely on a short sighted 90 year old driving at 30.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Never had that problem because the slip road is not the last turning off there. The traffic is much lighter and speeds up. There's plenty of traffic moving into the slip road leaving space to move over safely and in good time. Only possible hazard is someone doing 30 because they think that's the best speed in a 70 limit.[/p][/quote]Right in most cases i follow a car travelling at 30 not sure where they are going or just enjoying the view and that can be worse than some driver doing 60 on the same road just trying to get to where they want to be and that is where the problem lies[/p][/quote]I'd rather use my own skill and judgement rather than rely on a short sighted 90 year old driving at 30. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

10:21pm Sun 17 Aug 14

BeyondImagination says...

Niel wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Topographic wrote:
There have been many comments on this in the last few days.
600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!!
To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made.
All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow.
Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen.
People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least.
The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not.
I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists.
We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together.
The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.
You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.
The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer.
Look on google maps and you will see local roads all through Ringwood including crossing the A31.

A lower speed limit will be applied eventually. It's a shame there will be more unnecessary fatalities before it happens.
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Topographic[/bold] wrote: There have been many comments on this in the last few days. 600k on a load of road signs. This could have been put to far better use!! To make a lasting memory for Jade Clark who sadly lost her life, peace be with her and her family, a proper change to the A31 Ringwood should be made. All the relevant authorities and people power should change the layout of roads. A united challenge is needed to close the link road by the Fish inn/Teaxco service station, allowing access only via a new road somehow. Anything can be done if enough thought and determination. Lets unite and make it happen. People can change this all parties need to be consulted and a Facebook campaign started in the very least. The world has change and the A31 at Ringwood has not. I challenge the relevant parties to unite and face up to the situation that exists. We read about this huge investment in the A338 apparently, it should all be linked together. The Jade Clark memorial road could be something that changes the A31 at Ringwood for decades, at lasting tribute that ensures that her memory lives on.[/p][/quote]You seem to have worked out everything except for the cost of the changes, the cost of the disruption while the changes are made and where the money will come from. The most cost effective solution to this one-off tragic accident would be to ban 30MPH Twist & Go mopeds from using a 70MPH highway that is a motorway in everything but name.[/p][/quote]The problem is there is no viable alternative route, for those on mopeds, bicycles or simply local traffic. Forging through a full on motorway and having to provide a proper LOCAL road system is the only answer.[/p][/quote]Look on google maps and you will see local roads all through Ringwood including crossing the A31. A lower speed limit will be applied eventually. It's a shame there will be more unnecessary fatalities before it happens. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

10:22am Mon 18 Aug 14

SAR-MEDIC says...

Peak traffic lights at the Fish would help! Not 600k on bloody signs!!! The more signs there are the less notice people will take!! It's driver error not speed!! When will these idiot councillors sit up and realise?? I've been to lots of RTC's on this road and every time driver error has been the factors!! Look at the stats councillors and stop being blinkered thinking signs are the answer!!!!
Peak traffic lights at the Fish would help! Not 600k on bloody signs!!! The more signs there are the less notice people will take!! It's driver error not speed!! When will these idiot councillors sit up and realise?? I've been to lots of RTC's on this road and every time driver error has been the factors!! Look at the stats councillors and stop being blinkered thinking signs are the answer!!!! SAR-MEDIC
  • Score: 3

12:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hampshire Corn and Bread says...

Have a look on Google street view of the junction...truly frightening when you see how close people are travelling together & even one car coming across the solid hatching to join.

No just signs I hope, but some physical alterations.
Have a look on Google street view of the junction...truly frightening when you see how close people are travelling together & even one car coming across the solid hatching to join. No just signs I hope, but some physical alterations. Hampshire Corn and Bread
  • Score: 0

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