Dog owner Alison Powell in court after her Staffordshire bull terrier attacked Yorkshire terrier puppy

Micky the Yorkshire terrier

Alison Powell

Dawn Wooldridge

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

HE was the playful puppy whose life was cut short by a dangerous dog during a trip to the park.

Micky, the seven-month-old Yorkshire terrier, was left wailing in agony when Ted, a four-year-old Staffordshire bull terrier, grabbed him by the throat with his mouth after the pooch excitedly ran up to him.

Now Ted’s owner Alison Powell has been slapped with a list of animal control measures after city magistrates found her dog to be dangerous.

Southampton Magistrates’ Court heard owner Dawn Wooldridge took Micky for anwalk around Riverside Park in Woodmill Lane on November 2 last year when she encountered Ms Powell walking her two Staffordshire bull terriers.

The court heard how Micky, who was not on a lead, inquisitively ran over to the two dogs after briefly playing with a Labrador being walked by Kelly Hill and Jonathan Bingham.

Ms Wooldridge, giving evidence, said: “Micky was a very friendly little dog.

“He ran towards a woman with two dogs and I heard him scream – one of the dogs had hold of him.

“He got free from the dog and ran away. He ran past me to a couple with their Labrador.”

She said she took a weeping Micky back to her car and wrapped him in a blanket before driving him to the vet.

Veterinary surgeon Ruth Tullie, who treated Micky after the attack, told the court how his condition continued to deteriorate and he went into cardiac and respiratory arrest.

The decision was then taken to put Micky down.

The court heard how Ms Powell was visited by animal welfare officer Paula Davies at her home in Dimond Road, Bitterne Park, after Ms Wooldridge gave a heartfelt appeal for information on the attack in the Daily Echo.

But Ms Davies said that Ted was in the kitchen during the visit and appeared friendly and calm.

Ms Powell told magistrates that she was just inches away from the incident as it unfolded, adding Ted did not grab Micky using his mouth and said his injuries could have occurred as her dog collided into Ms Wooldridge’s.

She said: “I noticed the Labrador playing with an excitable Yorkie.

Suddenly it came running and approaching my female dog.

“My other dog was returning from retrieving his toy. He came running in and there was a collision between him and the Yorkshire terrier, resulting in him rolling over.

“My dog pinned him to the ground. I went over and said ‘leave it’. He did and the Yorkshire Terrier ran off.”

Paul Vickers, chairman of the bench, revealed that an assessment from Lee Osgood, a dog assessor, found Ted to have dominant intentions, is defensive with other dogs, and has anxiety in public.

He said: “To us that says there’s always a risk that if another skittish dog comes along looking to play, even on a lead, the same thing might happen.

“We feel that the dog in question, Ted, is dangerous and was not under control on that day.”

He ordered Ted to wear a collar and a tag, a lead, and a muzzle when in public places.

After the hearing, Ms Wooldridge told the Daily Echo the decision was “justice for Micky”.

Ms Powell declined to comment.

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12:17pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Brite Spark says...

We should be grateful that it wasn't a playful toddler that ran excitedly towards the Staffies.
We should be grateful that it wasn't a playful toddler that ran excitedly towards the Staffies. Brite Spark
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1:58pm Fri 22 Aug 14

derek james says...

there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen
there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen derek james
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

burgerboy says...

derek james wrote:
there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen
All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse......
If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them.....
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen[/p][/quote]All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse...... If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them..... burgerboy
  • Score: 31

2:43pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Andy Locks Heath says...

Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.
Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly. Andy Locks Heath
  • Score: 26

4:16pm Fri 22 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.
i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people !
[quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.[/p][/quote]i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 19

4:42pm Fri 22 Aug 14

sparkster says...

I agree that dogs should be kept on a lead, there are extendable leads and if staffies or other breeds are volatile in nature, muzzle them before you take them out for a walk
I agree that dogs should be kept on a lead, there are extendable leads and if staffies or other breeds are volatile in nature, muzzle them before you take them out for a walk sparkster
  • Score: 18

4:48pm Fri 22 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

burgerboy wrote:
derek james wrote:
there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen
All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse......
If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them.....
It is sometimes the fact that they are on a lead that causes them to be more aggressive which i have found on many occasions when my dog has been on a lead and acts differently towards dogs when off the lead
[quote][p][bold]burgerboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen[/p][/quote]All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse...... If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them.....[/p][/quote]It is sometimes the fact that they are on a lead that causes them to be more aggressive which i have found on many occasions when my dog has been on a lead and acts differently towards dogs when off the lead mickey01
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Fri 22 Aug 14

wilson castaway says...

noodlesnewman wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.
i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people !
I have met your dog, wonderful creature!
[quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.[/p][/quote]i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people ![/p][/quote]I have met your dog, wonderful creature! wilson castaway
  • Score: 2

7:02pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Mary80 says...

Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble.

You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead
Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble. You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead Mary80
  • Score: 3

7:35pm Fri 22 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

wilson castaway wrote:
noodlesnewman wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.
i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people !
I have met your dog, wonderful creature!
ye he s a legend ! x
[quote][p][bold]wilson castaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: Another case of untrained dogs and a bad owner. All dogs require a clear understanding of where they stand in their "pack", and all dogs whether they are bull terriers or west highland whites need to be clear that they are not leaders. There are far too many owners who don't have any understanding of how their dogs see the world and their place in it. Incidents like this should result in compulsory retraining of both dog and owner as a condition of keeping the dog. I doubt if the bull terrier owner has learnt anything, from this, let alone feels responsible by not training her dogs properly.[/p][/quote]i ve lost count the amount of times off the lead dogs have attacked my japenese akita whilst he s on the lead but at nine stone these dogs dont hang around long , i d be scared stiff walking a small pup tho and would no way let my dog run up to strange dogs, never ever invade a strange dogs territory thats as a rule , take note you people that thinks it s ok ! your dog may be the loveliest most sociable ever but were some dogs get attacked it makes them very wary of strange dogs as is my dog now were he s been set on for no reason , i ve had staff crosses run over a hundred yards just to attack my dog in riverside park whilst walking my kids home from school , and then when her dog gets injured she shouts at me ! some people ![/p][/quote]I have met your dog, wonderful creature![/p][/quote]ye he s a legend ! x noodlesnewman
  • Score: 2

7:41pm Fri 22 Aug 14

noodlesnewman says...

Mary80 wrote:
Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble.

You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead
i had a pure breed staff for 12 years , amazing inteligent loyal freindly dog never hurt a fly , it s how you mould your dog !
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble. You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead[/p][/quote]i had a pure breed staff for 12 years , amazing inteligent loyal freindly dog never hurt a fly , it s how you mould your dog ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 5

10:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

thesouth says...

noodlesnewman wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble.

You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead
i had a pure breed staff for 12 years , amazing inteligent loyal freindly dog never hurt a fly , it s how you mould your dog !
True, I have a yorkie and if I were to get a second I would go for a staffi as they are such loving dogs. Unfortunately because of their appearance they are popular with sh*t bags who make them bad. At the end of the day ANY breed will be bad as long as the owner lets it
[quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Staffies MUST BE trained for months you CANNOT buy one and then not train them because without training people and other animals get hurt. Stop demonising the breed and demonise the morons who buy them and can't be bothered to train them which leads to trouble. You must be 100% dedicated in training them because otherwise they do act out and its not their fault. I know several people who have staffies and because they trained them they are lovely animals. If the media stopped stirring up people's paranoia and just made it very clear they just have to be trained then maybe things would be better. And dogs should be on the leash no matter what, sad the dog died but it really should have been on the lead[/p][/quote]i had a pure breed staff for 12 years , amazing inteligent loyal freindly dog never hurt a fly , it s how you mould your dog ![/p][/quote]True, I have a yorkie and if I were to get a second I would go for a staffi as they are such loving dogs. Unfortunately because of their appearance they are popular with sh*t bags who make them bad. At the end of the day ANY breed will be bad as long as the owner lets it thesouth
  • Score: 6

10:46pm Fri 22 Aug 14

derek james says...

mickey01 wrote:
burgerboy wrote:
derek james wrote:
there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen
All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse......
If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them.....
It is sometimes the fact that they are on a lead that causes them to be more aggressive which i have found on many occasions when my dog has been on a lead and acts differently towards dogs when off the lead
if the dog feels tension in the lead it will react with fear, fact is if the yorskire had been on the lead it would not have been able to run towards the staffordshire
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burgerboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: there is an element of blame with the yorkshire owner, to let such a small dog run off the lead towards other dogs, particularly staffies is inviting something like this to happen[/p][/quote]All dogs should be kept on a lead in public places ,no excuse...... If they are not on a lead how can you expect to be in control of them.....[/p][/quote]It is sometimes the fact that they are on a lead that causes them to be more aggressive which i have found on many occasions when my dog has been on a lead and acts differently towards dogs when off the lead[/p][/quote]if the dog feels tension in the lead it will react with fear, fact is if the yorskire had been on the lead it would not have been able to run towards the staffordshire derek james
  • Score: 3

11:34pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Imvuka says...

If anything, it sounds like the Staff pinned the Yorkie on it's back, which is common in the canine world. It is how they show dominance. I wouldn't be surprised if the shock of being told off and the weight of the Staffy was the real reason behind the death of the puppy.

Simple fact is, until puppies are trained to be respectable members of canine society, they should ALWAYS be kept on lead for their own safety.
If anything, it sounds like the Staff pinned the Yorkie on it's back, which is common in the canine world. It is how they show dominance. I wouldn't be surprised if the shock of being told off and the weight of the Staffy was the real reason behind the death of the puppy. Simple fact is, until puppies are trained to be respectable members of canine society, they should ALWAYS be kept on lead for their own safety. Imvuka
  • Score: 6

11:33am Sat 23 Aug 14

Time for truth says...

I have been reading all comments above, I have owned staffies since 1990. I have a good understanding of the breed, it's character, it's weaknesses and it's strengths, I have always trained my dogs within the 'pack' mentality. I DO not own this breed for it statues but for it's loving, loyal, family friendly attributes. My dogs are never allowed to run off, at any point in their lives, as puppies they were on flexi leads until I was 100% with recall, all my dogs have been well socialised with all breeds and sizes of dogs. My dogs walk to heel, recall, and walk behind me throu doors, they are not allowed to greet people when front door bell is rung, they stay in their beds until I allow them to say hello.
Can the owner of Mickey say the same?
I leave you this comment.. You have heard just one side of a story, a side that has had bits extracted to make juicy reading, mickeys owner admitted in court she DID NOT see what happened, the vets report states Mickey had NO injuries, no wounds, no puncture marks, no broken bones, no internal bleeding. So ask yourself this, if this 'attack' happened as reported surely a staffie would cause some injury to such a small vulnerable puppy????
The whole story WILL come out and not just one side then I wish you all, dog owners or non dog owners to judge!
I have been reading all comments above, I have owned staffies since 1990. I have a good understanding of the breed, it's character, it's weaknesses and it's strengths, I have always trained my dogs within the 'pack' mentality. I DO not own this breed for it statues but for it's loving, loyal, family friendly attributes. My dogs are never allowed to run off, at any point in their lives, as puppies they were on flexi leads until I was 100% with recall, all my dogs have been well socialised with all breeds and sizes of dogs. My dogs walk to heel, recall, and walk behind me throu doors, they are not allowed to greet people when front door bell is rung, they stay in their beds until I allow them to say hello. Can the owner of Mickey say the same? I leave you this comment.. You have heard just one side of a story, a side that has had bits extracted to make juicy reading, mickeys owner admitted in court she DID NOT see what happened, the vets report states Mickey had NO injuries, no wounds, no puncture marks, no broken bones, no internal bleeding. So ask yourself this, if this 'attack' happened as reported surely a staffie would cause some injury to such a small vulnerable puppy???? The whole story WILL come out and not just one side then I wish you all, dog owners or non dog owners to judge! Time for truth
  • Score: 2

11:56am Sat 23 Aug 14

Time for truth says...

I would alway like to add I have seen the dog behaviourists report and those words were being used in respect to the fact that ted has deformed back legs and has had a procedure called TIPPO and is plated and pinned, people who understand pack mentality will understand that ted is insecure because of this weakness he knows he has within his legs, his dominance is over his konk (carry device) that he carries (a lot of dogs do become very protective of toys) but when challenged by another dog ted acted in 'normal' way and not aggressive.
Please think on, would have this made so much media if it had been a Labrador or a large poodle or any dog weighting In over 5kg??
Again I have seen the vets report and it states ' Mickey was seen suffering from shock, ex rays show no internal injuries, broken bones or internal bleeding, no blood on him?
Now the owner of ted has stated there was a collision and ted reprimanding the puppy. Surely if more had happened there would have been something?
Because if not this could of happened to any dog owner of any breed..
I would alway like to add I have seen the dog behaviourists report and those words were being used in respect to the fact that ted has deformed back legs and has had a procedure called TIPPO and is plated and pinned, people who understand pack mentality will understand that ted is insecure because of this weakness he knows he has within his legs, his dominance is over his konk (carry device) that he carries (a lot of dogs do become very protective of toys) but when challenged by another dog ted acted in 'normal' way and not aggressive. Please think on, would have this made so much media if it had been a Labrador or a large poodle or any dog weighting In over 5kg?? Again I have seen the vets report and it states ' Mickey was seen suffering from shock, ex rays show no internal injuries, broken bones or internal bleeding, no blood on him? Now the owner of ted has stated there was a collision and ted reprimanding the puppy. Surely if more had happened there would have been something? Because if not this could of happened to any dog owner of any breed.. Time for truth
  • Score: 0

11:52pm Sat 23 Aug 14

realistic-usa says...

From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter.

Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial.

I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty
From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter. Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial. I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty realistic-usa
  • Score: 0

12:17am Sun 24 Aug 14

practicalone2 says...

To those who blame the small dog for approaching the Staffie:
to be consistent you must agree that it's acceptable to kill loose staffies that run up to humans then!

See how insane that sounds.

Attention all dog lovers. Let's stop breeding dogs specifically created to wantonly kill dogs.
To those who blame the small dog for approaching the Staffie: to be consistent you must agree that it's acceptable to kill loose staffies that run up to humans then! See how insane that sounds. Attention all dog lovers. Let's stop breeding dogs specifically created to wantonly kill dogs. practicalone2
  • Score: 0

12:59am Sun 24 Aug 14

Havocsdad says...

I agree with Time for Truth in so far that there are two sides to this and the echo has only reported one side.
I know the prejudice there is towards staffies and their owners .
Only snippets of the facts i feel have been reported in this case and because of that biased writing i fear the truth is being listened to.
Ultimately if the owner of the Yorkie didn't see what happened then she was not in control of her dog.
No injuries were found on that dog so it wasn't attacked in the way that the echo is suggesting.
A
I agree with Time for Truth in so far that there are two sides to this and the echo has only reported one side. I know the prejudice there is towards staffies and their owners . Only snippets of the facts i feel have been reported in this case and because of that biased writing i fear the truth is being listened to. Ultimately if the owner of the Yorkie didn't see what happened then she was not in control of her dog. No injuries were found on that dog so it wasn't attacked in the way that the echo is suggesting. A Havocsdad
  • Score: 1

1:00am Sun 24 Aug 14

now in the north says...

The York ie was off the lead. It was its owner that didn't have control. I work with farm dogs... and I can state with full knowledge that if the staffy were not being controlled they would not have stepped back from the smaller dog when commanded. I would think it was hard to trace the staffy owner because they were looking for a dog that attacked a York ie and it is clear that isn't how it happened.
The York ie was off the lead. It was its owner that didn't have control. I work with farm dogs... and I can state with full knowledge that if the staffy were not being controlled they would not have stepped back from the smaller dog when commanded. I would think it was hard to trace the staffy owner because they were looking for a dog that attacked a York ie and it is clear that isn't how it happened. now in the north
  • Score: 2

1:02am Sun 24 Aug 14

now in the north says...

Havocsdad wrote:
I agree with Time for Truth in so far that there are two sides to this and the echo has only reported one side.
I know the prejudice there is towards staffies and their owners .
Only snippets of the facts i feel have been reported in this case and because of that biased writing i fear the truth is being listened to.
Ultimately if the owner of the Yorkie didn't see what happened then she was not in control of her dog.
No injuries were found on that dog so it wasn't attacked in the way that the echo is suggesting.
A
If the owner of the York ie didn't see what happened she not only wasn't in control but also wasn't supervising it adequately
[quote][p][bold]Havocsdad[/bold] wrote: I agree with Time for Truth in so far that there are two sides to this and the echo has only reported one side. I know the prejudice there is towards staffies and their owners . Only snippets of the facts i feel have been reported in this case and because of that biased writing i fear the truth is being listened to. Ultimately if the owner of the Yorkie didn't see what happened then she was not in control of her dog. No injuries were found on that dog so it wasn't attacked in the way that the echo is suggesting. A[/p][/quote]If the owner of the York ie didn't see what happened she not only wasn't in control but also wasn't supervising it adequately now in the north
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8:44am Mon 25 Aug 14

Time for truth says...

Why would the owner of the staffie report a 'set too' in the park? How many people walk their dogs in a park and their dogs have 'disagreements' or 'upsets' with other dogs?? Surely it wasn't reported because no 'attack' (as reported) happened?
And since when was the local paper somewhere you reported anything too? If the Yorkie ran off it couldn't have been that injured, which is backed up in vets report. If a staffie had attacked such a small vulnerable puppy surely it would have been nothing left of it and certainly not able to run??
If you can't recall your dog don't walk it off the lead, regardless to age, breed, or how friendly!
Simple !
An who on earth would allow a toddler to walk up to ANY strange dog in the park??
Why would the owner of the staffie report a 'set too' in the park? How many people walk their dogs in a park and their dogs have 'disagreements' or 'upsets' with other dogs?? Surely it wasn't reported because no 'attack' (as reported) happened? And since when was the local paper somewhere you reported anything too? If the Yorkie ran off it couldn't have been that injured, which is backed up in vets report. If a staffie had attacked such a small vulnerable puppy surely it would have been nothing left of it and certainly not able to run?? If you can't recall your dog don't walk it off the lead, regardless to age, breed, or how friendly! Simple ! An who on earth would allow a toddler to walk up to ANY strange dog in the park?? Time for truth
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8:45am Mon 25 Aug 14

Time for truth says...

realistic-usa wrote:
From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter.

Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial.

I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty
Where you there?
[quote][p][bold]realistic-usa[/bold] wrote: From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter. Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial. I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty[/p][/quote]Where you there? Time for truth
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8:50am Mon 25 Aug 14

Time for truth says...

Time for truth wrote:
realistic-usa wrote:
From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter.

Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial.

I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty
Where you there?
Or the said attack didn't happen!
[quote][p][bold]Time for truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realistic-usa[/bold] wrote: From memory this owner fled the scene and was only traced following appeals. She was clearly trying to evade questioning. Hardly the actions of someone who feels that they had no fault in the matter. Her explanations in court had no credibility . Clearly she is in denial. I wish no animal owner I'll but the imposition of these control orders is the probably the best thing that could happen to her- next time she could be facing a much more serious penalty[/p][/quote]Where you there?[/p][/quote]Or the said attack didn't happen! Time for truth
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