Southampton port chiefs are working closely with the Border Force to fight smugglers following the Tilbury Docks incident

Port bosses pledge to keep fighting smugglers

Port bosses pledge to keep fighting smugglers

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

IT IS the gruesome discovery which has laid bare the lengths smugglers go to transport people into Britain.

The footage of stowaways emerging from a shipping container at Tilbury Docks, Essex, huddled in blankets and desperately breathing for air has sent shockwaves through the nation.

One of the 35 trapped Afghans died from the ordeal, while many fellow occupants – including 15 children – needed hospital treatment after spending an estimated 18 hours in the metal tomb on a ship travelling from Belgium.

Daily Echo: City Deal will allow major expansion of Southampton's port.

The port of Southampton

Two men from Northern Ireland have been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter and facilitating illegal entry into the UK.

But the incident has turned the spotlight on not just ferry ports, but also container ports in the battle to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country.

So as one of the county’s busiest container docks, how protected is the Port of Southampton to ensure a tragedy does not occur in Hampshire?

Policing the country’s borders in the battle against human trafficking, drug smuggling and counterfeit goods is a 24-hour operation.

Southampton is one of the country’s biggest container ports and prides itself as Europe’s most efficient.

Each year 1.5 million containers are handled at the port, with 39 million tonnes of cargo handled last year.

More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers.

Security is a mammoth operation overseen by the UK Border Force on behalf of Associated British Ports (ABP).

The force has a dedicated headquarters set up on site, but security measures start even before ships reach land.

The agency deploys five cutters and a surveillance aircraft patrolling the entire length of the country’s coast to intercept vessels suspected of drug shipments or illicit cargo.

Southampton is one of four British ports with officers stationed from the National Deep Rummage Team who can board vessels as they tie up and perform thorough searches.

Teams of sniffer dogs and officials on foot also check containers and vehicles passing in and out of the port.

Some containers and packages are opened and searched, while high-tech scanning equipment allows them to check loads externally.

Seizures in the past year have included £10m worth of counterfeit designer watches, belts and handbags, 1.2 million cigarettes, 1,134 decorative swords and 1,126 packages of counterfeit soft toys.

The force also works in partnership with HMRC, the National Crime Agency and Border Policing Command to share intelligence and improve methods.

Force director general Sir Charles Montgomery said: “Smugglers are trying increasingly sophisticated methods to circumvent the border.

“As a result we are constantly seeking to improve our methods of detection and identify new and more efficient ways of working.

“The force is the first line of defence in protecting the UK from serious and organised crime.

“The skill and experience of our officers helps keep drugs and other illegal goods out of the country and off our streets.”

Stuart Marsh, security and operations manager at the port, pictured, said: “We are committed to maintaining a safe and secure environment on the port estate and we work closely with our partners in the Border Force.”

Daily Echo:

ABP Southampton security and operations manager Stuart Marsh

Meanwhile a network of other forces help clamp down on human trafficking throughout the county and across the south.

Police in Hampshire were among forces saving nearly 600 suspected human trafficking victims in the first three months of this year alone.

Figures recorded by the National Crime Agency reveal 566 potential victims were identified in Britain up until March.

Two of these were referred to the authorities by Hampshire Constabulary.

The NCA figures show that of the 392 adults reported to the National Referral Mechanism – which assesses victims – 195 were discovered to have been trafficked.

The most common reason for adults being trafficked was sexual exploitation, cheap labour and domestic servitude, but one individual was transported for organ harvesting.

A Hampshire Constabulary spokesman urged the public to “look beneath the surface” to help track down those behind it.

He said: “Human trafficking destroys lives and damages communities, it is modern day slavery.

“Our priority is to protect vulnerable people at risk of abuse and violence by traffickers and criminals who exploit others for profit.”

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12:57pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

I like this bit.

More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers.

Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on.
I like this bit. More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers. Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on. southy
  • Score: -11

1:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

southy wrote:
I like this bit.

More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers.

Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on.
Far more Southy. If you watched the programme lately about the crew on a cruise liner you'd have found it's a pastime for all classes, not just lords and ladies.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I like this bit. More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers. Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on.[/p][/quote]Far more Southy. If you watched the programme lately about the crew on a cruise liner you'd have found it's a pastime for all classes, not just lords and ladies. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 8

1:24pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
southy wrote:
I like this bit.

More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers.

Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on.
Far more Southy. If you watched the programme lately about the crew on a cruise liner you'd have found it's a pastime for all classes, not just lords and ladies.
You missed the point the way the Echo says it, it sounds like if there as been 450 different cruise ships have called into Southampton, when I don't think that there is that many in the world.
Name all the Cruise ships that have called into Southampton in the last year and how many times.
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I like this bit. More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year, with the port handling 1.7 million passengers. Is there 450 cruise ships in the world, not as far as i know there is not, Surely there must be a better way of saying that the same ships have called in 450 times, and when I think about this figure of 450 it sounds if extra as been added on.[/p][/quote]Far more Southy. If you watched the programme lately about the crew on a cruise liner you'd have found it's a pastime for all classes, not just lords and ladies.[/p][/quote]You missed the point the way the Echo says it, it sounds like if there as been 450 different cruise ships have called into Southampton, when I don't think that there is that many in the world. Name all the Cruise ships that have called into Southampton in the last year and how many times. southy
  • Score: -12

3:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not. IronLady2010
  • Score: 11

3:27pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year southy
  • Score: -10

3:50pm Sat 23 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever? IronLady2010
  • Score: 11

4:16pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week southy
  • Score: -11

4:21pm Sat 23 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all. IronLady2010
  • Score: 9

4:45pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do southy
  • Score: -10

5:08pm Sat 23 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me! IronLady2010
  • Score: 8

6:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site southy
  • Score: -10

10:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

southampton999 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
There are at least 450 cruise ship movements annually through southampton docks. There are an average of 888 crew members on board and probably a similar number of passengers (I really don't know). It's a great boost to the city if southampton whichever way you look at it!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site[/p][/quote]There are at least 450 cruise ship movements annually through southampton docks. There are an average of 888 crew members on board and probably a similar number of passengers (I really don't know). It's a great boost to the city if southampton whichever way you look at it! southampton999
  • Score: 8

6:37am Sun 24 Aug 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

I just love the irony of Southy (of all people) to criticise the way someone else has written an article.
I just love the irony of Southy (of all people) to criticise the way someone else has written an article. 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 9

7:11am Sun 24 Aug 14

Solent Soul says...

Going off subject of this discussion for a moment I would like to add that boarder force control do a sterling job but things will get missed eventually. This is another area of the public sector that has been stripped to the bone with expectations of still delivering a faultless service. Roll on 2015 so we can vote in the next bunch of incompetent governors of this country...
Going off subject of this discussion for a moment I would like to add that boarder force control do a sterling job but things will get missed eventually. This is another area of the public sector that has been stripped to the bone with expectations of still delivering a faultless service. Roll on 2015 so we can vote in the next bunch of incompetent governors of this country... Solent Soul
  • Score: 2

9:53am Sun 24 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Solent Soul wrote:
Going off subject of this discussion for a moment I would like to add that boarder force control do a sterling job but things will get missed eventually. This is another area of the public sector that has been stripped to the bone with expectations of still delivering a faultless service. Roll on 2015 so we can vote in the next bunch of incompetent governors of this country...
If the Scots vote "yes" it'll be the same bunch. I hope they do better in getting value for money from the public sector. Any "cuts" have been negligible (and the 10 billion to foreign dictators of which Cameron says he's so proud is a disgrace) and the border control was inadequate already because NULabour wanted uncontrolled immigration. That's a mind-set yet to be defeated.
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: Going off subject of this discussion for a moment I would like to add that boarder force control do a sterling job but things will get missed eventually. This is another area of the public sector that has been stripped to the bone with expectations of still delivering a faultless service. Roll on 2015 so we can vote in the next bunch of incompetent governors of this country...[/p][/quote]If the Scots vote "yes" it'll be the same bunch. I hope they do better in getting value for money from the public sector. Any "cuts" have been negligible (and the 10 billion to foreign dictators of which Cameron says he's so proud is a disgrace) and the border control was inadequate already because NULabour wanted uncontrolled immigration. That's a mind-set yet to be defeated. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

10:34am Sun 24 Aug 14

phil maccavity says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
Good old Southy more imaginative posts.
One way of checking FACTS is to look on cruise websites
For example in May this year there were 56 cruise calls in Southampton
Look at Saturday 17th May, 6 ship calls in one day.
The following Saturday there were 5 cruise ships in port.
It is sad that Southy, with a supposed long family history in Southampton, never has anything positive to say about the place and seems to be dependent on picking up info from blokes down the chippy.
It must be such a sad and lonely life
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site[/p][/quote]Good old Southy more imaginative posts. One way of checking FACTS is to look on cruise websites For example in May this year there were 56 cruise calls in Southampton Look at Saturday 17th May, 6 ship calls in one day. The following Saturday there were 5 cruise ships in port. It is sad that Southy, with a supposed long family history in Southampton, never has anything positive to say about the place and seems to be dependent on picking up info from blokes down the chippy. It must be such a sad and lonely life phil maccavity
  • Score: 6

12:44pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
'Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site'

Could have fooled the rest of us.

Vanishing is exactly what you after being made to look the bigoted ignoramus you are.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site[/p][/quote]'Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site' Could have fooled the rest of us. Vanishing is exactly what you after being made to look the bigoted ignoramus you are. Shoong
  • Score: 6

1:10pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
This made me laugh! So a random guy that was probably thinking, god make this guy go away just rambles some words to keep you happy and you take it that he agrees with you? LOLOL
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site[/p][/quote]This made me laugh! So a random guy that was probably thinking, god make this guy go away just rambles some words to keep you happy and you take it that he agrees with you? LOLOL IronLady2010
  • Score: 5

1:25pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southampton999 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships?

The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.
It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way.
More than 450 cruises left the city last year
Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?
The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships.
Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week
No they don't suggest that at all.
They do
Copy and paste the evidence.

Or just run away again. You really frustrate me!
Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take,
Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site
There are at least 450 cruise ship movements annually through southampton docks. There are an average of 888 crew members on board and probably a similar number of passengers (I really don't know). It's a great boost to the city if southampton whichever way you look at it!
Lest we forget who predicted that the cruise industry was just a fad and that it would soon die off... can anyone guess who?
[quote][p][bold]southampton999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Southy, where does it say more than 450 'different' cruise ships? The port handled that amount wether the same returned or not.[/p][/quote]It don't if you had read what i posted you might just understand what I saying, What is happening is that they are handling the same ships over and over again, which the way the Echo puts it "More than 450 cruise ships visited the city last year" it would of been better to say it way. More than 450 cruises left the city last year[/p][/quote]Why, what difference does it make? They visit, they leave, do you expect them to stay for ever?[/p][/quote]The way it is said gives the immpression that there are 450 different cruise ships. Heres some thing else for you to think about how often do we get 8 to 9 passenger ships in every week, because that what 416 to 468 cruises would represent. 8 to 9 ships every week[/p][/quote]No they don't suggest that at all.[/p][/quote]They do[/p][/quote]Copy and paste the evidence. Or just run away again. You really frustrate me![/p][/quote]Just got back from the local chippy, and you know I am not the only one thinking like I am, one guy said they be lucky to have 6 ships in a week, and he would like to know where the Echo got the 450 from. He reacons 300 would be more about right give or take, Oh I don't run away just that I have other things to do than to hang around all day on this web site[/p][/quote]There are at least 450 cruise ship movements annually through southampton docks. There are an average of 888 crew members on board and probably a similar number of passengers (I really don't know). It's a great boost to the city if southampton whichever way you look at it![/p][/quote]Lest we forget who predicted that the cruise industry was just a fad and that it would soon die off... can anyone guess who? Shoong
  • Score: 4
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