Thousands of NHS workers are being balloted for industrial action over a pay dispute with the Government

NHS workers have already gone on strike this year over cuts to services

NHS workers have already gone on strike this year over cuts to services

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Health Reporter

Thousands of NHS workers in Hampshire could go on strike over a pay dispute.

More than 24,500 staff in the South East have been balloted including nurses, paramedics, therapists, cooks, cleaners and office workers.

UNISON members are being asked to vote yes in response to a NHS Pay Review Body recommendation to up wages by one per cent for all staff – which the union says has been ignored by the government.

Tony Jones, UNISON South East regional head of health said: “We all know the NHS relies on the good will of its staff. NHS workers have been badly hit by the rise in the cost of living and the Government’s move is unfair and deliberately provocative.

“The Government has gone too far; UNISON is balloting NHS workers and giving them the opportunity to make their voices heard and turn their anger into action.”

He added: “Voting for strike action is never an easy decision – even more so for NHS workers who spend their lives caring for people. But the Government’s refusal to give the vast majority any pay increase this year is a slap in the face.

“Staff are on average 10 per cent worse off than when the coalition came to power and this means their families are suffering and morale is hitting rock bottom. A well motivated workforce saves lives so we need to cherish and support our NHS staff who work day in day out caring for others.”

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1:07pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure.

My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services?

We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary.

I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses.

Good luck x
NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure. My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services? We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary. I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses. Good luck x IronLady2010
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure.

My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services?

We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary.

I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses.

Good luck x
Your first line says it all ......
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But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ...
.
The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure. My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services? We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary. I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses. Good luck x[/p][/quote]Your first line says it all ...... . But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ... . The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 14

1:32pm Thu 28 Aug 14

From the sidelines says...

Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere.

And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out.
Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere. And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out. From the sidelines
  • Score: -20

1:40pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure.

My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services?

We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary.

I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses.

Good luck x
Your first line says it all ......
.
But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ...
.
The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people
I happen to agree with you on this one.

But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts.

Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit.

The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure. My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services? We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary. I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses. Good luck x[/p][/quote]Your first line says it all ...... . But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ... . The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people[/p][/quote]I happen to agree with you on this one. But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts. Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit. The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for. IronLady2010
  • Score: 6

1:52pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure.

My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services?

We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary.

I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses.

Good luck x
Your first line says it all ......
.
But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ...
.
The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people
I happen to agree with you on this one.

But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts.

Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit.

The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for.
I thought that you agreed with everything i posted !!
.
Anyway i feel that government can find the money to pay these people.
.
There are many areas where they have presently wasted millions and millions on projects that are a failure yet overlook a "treasure" like the NHS.
.
But as i have said before the Tories dont care enough about it to worry ..
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure. My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services? We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary. I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses. Good luck x[/p][/quote]Your first line says it all ...... . But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ... . The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people[/p][/quote]I happen to agree with you on this one. But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts. Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit. The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for.[/p][/quote]I thought that you agreed with everything i posted !! . Anyway i feel that government can find the money to pay these people. . There are many areas where they have presently wasted millions and millions on projects that are a failure yet overlook a "treasure" like the NHS. . But as i have said before the Tories dont care enough about it to worry .. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 10

2:01pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure.

My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services?

We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary.

I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses.

Good luck x
Your first line says it all ......
.
But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ...
.
The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people
I happen to agree with you on this one.

But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts.

Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit.

The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for.
I thought that you agreed with everything i posted !!
.
Anyway i feel that government can find the money to pay these people.
.
There are many areas where they have presently wasted millions and millions on projects that are a failure yet overlook a "treasure" like the NHS.
.
But as i have said before the Tories dont care enough about it to worry ..
Haha, I don't always agree with you, but the NHS is something we should look after as a nation.

Because of my long term illness I have spent many times in hospital and have seen for myself how the nurses alone are often under pressure.

Many wards have 6 beds and only 2 nurses allocated to that ward. Imagine 2 elderley people who need there bed changed and a bed wash which takes up those two allocated nurses, the other 5 beds are neglected for quite some time.

But I guess who ever is in Government don't get to see this as they get all the luxuries and probably 5 nurses to themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: NHS staff do a remarkable job, often working under heavy pressure. My only issue here is with the threat of strike action, what would happen if we gave in, where would that additional income come from? Would that mean more job losses and cuts to even more services? We have all witnessed the mess of strike action within SCC and the pay restoration which reduced the City budget meaning even more cuts than were necessary. I hope some middle ground can be found and the issue resolved without and further cuts or job losses. Good luck x[/p][/quote]Your first line says it all ...... . But do you expect them them to do a remarkable job and screw the guts out of them ...... they have tried all avenues and have been ignored and dumped on even more .... Strike action is the final option ... . The NHS is being stuffed into the ground ... but the Tories dont care, but there again they never have about cared about REAL people[/p][/quote]I happen to agree with you on this one. But, as I said, if the pay increase goes ahead without any additional Government funding, would this force more job cuts. Let's be honest they won't cut jobs from the top as usual, it will be the frontline that takes the hit. The NHS is a National treasure and something we should be grateful for.[/p][/quote]I thought that you agreed with everything i posted !! . Anyway i feel that government can find the money to pay these people. . There are many areas where they have presently wasted millions and millions on projects that are a failure yet overlook a "treasure" like the NHS. . But as i have said before the Tories dont care enough about it to worry ..[/p][/quote]Haha, I don't always agree with you, but the NHS is something we should look after as a nation. Because of my long term illness I have spent many times in hospital and have seen for myself how the nurses alone are often under pressure. Many wards have 6 beds and only 2 nurses allocated to that ward. Imagine 2 elderley people who need there bed changed and a bed wash which takes up those two allocated nurses, the other 5 beds are neglected for quite some time. But I guess who ever is in Government don't get to see this as they get all the luxuries and probably 5 nurses to themselves. IronLady2010
  • Score: 7

2:17pm Thu 28 Aug 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere.

And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out.
Maybe that's why so many doctors and nurses - trained at great expense by the British taxpayer - are choosing to 'ply their trade' overseas. To a certain extent this deficit is being addressed by increasing reliance on cheap care workers recruited from overseas. Our care system is propped up by thousands of appallingly low paid workers and the whole edifice would collapse without the supply of EU and other migrant workers.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere. And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out.[/p][/quote]Maybe that's why so many doctors and nurses - trained at great expense by the British taxpayer - are choosing to 'ply their trade' overseas. To a certain extent this deficit is being addressed by increasing reliance on cheap care workers recruited from overseas. Our care system is propped up by thousands of appallingly low paid workers and the whole edifice would collapse without the supply of EU and other migrant workers. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 6

2:56pm Thu 28 Aug 14

StopMoaningPeople says...

All this moaning, yet they get a free education worth 30 grand! If you don't like it then get out!
All this moaning, yet they get a free education worth 30 grand! If you don't like it then get out! StopMoaningPeople
  • Score: -7

3:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

TruthTellerTomIV says...

If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!! TruthTellerTomIV
  • Score: -10

3:06pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Shoong says...

TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
[quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US. Shoong
  • Score: -3

3:10pm Thu 28 Aug 14

TruthTellerTomIV says...

Shoong wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness TruthTellerTomIV
  • Score: -5

3:12pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
Shoong wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness
Are you for real?
[quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness[/p][/quote]Are you for real? IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Thu 28 Aug 14

TruthTellerTomIV says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
Shoong wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness
Are you for real?
Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness[/p][/quote]Are you for real?[/p][/quote]Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours TruthTellerTomIV
  • Score: -8

3:16pm Thu 28 Aug 14

StopMoaningPeople says...

I don't get paid enough I'm gonna throw my toys out of the pram and STRIKE... OH WAIT I'll get sacked as I have a proper job that needs 24 hour service...
I don't get paid enough I'm gonna throw my toys out of the pram and STRIKE... OH WAIT I'll get sacked as I have a proper job that needs 24 hour service... StopMoaningPeople
  • Score: -11

3:19pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
Shoong wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness
Are you for real?
Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours
That's not the fault of nurses. They have paperwork to do for each patient as we have grown a culture of suing when the slightest thing goes wrong.

I have total respect for the nurses, they work hard under high pressure.
[quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness[/p][/quote]Are you for real?[/p][/quote]Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours[/p][/quote]That's not the fault of nurses. They have paperwork to do for each patient as we have grown a culture of suing when the slightest thing goes wrong. I have total respect for the nurses, they work hard under high pressure. IronLady2010
  • Score: 8

3:24pm Thu 28 Aug 14

TruthTellerTomIV says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
Shoong wrote:
TruthTellerTomIV wrote:
If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!!
Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.
Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness
Are you for real?
Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours
That's not the fault of nurses. They have paperwork to do for each patient as we have grown a culture of suing when the slightest thing goes wrong.

I have total respect for the nurses, they work hard under high pressure.
You clearly don't have enough intellect to know nurses are part of the Illuminati
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TruthTellerTomIV[/bold] wrote: If you want footballers wage then be a footballer! It's like wanting to play chess and just not doing it. LAZY!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not really - look up how much basketball and baseball players get paid in the US.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point, why don't nurses just train to be Basketball players. Only one reason, laziness[/p][/quote]Are you for real?[/p][/quote]Yes, all nurses to do is strike and when they are actually working there just leaving people in waiting rooms for hours[/p][/quote]That's not the fault of nurses. They have paperwork to do for each patient as we have grown a culture of suing when the slightest thing goes wrong. I have total respect for the nurses, they work hard under high pressure.[/p][/quote]You clearly don't have enough intellect to know nurses are part of the Illuminati TruthTellerTomIV
  • Score: -12

4:31pm Thu 28 Aug 14

aldermoorboy says...

More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS. aldermoorboy
  • Score: -4

4:43pm Thu 28 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.[/p][/quote]I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x IronLady2010
  • Score: 4

5:03pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
.... So they dont care for the NHS then ..... The Nurses are a part of the NHS.
.
The Tories dont care about the NHS
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.[/p][/quote].... So they dont care for the NHS then ..... The Nurses are a part of the NHS. . The Tories dont care about the NHS Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 5

5:10pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
How interesting that on another thread you post "stop the insults if someone has a different view to you." ....... practice what you preach as i know you will hate to be branded as a hypocrite !!
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.[/p][/quote]How interesting that on another thread you post "stop the insults if someone has a different view to you." ....... practice what you preach as i know you will hate to be branded as a hypocrite !! Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Thu 28 Aug 14

sentinal72 says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere.

And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out.
And there is the answer,

Terms and conditions of employment have been systematically eroded not by the worker but by the Tory government. the worker has fulfilled their part of the contract, the Government has not. So despite the goodwill the employee is being treated worse and worse. Cuddly Dave and his mates are determined to destroy the NHS for their personal gain. Creating unrest with the workforce is only part of that. Perhaps you could explain what you would do if your employer suddenly decided to change without consultation; your T&C's of employment in their favour?
Just accept it and do nothing or exercise your democratic rights?
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Here's the job, here's the salary. If you don't like it, you are free to ply your trade elsewhere. And don't let the door catch you in the backside on your way out.[/p][/quote]And there is the answer, Terms and conditions of employment have been systematically eroded not by the worker but by the Tory government. the worker has fulfilled their part of the contract, the Government has not. So despite the goodwill the employee is being treated worse and worse. Cuddly Dave and his mates are determined to destroy the NHS for their personal gain. Creating unrest with the workforce is only part of that. Perhaps you could explain what you would do if your employer suddenly decided to change without consultation; your T&C's of employment in their favour? Just accept it and do nothing or exercise your democratic rights? sentinal72
  • Score: 4

11:15pm Thu 28 Aug 14

sparkster says...

0ur nurses do a wonderful job and the paperwork that goes with each patient is phenominal, we'd be in a very sorry state if it wasnt for our nurses plus they go to people's homes and in my view are treated like ****
0ur nurses do a wonderful job and the paperwork that goes with each patient is phenominal, we'd be in a very sorry state if it wasnt for our nurses plus they go to people's homes and in my view are treated like **** sparkster
  • Score: 5

12:07am Fri 29 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x
Thats the proplem Labour, Tory's, Lib/Dems, have sold and giving parts of it away to the private sector, even the Greens, UKIP and BNP would sell the NHS, Its only the TUSC that will not but do the opposite rebuild the NHS back up to being the worlds best health service like it use to be, and its because of that the Corporations have gone to the UN, EU and UK Governments to try and make illegal, £50 million each day go to the Private sector with in the NHS, while the NHS gets cut backs.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.[/p][/quote]I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x[/p][/quote]Thats the proplem Labour, Tory's, Lib/Dems, have sold and giving parts of it away to the private sector, even the Greens, UKIP and BNP would sell the NHS, Its only the TUSC that will not but do the opposite rebuild the NHS back up to being the worlds best health service like it use to be, and its because of that the Corporations have gone to the UN, EU and UK Governments to try and make illegal, £50 million each day go to the Private sector with in the NHS, while the NHS gets cut backs. southy
  • Score: -8

1:28pm Fri 29 Aug 14

sammytsang says...

Anyone with ideas?

I found a website with pay rates http://www.nhscareer
s.nhs.uk/working-in-
the-nhs/pay-and-bene
fits/agenda-for-chan
ge-pay-rates/

Paid for the hours worked. I think the minimum rate NHS staff should be paid is £10 per hour. What do you think should be the maximum rate?

I think those working in the NHS and those not will give different answer on the maximum rate.

I also think those within the NHS at the bottom and top will give different answer on the maximum rate.
Anyone with ideas? I found a website with pay rates http://www.nhscareer s.nhs.uk/working-in- the-nhs/pay-and-bene fits/agenda-for-chan ge-pay-rates/ Paid for the hours worked. I think the minimum rate NHS staff should be paid is £10 per hour. What do you think should be the maximum rate? I think those working in the NHS and those not will give different answer on the maximum rate. I also think those within the NHS at the bottom and top will give different answer on the maximum rate. sammytsang
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

sammytsang says...

Person A, B & C work the same hours

Person A. earns £20,000 per year.
Person B. earns £50,000 per year.
Person C earns £100,000 per year.

If all 3 get a pay rise.

Option A. 1 percent increase for each person?
Or
Option B. £200 increase for each person?

Difficult to say what is more fair.
Person A, B & C work the same hours Person A. earns £20,000 per year. Person B. earns £50,000 per year. Person C earns £100,000 per year. If all 3 get a pay rise. Option A. 1 percent increase for each person? Or Option B. £200 increase for each person? Difficult to say what is more fair. sammytsang
  • Score: -1

11:15am Sat 30 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos.
Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.
I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x
Thats the proplem Labour, Tory's, Lib/Dems, have sold and giving parts of it away to the private sector, even the Greens, UKIP and BNP would sell the NHS, Its only the TUSC that will not but do the opposite rebuild the NHS back up to being the worlds best health service like it use to be, and its because of that the Corporations have gone to the UN, EU and UK Governments to try and make illegal, £50 million each day go to the Private sector with in the NHS, while the NHS gets cut backs.
You can blither on about the TUSC all you like, but they will never be more than a fringe party to be in a position to do anything about it so your comment is therefore irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: More Labour rubbish from Lone Ranger, Labour run NHS Wales, chaos. Tories care for the NHS, but I AGREE NURSES SHOULD BE BETTER PAID SO SHOULD CARERS.[/p][/quote]I feel all Parties care for the NHS, the problem is it's under pressure. x[/p][/quote]Thats the proplem Labour, Tory's, Lib/Dems, have sold and giving parts of it away to the private sector, even the Greens, UKIP and BNP would sell the NHS, Its only the TUSC that will not but do the opposite rebuild the NHS back up to being the worlds best health service like it use to be, and its because of that the Corporations have gone to the UN, EU and UK Governments to try and make illegal, £50 million each day go to the Private sector with in the NHS, while the NHS gets cut backs.[/p][/quote]You can blither on about the TUSC all you like, but they will never be more than a fringe party to be in a position to do anything about it so your comment is therefore irrelevant. Shoong
  • Score: 0
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