Kelly Ritchie tried to set fires in order to get new council flat in Southampton

Tenant jailed for trying to start fires in her own home

Kelly Ritchie

Copenhagen Towers

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Court Reporter

THIS is the serial arsonist who has been put behind bars for attempting to start fires in her home - in a bid to get the council to move her.

Kelly Ritchie made repeated calls to the police reporting someone was targeting her at her tower block flat.

But in fact the 25-year-old was setting the fires herself so she could get herself to a new council home.

Southampton Crown Court heard how Ritchie told police that she returned home to her flat in Copenhagen Towers in Weston one night to find an envelope which had been set alight as well as two cigarette butts.

Police took them away for examination and from DNA found on them, they arrested her neighbour who was detained overnight in the cells before being released without charge.

Two weeks later, Ritchie called police again to say lit paper had been put through her door when she was having a shower.

Following that incident, Southampton City Council installed a covert camera without Ritchie knowing.

When she again claimed smouldering paper had been pushed through her letterbox, the footage was examined by police.

Prosecutor Tom Wright told how when police examined the footage, they realised no one had been in the area at the time of the supposed arson attack and suspicion immediately fell on her.

She was arrested but refused to answer questions.

In court, Ritchie pleaded guilty to arson and attempting to pervert the course of justice and was jailed for 15 months.

In mitigation, Richard Martin said Ritchie had acted wholly out of character.

At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues.

She was now being treated for depression.

She had been the victim of anti-social behaviour and wasn't thinking rationally as things got on top of her.

He said "These were very small fires and what she did was appalling.

"It wasn't a personal vendetta. It had all the hallmarks of a cry for help."

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7:51am Sat 30 Aug 14

bigfella777 says...

Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes?
Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes? bigfella777
  • Score: 67

8:48am Sat 30 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes?
Couldn't agree more this is what the outcome of benefits and social housing bring people like this the handouts of society that's part of the problem people don't work because they don't have to they can sit on their arses getting paid for nothing and mugs like us who want to work and earn our money get nothing.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more this is what the outcome of benefits and social housing bring people like this the handouts of society that's part of the problem people don't work because they don't have to they can sit on their arses getting paid for nothing and mugs like us who want to work and earn our money get nothing. Kirsty666
  • Score: 35

10:06am Sat 30 Aug 14

jacob bumming says...

Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off.
People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight
Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off. People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight jacob bumming
  • Score: -50

10:44am Sat 30 Aug 14

riverbanks says...

jacob bumming wrote:
Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off.
People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight
Cry me a river.
[quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off. People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight[/p][/quote]Cry me a river. riverbanks
  • Score: 13

10:51am Sat 30 Aug 14

Huey says...

Her face looks as stupid as her crime. Genetic refuse.
Her face looks as stupid as her crime. Genetic refuse. Huey
  • Score: 28

11:00am Sat 30 Aug 14

solomum says...

Thank goodness she has been jailed. Living in a tower block, her actions put all the other tenants at risk. I hope she gets help for her Mental Health issues, but they are in no way an excuse for such dangerous behaviour.
Thank goodness she has been jailed. Living in a tower block, her actions put all the other tenants at risk. I hope she gets help for her Mental Health issues, but they are in no way an excuse for such dangerous behaviour. solomum
  • Score: 56

11:03am Sat 30 Aug 14

normal1965 says...

dog
dog normal1965
  • Score: 19

12:09pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

The Girl needs medical help
The Girl needs medical help southy
  • Score: 7

12:24pm Sat 30 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please mickey01
  • Score: 9

1:12pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Donald2000 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes?
Oh no. Spare me that political jargon for heavens sake.

Hard working people - straight out of the Conservative manifesto.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Why do they house trash like this when decent hard working people need homes?[/p][/quote]Oh no. Spare me that political jargon for heavens sake. Hard working people - straight out of the Conservative manifesto. Donald2000
  • Score: -28

1:35pm Sat 30 Aug 14

lindseyloo22 says...

To the people who are having a go at the people being controversial, this is Britain the same as every other place in the world. The truth of the matter is there are people out there that work their arses off and get no help with social housing which is much needed. Then you get people who sit on their arse and don't work because they are better off not working. There are plenty of people out there that deserve help and just don't get it whilst others do so where's the fairness??? A very difficult subject in all areas
To the people who are having a go at the people being controversial, this is Britain the same as every other place in the world. The truth of the matter is there are people out there that work their arses off and get no help with social housing which is much needed. Then you get people who sit on their arse and don't work because they are better off not working. There are plenty of people out there that deserve help and just don't get it whilst others do so where's the fairness??? A very difficult subject in all areas lindseyloo22
  • Score: 25

1:53pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Uberarticuno says...

Well she's probably going to get her way. I'm sure when she's let out in 7 months she'll have a different council flat readily available for her.
Well she's probably going to get her way. I'm sure when she's let out in 7 months she'll have a different council flat readily available for her. Uberarticuno
  • Score: 21

2:33pm Sat 30 Aug 14

shaunallen says...

Shame she didn't set herself alight.while putting other tenants at risk scum
Shame she didn't set herself alight.while putting other tenants at risk scum shaunallen
  • Score: 14

2:34pm Sat 30 Aug 14

shaunallen says...

Shame she didn't set herself alight.while putting other tenants at risk .SCUM
Shame she didn't set herself alight.while putting other tenants at risk .SCUM shaunallen
  • Score: -1

2:34pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where southy
  • Score: -3

2:38pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Proof?

I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc.

I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Proof? I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc. I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc. IronLady2010
  • Score: 4

3:13pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Proof?

I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc.

I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.
Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day.
Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount.
You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Proof? I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc. I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.[/p][/quote]Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day. Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount. You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work southy
  • Score: 0

3:18pm Sat 30 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

normal1965 wrote:
dog
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[quote][p][bold]normal1965[/bold] wrote: dog[/p][/quote]YAWN ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZ SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -3

3:21pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Proof?

I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc.

I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.
Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day.
Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount.
You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work
Show me the facts?

If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions.

Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Proof? I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc. I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.[/p][/quote]Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day. Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount. You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work[/p][/quote]Show me the facts? If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions. Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab. IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

3:25pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Proof?

I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc.

I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.
Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day.
Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount.
You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work
Show me the facts?

If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions.

Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab.
Just using Catering as an example, how many people are employed?

Pay them all Public Sector pensions and how much does that cost?

I'm pretty sure they don't contract out for no reason. x
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Proof? I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc. I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.[/p][/quote]Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day. Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount. You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work[/p][/quote]Show me the facts? If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions. Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab.[/p][/quote]Just using Catering as an example, how many people are employed? Pay them all Public Sector pensions and how much does that cost? I'm pretty sure they don't contract out for no reason. x IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

4:25pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Proof?

I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc.

I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.
Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day.
Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount.
You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work
Show me the facts?

If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions.

Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab.
Just using Catering as an example, how many people are employed?

Pay them all Public Sector pensions and how much does that cost?

I'm pretty sure they don't contract out for no reason. x
Do you not read the Echo articles well not just the Echo's or are you unable to retain information.
The number of people employed inside the NHS for meals is less but it cost the same as when the NHS employed its own people to do the meals, It is cheaper to do it direct than go though a contractor to supply, Pensions weather if it a public or private pension is deducted from wages as with state pensions is.
To the private sector making it cheaper don't come into there program all they need to be is cheaper than any other contractor, the NHS as been taken right out of the equation, they are not allowed to tender for any contracts. What is going on is all about the private sector getting there hands on state finanaces and its all about Privatation of every thing and that comes to the public at a higher cost. What is left of the NHS will soon be gone as the TTIP will ramsack what is left of the NHS.
Every thing is to run by Corporations, and not the state all will be in private hands and the cost will sky rocket once it is, Corporation run on Profit only.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Proof? I feel you are telling porkies again, remove the Private sector and the NHS will pick up the costs by employing direct with Public sector pensions etc. I treasure our NHS, but I can see why they contract out catering etc.[/p][/quote]Every Hospital food in England and Wales is contracted out to private Contractor, and all Private Contractors are at a high cost, Take away all the Private contractors and give that £50 million per day direct to the NHS they would only need around £20 million a day. Having private contractors in the NHS as increase the cost of the running of the NHS over 3 times the amount. You don't tresure nothing you are only trying to make it look like you do, If you did tresure the NHS then you would back the nurse and Doctors in there fight against the government private contractors, plus it is cheaper to hire and deal direct that having to go though contractors, not only you putting on the cost of the private contractors your also adding to the cost of training and even more admin work[/p][/quote]Show me the facts? If some services were directly employed by the NHS, surely we'd end up paying huge pensions. Surely using outside catering companies makes them liable for anything that goes wrong so the NHS doesn't pick up the tab.[/p][/quote]Just using Catering as an example, how many people are employed? Pay them all Public Sector pensions and how much does that cost? I'm pretty sure they don't contract out for no reason. x[/p][/quote]Do you not read the Echo articles well not just the Echo's or are you unable to retain information. The number of people employed inside the NHS for meals is less but it cost the same as when the NHS employed its own people to do the meals, It is cheaper to do it direct than go though a contractor to supply, Pensions weather if it a public or private pension is deducted from wages as with state pensions is. To the private sector making it cheaper don't come into there program all they need to be is cheaper than any other contractor, the NHS as been taken right out of the equation, they are not allowed to tender for any contracts. What is going on is all about the private sector getting there hands on state finanaces and its all about Privatation of every thing and that comes to the public at a higher cost. What is left of the NHS will soon be gone as the TTIP will ramsack what is left of the NHS. Every thing is to run by Corporations, and not the state all will be in private hands and the cost will sky rocket once it is, Corporation run on Profit only. southy
  • Score: -2

4:40pm Sat 30 Aug 14

thesouth says...

jacob bumming wrote:
Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off.
People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight
You accuse other of being judgemental yet you call southampton a multicultural hell hole........ Seems it is YOU that's judgemental? !!
Glad you have gone!!
[quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off. People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight[/p][/quote]You accuse other of being judgemental yet you call southampton a multicultural hell hole........ Seems it is YOU that's judgemental? !! Glad you have gone!! thesouth
  • Score: 19

5:30pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Almostheavenly says...

This is a one off case of someone doing this it's not as though it happens every day. This girl needs help not judgementle **** so what if she is unemployed that has no barring on the issue of what she has done also she didn't harm anyone except herself as now she has a new home just not one she really wanted let's all be happy that the council had the sense to put up the cameras in the beginning as now she is in a safe place for all concerned. its her neighbours I feel sorry for they were the ones who could of been put in danger by her actions no one else luckerly they caught her before the fires got bigger and did a lot of damage.
This is a one off case of someone doing this it's not as though it happens every day. This girl needs help not judgementle **** so what if she is unemployed that has no barring on the issue of what she has done also she didn't harm anyone except herself as now she has a new home just not one she really wanted let's all be happy that the council had the sense to put up the cameras in the beginning as now she is in a safe place for all concerned. its her neighbours I feel sorry for they were the ones who could of been put in danger by her actions no one else luckerly they caught her before the fires got bigger and did a lot of damage. Almostheavenly
  • Score: -9

5:59pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
Can we look at the figures for ourselves please, like a link or similar, would be an interesting read.

If you are unwilling to supply or do the usual 'look it up for yourself' trick we'll just assume you are using the NHS as a political football again.

Cheers. xxx
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]Can we look at the figures for ourselves please, like a link or similar, would be an interesting read. If you are unwilling to supply or do the usual 'look it up for yourself' trick we'll just assume you are using the NHS as a political football again. Cheers. xxx Shoong
  • Score: 5

7:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Jayne/Nemo says...

She's still got her own way. She's temporarily been rehoused in prison but what about when she is released, she'll been given another home.
She's still got her own way. She's temporarily been rehoused in prison but what about when she is released, she'll been given another home. Jayne/Nemo
  • Score: 2

7:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Joseph Public says...

southy wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
southy wrote:
The Girl needs medical help
no more wasted n h s money please
Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where
I rarely read the comments but when I do I note you usually try to give stories a political spin, normally with unsubstantiated "facts".

You really do churn out some c**p.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The Girl needs medical help[/p][/quote]no more wasted n h s money please[/p][/quote]Whats a little amount to what the Private Sectors waste each day with in the NHS, It cost the NI contribation and Tax payers £50 million a day to have the Private Sector in the NHS and that is a total waste of money that could of been better spent else where[/p][/quote]I rarely read the comments but when I do I note you usually try to give stories a political spin, normally with unsubstantiated "facts". You really do churn out some c**p. Joseph Public
  • Score: 5

7:45pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

@Southy.

Trying to convince hard line Tories, their supporters and "I am OK why should I care for the rest" types you are wasting your time. Most of these people are not stupid, they have their affiliations, so will justify everything policy of self confessed "Nast Party", which opposed Nye Bevan when he tried to create NHS.

We along with others who care for our fellow members of human race may not agree with their views but must accept that they have every right to hold, what we may think, obnoxiously selfish opinions.

But Peter, this news item is about an arsonist. Who has been found guilty by the court, because there was plenty of evidence against her. Sorry to disappoint you but unlike you I can't start sympathising with criminals.

She should think herself lucky that she was not charged for wasting police time as well, because she made plenty of false calls.

I beg to disagree with your indirect suggestion that she may have mental health problems. To me, who is not medical professional but ordinary layman, the criminal lady may have manipulative character.

Good job she was caught and booked.

I wish before sympathising for a convicted arsonist you'd asked yourself one simple question. "How would I feel if arsonist next door starts the fire that spread quickly and burnt even my house along with kids pets and everything including photographs which can't be replaced?"
@Southy. Trying to convince hard line Tories, their supporters and "I am OK why should I care for the rest" types you are wasting your time. Most of these people are not stupid, they have their affiliations, so will justify everything policy of self confessed "Nast Party", which opposed Nye Bevan when he tried to create NHS. We along with others who care for our fellow members of human race may not agree with their views but must accept that they have every right to hold, what we may think, obnoxiously selfish opinions. But Peter, this news item is about an arsonist. Who has been found guilty by the court, because there was plenty of evidence against her. Sorry to disappoint you but unlike you I can't start sympathising with criminals. She should think herself lucky that she was not charged for wasting police time as well, because she made plenty of false calls. I beg to disagree with your indirect suggestion that she may have mental health problems. To me, who is not medical professional but ordinary layman, the criminal lady may have manipulative character. Good job she was caught and booked. I wish before sympathising for a convicted arsonist you'd asked yourself one simple question. "How would I feel if arsonist next door starts the fire that spread quickly and burnt even my house along with kids pets and everything including photographs which can't be replaced?" Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 0

9:14pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Dimebag28 says...

Bet her minge is a right mess
Bet her minge is a right mess Dimebag28
  • Score: 7

8:37am Sun 31 Aug 14

freakout says...

Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon
Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon freakout
  • Score: 12

10:22am Sun 31 Aug 14

andysaints007 says...

jacob bumming wrote:
Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off.
People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight
Pr*ck
[quote][p][bold]jacob bumming[/bold] wrote: Oh in come the class basher, yeah them feckless people taking our money bore off. People who struggle to work who have mental issue get house in council housing to try and give them a chance in life. I'm so glad I don't live in such a judgmental community like Southampton. All people do is judge on this site benefits this benefits that. Southampton is a multicultural hell hole I'm so glad I left. Corrupt council and a paper that peddles class divide week in week out. Goodnight[/p][/quote]Pr*ck andysaints007
  • Score: 2

12:24pm Sun 31 Aug 14

forest hump says...

freakout wrote:
Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon
Take this case and multiply by god-knows how many hundreds of thousands and you will then understand why this country is in such a mess. We are now into the fourth generation of those whose only objective in life is to sponge. It is endemic. There are young, employed and motivated people out there who do not stand a chance of progressing on the housing ladder (which ever route is taken) because we put more emphasis on useless louts who have no desire to contribute in any way. Start making benefit claimants earn their sponge. Wash the streets, pick up litter...anything but scratch cards and booze.
[quote][p][bold]freakout[/bold] wrote: Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon[/p][/quote]Take this case and multiply by god-knows how many hundreds of thousands and you will then understand why this country is in such a mess. We are now into the fourth generation of those whose only objective in life is to sponge. It is endemic. There are young, employed and motivated people out there who do not stand a chance of progressing on the housing ladder (which ever route is taken) because we put more emphasis on useless louts who have no desire to contribute in any way. Start making benefit claimants earn their sponge. Wash the streets, pick up litter...anything but scratch cards and booze. forest hump
  • Score: 3

12:32pm Sun 31 Aug 14

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
@Southy.

Trying to convince hard line Tories, their supporters and "I am OK why should I care for the rest" types you are wasting your time. Most of these people are not stupid, they have their affiliations, so will justify everything policy of self confessed "Nast Party", which opposed Nye Bevan when he tried to create NHS.

We along with others who care for our fellow members of human race may not agree with their views but must accept that they have every right to hold, what we may think, obnoxiously selfish opinions.

But Peter, this news item is about an arsonist. Who has been found guilty by the court, because there was plenty of evidence against her. Sorry to disappoint you but unlike you I can't start sympathising with criminals.

She should think herself lucky that she was not charged for wasting police time as well, because she made plenty of false calls.

I beg to disagree with your indirect suggestion that she may have mental health problems. To me, who is not medical professional but ordinary layman, the criminal lady may have manipulative character.

Good job she was caught and booked.

I wish before sympathising for a convicted arsonist you'd asked yourself one simple question. "How would I feel if arsonist next door starts the fire that spread quickly and burnt even my house along with kids pets and everything including photographs which can't be replaced?"
All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: @Southy. Trying to convince hard line Tories, their supporters and "I am OK why should I care for the rest" types you are wasting your time. Most of these people are not stupid, they have their affiliations, so will justify everything policy of self confessed "Nast Party", which opposed Nye Bevan when he tried to create NHS. We along with others who care for our fellow members of human race may not agree with their views but must accept that they have every right to hold, what we may think, obnoxiously selfish opinions. But Peter, this news item is about an arsonist. Who has been found guilty by the court, because there was plenty of evidence against her. Sorry to disappoint you but unlike you I can't start sympathising with criminals. She should think herself lucky that she was not charged for wasting police time as well, because she made plenty of false calls. I beg to disagree with your indirect suggestion that she may have mental health problems. To me, who is not medical professional but ordinary layman, the criminal lady may have manipulative character. Good job she was caught and booked. I wish before sympathising for a convicted arsonist you'd asked yourself one simple question. "How would I feel if arsonist next door starts the fire that spread quickly and burnt even my house along with kids pets and everything including photographs which can't be replaced?"[/p][/quote]All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others southy
  • Score: -3

12:55pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

"All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others"
No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?
"All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others" No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit? Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -1

1:37pm Sun 31 Aug 14

southy says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
"All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others"
No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?
There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane.
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: "All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others" No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?[/p][/quote]There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane. southy
  • Score: 0

4:28pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Heinz Kiosk wrote:
"All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others"
No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?
There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane.
Southy,

What medical qualifications have you got to diagnose that the criminal arsonist lady is insane who needs medical help?

If she had any mental health issues, don't you think her lawyer/s would have tried to use that while mitigating on her behalf?

Fact: She was confronted with irrefutable evidence, so had no choice other than pleading guilty. That is why the judge decided to send her where she rightly belongs....... Prison
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: "All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others" No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?[/p][/quote]There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane.[/p][/quote]Southy, What medical qualifications have you got to diagnose that the criminal arsonist lady is insane who needs medical help? If she had any mental health issues, don't you think her lawyer/s would have tried to use that while mitigating on her behalf? Fact: She was confronted with irrefutable evidence, so had no choice other than pleading guilty. That is why the judge decided to send her where she rightly belongs....... Prison Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 4

10:11pm Sun 31 Aug 14

pretty in pink says...

She may have mental health issues but I have known her since I was a kid and she was a vindictive liar anything she came out with was a lie maybe prison is the best place for her to get help but like most people r saying she will probably get her own way when she's out and will get a new flat.
She may have mental health issues but I have known her since I was a kid and she was a vindictive liar anything she came out with was a lie maybe prison is the best place for her to get help but like most people r saying she will probably get her own way when she's out and will get a new flat. pretty in pink
  • Score: 6

10:17pm Sun 31 Aug 14

beiroot says...

forest hump wrote:
freakout wrote:
Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon
Take this case and multiply by god-knows how many hundreds of thousands and you will then understand why this country is in such a mess. We are now into the fourth generation of those whose only objective in life is to sponge. It is endemic. There are young, employed and motivated people out there who do not stand a chance of progressing on the housing ladder (which ever route is taken) because we put more emphasis on useless louts who have no desire to contribute in any way. Start making benefit claimants earn their sponge. Wash the streets, pick up litter...anything but scratch cards and booze.
I always thought a generation was 25 years. Is welfare benefits a 100 years old?
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freakout[/bold] wrote: Vile women .On bus with her last year .she was chatting away saying how much she hated living in a tower blockand how awful her neighbours were .and why should she work when her rent and council tax is paid (she was off to job centre her 2 weekly visit as she put it,She even mentioned her neighbour .well one above her ,who is on long term sick with depression ,she said she will try pull it off too so she dont have to sign on anymore ,.Waste of oxyegon[/p][/quote]Take this case and multiply by god-knows how many hundreds of thousands and you will then understand why this country is in such a mess. We are now into the fourth generation of those whose only objective in life is to sponge. It is endemic. There are young, employed and motivated people out there who do not stand a chance of progressing on the housing ladder (which ever route is taken) because we put more emphasis on useless louts who have no desire to contribute in any way. Start making benefit claimants earn their sponge. Wash the streets, pick up litter...anything but scratch cards and booze.[/p][/quote]I always thought a generation was 25 years. Is welfare benefits a 100 years old? beiroot
  • Score: 0

1:11am Mon 1 Sep 14

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Heinz Kiosk wrote:
"All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others"
No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?
There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane.
Southy,

What medical qualifications have you got to diagnose that the criminal arsonist lady is insane who needs medical help?

If she had any mental health issues, don't you think her lawyer/s would have tried to use that while mitigating on her behalf?

Fact: She was confronted with irrefutable evidence, so had no choice other than pleading guilty. That is why the judge decided to send her where she rightly belongs....... Prison
I not saying she don't belong in prison, but while there she needs to be seen by a head shink, most arsonist have this fashination with fire, I hoping that she don't have kids that was there when the she set alight fires.
Quote from the Echo
" In mitigation, Richard Martin said Ritchie had acted wholly out of character.
At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues.
She was now being treated for depression.

Seems they did Paramjit
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: "All that can be said as been said about her, But she need medical help, weather if she gets it in prison or not it would not matter to me, so long she gets medical help, no one in there right mind would lite a fire where it can be a threat to others" No one in their right mind who's in dispute with another" gangsta " in South London would fire an automatic pistol at him as a child was passing-you'd say, presumably, Southy. But they do. As you know. They're called criminals. This very unpleasant fire raiser is a criminal Southy, geddit?[/p][/quote]There are Criminals and there are those that are Criminally Insane.[/p][/quote]Southy, What medical qualifications have you got to diagnose that the criminal arsonist lady is insane who needs medical help? If she had any mental health issues, don't you think her lawyer/s would have tried to use that while mitigating on her behalf? Fact: She was confronted with irrefutable evidence, so had no choice other than pleading guilty. That is why the judge decided to send her where she rightly belongs....... Prison[/p][/quote]I not saying she don't belong in prison, but while there she needs to be seen by a head shink, most arsonist have this fashination with fire, I hoping that she don't have kids that was there when the she set alight fires. Quote from the Echo " In mitigation, Richard Martin said Ritchie had acted wholly out of character. At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues. She was now being treated for depression. Seems they did Paramjit southy
  • Score: -2

9:44am Mon 1 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Southy, the "gangstas "aren't criminally insane, which is why they get life when they're caught. This ill-favoured victim of the welfarism culture got prison time, not the insane asylum, so she's as bad as the Yardies. Get it now Southy?
"At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues.
She was now being treated for depression"
Like about 50% of the population at some time in their lives. Myself included, and I promise I won't incinerate you Southy old chap.. You're a National Monument.
Southy, the "gangstas "aren't criminally insane, which is why they get life when they're caught. This ill-favoured victim of the welfarism culture got prison time, not the insane asylum, so she's as bad as the Yardies. Get it now Southy? "At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues. She was now being treated for depression" Like about 50% of the population at some time in their lives. Myself included, and I promise I won't incinerate you Southy old chap.. You're a National Monument. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: -1

1:16pm Mon 1 Sep 14

southy says...

Heinz Kiosk wrote:
Southy, the "gangstas "aren't criminally insane, which is why they get life when they're caught. This ill-favoured victim of the welfarism culture got prison time, not the insane asylum, so she's as bad as the Yardies. Get it now Southy?
"At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues.
She was now being treated for depression"
Like about 50% of the population at some time in their lives. Myself included, and I promise I won't incinerate you Southy old chap.. You're a National Monument.
You need to come up to date a lot, it is rare for some one to be sent to Insane Asylum if theres any left now, many of these minor iflictions are treated in normal prison and have been for a while.
Wrong about gangstas some are mentally ill, Some are not.
And your depression don't mean your a fire riser, it will more likely you be efected by some other insane act that you would not normally do, depression effects people in different ways, Its like the Government Reform Act put (I believe the figure is) 10,000 plus into depression which at lest 1,600 took there lifes because of the actions of Government.
[quote][p][bold]Heinz Kiosk[/bold] wrote: Southy, the "gangstas "aren't criminally insane, which is why they get life when they're caught. This ill-favoured victim of the welfarism culture got prison time, not the insane asylum, so she's as bad as the Yardies. Get it now Southy? "At the time she had been suffering from the death of her father and undiagnosed low level mental health issues. She was now being treated for depression" Like about 50% of the population at some time in their lives. Myself included, and I promise I won't incinerate you Southy old chap.. You're a National Monument.[/p][/quote]You need to come up to date a lot, it is rare for some one to be sent to Insane Asylum if theres any left now, many of these minor iflictions are treated in normal prison and have been for a while. Wrong about gangstas some are mentally ill, Some are not. And your depression don't mean your a fire riser, it will more likely you be efected by some other insane act that you would not normally do, depression effects people in different ways, Its like the Government Reform Act put (I believe the figure is) 10,000 plus into depression which at lest 1,600 took there lifes because of the actions of Government. southy
  • Score: 0

1:33pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Hospital Order Southy. If she'd been mentally ill she'd have got one. She didn't.
Hospital Order Southy. If she'd been mentally ill she'd have got one. She didn't. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

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