Disabled Molly Brown, of Eastleigh, vows to take on Hampshire County Council after she is banned from parking on her drive

Council bans disabled woman from parking on her driveway

Council bans disabled woman from parking on her driveway

First published in News

A DISABLED woman has vowed to take on the council who has forbidden her from parking on her own driveway.

Molly Brown, who cannot walk without crutches or a walking stick, has been stopped from parking on her drive outside her Eastleigh home by bosses at Hampshire County Council.

This means that the 79-year-old, who has a permanent back injury, is forced to carry items to and from her car, which she has to park further away from her home on Whyteways.

Council chiefs argue the pavement Mrs Brown has to drive over to get closer to her home is used by schoolchildren and poses a risk to their safety.

But Mrs Brown, who has also had a hip replacement, has vowed to take her fight to the Prime Minister and the Queen, as she believes older people are too often taken advantage of.

“They say it’s for the pedestrians but I really can’t see the sense in any of this.

“I bring each bag in and I’m going to have to walk from the car six times, there and back.

“I feel very sorry for a lot of elderly people who won’t speak up for themselves. At this time in life we shouldn’t have to be fighting for things like this.”

A disabled space was provided in a car park adjacent to Mrs Brown’s house but she says the bay is not wide enough, meaning she has to step out on to the kerb, which she is uncomfortable with.

She also claims that in wet weather, the parking area is prone to flooding, making it dangerous to walk on.

Councillor Seán Woodward, executive member for economy, transport and environment at Hampshire County Council said it was not possible to put a parking bay right outside her house as the road does not reach that far.

He added: “The pavement Mrs Brown was driving over to get closer to her house is used daily by children walking to and from the two local schools in the area, and was suffering a good deal of damage.

“In order to ensure children could use the footpath safely, we let Mrs Brown and her neighbours know that we intended to install bollards, which we have now done.

“We will continue to work with Eastleigh Borough Council to see if there is anything further that can be done to help Mrs Brown.”

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1:18pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Good luck Mrs Brown!!

What a ridiculous excuse the Council have given when you often see cars parked on grass verges with no dropped kerb, I wonder if they'll tackle all those too?
Good luck Mrs Brown!! What a ridiculous excuse the Council have given when you often see cars parked on grass verges with no dropped kerb, I wonder if they'll tackle all those too? IronLady2010
  • Score: 23

1:42pm Sat 30 Aug 14

rickey says...

She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway.
She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway. rickey
  • Score: 23

1:56pm Sat 30 Aug 14

manimaul says...

The photo used by the Daily Echo is misleading. I had a look on Google Maps, as you do. In my opinion the council are absolutely correct in not allowing Mrs Brown to park here. As well as Mrs Brown having to drive along the pavement, not "over" as reported, the photo also negates to point out that there is a long wooden fence obscuring another path running along side the house. Such fence would obscure any young child riding a bike or toddler running past the house and as such does represent a significant risk.
The photo used by the Daily Echo is misleading. I had a look on Google Maps, as you do. In my opinion the council are absolutely correct in not allowing Mrs Brown to park here. As well as Mrs Brown having to drive along the pavement, not "over" as reported, the photo also negates to point out that there is a long wooden fence obscuring another path running along side the house. Such fence would obscure any young child riding a bike or toddler running past the house and as such does represent a significant risk. manimaul
  • Score: 21

1:57pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Uberarticuno says...

rickey wrote:
She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway.
Looking at the street there are loads of cars parked on their driveway so the only reason I can see the council disagreeing is if what you say is correct. Why haven't they shown a picture of where she usually parks/her driveway that she is apparently not allowed to drive on?
[quote][p][bold]rickey[/bold] wrote: She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway.[/p][/quote]Looking at the street there are loads of cars parked on their driveway so the only reason I can see the council disagreeing is if what you say is correct. Why haven't they shown a picture of where she usually parks/her driveway that she is apparently not allowed to drive on? Uberarticuno
  • Score: 5

2:14pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Donald2000 says...

So sick of these people taking advantage. I want my own private helicopter to take me from home and return, three square meals a day, a private bus and limo. More than that, I want to be able to park where I will smash the pavements and get in the way of small children.

What's good for this lady is good enough for me.
So sick of these people taking advantage. I want my own private helicopter to take me from home and return, three square meals a day, a private bus and limo. More than that, I want to be able to park where I will smash the pavements and get in the way of small children. What's good for this lady is good enough for me. Donald2000
  • Score: 7

2:18pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Cyber__Fug says...

Uberarticuno wrote:
rickey wrote:
She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway.
Looking at the street there are loads of cars parked on their driveway so the only reason I can see the council disagreeing is if what you say is correct. Why haven't they shown a picture of where she usually parks/her driveway that she is apparently not allowed to drive on?
The reason for not showing a correct photo is so that the Southern Daily Joke can sensationalise a non story!
[quote][p][bold]Uberarticuno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rickey[/bold] wrote: She has not been banned from parking in her drive, she has been stopped from driving up a pathway to get to her driveway. Her house fronts onto a pavement / grassed area and there is no road in front of her house. To get to her driveway she has to leave the road and drive up the pathway.[/p][/quote]Looking at the street there are loads of cars parked on their driveway so the only reason I can see the council disagreeing is if what you say is correct. Why haven't they shown a picture of where she usually parks/her driveway that she is apparently not allowed to drive on?[/p][/quote]The reason for not showing a correct photo is so that the Southern Daily Joke can sensationalise a non story! Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 15

2:23pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb. IronLady2010
  • Score: 9

2:41pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady. southy
  • Score: -6

3:28pm Sat 30 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Who said she was poor?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Who said she was poor? IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

3:37pm Sat 30 Aug 14

normal1965 says...

SAD
SAD normal1965
  • Score: -2

3:49pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Bitterne Roger says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n
7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m
djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never. Bitterne Roger
  • Score: 24

4:24pm Sat 30 Aug 14

ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com says...

manimaul wrote:
The photo used by the Daily Echo is misleading. I had a look on Google Maps, as you do. In my opinion the council are absolutely correct in not allowing Mrs Brown to park here. As well as Mrs Brown having to drive along the pavement, not "overThink we are all confusing the Daily Echo with real newspapers !!!
[quote][p][bold]manimaul[/bold] wrote: The photo used by the Daily Echo is misleading. I had a look on Google Maps, as you do. In my opinion the council are absolutely correct in not allowing Mrs Brown to park here. As well as Mrs Brown having to drive along the pavement, not "overThink we are all confusing the Daily Echo with real newspapers !!! ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com
  • Score: 7

5:05pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southy says...

Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n

7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m

djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify.
[quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify. southy
  • Score: -11

5:31pm Sat 30 Aug 14

forest hump says...

I'm sure the Prime Minister and the Queen will leap into action!
I'm sure the Prime Minister and the Queen will leap into action! forest hump
  • Score: 4

6:50pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Zexagon says...

Shop online and get the supermarket to deliver to the door. This will then prevent poor old Molly putting extra strain on her already painful agonising back
Shop online and get the supermarket to deliver to the door. This will then prevent poor old Molly putting extra strain on her already painful agonising back Zexagon
  • Score: 12

6:52pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Pragmatist55 says...

Good luck to you!

Sadly there are far too many people like Councilor Woodward. Total Jobsworth without no ability to think laterally
Good luck to you! Sadly there are far too many people like Councilor Woodward. Total Jobsworth without no ability to think laterally Pragmatist55
  • Score: -8

7:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

southbourne lover says...

Zexagon wrote:
Shop online and get the supermarket to deliver to the door. This will then prevent poor old Molly putting extra strain on her already painful agonising back
Quite agree, one of the major supermarkets only charge £1 delivery, she would save that in fuel and her cars running costs. That of course is assuming she has access to the internet!
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: Shop online and get the supermarket to deliver to the door. This will then prevent poor old Molly putting extra strain on her already painful agonising back[/p][/quote]Quite agree, one of the major supermarkets only charge £1 delivery, she would save that in fuel and her cars running costs. That of course is assuming she has access to the internet! southbourne lover
  • Score: 6

7:49pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Pragmatist55 says...

Maybe Councilor Woodward or one of his staff would like to do her shopping for her. Doubt he is very busy.
Maybe Councilor Woodward or one of his staff would like to do her shopping for her. Doubt he is very busy. Pragmatist55
  • Score: -3

8:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

robj1969 says...

Pragmatist55 wrote:
Good luck to you!

Sadly there are far too many people like Councilor Woodward. Total Jobsworth without no ability to think laterally
He's not a jobsworth, he cannot been seen to be agreeing to a breach of the law - see the following from the highway code:

145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34


From the photo links above, lawful access does not apply here.....
[quote][p][bold]Pragmatist55[/bold] wrote: Good luck to you! Sadly there are far too many people like Councilor Woodward. Total Jobsworth without no ability to think laterally[/p][/quote]He's not a jobsworth, he cannot been seen to be agreeing to a breach of the law - see the following from the highway code: 145 You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency. Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34 From the photo links above, lawful access does not apply here..... robj1969
  • Score: 7

9:15pm Sat 30 Aug 14

huckit P says...

I drive over a pavement to get into my house and hundreds of schoolchildren use the pavement in the morning and afternoon. Sorry, but the council excuse doesn't sound right. However, if, as some posters suggest, the lady is driving along a foot path, that is in contravention of current law.
Going off at a tangent on this, at one time driving or parking on the pavement would get the driver a ticket but it seems to be an accepted practice now. Never mind the people that have to go into the road to get around parked cars. Some drivers are so selfish is beggars belief.
I drive over a pavement to get into my house and hundreds of schoolchildren use the pavement in the morning and afternoon. Sorry, but the council excuse doesn't sound right. However, if, as some posters suggest, the lady is driving along a foot path, that is in contravention of current law. Going off at a tangent on this, at one time driving or parking on the pavement would get the driver a ticket but it seems to be an accepted practice now. Never mind the people that have to go into the road to get around parked cars. Some drivers are so selfish is beggars belief. huckit P
  • Score: -3

9:30pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Pragmatist55 says...

Surely when these houses were built the issue of access was addressed? I wonder what the land registry deeds say.
Surely when these houses were built the issue of access was addressed? I wonder what the land registry deeds say. Pragmatist55
  • Score: -4

9:43pm Sat 30 Aug 14

robj1969 says...

Pragmatist55 wrote:
Surely when these houses were built the issue of access was addressed? I wonder what the land registry deeds say.
Yes there are communal car parks
[quote][p][bold]Pragmatist55[/bold] wrote: Surely when these houses were built the issue of access was addressed? I wonder what the land registry deeds say.[/p][/quote]Yes there are communal car parks robj1969
  • Score: 1

9:51pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Stubs says...

I suggest the lady to buy a tank and knock down the bollards . I bet it's some stupid young baby faced council person being a jobs worth.
I suggest the lady to buy a tank and knock down the bollards . I bet it's some stupid young baby faced council person being a jobs worth. Stubs
  • Score: -8

10:17pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Uberarticuno says...

Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n

7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m

djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them.

I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers?
[quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them. I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers? Uberarticuno
  • Score: 5

8:59am Sun 31 Aug 14

House Sparrow says...

Uberarticuno wrote:
Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n


7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m


djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them.

I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers?
Disabled parking spaces are not deignated to an individual. Anyone with a blue disabled badge may use them.
[quote][p][bold]Uberarticuno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them. I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers?[/p][/quote]Disabled parking spaces are not deignated to an individual. Anyone with a blue disabled badge may use them. House Sparrow
  • Score: 2

10:19am Sun 31 Aug 14

downfader says...

southy wrote:
Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n


7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m


djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify.
Drop kerbs do not change legal status. Drop kerbs can be put in for disabled access, wheel chairs etc. The council have already clarified the legal status of that section of path she's been using....

...I would hazard a guess that the "drop kerb" might have been put in to help said lady get from her car had it not looked like a case or poor surfacing instead..
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify.[/p][/quote]Drop kerbs do not change legal status. Drop kerbs can be put in for disabled access, wheel chairs etc. The council have already clarified the legal status of that section of path she's been using.... ...I would hazard a guess that the "drop kerb" might have been put in to help said lady get from her car had it not looked like a case or poor surfacing instead.. downfader
  • Score: 1

11:06am Sun 31 Aug 14

mickey01 says...

get a mobility scooter
get a mobility scooter mickey01
  • Score: 1

11:58am Sun 31 Aug 14

forest hump says...

House Sparrow wrote:
Uberarticuno wrote:
Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n



7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m



djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them.

I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers?
Disabled parking spaces are not deignated to an individual. Anyone with a blue disabled badge may use them.
Correct, disabled spaces are for any blue badge holder. Looking at the photograph offered in an earlier post, the white lines that have been painted to designate "disabled" is a home job. It looks anything but an "official" disabled space.
[quote][p][bold]House Sparrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Uberarticuno[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]Those pictures show very clearly that she should not be parking there. Thank you for the pictures and for clarifying the article with them. I don't suppose you know whether that disabled parking space is hers?[/p][/quote]Disabled parking spaces are not deignated to an individual. Anyone with a blue disabled badge may use them.[/p][/quote]Correct, disabled spaces are for any blue badge holder. Looking at the photograph offered in an earlier post, the white lines that have been painted to designate "disabled" is a home job. It looks anything but an "official" disabled space. forest hump
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2:32pm Sun 31 Aug 14

southy says...

downfader wrote:
southy wrote:
Bitterne Roger wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.
Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her.
Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.
Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n



7mg59o

Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m



djjxu3

So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them.

The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.
If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify.
Drop kerbs do not change legal status. Drop kerbs can be put in for disabled access, wheel chairs etc. The council have already clarified the legal status of that section of path she's been using....

...I would hazard a guess that the "drop kerb" might have been put in to help said lady get from her car had it not looked like a case or poor surfacing instead..
sorry to say but it do, drop kerbs are for excess, To block it is an offence, No it was built like that first time round when the estate was built, you can see that on Google maps
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bitterne Roger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Some valid points above, Based on the photo I assumed it was just an issue of no dropped kerb.[/p][/quote]Drop curb was what I was thinking about, if there is one then the council as not rights to stop her, if there is not one then the council as every right to stop her. Might be worth the Echo while to get a picture of the curb as well as the poor old lady.[/p][/quote]Here's what it looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/n 7mg59o Here's a 2009 photo showing her car parked in her front garden: http://tinyurl.com/m djjxu3 So, as people have said, the Echo's photo, along with the article, and especially the headline, are entirely misleading. Shame on them. The real story is not that the council have banned her from parking on her driveway. Rather, she doesn't have a driveway, nor vehicular access to her house, so was never allowed to park there in the first place. Since when was somebody allowed to drive along a footpath? Since never.[/p][/quote]If you look at the your link to the first photo, the kerb is a drop one runs level with the road even where the pavement and the beging of the grass its still a drop kerb, there is a set of bollards running across the grass that are located in such away it will not block off the houses from cars driving up and parking infront of there homes, this could become very ify.[/p][/quote]Drop kerbs do not change legal status. Drop kerbs can be put in for disabled access, wheel chairs etc. The council have already clarified the legal status of that section of path she's been using.... ...I would hazard a guess that the "drop kerb" might have been put in to help said lady get from her car had it not looked like a case or poor surfacing instead..[/p][/quote]sorry to say but it do, drop kerbs are for excess, To block it is an offence, No it was built like that first time round when the estate was built, you can see that on Google maps southy
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3:22pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Pragmatist55 says...

Trust a council Jobsworth to create problems! !!

Small minded people doing a small minded job
Trust a council Jobsworth to create problems! !! Small minded people doing a small minded job Pragmatist55
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3:42pm Sun 31 Aug 14

kaido says...

I wonder what Easleigh council would make of tue parking situation along Shirley High Street or to a lesser extent Thornhill Park Road. It's quite common place for cars to be driving along pavements in Shirley sometimes at speed. You can be walking along and a car suddenly jumps out from beside you. Meanwhile cyclists get condemned, fined if they dare to cycle on the pavements. :)
I wonder what Easleigh council would make of tue parking situation along Shirley High Street or to a lesser extent Thornhill Park Road. It's quite common place for cars to be driving along pavements in Shirley sometimes at speed. You can be walking along and a car suddenly jumps out from beside you. Meanwhile cyclists get condemned, fined if they dare to cycle on the pavements. :) kaido
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3:55pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Ozmosis says...

"Council bans disabled woman from parking on her driveway"

More like, Council tells disabled woman to stop parking her car on slabs in her front garden to which she has no vehicular right of access.

Having seen the pictures another poster put up (thanks), I'm fully with the Council on this one
"Council bans disabled woman from parking on her driveway" More like, Council tells disabled woman to stop parking her car on slabs in her front garden to which she has no vehicular right of access. Having seen the pictures another poster put up (thanks), I'm fully with the Council on this one Ozmosis
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4:46pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Pragmatist55 says...

That is the point Kaldo. Parking is not enforced rigorously because of the sheer volume of road users. Often questionable parking occurs on major high speed thoroughfares. In this case a council Jobsworth has decided a 79 year old disabled woman is a soft target so they have gone for her. That is what is inequitable about this decision.
That is the point Kaldo. Parking is not enforced rigorously because of the sheer volume of road users. Often questionable parking occurs on major high speed thoroughfares. In this case a council Jobsworth has decided a 79 year old disabled woman is a soft target so they have gone for her. That is what is inequitable about this decision. Pragmatist55
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1:35am Mon 1 Sep 14

Pragmatist55 says...

I'd suggest that the council jobs worth calls to see her and try to help her. That would be a good gesture. If he goes on the way he is Molly might drive over his foot though! Lol
I'd suggest that the council jobs worth calls to see her and try to help her. That would be a good gesture. If he goes on the way he is Molly might drive over his foot though! Lol Pragmatist55
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6:42pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Mr Cynical says...

It's a shame that Southampton city council isnt so proactive about illegal and dangerous parking.

Fully agree with council in this case - it's as clear a case of dangerous driving as you could see -doesnt matter if she is only doing walking speed on the pavement, a toddler would stand no chance under the wheels.
It's a shame that Southampton city council isnt so proactive about illegal and dangerous parking. Fully agree with council in this case - it's as clear a case of dangerous driving as you could see -doesnt matter if she is only doing walking speed on the pavement, a toddler would stand no chance under the wheels. Mr Cynical
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4:38pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Pragmatist55 says...

I'm sure the little Jobsworth is rubbing his hands in glee at all the power he he is showing. One day his mum might be in the same position and he will be the first to whine about it.

Typical Jobsworth attitude
I'm sure the little Jobsworth is rubbing his hands in glee at all the power he he is showing. One day his mum might be in the same position and he will be the first to whine about it. Typical Jobsworth attitude Pragmatist55
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