"Southampton City PCT director of public health Andrew Mortimore said that child dental health in Southampton was particularly poor and getting worse, with more than a third of five-year-olds having decayed, missing or filled teeth.

He said: There is plenty of evidence that proves fluoridation can reduce dental decay."

There is also plenty of evidence that brushing twice a day and a healthy diet reduces dental decay. Fix those problems and we will not need additional flouride in our water.

''Southampton City PCT director of public health Andrew Mortimore said that child dental health in Southampton was particularly poor and getting worse, with more than a third of five-year-olds having decayed, missing or filled teeth.

He said: "There is plenty of evidence that proves fluoridation can reduce dental decay."


I also suggest that there is plenty of evidence to suggest kids teeth are rotting through junk food and drink.

again we are pandering to the scrounger lot. They are too lazy to clean their teef, so put something in the water to help them

I have used bottle water for years - both in England and Spain - because I refuse to have this disgusting addative in my water. People who say we shouldn't be stupid enough to pay for bottled water are welcome to the poison they drink but I'd sooner pay and enoy my water ... and health.

In Spain you can't drink the tap water anyway. But when did a bit of Fluorode ever do anyone any harm?

25 years ago in Southampton schools the dental health people came into the schools to cover the topic of teeth and dental health. Firms like Colgate provided a small tube of tooth paste and tooth brush for each pupil.
The children (year 7s or 8s)were shown how to clean their teeth properly by checking them with a disclosing tablet (This when chewed then spat out showed up any places where their teeth wern't clean by leaving a red stain whih came away when the teeth were brushed properly.
At that time southampton children had exellent teeth so the Dental Health people stopped doing this. Maybe they should start going into schools and make children aware of the benefits of looking after their teeth as they did years ago.

Did you know the thatcher goverment wanted to put fluride in the water during the miners strikes, because it acted as a depressant, they said they wanted to do it to keep peoples teeth healthy,

randson112 wrote:
Did you know the thatcher goverment wanted to put fluride in the water during the miners strikes, because it acted as a depressant, they said they wanted to do it to keep peoples teeth healthy,

You are absolutely right. Fluoride is a poison. Watch these videos before you say yes to the proposals:

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=3-ho282kv

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http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=CDx5C_6Rf

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Modern science shows that fluoridation is ineffective, harmful to health and a waste of money

for more info:

Fluoridation 101

http://www.orgsites.
com/ny/nyscof

Fluoridation News Releases
http://tinyurl.com/6
kqtu

Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas
http://www.fluoriden
ews.blogspot.com/

Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideA
ction.Net

Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideR
esearch.Org

I'm only 30 but I can remember those plaque stain tablets we were given in schools.

I agree with what you say about fluoride being a depressant. I have learned from reliable alternative media sources that fluoride was put in the water in concentration camps in Germany and Russia to make the prisoners docile and obedient. Putting aside all other negative and questionable characteristics of fluoride compounds, that alone should have people running for their lives. If people had any sense and were properly informed, instead of being dumbed down by our worthless education system, then there would be nationwide mass rioting and demands for the authorities to cease this nonsense immediately.

One has to wonder about the fact that the only nations in the world doing water fluoridation are those that are demonstrating the highest degree of martial law tendancies and domineering goverments, either for a long time already or now on the rise. I cannot help but become paranoid when I consider that the main nations promoting fluoridation are US, UK and Australia - all the first world countries that are ruled by the same elite. Interesting isn't it? Most of world rejects fluoridation, either as unfounded or outright dangerous. We should too!

Please, do something to publicise how dangerous it is to add fluoride to water. It would be tragic if in years time we are counting how many lives were lost from the ridiculous policy of intervention.

Why is it that we dont swallow toothpaste? Because to do so would ingest too much fluoride.

There is no good reason why people should be forced to ingest fluoride

There will be thousands of parents who will not be able to allow their child to drink tap water again and be forced to buy bottled water if they do not want their children to drink this poison. This is disgraceful, and an outrage.
Its also unaffordable for most parents who wish to stop their children drinking this poison.

Its very simple to see why fluoride should not be added to water:

after all, why should we not swallow toothpaste, why is it meant to be rinsed away? because you shouldnt swallow the flouride

http://www.nlm.nih.g
ov/medlineplus/ency/
article/002745.htm

What are the health impacts? Well unfortunately fluoride water 'causes cancer'

http://observer.guar
dian.co.uk/uk_news/s
tory/0,,1504672,00.h
tml

It is not forgiveable to kill some children just because some other parents are not that good at promoting oral hygiene of their children. At the end of the day childrens teeth fall out, and are replaced byb adult teeth, if there are a few fillings so what. It does not justify condemning others to death from osteosarcoma.

Fluoride in tap water can cause bone cancer in boys, a disturbing new study indicates, although there is no evidence of a link for girls.
New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma - bone cancer - bet-ween the ages of 10 and 19.

In the UK, fluoride is added to tap water on the advice of bodies such as the British Dental Association. The Department of Health maintains that it is a cost-effective public health measure that helps prevent tooth decay in children.

About 10 per cent of the population, six million people, receive fluoridated water, mainly in the Midlands and north-east, and the government plans to extend this, with Manchester expected to be next. About 170 million Americans live in areas with fluoridated water.
The increased cancer risks, identified in a newly available study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health, were found at fluoride exposure levels common in both the US and Britain. It was the first examination of the link between exposure to the chemical at the critical period of a child's development and the age of onset of bone cancer.

Although osteosarcoma is rare, accounting for only about 3 per cent of childhood cancers, it is especially dangerous. The mortality rate in the first five years is about 50 per cent, and nearly all survivors have limbs amputated, usually legs.

The research has been made available by the Environmental Working Group (EWG), a respected Washington-based research organisation. The group reports that it has assembled a 'strong body of peer-reviewed evidence' and has asked that fluoride in tap water be added to the US government's classified list of substances known or anticipated to cause cancer in humans.

'This is a very specific cancer in a defined population of children,' said Richard Wiles, the group's co-founder. 'When you focus in and look for the incidence of tumours, you see the increase.

'We recognise the potential benefits of fluoride to dental health,' added Wiles, 'but I've spent 20 years in public health, trying to protect kids from toxic exposure. Even with DDT, you don't have the consistently strong data that the compound can cause cancer as you now have with fluoride.'

Half of all fluoride ingested is stored in the body, accumulating in calcifying tissue such as teeth and bones and in the pineal gland in the brain, although more than 90 per cent is taken into the bones.

MPs who have recently voted against fluoridation proposals in Parliament include Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, and Michael Howard, the Conservative leader.

Anti-fluoride campaigners argue that the whole issue has become highly politically sensitive. If health scares about fluoride were to be recognised in the courts, the litigation, especially in the US, could be expected to run for decades. Consequently, scientists have been inhibited from publicising any adverse findings.

The new evidence only emerged by a circuitous process. It was contained in a Harvard dissertation by Dr Elise Bassin at the Harvard School of Dental Medicine. The dissertation, completed in April 2001, obviously had merit because Bassin was awarded her doctorate.

However it has not been published. Environmental organisations were repeatedly denied access to it, and even bodies such as the US National Academy of Sciences could not get hold of a copy. Eventually two researchers from the Fluoride Action Network were allowed to read it in the rare books and special collections room at Harvard medical library.

Bassin told The Observer her work was still going through the peer-review process, and she hopes that it will then be published.

Dr Vyvyan Howard, senior lecturer in toxico-pathology at the University of Liverpool, has studied the new material.

'At these ages the bones of boys are developing rapidly,' he said, 'so if the bones are being put together abnormally because fluoride is altering the bone structure, they're more likely to get cancer. It's biologically plausible, and the epidemiological evidence seems pretty strong - it looks as if there's a definite effect.'

There is at present no understanding as to why males should be affected rather than females.


http://observer.guar
dian.co.uk/uk_news/s
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and what does can the fluoride in toothpaste do if ingested. This is why we dont swallow it! There will be no choice once it is in water.

http://www.nlm.nih.g
ov/medlineplus/ency/
article/002745.htm

Toothpaste overdose

This is poisoning from swallowing a lot of toothpaste.

Poisonous Ingredient

Sodium fluoride
Triclosan

Symptoms Return to top

For fluoride:

Heart and blood
Convulsions
Slow heart rate
Cardiac arrest
Lungs
Breathing difficulty (shallow respiration)
Gastrointestinal
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Abdominal pain
Nervous system
Shock
Tremors
Weakness
Eyes, ears, mouth, and throat
Salivation
Salty or soapy taste