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Trouble at mill for ex-city MP


A FORMER Southampton MP has been likened to a “19th-century mill owner” for calling for the abolition of the national minimum wage.

Tory, Christopher Chope, who represented Southampton Itchen from 1983 to 1992, when he was ousted by Labour’s John Denham, said that “freely consenting adults” should be able to choose to take jobs that paid less than the £5.73 per hour legal minimum.

Mr Chope, who now represents the Dorset constituency of Christchurch, told the House of Commons that allowing bosses to slash workers’ wages would save small businesses by reducing overheads in the retail and hospitality sectors, where firms were “going down like ninepins”.

Alan Whitehead, Labour MP for Southampton Test, said it was “sad” to hear a former city MP proposing such action: “It was like hearing a 19th-century mill owner telling us why child labour was such a good thing for family budgets,” he added. “The minimum wage has protected and helped millions. Not many people remember now that it was people like Chris Chope who said at the time it came in that it would be the ruin of the economy. It wasn’t then and isn’t now.

“It is very sad to hear these arguments rerun and very worrying when a senior Conservative puts them forward as possible future policy.”


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thedeerhunter270, Highfield says...
8:59am Sat 14 Feb 09

How about, as his employer (we the tax payers) we pay him 2 pounds an hour. Seems fair to me?

Dazzz, Southampton says...
9:05am Sat 14 Feb 09

I agree with him..... and if you want to employ migrant workers pay them the same as they would be earning in thier own country and do not make thier salaries up with handouts, that would also help solve the immigration problem.

damien thorn, west end says...
9:47am Sat 14 Feb 09

i would pay the mug 1 pound a hour and lessons in humanity,he will be judged by greater powers one day.

10 Minute Man, Bitterne says...
9:59am Sat 14 Feb 09

What a spanner, he clearly has no idea. The minimum wage is a way of 'helping'/forcing increased levels of employment, not less. General taxation doesn't have to make up such a big shortfall and people are actually earning what they take home instead of a pittance+big state handouts.

I'm *guessing* he might own a business which would love to get its hands on lots of unskilled chumps and force them to work for peanuts his pockets rather than pay them properly and share the benefits of success with someone else. Just speculating though, he may be a jolly nice chap

fatboy, Southampton says...
10:08am Sat 14 Feb 09

he said this while sitting in his ivory tower, I remember when Chope'y knocked on the wrong dorr while campaigning and got chinned!

The bloke who did this did'nt want to be disturbed and Chope could'nt quite understand this. Thats why he soon left Southampton.

Luckily for Chope the governmewnt are still letting a ready supply of willing workers through our borders every day. just because you hear less about Calais etc does not mean its not still happening.

chip eater, fair pak says...
10:12am Sat 14 Feb 09

employee puts up wages, their costs go up, therefor prices go up, so extra wages count for nothing. Who wins? government get more income tax and ni revenue or/and family tax credits are reduced. Minimum wage is a con

mr.southampton, Southampton says...
10:28am Sat 14 Feb 09

Chris Chope is a disgrace, I'm glad that the people of Southampton saw through this compasionless self-serving, not to mention arrogant man and sent him packing.

I'm sure plenty of people remember what he did to one of the most beautiful local landscapes at Twyford Down too.

the real mr x, bitterne says...
1:15pm Sat 14 Feb 09

Christchurch's village idiot !
Yet another MP who doesn't live in the real world.

spyke, Winchester says...
3:01pm Sat 14 Feb 09

No wonder 1% of the population manage to hold onto 90% of the nations wealth with trough feeders like this in the House of Commons!

Iw61, bitterne park says...
3:50pm Sat 14 Feb 09

Chope is a typical Tory. Completely oblivious to the realities of life around him. The Tories havent changed at all from the mess that got voted out in 1997.
What a twit.

By the way, the minimum wage is too low as it is. Realistically it should be around £7.50 ph.

BillyTheKid, says...
4:28pm Sat 14 Feb 09

I would suggest that Mr Chope's comments were made simply to gain attention. All publicity, whether positive or negative, can be useful. Sound bytes.

Condor Man, Southampton says...
8:02pm Sat 14 Feb 09

The minimum wage has not benefitted anyone apart from migrant workers from Eastern Europe who have come over and taken jobs off local workers because they can afford to work for less.

Had the cost of living not shot up under Labour- as a result of taxation (fuel, energy and council tax virtually doubling in price) then people working in Tesco's etc could afford to work for less. Now, because of the rise in living costs, only Poles living 12 to a house can afford to take them - and even then they aren't because the pound is worth so little.

Whitehead is hardly one to critise Chope, he's a typical champagne socialist who (like Denham) never did a days work during his council days apart from the odd lecture at the old Institute. At least Chope was a barrister who paid his way.

10 Minute Man, Bitterne says...
10:57pm Sat 14 Feb 09

Yes its "shot up" in some areas, but "fallen like a rock" in others. For example, food and clothing prices have dropped in real terms in the last 15 years - even though they have risen in the last 3 years or so.

The idea that all these businesses are just *itching* to drop prices if it weren't for this pesky £3/hr extra they are paying is naive and foolish. The likes of Tesco could quite easily reduce the billions of profit they make each year if they wanted to. But they don't need to because the shoppers keep coming and they are making more money than ever. So has the minimum wage hurt them? No, clearly not.

Millbrook Dave, millbrook says...
3:11pm Sun 15 Feb 09

TYPICAL TORY WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LIVE ON A LOW WAGE.HE SHOULD BE PAID 3 QUID AN HOUR TO SEE HOW HE LIKES IT.HANG ON,HE ISN'T WORTH THAT MUCH.

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