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Hampshire fluoride protesters to tale campaign to court
7:52am Tuesday 24th March 2009 in
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- By Jon Reeve » Education Reporter
CAMPAIGNERS have launched a fighting fund to help take their bid to stop fluoride being added to Hampshire’s tap water to the courts.
Hampshire Against Fluoridation (HAF) is taking legal advice on challenging the decision to add fluoride to the water supplies of nearly 200,000 residents in Southampton, Eastleigh, Totton, Netley and Rownhams.
With no formal appeal process available against South Central Strategic Health Authority’s (SHA) backing for fluoridation, a judicial review remains the most likely route for campaigners.
But going through the courts to question the decision, made after a public consultation last year in which 72 per cent of respondents from the affected area said they were against the plans, could cost thousands of pounds.
HAF is now asking anyone opposed to fluoridation to donate whatever they can afford towards the cost of launching its legal challenge.
It is setting up a fund, but says all money will be returned if it is not used.
The group estimates it will initially need more than £1,000 to start its legal bid, but that amount will rise sharply to as much as £10,000 as the challenge progresses.
Organisers have already gathered more than 2,000 names on a petition they plan to deliver to Prime Minister Gordon Brown once they have reached 10,000 signatures.
“Getting signatures is actually proving pretty easy, because people are really angry about it,” said HAF member Bill Edmunds, from Cadnam.
“It’s a major thing we’re fighting, but I’m optimistic in a way, because everyone is so fired up about it. We’re certainly not going to give in.”
Several Hampshire MPs have also launched challenges to the plans to top up fluoride from 0.08 parts per million to one part per million, which could happen as soon as next year.
New Forest East MP Dr Julian Lewis has complained to the parliamentary and local government ombudsman about the “hopelessly biased” public consultation.
And Eastleigh MP Chris Huhne has called on the Environment Agency to investigate the potential impact of extra fluoride on the county’s rivers and waterways.
The SHA backed fluoridation, arguing that it is the best way to improve poor dental health in Southampton’s children, particularly those from more deprived backgrounds.
HAF is holding an open meeting between 12 noon and 6pm on Saturday, April 4, at Central Baptist Church, Devonshire Road, Southampton.
Comments(25)
shilo
says...
9:10am Tue 24 Mar 09
Mrs. De Pointe
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9:21am Tue 24 Mar 09
Why are these people getting so bolshy about such a thing ?
stuartjebbitt
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9:43am Tue 24 Mar 09
I now use fluoride free toothpaste as fluoride paste enflames my gums and causes them to bleed.
This is more about furthering the career paths of the dentists and NHS staff involved than anything else. Labour have latched onto this outdated idea and are forcing it on us from central goverment downwards.
BTW, Hong Kong has since REDUCED its fluoride to 0.5 ppm.
Good to know the UK is woefully out of step, as usual.
Saint Cope
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9:54am Tue 24 Mar 09
shilo wrote:Never did Shane McGowan any harm though did it?
They have flouride in the water in Ireland and I've never seen so many people in my life with bad teeth there.
HowDictorial
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10:37am Tue 24 Mar 09
Oracle1
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10:50am Tue 24 Mar 09
goard
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11:08am Tue 24 Mar 09
Goard
Big Boy
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11:25am Tue 24 Mar 09
n they are the same.
stuartjebbitt
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11:57am Tue 24 Mar 09
Big Boy wrote:YES thats excatly it - they are. different number of receptors.
'The fluoride used in toothpaste is not the same'....what the heck are you on about boy! Are the isotopes different...no...the n they are the same.
HowDictorial
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2:24pm Tue 24 Mar 09
issues are here but Fluoride has been in our toothpaste for years and it
doesn't appear to have any long term health issues. Why are these people
getting so bolshy about such a thing ?
Good Morning, There are several
reasons why people are getting bolshy about this;
Fluoride in toothpaste
is applied to your teeth whilst you are brushing,then you spit it out,,your
toothpaste also has a Warning written on it telling you to minimise
swollowing.
Secondly what they want to add to our water is not Natural
Fluoride it is something called HEXAFLUOROSILICIC ACID which is a TOXIC
WASTE POISON.
Thirdly,There has never been any clinical trails on the
EFFECTS this poison has to our bodies long term.
I,m sure if you google the
name of this substance you will be very surprised at what you find out.
I hope that this will enlighten you somewhat on this subject.
KNOW-ONE SHOULD BE TAMPERING WITH OUR WATER OTHER THAN TO KEEP IT AS PURE AS POSSIBLE!!!!
Iain
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3:47pm Tue 24 Mar 09
boybow
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4:44pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Redback
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5:49pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Oh my word. I've had the sudden realisation that half the posters on here probably still believe that too.
---
Dear World,
Please read "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre.
Love,
Redback
---
D.a.v.e
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6:21pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Iain wrote:Good point Iain,
People should mellow out a bit. I smoke and drink and occasionally have a kebab. I really don't think flouride poisoning is a major worry for me.
In an ideal world the SHA would like to see kids drinking water as the only healthy alterative.
The truth is those kids that do brush their teeth may only rinse with a little water.
Not a lot of good when they get to school and buy a can of coke and a mars bar from the vending machine in the corridor.
10 Minute Man
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8:34pm Tue 24 Mar 09
stuartjebbitt wrote:Different number of receptors?
Big Boy wrote:YES thats excatly it - they are. different number of receptors.
'The fluoride used in toothpaste is not the same'....what the heck are you on about boy! Are the isotopes different...no...the n they are the same.
WTF?
You're not the real stuartjebbitt are you?
Bassettbadger
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9:36pm Tue 24 Mar 09
10 Minute Man
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9:54pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Bassettbadger wrote:Its OK, they'll ask you for your money *after* all this is over. Just like starting a campaign against it *after* the discussion, consultation, and decision was made. Completely pointless.
how do we donate???
Rob444
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10:53pm Tue 24 Mar 09
Bassettbadger wrote:The address is here:
how do we donate???
http://hampshireagai
nstfluoridation.blog
spot.com/
I will be sending my cheque in the morning.
Can you imagine the French just sitting back and allowing this to go ahead?
We must not let the S.H.A. get away with this.
max8678
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11:02pm Tue 24 Mar 09
max8678
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11:08pm Tue 24 Mar 09
so how much dose it cost for some toothpaste and toothbrush. pennys!!!! thats how much. just there are too many lazy people that can not be bothered to clean there teeth!!! and as for the children, thats there parents fault!!!!!!
stephenpeckham
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8:46am Wed 25 Mar 09
Redback wrote:What you should read is Ben Goldacre's 'Bad Science' comment in the Guardian in February 2008 when he highlighted the bad science behind water fluoridation. He rightly pointed out that there isn't any good evidence to show that water fluoridation works.
Scaremongering tosh from the same people that would have you believe that MMR causes autism. Oh my word. I've had the sudden realisation that half the posters on here probably still believe that too. --- Dear World, Please read "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre. Love, Redback ---
Stephen
Redback
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9:39am Wed 25 Mar 09
Redback wrote: Scaremongering tosh from the same people that would have you believe that MMR causes autism. Oh my word. I've had the sudden realisation that half the posters on here probably still believe that too. --- Dear World, Please read Fair enough - but that's not the same as it being a "TOXIC WASTE POISON!!!!111ONE1!"
stuartjebbitt
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2:10pm Wed 25 Mar 09
stephenpeckham wrote: Redback wrote: Scaremongering tosh from the same people that would have you believe that MMR causes autism. Oh my word. I've had the sudden realisation that half the posters on here probably still believe that too. --- Dear World, Please read Fair enough - but that's not the same as it being a "TOXIC WASTE POISON!!!!111ONE1!"No one is saying that people will be dropping dead in the streets. Obviously not. But, there are legitimate studies, being ignored and swept under the carpet, indicating long term negative effects on health.
I'm sick of the nanny state and the disregard for personal freedom and choice.
When will people be left to be responsible for themselves?? (and their offspring)
grrrrr...Off to buy the Daily Mail now....:¬)
GhostInTheMachine
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6:08pm Tue 31 Mar 09
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geronimo says...
9:00am Tue 24 Mar 09
Answer... Brush your teeth, Save us from Fluoridation. WE DON'T WANT IT!!!