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Pinnacle group end interest in buying Southampton FC


PINNACLE have withdrawn from the race to buy Southampton.

Dell legend Matthew Le Tissier has been a visible front man for the Pinnacle bid and would have been installed as chairman had they managed to strike a deal for the club.

Pinnacle, the long term frontrunners to take control at St Mary’s, withdrew after several fruitless weeks of trying to complete their takeover.

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Pinnacle's decision leaves the way open for the mystery overseas consortium to push ahead with a deal, as revealed exclusively in the Daily Echo yesterday.

The only competition they will have is from the Swiss backers as the Daily Echo earlier revealed that the group fronted by businessman Marc Jackson has also pulled out.

The withdrawal comes on the back of a failed 21 day exclusivity period in which Pinnacle couldn’t complete a deal to buy the club, a wrangle with the Football League and a Daily Echo investigation last week that probed the background of ‘prospective new owner’ Michael Fialka.

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Speaking exclusively to the Daily Echo this morning, administrator Mark Fry said for the first time he was "not confident" in Pinnacle completing their deal.

Explaining the decision, Matthew Le Tissier said in a statement: "It is with great regret and frustration due to ongoing issues with the Football League that I and in turn those behind the Pinnacle consortium decided to withdraw our interest in purchasing Southampton Football Club.

"With the ongoing issues with the Football League persisting, our backers have simply refused to provide the requisite funds to complete the take-over.

"I would like to thank Tony Lynam for all his hard work and the others who have gone above and beyond the call of duty for Southampton Football Club.

"I hope beyond hope that Mark Fry can find a buyer for the club. We were unaware of the issues with the Football League when we entered into our agreement to purchase the club and then coming to light so late in the day has resulted in our backer's decision not to proceed under the terms on offer."


Comments(397)

Propercynic says...
1:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Get the Swiss in NOW.

saintpeter48 says...
1:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what F**k is going on......we've all been led up the garden path!!!!

stmarysmush says...
1:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So obvious. To all those who kept the faith, I told you they were just messing about last week. Why did they waste all that time I wonder ? Matt will do well to escape this without being tarred. I also blame FRY for not being stronger on these deadlines, if he was we might not be in this desperate position.

hasnain11 says...
1:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

OMG!!!!!! that officially says THIS IS IT!!!! Saints is FINISHED!!! I cant believe it! no one is buying saints its finished!!

GARY1976 says...
1:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

pinnacle and fry need shooting

Nothing to say says...
1:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days.

IT WILL TAKE WEEKS.

Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this.

Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.

JimmyLondon says...
1:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

What the hell is Fry doing, he is clearly out of his depth and probably a lowe supporter, this is absolutely shambolic. Pinnicle have wasted everybody's time feel like taking a trip to see Faliaka in north london

Tirau Dan (NZL) says...
1:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Totally gutted and exhausted..goodnight
.

mrmenontour says...
1:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

You should have listened to me 3 weeks ago. I told you it wouildnt happen. Oh well perhaps you will join in with this song.

BLUE SQUARE
YOU SAW ME CRYING ALONE
WITHOUT A DREAM IN MY HEART
WITHOUT A CLUB OF MY OWN

SomersetSaint says...
1:47pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Pinnacle are t*ssers (as I've been saying for some time). Why didn't Fry kick them out on 19th June once their 3week exclusivity deal ended?!!!

curly99 says...
1:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I can only laugh. What a joke this has turned out to be. Perhaps I will be able to see my family now that Saints no longer exists.

Nothing to say says...
1:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fry couldn't even manage sort out a takeover for Bournemouth.

Why on earth was he given the Saints job?

But I guess it's typical of SFC to attract people incompetant at what they do, be it chairman, directors, managers, players or even administrators.

alan.of.eastleigh says...
1:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

hasnain11 wrote:
OMG!!!!!! that officially says THIS IS IT!!!! Saints is FINISHED!!! I cant believe it! no one is buying saints its finished!!
Huh? How do you make that out from this brief article?

Huffybear says...
1:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

That's good advertising for Pinnacle isn't it! Oh great. This time next week we might be down a football club

WhatNext says...
1:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Wow, like we didnt see that coming. The lot of them were full of sh*t from the start...

GARY1976 says...
1:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

total shambles from day one, feel soory for tiss im sure he was being told total rubbish from day one

Jason D says...
1:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

OK. Hands up, you guys were right, they are muppets. I'm sure Leon Crouch really does have the right intentions, but this is further proof his incompetence is the main reason we are where we are. This is a disgrace and frankly, the fact the other bidders have been waiting in the background for two months not doing much suggests their interest is far from 100% committed.

Surely if they wanted it they'd have jumped in as soon as the exclusivity period ended.

OxSaint says...
1:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

It has to be the Swiss or that's it. They've got until Friday, if they can't get it done by then there's no club. Disaster.

Anonymous, says...
1:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mrmenontour wrote:
You should have listened to me 3 weeks ago. I told you it wouildnt happen. Oh well perhaps you will join in with this song.

BLUE SQUARE
YOU SAW ME CRYING ALONE
WITHOUT A DREAM IN MY HEART
WITHOUT A CLUB OF MY OWN
Lulz! Unwarranted self-importance rears its ugly head on teh internets once more

buffalosoldier says...
1:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

as i commented at the weekend: i offered anyone 10-1 that pinnacle would NOT!!! close a deal by 23.59 this evening. they are a shambles and have dragged this club to the brink of extinction.

as i also commented the time-frame would force any serious bidders to think again! nobody in their right mind is gonna sign up and invest in a business thats already gone t*ts up without a complete period of due dilligence.
Fry, MLT, leon all got into to bed with pinnacle and they will rue the day that they chose to align themselves with this group of chancers.

in reality the other potential bidders wont go ahead this week so the club will first go through being wound up

alan.of.eastleigh says...
1:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Nothing to say wrote:
It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
Southampton would be deserted!!

East Ender says...
1:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

At the very least Saints fans are owed a very big public explanation from first Messrs Le Tissier and Lynam as to why they so crucially wasted so much valuable time and secondly from Mr Fry as to why the were given exclusivity in the first place if there was any doubt that they couldn't seal the deal.

Paul the Parrot says...
1:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anyone know where Pinnacle offices are?

kingstonsaint says...
1:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Thanks matty your actions may have just finished this club.

season ticket holder says...
1:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintpeter48 wrote:
what F**k is going on......we've all been led up the garden path!!!!
I think Mark Fry & MLT have been led up the garden path as well.
Someone will now come in with a very low offer that will have no investment behind it. If we are lucky enough to be in League 1 at the start of the season we will do well not to get relegated.
COYR

Anonymous, says...
1:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples

Anonymous, says...
1:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples

Patrick80's says...
1:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09

What a Bunch of Knob Jockeys !

Major Sir Jerry Pending says...
1:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09

WHAT A BL00DY SHAMBLES!!!

Stossie says...
1:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09

WhatNext wrote:
Wow, like we didnt see that coming. The lot of them were full of sh*t from the start...
we need a full explanation from MLT and the pinnacle muppets as to why, if as reported Lon did pay the £500k I am gutted for him as he constantly does everything he can. If this Falkia guy turns out to be a hoaxer I pity him as he won't have anywhere to hide. I honestly didnt think it would come to this. gutted

saintrooty says...
1:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Nothing to say wrote:
It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
as agonising as it is to say...AGREED. This cant go on any longer. The staff at the club(not the players) need to move on so they can pay their bills, the players need to move on to continue their careers. They cant expect people to wait around any longer. Goodbye SFC and thanks for the memories. Im off to spend my season ticket money on a 42" lcd t.v.

Peter Strait says...
1:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Question is - who is too blame? - Pinnacle who never seemed to be working to a serious conclusion - or Fry who let them carry on at the expense of the other bidders.

No doubt Mark fry is a danger to the existence of Southampton Football Club, he is either totally incompetent, or as his actions suggest, he is asset stripping on behalf of the Bank.

eisman84 says...
1:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This may be out of pure optimism, despration, and hope, but could it be that two groups have ad meetings with Fry today and pulled out because the mystery bid is actually buying the club.....as a saints fan I always live in blind hope!!

I also feel that MLT has quite possibly had the wool pulled over his eyes in this. He would never have backed a group that would get Southampton into this mess knowingly. I hope his rep does not get tarnished by this fiasco.

Just hope the Swiss are still interested.

saintrooty says...
1:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

oh and echo, look up the meaning of exclusive....it was ssn that broke the news first.

eastleigh-ian says...
1:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

pathetic !!!

Bassett Boy says...
1:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Well Matt, thanks for F.A.
We all gave this bid a credibility factor because of your involvement. Pity you didn't check to see that they were indeed a ligit group & not the bunch of timewasters that they now have proven to be.
Hope YOU make a public & humble apology to the fans to retain what little credibility that you still have.
This protracted 'timewaste' has now left SFC with no time to complete a takeover with any 'mystery buyer' or the swiss consortium, whoever they are!
RIP SFC
Do a groundshare with Eastleigh, it's just down the road from me!!

Fides says...
1:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Nothing to say wrote:
It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days.

IT WILL TAKE WEEKS.

Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this.

Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
"Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again."

In particular all those so-called fans who were so determined to put us into adminisrttaion. Well done. And no it wasn't anyone else's fault. It was yours, you mindless, stupid, bigoted....

Not that I'm cross you understand. 50+ years of supporting a club just wasted by pathetic know-nothing so-called supporters. Actually, yes, I am very cross.

Now just hoping that someone will save the club. Just hoping.

AB12345 says...
1:56pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Lowe say it 25 years before anyone else, hockey is the future of this nation and our planet. Mark my words.

FaceonaBus says...
1:56pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This just gets worse and worse. I wonder if indeed Pinnacle actually a real option or just a wind up, to ensure we do not have enough time for any other group to take over. It will be interesting to see if there was a substance to Pinnacle and semi detached man!! I guess we may never know. All that is now apparent is that Saints may cease to exist very soon. I know that the likes of Lowe etc, should hold their heads in shame, but personally i feel that Bigbirds trainer and Mr Fry ( i use the term MR very loosely)should also be held accountable. The manner in which they have conducted themselves is at best amateurish. All they will care about is their Blood money, and for what. They should be paid on merit, therefore MR Fry you deserve nothing. I thought due dilligence was there to ensure that funds etc were actually in place. Mr Fry you are out of your league and I wouldnt give you a job as a labourer, as you'd would drag that out and blame others.
Charlatans, con men, Time wasters, blaggers........and then there is the False interested parties.

MLT are you going to talk to us now?? I doubt that too.

Bigbirds Trainer I hope that you do not refer, or think of yourselves as a professional outfit, shambolic. May be one of the last times I get to say it but...
COYR COYR COYR,

Oh and before anyone starts to point out recession etc etc as reason for not being able to find a buyer, it doesnt answer the question as to why bigbirds trainers did not seem to check the validty of these so-called interested parties before allowing us to have been taken down the garden path for five wasted weeks.

COYR COYR COYR

Jason D says...
1:56pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Is it just me or does it really p**s anyone else off that some people on here seem delighted they've been proved right on what they've been telling us for weeks.

You must be the same people who were delighted when we lost games last season and when we went into administration.

Glad it gives you satisfaction because I can't find anything to feel pleased about right now.

curly99 says...
1:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If Falkia is full of cr@p, hasnt his address where he lives with mummy and daddy been posted on here? If so, I wouldnt like to be in his shoes..

gkmeech says...
1:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The Echo's world-famous Adam Leitch reports 'PINNACLE have withdrawn from the race to buy Southampton.'
What race Adam? Plenty of false-starts but as of this moment no bloody race!!! Now two of the runners have pulled up having come under starters orders, both the ante-post favourite ridden by MLT, expected to win by a big nose, and the Jackson five (sorry four).


buffalosoldier says...
1:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

eisman84 wrote:
This may be out of pure optimism, despration, and hope, but could it be that two groups have ad meetings with Fry today and pulled out because the mystery bid is actually buying the club.....as a saints fan I always live in blind hope!! I also feel that MLT has quite possibly had the wool pulled over his eyes in this. He would never have backed a group that would get Southampton into this mess knowingly. I hope his rep does not get tarnished by this fiasco. Just hope the Swiss are still interested.
sorry to say serious bidders (which excludes Pinnacele) will not complete a deal without minimum 3 weeks due dilligence.

Fry will have to wind up the club now, and in reality he started with Mcgoldrick yesterday, Surman today and will continue with whoever has a value.

once the creditors have been satisfied that all realisable assets have been cashed than perhaps someone will come in to start again.
but that wont be in time for the new season. in short barring a miracle SFC will cease to exist v soon

jezza says...
1:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Was that RL who just galloped up to SMS on a white charger?!!

We seem to have progressed from duck-hunter to lame duck.

I'm just glad I'm old enough to have great memories of 1976.

forever a saint says...
1:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

i guess deep down all us fans knew this might happen as PINNACLE were dragging this out but we believed it wouldnt happen,well it has now & as we are all feeling gutted lets just hope we get a 12 hour saviour !

C O Y R

saintsfan25 says...
1:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
WHO the hell are you tosay this is just a game! Just a game! this is people lively hoods! People passion! Just a game! This was what I was bought up to! I watched when I was a kid, watched with my family, my friends! wore there colours (WITH PRIDE - AND STILL WILL) JUST A GAME! Your telling me you have no passion! I don't want people like you writig on here! Go get a life! Useless!!!

BrooksoSaints09 says...
2:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Here i am led on my couch on my laptop, tears in my eyes knowing that i have seen my beloved saints for the last time...

Mark Fry, you are useless and Begbies Traynors should have put someone who was up to the task in charge your clearly unable to cope.

the swiss company are rumoured to be Red Bull, my father heard that, dont ask me where im not sure, i hope it is, i hope to see my saints living next season, ill buy the club if i have to, i only get 70quid a week...im torn by this news....i really am..

eisman84 says...
2:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
Nothing to say wrote: It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
"Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again." In particular all those so-called fans who were so determined to put us into adminisrttaion. Well done. And no it wasn't anyone else's fault. It was yours, you mindless, stupid, bigoted.... Not that I'm cross you understand. 50+ years of supporting a club just wasted by pathetic know-nothing so-called supporters. Actually, yes, I am very cross. Now just hoping that someone will save the club. Just hoping.
I doubt the fans that stayed away planned to put us in administration for a start.

Furthermore, all that happened was the club lost out on a few hundred thousand of pounds. Not the millions that would have kept us out of administration. This would have happened anyway, it was never a question of if but when for the administration side of things.

We wold be entering it now, much closer to the season had people turned up rather than a couple of months ago would have been the only difference.

St Retford says...
2:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

eisman84 wrote:
This may be out of pure optimism, despration, and hope, but could it be that two groups have ad meetings with Fry today and pulled out because the mystery bid is actually buying the club.....as a saints fan I always live in blind hope!! I also feel that MLT has quite possibly had the wool pulled over his eyes in this. He would never have backed a group that would get Southampton into this mess knowingly. I hope his rep does not get tarnished by this fiasco. Just hope the Swiss are still interested.
Agreed on your first point. That's two bidders who have withdrawn in the space of about an hour. I would hope this means that something is 'afoot' and that Pinnacle are acting in the best interests of the club by standing aside for someone with more money.

As for Le Tiss, I'm sure he's done all he can. He is and will always be a legend.

Delboy1 says...
2:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I doubt we'll have any players left by Friday anyway. This mess has left no choice but to sell decent players, the ones who could have given us a chance.
Someone somewhere needs to hold their hands up for this inept performance.

badassjay says...
2:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what a waste of space that so called pinnacle group are fooking time wasters. as for mlt well he didnt do the bizz shocked stunned worn out with all of this . its the end of the world s/w shot-soon

Barry the Tash says...
2:01pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Who has lost the 500 grand, was it Le tis or Crouch? I reckon Fialka has come in given it the large and left Matty looking a tit with a big dent in his bank account. It's a shame because I thought with him at the helm, we would be quite a good proposition for a good manager and players.
Where now? The blue square is looking closer than ever.
I hope i'm wrong.
COME ON THE SWISS!

St.Stubb says...
2:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

What exactly will the Swiss get for their money now. No players, no experienced coaches, as they all leave today, it is too late.
We had some good times but that was along time ago.

SFC Scott says...
2:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
Nothing to say wrote:
It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days.

IT WILL TAKE WEEKS.

Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this.

Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
"Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again."

In particular all those so-called fans who were so determined to put us into adminisrttaion. Well done. And no it wasn't anyone else's fault. It was yours, you mindless, stupid, bigoted....

Not that I'm cross you understand. 50+ years of supporting a club just wasted by pathetic know-nothing so-called supporters. Actually, yes, I am very cross.

Now just hoping that someone will save the club. Just hoping.
I am not a stay awy fan. I go when I can afford to. But to blame the fans that did stay away is pathetic. The name of the man to blame is Mr Rupert Lowe. Nobody else can come close to taking the blame like this one. And I am very angry as well.

Fides says...
2:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

buffalosoldier wrote:
eisman84 wrote:
This may be out of pure optimism, despration, and hope, but could it be that two groups have ad meetings with Fry today and pulled out because the mystery bid is actually buying the club.....as a saints fan I always live in blind hope!! I also feel that MLT has quite possibly had the wool pulled over his eyes in this. He would never have backed a group that would get Southampton into this mess knowingly. I hope his rep does not get tarnished by this fiasco. Just hope the Swiss are still interested.
sorry to say serious bidders (which excludes Pinnacele) will not complete a deal without minimum 3 weeks due dilligence.

Fry will have to wind up the club now, and in reality he started with Mcgoldrick yesterday, Surman today and will continue with whoever has a value.

once the creditors have been satisfied that all realisable assets have been cashed than perhaps someone will come in to start again.
but that wont be in time for the new season. in short barring a miracle SFC will cease to exist v soon
Glad you are so pleased. Now unless you have anything helpful to say........

Jesus_02 says...
2:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Unbelievable

No Statement from the Fry or Pinnacle.

Just the echo proudly stating that they have probed Failka.

Great Job guys who don’t you probe the Swiss now.., lets see what damage you can cause to report on .

TheFatLadySings says...
2:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The clown squad strike again! Wilde, Crouch, McEnemy and now even Le Tiss has been tainted by their total failure.

I fully expect Rupert Lowe to step in and rescue the club once again!

FaceonaBus says...
2:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Bigbirds trainers office is behind NV in southampton high st, Donrt know where pinnacle are. But you will probably find that wherever their PO box office is, it will disappear as quick as their bid.
COYR COYR COYR

John Wade says...
2:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
What a shambles. And as for that T-Wat from Pompey, Mrmenetcetc, you are a disgrace. Rivalry is one thing but gloating over what could be the end of our football club is just sick. I hope you and your club are never in the same position. Grow up you child.
not so clever now the boot is on the other foot, why shouldnt we gloat you hate us and we hate you, or at least we did but we wont have to soon!

Rossbkr C.O.Y.R says...
2:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09



Totally gutted! Let's hope the swiss or 'mystery' consortiums step up quick! Getting to the stage where I don't care who buys us, so longs as we stay afloat! But as much as I hate to say it... I think the bubble has burst!

TGRWorzel says...
2:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Provided one of the other bids succeeds, I think Saints will have had a lucky escape.

Was becoming increasingly concerned about Pinnacle/Fialka the more I learned about them.

Good investigative journalism from Echo last week, revealing Pinnacle front-man is a letting agent and source of funds not obvious. Got to ask questions under those circumstances.

And to be honest, the 10pt row, rather the row over the right to appeal the points deduction, was increasingly looking like a cop-out. An excuse not to proceed if ever I saw one.

Le Tissier's Nose says...
2:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This completes what has been a shambles ever since Gordon Strachan left.

I can't quite believe that one club can have so much bad luck, mis-management and utter lack of professionalism.

It is an utter joke and all parties (Fry, Pinnacle, Lowe, Wilde) have to be blamed. Even MLT unfortunately has built up expectations without any real knowledge of whether they were deliverable or not.

The Football Club dyng is yet another nail in this City's rapidly decreasing end!!

I can't put into words how disgusted I am with everything and how people are allowed to get away with it!!

w1lkins822 says...
2:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09

THATS IT GAME OVER NO STAFF TO TRAIN THE PLAYERS WE ARE SELLING PLAYERS LIKE HOT CAKES WE WONT BE READY EVEN IF WE DO GET TAKEN OVER NOW
RIP SAINTS YOU WERE A MASSIVE PART OF MY LIFE AND NOW YOUR GONE JUST BECAUSE OF -10 POINTS

sisaydo says...
2:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

R.I.P
Southampton F.C 1885 TO 2009, 8(

WACCOE says...
2:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

You can have Ken Bates on a free transfer if that helps :)

midlandsaint says...
2:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I don't think the pinnacle group is to blame.

I think if it were just 10 points then PG would go through with the deal but i suspect the FL has not ruled out a further deduction and won't budge on that.

Essentially PG would be buying a shell and would need substantial investment to get a manager, coaches, players etc etc.

While doing that on -10 points is an option, doing that on -25 points simply isn't an option.

I can't see ANY potential investor willing to take on such a handicap.

It seems simply that the FL want us gone. The club and the fans mean nothing to the FL.

StEmmosfire says...
2:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

TheFatLadySings wrote:
The clown squad strike again! Wilde, Crouch, McEnemy and now even Le Tiss has been tainted by their total failure. I fully expect Rupert Lowe to step in and rescue the club once again!
Go back to the news skate

saintpeter48 says...
2:08pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what a complete and utter con, we've all been led up the garden path........Fry needs to be thrown out, sacked, kicked into touch or whatever, he is well out of his depth and obviously doesn't know whats happening. I just pray that somebody comes in to buy us in the next few days, fingers crossed my club will still be here this time next week.

southampton_till_i_die09 says...
2:08pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Never gonna read these breaking news again... just HOPE they have been paid off from a more financial consortium

hampshirehawk says...
2:09pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Bassett Boy wrote:
Well Matt, thanks for F.A.
We all gave this bid a credibility factor because of your involvement. Pity you didn't check to see that they were indeed a ligit group & not the bunch of timewasters that they now have proven to be.
Hope YOU make a public & humble apology to the fans to retain what little credibility that you still have.
This protracted 'timewaste' has now left SFC with no time to complete a takeover with any 'mystery buyer' or the swiss consortium, whoever they are!
RIP SFC
Do a groundshare with Eastleigh, it's just down the road from me!!
Totally out of his depth in the real world after a cushy life as a footballer and sky pundit. He's been used by pinnacle as a fans favourite, still I expect he was well paid by them.

What amazed me was the number of people on this site who believed his every word. Talk about heart over head or is it just that the vast majority of saints fans on this site are deluded optimistic numpties.

Maybe they might remember that no deal is done until it is signed and sealed.

What happens now? A ghost club from tomorrow. So sad.

TheMickChannonWave says...
2:09pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Gutted

Gutted

Gutted

monkeytennis says...
2:09pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan25 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
WHO the hell are you tosay this is just a game! Just a game! this is people lively hoods! People passion! Just a game! This was what I was bought up to! I watched when I was a kid, watched with my family, my friends! wore there colours (WITH PRIDE - AND STILL WILL) JUST A GAME! Your telling me you have no passion! I don't want people like you writig on here! Go get a life! Useless!!!
Agreed. Anonymous you are a total t##t. Get back to world of warcraft and your 'online friends'. Football clubs are a cornerstone of the community and mean alot to people, the death of SFC is inconceivable.

FaceonaBus says...
2:09pm Tue 30 Jun 09

COME ON THEN PINNACLE, SHOW US YOUR CARDS, I CALL YOU. WHO WAS THE MYSTERY BACKER THEN, IF INDEED YOU ACTUALLY HAD ONE.
You helped kill our club

COYR COYR COYR

Burton Saint says...
2:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The only certainty with this fiasco is that Begbies Traynor will get paid and it won't be cheap.

MLT has been turned over by a couple of chancers in Lynam and Fialka. Crouch has also been shown again to be naive when he steps outside of metal bashing.

The fire sale has begun with McGoldrick gone and Surman about to go. Those fees should pay Begbies Traynor at least and Kelvin Davis is about to sign for West Ham. Nice sign on fee for him and nothing back to SLH/SFC. Wright-Phillips will be the next signing for Crystal Palace again nothing will come back down to SLH/SFC.

Thank you very much Lynam - you will have to leg it back over the water very quickly. I suspect the Chandlers Ford HQ of your property empire is already vacated.

Bitter? Bloody right I am!


saintjak says...
2:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09

biggest load of horse sh1t i have ever heard.

Never thought i would say this but MLT hold your head in shame

It looks as though they were never serious. and between them and Fry what a group of Amateurs

Little P says...
2:11pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Although I think we all saw it coming it doesn't feel very nice. I have continued to support this club through thick and thin and will continue to do so. For all you fans over 40, keep the faith by remembering the 1970s the cup final and promotion to the First Division. Remember what it felt like!!! Hopefully we will all get that feeling again.

OH WHEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHING IN.......

Anonymous, says...
2:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan25 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
WHO the hell are you tosay this is just a game! Just a game! this is people lively hoods! People passion! Just a game! This was what I was bought up to! I watched when I was a kid, watched with my family, my friends! wore there colours (WITH PRIDE - AND STILL WILL) JUST A GAME! Your telling me you have no passion! I don't want people like you writig on here! Go get a life! Useless!!!
I don't give a toss whether you want me here or not, you don't own the site, fool! So you're passionate about it? So what? It's still just a game! Look how upset you're getting because of a game. And you're telling someone else to get a life? Lulz!

adam1981 says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

can't believe it,heartbroken,this is virtually the end! matt le tiss i'm afraid you have gone down in my and alot of saints fans estimations,never thought it would come to this.can i just take this opportunity to thank pinnacle on really screwing this football club up,you have virtually lost us any hope of going forward,you wanna be hung.thousands of people with broken hearts tongiht as i do not believe that any other group have the time to pull us out of this mess.

montecristosaint says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
Nothing to say wrote: It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
"Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again." In particular all those so-called fans who were so determined to put us into adminisrttaion. Well done. And no it wasn't anyone else's fault. It was yours, you mindless, stupid, bigoted.... Not that I'm cross you understand. 50+ years of supporting a club just wasted by pathetic know-nothing so-called supporters. Actually, yes, I am very cross. Now just hoping that someone will save the club. Just hoping.
This is all so very predictable.
The club will cease t oexist and as such its only value will be in the land as the stadiu, will probably have to be knocked down.
Expect all the assets to be sold off
if I had the money Id buy the stadium when it comes up for auction.
Sad day. But I never thought it would have any other ending,for some reason that we do not knoe there are fincial impediments that make the purchase of the club a bad deal and I have no idea what these might be. Tey could have something to do with Lowe's original reverse takeover I just dont know.

SFC Scott says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

John Wade wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
What a shambles. And as for that T-Wat from Pompey, Mrmenetcetc, you are a disgrace. Rivalry is one thing but gloating over what could be the end of our football club is just sick. I hope you and your club are never in the same position. Grow up you child.
not so clever now the boot is on the other foot, why shouldnt we gloat you hate us and we hate you, or at least we did but we wont have to soon!
Anybody in their right mind would look at SFC at realise that this could happen to their club very easily within a short space of time.

Major Sir Jerry Pending says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The football league are bunch of total t0ssers!!!

Send a note to them at fl@football-league.c
o.uk to tell them what you think of them!

Anonymous, says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

monkeytennis wrote:
saintsfan25 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
WHO the hell are you tosay this is just a game! Just a game! this is people lively hoods! People passion! Just a game! This was what I was bought up to! I watched when I was a kid, watched with my family, my friends! wore there colours (WITH PRIDE - AND STILL WILL) JUST A GAME! Your telling me you have no passion! I don't want people like you writig on here! Go get a life! Useless!!!
Agreed. Anonymous you are a total t##t. Get back to world of warcraft and your 'online friends'. Football clubs are a cornerstone of the community and mean alot to people, the death of SFC is inconceivable.
Lol yeh, everyone who isn't you on teh interwebs is a WoW-playing teenager. Football clubs aren't the cornerstone of anything, let alone communities. SFC is dying, get used to it rofl

southampton_till_i_die09 says...
2:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Might take a trip to pinnacle. Dunno what for though...

thenoblesteed says...
2:14pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Ridiculous, what a waste of time they were. Nobody even knows who these mystery backers are, for all we know the echo might of just said that to sweeten us up 4 a big blow.
I am absoloutly gutted, i have the money for the season ticket, and now they are just a waste of trees.
If Mark Fry had any sense, this is the time to make a statement or a conference and tell us what will happen to our beloved club now. If there is a mystery bidder, please make st marys stadium come out of the shadows and see the light!

COYR COYR COYR

SW11_Saint says...
2:14pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Absolutely diabolical. Every single thing this club does is tainted by amateurism and idiocy - from statues of club legends to administration and 'buy-outs'. What we have done to surrounded by such fcuk-wits is beyond me.

Tony Lynam, Fiasco (sic) and Pinnacle should hang their heads in shame - they have wasted 5 precious weeks and likely consigned this club to death. That will not be forgotten. All of this b0ll0cks about the 10 points being the issue is a smokescreen - they don't have a pot to p1ss in and they know it (hence Crouch having to pay the £500k deposit). Le Tiss and Crouch should have had a much closer look at what they were getting in to.

Fry has proved himself to be totally, utterly and hopelessly out of his depth with an administration of this magnitute. Again, we have taken the cheap option and have paid the price - he needs to have a long hard look at himself.

The Swiss are our ONLY hope now. If that doesn't come off it's the end of our beloved club and those listed above, along with Lowe & Co. are responsible.

Have never been more furious...

ROMAN37 says...
2:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Why are so many bloggers blaming Pinnacle ? They have put in huge time & effort to make this work (not excluding money). Why do so many of you assume it is their fault ?
Your criticisms might be better directed towards The Football League

Saintan says...
2:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Begbies Traynor
Mark Fry / Kirstie Provan 020 7398 3800

number given on saints website

lets all give them a call and ask why theyre running our club into the ground!?

Anonymous, says...
2:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!

Anonymous, says...
2:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
Begbies Traynor
Mark Fry / Kirstie Provan 020 7398 3800

number given on saints website

lets all give them a call and ask why theyre running our club into the ground!?
They did it for the lulz

Patrick80's says...
2:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Jesus_02 wrote:
Unbelievable No Statement from the Fry or Pinnacle. Just the echo proudly stating that they have probed Failka. Great Job guys who don’t you probe the Swiss now.., lets see what damage you can cause to report on .
I know exactly were i like to stick there probe. A Joke. We need an investigation into and proof that Mr Fry did due diligence on these muppets.

OSPREYSAINT says...
2:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

For my part I thank Pinnacle for trying, but taking the Football League on was a non starter, you just cannot ignor or break the rules whether they are right or wrong.

Who are the Swiss group? Can they do it? Here we go again.

Jason D says...
2:18pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
Begbies Traynor
Mark Fry / Kirstie Provan 020 7398 3800

number given on saints website

lets all give them a call and ask why theyre running our club into the ground!?
Yeah, great idea. Let's jam the lines of the firm trying to sell our club with three days to go before extinction. Brilliant.

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...
2:18pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Nothing to say wrote:
It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
Where do you suggest Askham, Lowe and Wilde do their shopping then?

paulmsh says...
2:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Can anyone at Pinnacle , MLT or Fry please tell me what the Fottball League have done to make the deal impossible?

Dimond says...
2:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Just been released on SSN:

Le Tissier said in a statement released to Sky Sports News: "It is with great regret and frustration, due to ongoing issues with the Football League, that I and in turn those behind the Pinnacle consortium have decided to withdraw our interest in purchasing Southampton football club.

"With the ongoing issues with the Football League persisting, our backers have simply refused to provide the requisite funds to complete the takeover.

"I hope beyond hope that (administrator) Mark Fry can find a buyer for the club. We were unaware of the issues with the Football League when we entered into our agreement to purchase the club, and them coming to light so late in the day has resulted in our backers' decision not to proceed with the terms on offer."

colmeister says...
2:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what else is left to say except....

Tony's number plate was on the video clip of his training ground visit. I guess he might want to change that now?

just a thought....

RIP saints

BP says...
2:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.

Saints No 1 Fan says...
2:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This is an absolute nightmare. You could fill a whole decades worth of eastenders episodes with what has gone on in the past month! This club is an utter laughing stock. I think every football fan in the country knows this.

I honestly cannot believe that a legend like Matt would do something like this. Its because pinnacle has taken so long that the club is close to non existence. This is an absolute farse.

Pinnacle, Mark Fry, Rupert Lowe and Micheal Wilde should be ashamed of themseleves. It truly will be a sad loss for the city of Southampton.

RIP SFC 1887-2009

townhill saint69 says...
2:21pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what a load of b@ll@ks some one please bye this amazing club

Bitterne Park Tim says...
2:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Wow.. I maybe ignorant, but I really did not see that coming...

I just hope that the reason they pulled out was because one of the other interested parties put a better offer on the table that they could not match....

If that is not the case Pinnacle have got a lot to answer for! Allso what was all that rubbish from Jackon about the mega rich guy he had lined up.....

Do these people have any idea how they are affecting the club and the fans?

OSPREYSAINT says...
2:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Was it Shankly who said when asked is football a matter of life and death replied it is more important thah that?

buffalosoldier says...
2:23pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
buffalosoldier wrote:
eisman84 wrote: This may be out of pure optimism, despration, and hope, but could it be that two groups have ad meetings with Fry today and pulled out because the mystery bid is actually buying the club.....as a saints fan I always live in blind hope!! I also feel that MLT has quite possibly had the wool pulled over his eyes in this. He would never have backed a group that would get Southampton into this mess knowingly. I hope his rep does not get tarnished by this fiasco. Just hope the Swiss are still interested.
sorry to say serious bidders (which excludes Pinnacele) will not complete a deal without minimum 3 weeks due dilligence. Fry will have to wind up the club now, and in reality he started with Mcgoldrick yesterday, Surman today and will continue with whoever has a value. once the creditors have been satisfied that all realisable assets have been cashed than perhaps someone will come in to start again. but that wont be in time for the new season. in short barring a miracle SFC will cease to exist v soon
Glad you are so pleased. Now unless you have anything helpful to say........
not pleased at all, in fact very saddened.
fry chose to back pinnacle because from day one they gave him everything he asked for i.e. proposing to pay all the fee in one lump.
although thye never divulged where it was coming from! ironically the jackson bid was the only one to actually "show the money" TWICE! however Fry works for the creditors not SFC and the pinnacle proposal would make him look good to them (big bonus) so thats what he backed and made a huge mistake on.

you have to say it was naive of him to accept pinnacle as a front runner, because as in business NO One gives you what you ask for first time!!! so he should have suswsed pinnacle out.

dont shoot the messenger, i have stuck my neck out to keep saints fans informed of what was actually happening, ok no one wanted to hear it but is was and is reality, and thats all you can deal with.
oh and the reason pinnacle, MLT etc were on telly/radio etc as late as last night saying it would be completed today EVEN if they had to accept the -10 points rule was they again hoped to force the league to cave in at the 11th hour and grant them right to appeal.
so they were prepared to take your club to the real prospect of extinction to get a cheap deal that they always intended to SELL ON. (they were speculators)

now ask Matt who they were going to sell to???

Captain Kirk says...
2:23pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I just wanna swear... **!**%%$!!!
Still don't feel any better :(

Willy1 says...
2:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So, what happens to saints? Do they disolve or do they get relegated to the conference to start again?

Saintan says...
2:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Jason D wrote:
Saintan wrote:
Begbies Traynor
Mark Fry / Kirstie Provan 020 7398 3800

number given on saints website

lets all give them a call and ask why theyre running our club into the ground!?
Yeah, great idea. Let's jam the lines of the firm trying to sell our club with three days to go before extinction. Brilliant.
'cos there's gonna be loads of new bidders now the old bidders dont want to but it!

you're a clever girl aren't you!



Anonymous, says...
2:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game

MrMarc says...
2:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Come friends let us sit sit on the floor and tell sad stories. Does anyone still own Southampton FC the Pain and The Glory on VHS? I swapped mine back in the summer of 96 for poster of Pamela Anderson in a white cozie on a beach ah happy happy days

True Saints Fan says...
2:25pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Let's look on the bright side.. Now the council can demolish St. Mary's and build another 3000 flats.... As I think you'll all agree there is a definite lack of flats being built in Southampton atthe moment

miltonarchers says...
2:26pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Shambles!!! As far as I'm concerned the tipping point for SFC was when the Board, influenced mainly by the no brains in the Northam failed to back Lowe and reinstate Hoddle. Think about it, had Hoddle returned, no Wigley, no Sturrock, no Redknapp, just managerial stability. Thanks boys, you are probably the same mob who bravely boycotted matches to “save” SFC. Hey guys, lets organize a march through Southampton, we can start at the Bargate, finish up at St Mary’s. Few mindless chants, that’ll sort it all out. Who needs the Swiss when we can march?
SFC RIP

FaceonaBus says...
2:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.

True Saints Fan says...
2:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that. You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore. Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
Totally agree with you Annonymous.. Stop weeping like a little girl.. maybe you should try something different on a Saturday afternoon rather than watch a bunch of over rated egos take all your money every week..

iamlouis23 says...
2:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I will always love Le Tiss, no matter how he has been portrayed by the Pinnacle Group. I honestly believe he didn't know what he was getting himself in for, and had every intention to do his best for Saints, so I just feel incredibly sorry he has been caught up in this.

My blame falls with Fialka, Fry, and the rest of Pinnacle. Fry for his incompotence, and Fialka and Pinnacle for ditching us with three days to go.
I'm also angry at the other consortiums for not making a bid, and I ultimately believe that it is too late.

I'm so livid! Our club (we the fans!) have been messed around for years on end. It is not fair that money we work hard for has gone towards this!

I just hope and pray for a miracle!!

If it was ever a time to believe in God, I'm bloody taking my chance now!!

I hope this isn't the last time, but COME ON YOU REDS!!!!

adam1981 says...
2:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?

saintrooty says...
2:31pm Tue 30 Jun 09

well I have just sent 2 txts to TL, the first one was incomplete as my stupid fat fingers hit send to early but that got a response, the 2nd full one however did not, All i did was very diplomaticly ask for clarity and transparency and an explination from him and Fialka what on earth they were playing at. but no, do not call up the administrators, as much as they have made a MASSIVE error of judgement, they are in charge of finding a buyer for us so lets see if they can, but i do feel the winding up process has started.

dungeon1970 says...
2:31pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
Nothing to say wrote: It's back to square one. There is no way another consortium can just turn up with a cheque book and sort out a takeover in a few days. IT WILL TAKE WEEKS. Put us all out of our misery, shut the club. I'm sick of all this. Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again.
"Those who have let down the club, should never show their faces in Southampton again." In particular all those so-called fans who were so determined to put us into adminisrttaion. Well done. And no it wasn't anyone else's fault. It was yours, you mindless, stupid, bigoted.... Not that I'm cross you understand. 50+ years of supporting a club just wasted by pathetic know-nothing so-called supporters. Actually, yes, I am very cross. Now just hoping that someone will save the club. Just hoping.
Totally agree, well said.

stoopid says...
2:31pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Is this really it – fading memories of Peter Osgood scoring at Bradford in the ’76 FA cup; Malcolm Alison throwing his lucky fedora into the air at Stamford Bridge in the semi with everyone singing “Where did you get that hat?”. Bobby Stokes – no need to say more.
Micky Channon’s windmilling arm; Ivan charging down the wing then smacking the ball into the roof of the net from 30 yeards. Peach, Watson, Keegan, Paine, Williams, the Wallace’s, Shilton, Mills, Ball, Moran, Case, Nicholl, Davis, Chivers, Steele, Shearer, Le Tissier… the list could go on and on.
Trainers and some player contracts up at the end of the day; have the wages been paid following McGoldricks transfer (maybe it’s just going to pay debts and admin bills) – no wages then the players are free agents after two weeks – that’s Thursday.
All that will be left is a stadium that has no history with the hero’s above; the Dell is gone and so has anything worth saving.
The Southampton FC brand is now almost worthless and the creditors along with the F.L. would rather see us go to the wall as a warning to others than allow the club to go for its market value which is probably around one pound sterling.

TheFatLadySings says...
2:31pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If the club could hang on to the academy and St Marys stadium would the Blue Square premier league be ok? Realistically Saints would walk that league...

SFC Scott says...
2:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

miltonarchers wrote:
Shambles!!! As far as I'm concerned the tipping point for SFC was when the Board, influenced mainly by the no brains in the Northam failed to back Lowe and reinstate Hoddle. Think about it, had Hoddle returned, no Wigley, no Sturrock, no Redknapp, just managerial stability. Thanks boys, you are probably the same mob who bravely boycotted matches to “save” SFC. Hey guys, lets organize a march through Southampton, we can start at the Bargate, finish up at St Mary’s. Few mindless chants, that’ll sort it all out. Who needs the Swiss when we can march?
SFC RIP
I do not sit in the Northam end. I go, or went, to games when money allowed. I didn't march through Southampton from the Bargate to St Marys. I blame one man and his name is Rupert Lowe. How can people justify blaming fans who might put max of £1000 a year into the club when this man could have pumped millions of his own money into the club but chose not to. His club, his money should have seen us through the tough times, but he chose not to.

dannyfloyd says...
2:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

fl@football-league.c
o.uk

email them and tell them what you think...

Anonymous, says...
2:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game

truelysaints says...
2:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Last time Ill believe anything that comes out of ML mouth. Hope he never becomes chairman of the club saint or no saint

Anonymous, says...
2:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way

THEKILLER says...
2:36pm Tue 30 Jun 09

9 PLAYERS TO LEAVE TOMORROW
TURN THE LIGHTS OUT!!!

Anonymous, says...
2:37pm Tue 30 Jun 09

truelysaints wrote:
Last time Ill believe anything that comes out of ML mouth. Hope he never becomes chairman of the club saint or no saint
How's the Shore Inn these days?

BP says...
2:38pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that. You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore. Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
Not my fault you are a tw*t either.
Please go away, we are hurting and dont need a to55er like you on here.
Go onto the news section and post comments on ice rinks.

kski says...
2:38pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The report has been confirmed by Sky Sports - Quoting that PG feared a further points deduction - Although I believe this was a get out clause for an under funded bid. Given we have no money in the account to pay wages (Player sales will mitigate the overdraft), we are now in breach of contract and players are free agents. Technically do we have a football club left?
There are no bids on the table, no firm expressions of interest. No chances of wages being paid this week.
Any player assets must be written down, and our goodwill element is negligable.
Remember noone is getting paid.

Don't blame Fry - if nobody wants to invest. He is trying to sell a high risk, loss makig business in the midst of the most conservative, risk averse lending Condistions for years.

What next ?

adam1981 says...
2:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

WACCOE wrote:
townhill saint69 wrote: what a load of b@ll@ks some one please bye this amazing club
I'll give you a quid for every trophy you ever won.
not everything is about trophies you pleb,this football club has been around for over 100 years and has been supported by thousands and thousands of people whose life revolves around football and heres you coming out with a stupid comment like that,you ought to be embarressed and ashamed,u cannot be a football fan!

farehamsaint says...
2:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I have to agree and disagree with a lot of comments. I have sat or stood in the Northam end for every game since we moved to St Marys as well as holding a season ticket at the Dell. I agree that the fans who stopped Lowe bringing Hoddle back should grow up and look at things with a little perspective. Hoddle went to Spurs as they are his club. If Le Tiss was a manager he would have left to join us and we would have loved it. It is no different. I also agree that staying away last year was pathetic. If you could afford to go, you should. Plastic Fans should take part of the blame. Lowe should take the Lions Share and now Lynam should join that list. Lets hope that someone buys this once great club and that a certain element of our fans get behing them with the rest of us. This ****, sulking and childish behaviour from all involved has got us where we are today!!

Saint says...
2:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09

More hope than anything else.

Both bids withdraw with in a short time of each other.

Matt and co has been duped. Though last night he said his group were deadly serious with their bid.

So may just may be the way has been cleared for someone who is better placed to takeover.

Anonymous, says...
2:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09

BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that. You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore. Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
Not my fault you are a tw*t either.
Please go away, we are hurting and dont need a to55er like you on here.
Go onto the news section and post comments on ice rinks.
Once again: I don't care whether you think you need me here or not. I'm here, and there ain't anything you can do about it silly boy. Hurting over a football club? Get some perspective, dude. There are starving children in Africa that don't even have football clubs

SW11_Saint says...
2:42pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Good lord... Monty Python couldn't do better!! I think you need a lie down - the heat getting to you?!?

FaceonaBus says...
2:42pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game
I am glad I made you laugh. Because you too make me laugh, being such a sad joke. Do not feel that the worlds come to an end, just Saints, you know the big club that hepls brings thousands and thousands of pounds into our city and local shops etc every year. The likes of you will soon moan when prices and council tax go up. So whilst sitting in your shed polishing your military helmets, have a look at the bigger picture for our city, you muppet. If only life was as shiney and easy to work out as it is in your blissfully unaware head.
LOL you have made me laugh, but then I always had a soft spot for the simple

adam1981 says...
2:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?

Solent Saint says...
2:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
Not amazing atall. The usual 'braindead' nurds talking amongst themselves, if you studied the posts about 25-30% are repeaters. Usual anti Lowe brigade, hanging in for a little longer cheap gloating. How many decent, true supporters would wish to see Rupert Lowe's steady hand at the helm. Watch the usual gobshytes pick up on this post.

DJI says...
2:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I would ask what the Club Directors have been doing whilst all this was happening. At the end of the day, the Club was still running and should have been taking measures to safeguard itself regardless of any buyout outcomes.
SSN is suggesting that Pinnacle had fears more sanctions were on the way due to no wages and further debt. Why did the Directors not attempt to raise funds earlier to keep the Club afloat. It was not Pinnacle's responsibility to pay the wages.
Now the fire sale starts but is likely to be too late!
I am still confused by MLT's statement over the weekend which brought such hope but I guess we will never hear the real truth.
Fry is acting like an asset stripper now and I dont think did a god job of this whole affair.
Recession has nothing to do with it when others clubs in all Leagues have found and closed on new owners.
A complete shambles!
I am absolutely gutted :-(

FarehamStripey says...
2:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Guys this is my first post on this as its pure 100% farce. If this is the end of the Saints as we know it, there is NO WAY we would be able to start in the Conference. What makes anyone think we can? Dont you think one of the other clubs that makes way will have something to say about that? What about Aldershit and AFC Wombles who all had to start from scratch - We would have to do the same - So if we do go under by the end of the week it will be the Wessex League for us and the Conference will seem as far away as the Premier League does now! COYR

gkmeech says...
2:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Matt hasn't been duped as many suggest. Look at his statement on Sky Sports News, where you will come to the conclusion that the FL is dicking everyone around. Why wont they come clean on what issues they are refusing to clarify. If they are responsible for the bulk of football in this country they have a duty to keep fans informed.

Anonymous, says...
2:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game
I am glad I made you laugh. Because you too make me laugh, being such a sad joke. Do not feel that the worlds come to an end, just Saints, you know the big club that hepls brings thousands and thousands of pounds into our city and local shops etc every year. The likes of you will soon moan when prices and council tax go up. So whilst sitting in your shed polishing your military helmets, have a look at the bigger picture for our city, you muppet. If only life was as shiney and easy to work out as it is in your blissfully unaware head.
LOL you have made me laugh, but then I always had a soft spot for the simple
WIN! No point pretending to be amused, you're obviously very butthurt that someone has dared to dis your favourite pastime - watching someone else play a game! Look at all the name-calling and insult-attempting that goes on, whenever anybody doesn't toe your line! Jokers the lot of you!

Football doesn't bring that much money into the city, some, granted, but it ain't the thriving industry you imagine it to be. If it was, the club wouldn't be in such a mess, for one thing, now, would it?

saintrooty says...
2:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

well blow me down, got a reply from the txt to TL. This is no wind up so here it is....

Glynn(thats me)

Thankyou for your message. If anyone wishes to hurl abuse at me or my colleagues, they have missed the point entirely.
A full detailed statement will follow but in shortit's mereley about "risk and interpertation" of the agreement being offered. I am sure a compromise will be reached. Regards TL

So there you go from the horses mouth before anyone has got it, Its a Glynn Root exclusive.

Still im not happy but am considering a move into journalism

True Saints Fan says...
2:47pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.

Anonymous, says...
2:47pm Tue 30 Jun 09

adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon

saint_luke says...
2:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

adam1981 says...
2:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous,, we are legion


what is your passion in life?

Anonymous, says...
2:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Solent Saint wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Amazing how quickly the post-count on any Saints story rises. It's only a game, peoples
Not amazing atall. The usual 'braindead' nurds talking amongst themselves, if you studied the posts about 25-30% are repeaters. Usual anti Lowe brigade, hanging in for a little longer cheap gloating. How many decent, true supporters would wish to see Rupert Lowe's steady hand at the helm. Watch the usual gobshytes pick up on this post.
LOL yeh they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks. Red-and-white (which makes...PINK!) bricks!


ourkid1984 says...
2:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Why are people blamming Le Tiss?

He only supported the Pinnacle bid, he wasn't involved in anything apart from believing that they had the money and resources to complete the bid.

What don't people understand?

Also why are people banging on about the club is dead when apparently there are 2 more interested groups and we haven't heard from them yet so alls not lost yet.

I may be a bit positive but I truly believe that if the fans are positive the buyers will be more positive, why would any potentail buyer want to buy a club when they know that they will get stick.

I want a statement from Fry now to update us on any other potential bids and where exactly the money from the sell of the players are going to.

StPete says...
2:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintrooty wrote:
well blow me down, got a reply from the txt to TL. This is no wind up so here it is....

Glynn(thats me)

Thankyou for your message. If anyone wishes to hurl abuse at me or my colleagues, they have missed the point entirely.
A full detailed statement will follow but in shortit's mereley about "risk and interpertation" of the agreement being offered. I am sure a compromise will be reached. Regards TL

So there you go from the horses mouth before anyone has got it, Its a Glynn Root exclusive.

Still im not happy but am considering a move into journalism
You're a right tit if you think abusing anyone will make the situation any better

Anonymous, says...
2:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!

adam1981 says...
2:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon
well people follow football out of passion,that is what i am trying to say to you,it is a passion,not just with saints fans but millions and millions of fans around the world.

we can't just flick a switch and say oh well never mind it's only football,even though at this precise moment in time i wish i could!

saint_luke says...
2:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If you have come on here to cry about people starving in the world i think you might be on the wrong website. This is about SFC and the fact that we are now in a even bigger hole and me donating 2 pound a month to starving children aint going to help.

Fides says...
2:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

gkmeech wrote:
Matt hasn't been duped as many suggest. Look at his statement on Sky Sports News, where you will come to the conclusion that the FL is dicking everyone around. Why wont they come clean on what issues they are refusing to clarify. If they are responsible for the bulk of football in this country they have a duty to keep fans informed.
Now that Pinnacle have pulled out, they (or MLT) could clarify what the issues were that came up at the last minute to prevent the deal.

They could also tell us who the single individual with personal wealth of of several hundreds of millions was.

Then we could start to come to a proper conclusion about who is dicking who around.

Anonymous, says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon
well people follow football out of passion,that is what i am trying to say to you,it is a passion,not just with saints fans but millions and millions of fans around the world.

we can't just flick a switch and say oh well never mind it's only football,even though at this precise moment in time i wish i could!
I understand the passion. I do. I just find it funny that people are so sensitive about it. It's possible to be passionate about something, without being an irrational, butthurt, whining pansy. Shouting and screaming at anybody who has a bad word to say, doesn't have to go hand-in-hand with passion

saintrooty says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintrooty wrote:
well blow me down, got a reply from the txt to TL. This is no wind up so here it is.... Glynn(thats me) Thankyou for your message. If anyone wishes to hurl abuse at me or my colleagues, they have missed the point entirely. A full detailed statement will follow but in shortit's mereley about "risk and interpertation" of the agreement being offered. I am sure a compromise will be reached. Regards TL So there you go from the horses mouth before anyone has got it, Its a Glynn Root exclusive. Still im not happy but am considering a move into journalism
original message sent to TL:

Mr Lynham, I, Unlike others will not be hurling a torrent of abuse at you. All I ask is that you, Mr Fialka and MLT come and and make a statement to us, the fans, explaining really what happened. It may not save our club but your time consuming tittle tattle with the football league may have killed off our club. All we ask for is clarity. I look forward to your response.

Anonymous, says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saint_luke wrote:
If you have come on here to cry about people starving in the world i think you might be on the wrong website. This is about SFC and the fact that we are now in a even bigger hole and me donating 2 pound a month to starving children aint going to help.
WIN! You spectacularly missed my point! Lulz all round, then

Anonymous, says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saint_luke wrote:
If you have come on here to cry about people starving in the world i think you might be on the wrong website. This is about SFC and the fact that we are now in a even bigger hole and me donating 2 pound a month to starving children aint going to help.
WIN! You spectacularly missed my point! Lulz all round, then

saint_luke says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
Im not angry and im not swearing at kids. And no i wouldn't make a good manger. I think trivial is not a good word for this situation look at the state of our club.

ROMAN37 says...
2:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

One of the main reasons Pinnacle have withdrawn is the real concern that the Football League may impose even more penalty points if the club did not pay the wages this week. This possibility of further points deductions was obviously not known by Pinnacle previously.

True Saints Fan says...
2:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saint_luke wrote:
If you have come on here to cry about people starving in the world i think you might be on the wrong website. This is about SFC and the fact that we are now in a even bigger hole and me donating 2 pound a month to starving children aint going to help.
I wasn't thinking of the starving Africans.. I was thinking about all the retarded posters on this webshite

Bashfan says...
2:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The ongoing issues with the FL may be nothing to do with extra points being deducted. It may be because the FL decided that the bidders did not have the funds to proceed.

The only positive thing to come from this is that the price to buy the club in its entirety will have dropped thanks to MF's incomptetence.

BP says...
2:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this?
Are you angry about something?
Are you just bored?
Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc.
Very strange person.

St.Stubb says...
2:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.

Anonymous, says...
2:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saint_luke wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
Im not angry and im not swearing at kids. And no i wouldn't make a good manger. I think trivial is not a good word for this situation look at the state of our club.
It's just a club, dude

ShakeyWiffles says...
2:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game
I am glad I made you laugh. Because you too make me laugh, being such a sad joke. Do not feel that the worlds come to an end, just Saints, you know the big club that hepls brings thousands and thousands of pounds into our city and local shops etc every year. The likes of you will soon moan when prices and council tax go up. So whilst sitting in your shed polishing your military helmets, have a look at the bigger picture for our city, you muppet. If only life was as shiney and easy to work out as it is in your blissfully unaware head.
LOL you have made me laugh, but then I always had a soft spot for the simple
Don't worry about "him" "he's" a troll. Only trolls use the phrases "interwebs" ad "lulz"

True Saints Fan says...
2:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
They're on to me!

saintrooty says...
2:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

StPete wrote:
saintrooty wrote: well blow me down, got a reply from the txt to TL. This is no wind up so here it is.... Glynn(thats me) Thankyou for your message. If anyone wishes to hurl abuse at me or my colleagues, they have missed the point entirely. A full detailed statement will follow but in shortit's mereley about "risk and interpertation" of the agreement being offered. I am sure a compromise will be reached. Regards TL So there you go from the horses mouth before anyone has got it, Its a Glynn Root exclusive. Still im not happy but am considering a move into journalism
You're a right tit if you think abusing anyone will make the situation any better
very assuming of you st pete but if you read my post above with my original message then you will see there was no abuse. I wont hold my breath for an appology

pawnsacrifice says...
2:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Good I can change my fvcking club because I am sick of this one now....30 years i have supported thos club and It's come down to this debacle....I'm finished with it

adam1981 says...
2:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon
well people follow football out of passion,that is what i am trying to say to you,it is a passion,not just with saints fans but millions and millions of fans around the world. we can't just flick a switch and say oh well never mind it's only football,even though at this precise moment in time i wish i could!
I understand the passion. I do. I just find it funny that people are so sensitive about it. It's possible to be passionate about something, without being an irrational, butthurt, whining pansy. Shouting and screaming at anybody who has a bad word to say, doesn't have to go hand-in-hand with passion
err but when you have a passion for something it makes you act like that,thats why it is a passion,because it means something to you.

i am sure if you have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you loved and she/he dumped you'd have something to say about it? and why? because that person means so much to you.

i am sorry but i do give a **** about southampton and that is why i moan and get angry when i know there is probaly going to be no more southampton

soton3009 says...
2:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Really really gutted with all this.I really feel let down and all my optimism has vanished.Really can see no light at the end of this long, dark tunnel

saint_luke says...
2:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
Im not angry and im not swearing at kids. And no i wouldn't make a good manger. I think trivial is not a good word for this situation look at the state of our club.
It's just a club, dude
Yes i know its a club but that dont have nothing to do with people less fortunate in the world then does it! Dude

Anonymous, says...
2:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this?
Are you angry about something?
Are you just bored?
Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc.
Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it?

What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him?

Very strange, eh

heinz57 says...
3:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

reading between the lines of what MLT is saying it sounds like the FL are trying to impose further sanctions against the club i.e. an even bigger points deduction which would make survival even in L1 virtually impossible. Thanks Malwhinney for killing my club.

pawnsacrifice says...
3:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fry you are a clown of the highest order....you are way out of your depth and have destroyed this club.

Meribelsaint says...
3:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Jason D wrote:
Is it just me or does it really p**s anyone else off that some people on here seem delighted they've been proved right on what they've been telling us for weeks. You must be the same people who were delighted when we lost games last season and when we went into administration. Glad it gives you satisfaction because I can't find anything to feel pleased about right now.
Totally agree

Red n White for life.....and death it would appear

Anonymous, says...
3:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game
I am glad I made you laugh. Because you too make me laugh, being such a sad joke. Do not feel that the worlds come to an end, just Saints, you know the big club that hepls brings thousands and thousands of pounds into our city and local shops etc every year. The likes of you will soon moan when prices and council tax go up. So whilst sitting in your shed polishing your military helmets, have a look at the bigger picture for our city, you muppet. If only life was as shiney and easy to work out as it is in your blissfully unaware head.
LOL you have made me laugh, but then I always had a soft spot for the simple
Don't worry about "him" "he's" a troll. Only trolls use the phrases "interwebs" ad "lulz"
NO U

ShakeyWiffles says...
3:01pm Tue 30 Jun 09

unbelievably sad. YES it's just a football club, but I seriously cannot imagine us not existing! :'(

True Saints Fan says...
3:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..

Alicesdad says...
3:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Blaming Fry is like blaming the undertaker at a funeral. The club was financially dead long before he came on the scene.

Looking at the annual report and accounts going back two years shows that "new investment" was being actively sought. i.e. they wanted someone mega rich to drop a few millions our way in exchange for a good seat on match days.

The last few weeks has been pure desperation. When investors see the debt, the points deduction and the absence of players and staff they must be asking "what is there to buy?"

I hope that there is some consortium, Swiss or otherwise that gives this club a go and tries to rescue it.

If we are wound up after the Friday deadline, as seems likely, then a shudder will pass through English football as a club of 124 years standing will pass into the record books as the first big club to cease to exist.

I will not be the only Saints fan who look back at a lifetime of support and be thinking of many years of good times.

All that remains is to reflect that in these money obsessed times the rich get richer and the rest just disappear.

Anonymous, says...
3:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon
well people follow football out of passion,that is what i am trying to say to you,it is a passion,not just with saints fans but millions and millions of fans around the world. we can't just flick a switch and say oh well never mind it's only football,even though at this precise moment in time i wish i could!
I understand the passion. I do. I just find it funny that people are so sensitive about it. It's possible to be passionate about something, without being an irrational, butthurt, whining pansy. Shouting and screaming at anybody who has a bad word to say, doesn't have to go hand-in-hand with passion
err but when you have a passion for something it makes you act like that,thats why it is a passion,because it means something to you.

i am sure if you have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you loved and she/he dumped you'd have something to say about it? and why? because that person means so much to you.

i am sorry but i do give a **** about southampton and that is why i moan and get angry when i know there is probaly going to be no more southampton
For me, passion is a positive thing. There's nothing but negativity around the passion for football. Most saints fans I know get more delight out of pompey losing that their own team winning, for example. Strange idea of passion that.

As for being dumped, well, don't you think implying you have a closeness with an abstract concept such as a football club in the same vein as with a real person is a little, well, sad?

San Marco says...
3:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fides wrote:
gkmeech wrote:
Matt hasn't been duped as many suggest. Look at his statement on Sky Sports News, where you will come to the conclusion that the FL is dicking everyone around. Why wont they come clean on what issues they are refusing to clarify. If they are responsible for the bulk of football in this country they have a duty to keep fans informed.
Now that Pinnacle have pulled out, they (or MLT) could clarify what the issues were that came up at the last minute to prevent the deal.

They could also tell us who the single individual with personal wealth of of several hundreds of millions was.

Then we could start to come to a proper conclusion about who is dicking who around.
Although I can't agree with your argument that the fans are to blame for all this Fides I think this post is spot on - No need for secrecy now. MLT/Pinnacle can tell all...

Anonymous, says...
3:09pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..
It is, isn't it! The reactions here, the reactions to the news and to the comments, parallel the behaviour of fans watching a game. They believe they can influence the game by shouting playing advice at players, even through a one-way communications system going the wrong way (TV) and they believe they can somehow infer all manner of facts about anonymous internet users simply because those users say something they don't agree with.

They think that their life is actually, really affected by the outcome of a game played by other people, without any foundation whatsoever. They think abusing and insulting someone who is obviously asking for it will have any effect at all, too.

Quite the magical thinkers, football fans eh!

Not that I'm making any pretence at a psychological experiment

John Wade says...
3:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ourkid1984 wrote:
Why are people blamming Le Tiss? He only supported the Pinnacle bid, he wasn't involved in anything apart from believing that they had the money and resources to complete the bid. What don't people understand? Also why are people banging on about the club is dead when apparently there are 2 more interested groups and we haven't heard from them yet so alls not lost yet. I may be a bit positive but I truly believe that if the fans are positive the buyers will be more positive, why would any potentail buyer want to buy a club when they know that they will get stick. I want a statement from Fry now to update us on any other potential bids and where exactly the money from the sell of the players are going to.
I thought Le Tiss was going to be on the board which means he was doing more then 'just supporting'. How ironic that the man who saved you for all them years in his playing days played a major part in pushing the club into oblivion.

FaceonaBus says...
3:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..
It is, isn't it! The reactions here, the reactions to the news and to the comments, parallel the behaviour of fans watching a game. They believe they can influence the game by shouting playing advice at players, even through a one-way communications system going the wrong way (TV) and they believe they can somehow infer all manner of facts about anonymous internet users simply because those users say something they don't agree with.

They think that their life is actually, really affected by the outcome of a game played by other people, without any foundation whatsoever. They think abusing and insulting someone who is obviously asking for it will have any effect at all, too.

Quite the magical thinkers, football fans eh!

Not that I'm making any pretence at a psychological experiment
You dont come across being bright enough to carry out an intelligent experiment.
When alls said and done, you are right it is only a game. But it is a game that many of us put much time, money and effort into. Now if you cant understand why people get so passionate about a game then you are also cr*p at pyschology. You may need to get out a little more, me thinks, or is it I think, I think, does that mean I exist?? ( probably a bit too deep for you)

BP says...
3:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
Ive just realised that replying to you is arousing you.
I think I will end our conversation there.

True Saints Fan says...
3:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
adam1981 wrote:
Anonymous, wrote: Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
don't you have any passions in your life you sad little boy?
Of course I do! But I don't whine about them on the interwebs all the time, and cry when I don't get my own way
well surely your passion is annoying people and what have you done? you have come on to the 'interweb' as you put it to do it so surely in fact you are whining about things on the net?
Who's whining? PROTIP: not everybody does everything out of passion. Annoying you isn't my passion, it's a way to kill some time on a slow afternoon
well people follow football out of passion,that is what i am trying to say to you,it is a passion,not just with saints fans but millions and millions of fans around the world. we can't just flick a switch and say oh well never mind it's only football,even though at this precise moment in time i wish i could!
I understand the passion. I do. I just find it funny that people are so sensitive about it. It's possible to be passionate about something, without being an irrational, butthurt, whining pansy. Shouting and screaming at anybody who has a bad word to say, doesn't have to go hand-in-hand with passion
err but when you have a passion for something it makes you act like that,thats why it is a passion,because it means something to you. i am sure if you have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you loved and she/he dumped you'd have something to say about it? and why? because that person means so much to you. i am sorry but i do give a **** about southampton and that is why i moan and get angry when i know there is probaly going to be no more southampton
For me, passion is a positive thing. There's nothing but negativity around the passion for football. Most saints fans I know get more delight out of pompey losing that their own team winning, for example. Strange idea of passion that. As for being dumped, well, don't you think implying you have a closeness with an abstract concept such as a football club in the same vein as with a real person is a little, well, sad?
Annonymous you're far too intellectual for this lot..

weedlord says...
3:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..
It is, isn't it! The reactions here, the reactions to the news and to the comments, parallel the behaviour of fans watching a game. They believe they can influence the game by shouting playing advice at players, even through a one-way communications system going the wrong way (TV) and they believe they can somehow infer all manner of facts about anonymous internet users simply because those users say something they don't agree with.

They think that their life is actually, really affected by the outcome of a game played by other people, without any foundation whatsoever. They think abusing and insulting someone who is obviously asking for it will have any effect at all, too.

Quite the magical thinkers, football fans eh!

Not that I'm making any pretence at a psychological experiment
Seems like you've got an awful lot of care there, Mr 4-Chan, can I help you with that?

Anonymous, says...
3:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
Ive just realised that replying to you is arousing you.
I think I will end our conversation there.
What makes you so well-versed in how you arouse other males?

ShakeyWiffles says...
3:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
Epic fails going on here! Everybody seems to think they've had their balls amputated or something. It's just a football club, guys, get over it. Go do something, rather than watch someone else do it for a change!
We havent had our balls amputated, its worse than that.
You are obviously that bothered so dont post and p*ss us fans off anymore.
Pointless post.
Nah I'd rather keep posting thanks. Not my fault you get so butthurt so easily over a game
GO and sit on your shed and play with your military figures. If you have such low regard for football, why are you reading this then.Southampton really needs people like you.
LOL so what? Unlike you butthurt lot, I don't imagine myself to make any difference to the situation. I'm reading this because it always makes me laugh to see whiny football fans acting as if the world's come to an end every time something goes wrong. Southampton does need people like me, who don't fall to pieces every time someone else loses a game
I am glad I made you laugh. Because you too make me laugh, being such a sad joke. Do not feel that the worlds come to an end, just Saints, you know the big club that hepls brings thousands and thousands of pounds into our city and local shops etc every year. The likes of you will soon moan when prices and council tax go up. So whilst sitting in your shed polishing your military helmets, have a look at the bigger picture for our city, you muppet. If only life was as shiney and easy to work out as it is in your blissfully unaware head.
LOL you have made me laugh, but then I always had a soft spot for the simple
Don't worry about "him" "he's" a troll. Only trolls use the phrases "interwebs" ad "lulz"
NO U
What on earth does shouting NO U at me do?

True Saints Fan says...
3:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..
It is, isn't it! The reactions here, the reactions to the news and to the comments, parallel the behaviour of fans watching a game. They believe they can influence the game by shouting playing advice at players, even through a one-way communications system going the wrong way (TV) and they believe they can somehow infer all manner of facts about anonymous internet users simply because those users say something they don't agree with. They think that their life is actually, really affected by the outcome of a game played by other people, without any foundation whatsoever. They think abusing and insulting someone who is obviously asking for it will have any effect at all, too. Quite the magical thinkers, football fans eh! Not that I'm making any pretence at a psychological experiment
You dont come across being bright enough to carry out an intelligent experiment. When alls said and done, you are right it is only a game. But it is a game that many of us put much time, money and effort into. Now if you cant understand why people get so passionate about a game then you are also cr*p at pyschology. You may need to get out a little more, me thinks, or is it I think, I think, does that mean I exist?? ( probably a bit too deep for you)
You can't tell how intelligent I am from these posts. You might not be able to refrain from pouring your entire personality into a post on the internets, but others can manage it just fine. Also, telling someone else to get out more, when you freely admit your main passion is sitting indoors watching someone else play a game, well, that's a bit dumb really
I'd like to remind you all It's my psychological experiment

st ewe saint says...
3:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

We all knew about the 10 points.....we all knew what the leagues track record is like (ie Leeds).....so why go all this way ? maybe more points will be taken,but they were on to a winner here.500 grand to pull out.....crazy. Mr Fry needs to tell us by midnight,what the hell is going on. If the mcgoldrick money..and maybe Surman,goes towards keeping the club afloat,then let us know.We want to keep the football club alive,forget promotions,just to survive to play the first game would be enough.Im gutted !!! Up the saints forever.

SW= burn-used you said it !

SFC4lifetilidie says...
3:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I can't believe Le Satan has done to this to us. He owes us.

mrmenontour says...
3:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

There is only 2 words that puts you where you are today







































INIGO IDIAKEZ

ourkid1984 says...
3:21pm Tue 30 Jun 09

John Wade wrote:
ourkid1984 wrote: Why are people blamming Le Tiss? He only supported the Pinnacle bid, he wasn't involved in anything apart from believing that they had the money and resources to complete the bid. What don't people understand? Also why are people banging on about the club is dead when apparently there are 2 more interested groups and we haven't heard from them yet so alls not lost yet. I may be a bit positive but I truly believe that if the fans are positive the buyers will be more positive, why would any potentail buyer want to buy a club when they know that they will get stick. I want a statement from Fry now to update us on any other potential bids and where exactly the money from the sell of the players are going to.
I thought Le Tiss was going to be on the board which means he was doing more then 'just supporting'. How ironic that the man who saved you for all them years in his playing days played a major part in pushing the club into oblivion.
I thought he was going to be on the football board, slightly different to being on the board of the business. Again this was all speculation and I doubt that he would of been involved in any financial discussions.

if it wasn't for Le Tiss we would of been in this state a long time ago.

wonder weasel says...
3:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

buffalosoldier wrote:
as i commented at the weekend: i offered anyone 10-1 that pinnacle would NOT!!! close a deal by 23.59 this evening. they are a shambles and have dragged this club to the brink of extinction.

as i also commented the time-frame would force any serious bidders to think again! nobody in their right mind is gonna sign up and invest in a business thats already gone t*ts up without a complete period of due dilligence.
Fry, MLT, leon all got into to bed with pinnacle and they will rue the day that they chose to align themselves with this group of chancers.

in reality the other potential bidders wont go ahead this week so the club will first go through being wound up
go away you moron you knew p!ss all ,hope your happt things went the way you wanted , need tw'ts like you like hole in the head full of shat from day one

saint_luke says...
3:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mrmenontour wrote:
There is only 2 words that puts you where you are today INIGO IDIAKEZ
Glad you used all that space for that. Still would have had to win the final!

Saintan says...
3:23pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I spoke to begbies traynor about the stage of the bidding and they confirmed there are still two parties negotiating and that the contract drawn up for the Pinnacle bid is still "live" and if a new bidder wanted to take it over it could be completed in a short space of time

maybe pinnacle have helped setup a scenario where another consortium could take their place, conclude the deal quickly, and still have the opportunity to question the Football Leagues integrity in a court of law.

We're not dead and buried yet - let's keep fighting and praying someone good is watching

We've moved into sotppage time at the end of the game, 1-0 down after Wupert Lowelife's astonishingly malevolent own goal, but it only takes a moment to score a couple of goals

Ive seen Saints pull it out of bag on too many occasions to give up now

No Surrender!

COYR

SW well-able

TheFatLadySings says...
3:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Could it be that selling the PLC as a whole is worth less to the creditors than selling off the assets piece by piece?

Football as a competitive sport is over in this country and will remain so until the real meltdown begins...

saintsfan77 says...
3:25pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place.
There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!

True Saints Fan says...
3:27pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Not me.. I've got kids to feed

GARY1976 says...
3:28pm Tue 30 Jun 09

but come on saintan nobody is going to accept what the fl are proposing, at the end of the day we are a business and would you invest in us

saint_luke says...
3:28pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Ive already put money into Save our Saints but it aint worked!!!

Jesus_02 says...
3:28pm Tue 30 Jun 09

San Marco wrote:
Fides wrote:
gkmeech wrote: Matt hasn't been duped as many suggest. Look at his statement on Sky Sports News, where you will come to the conclusion that the FL is dicking everyone around. Why wont they come clean on what issues they are refusing to clarify. If they are responsible for the bulk of football in this country they have a duty to keep fans informed.
Now that Pinnacle have pulled out, they (or MLT) could clarify what the issues were that came up at the last minute to prevent the deal. They could also tell us who the single individual with personal wealth of of several hundreds of millions was. Then we could start to come to a proper conclusion about who is dicking who around.
Although I can't agree with your argument that the fans are to blame for all this Fides I think this post is spot on - No need for secrecy now. MLT/Pinnacle can tell all...
I agree San Marco, it's scary, but i agree with Fides.

I have heard that TFL wouldn't give a license to play until we provided a CVA...which we couldn’t provide because we weren’t in administration...The
n wanted to add additional penalties if we did because we haven’t paid staff.

Its all conjecture. I notice that TFL have made no statement on the subject… I doubt that they will until they can say that a buyer “could not be found”

holycow says...
3:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Good grief! What a bunch of brainless, arrogant, to$$ers most of you are! Even if the FL had agreed to the final proposal put to them by the Pinnacle Group, one look at the posts on here would have had any potential investors running for the hills. These guys have spent the past 6 weeks working their bits off, having the available funds confirmed by both Fry and the FL, having to succumb to (and pass) "fit and proper" tests, paying out in excess of £1m (and no doubt even more to come as they're obliged to pay the FL's legal fees too), trying to put together a deal that will not only save the club, but give it a fighting chance in the years to come and all most of you can do is slag them off. Just what have you knockers done to help, eh? With attitudes like yours, what hope is there?

normsted says...
3:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place.
There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly

mr tein says...
3:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So our financial woes are destroying us. It looks like Portsmouth could well follow suit as their middle east backer is as elusive as Pinnacle were and their contingent of first time players diminishes in direct contrast to their debts.
It seems that maybe the fans may have to bury the hatchet, preferably in the heads of the money men and work together to create a south coast giant. But is it Porthampton or SouthMouth.

FaceonaBus says...
3:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Not me.. I've got kids to feed
True Saints
I am with you on this one, I think I shall put my money where my kids mouths are.
Saintsfan77, Just for the record I, like many others have put more than two thousand pounds into Saints(Lowes) pockets year in year out for many many years now.

ShakeyWiffles says...
3:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place.
There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also

InThatNumber says...
3:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Conspiracy Theory!!! The Pinnacle group and in particular Michael Fialka were to be funded by a Jewish consortium in London. Well there is a huge Jewish community in and around the Tottenham area, well we all know who manages Tottenham Fc don't we.....! Has Harry Redknapp outshone his previous antics at St Mary's and buried this club once and for all???

tonkerthomas says...
3:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

By the way, Red Bull is Austrian, not Swiss.

saintsfan77 says...
3:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The save our saints fund was to pay the wages, what your £100 pounds would do is to buy you a share in the club and you would get a reward from being a shareholder !!!!!!! as i said money where your mouths are

Pedant says...
3:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So Ted Rogers of Winchester was right all along. Perhaps he can now tell us some more. What came up "at the last minute" that Pinnacle didn`t know 5,6,7 or 8 weeks ago? Could it be that the mystery money man (not Fialke) didn`t realise he would actually need to reveal himself to the FL so he could be checked out as a fit and proper person AND to make sure he didn`t have a stake in other clubs.
Or perhaps MLT would like to tell us a bit more?

normsted says...
3:36pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Jesus_02 wrote:
San Marco wrote:
Fides wrote:
gkmeech wrote: Matt hasn't been duped as many suggest. Look at his statement on Sky Sports News, where you will come to the conclusion that the FL is dicking everyone around. Why wont they come clean on what issues they are refusing to clarify. If they are responsible for the bulk of football in this country they have a duty to keep fans informed.
Now that Pinnacle have pulled out, they (or MLT) could clarify what the issues were that came up at the last minute to prevent the deal. They could also tell us who the single individual with personal wealth of of several hundreds of millions was. Then we could start to come to a proper conclusion about who is dicking who around.
Although I can't agree with your argument that the fans are to blame for all this Fides I think this post is spot on - No need for secrecy now. MLT/Pinnacle can tell all...
I agree San Marco, it's scary, but i agree with Fides.

I have heard that TFL wouldn't give a license to play until we provided a CVA...which we couldn’t provide because we weren’t in administration...The

n wanted to add additional penalties if we did because we haven’t paid staff.

Its all conjecture. I notice that TFL have made no statement on the subject… I doubt that they will until they can say that a buyer “could not be found”
I think jesus 02 you are bang on.the FL wanted an admission of admin-mission impossible.

saintsfan77 says...
3:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Exactly what i was saying i paid this to go into lowes pocket, new start your money your club you get the idea, not anybody elses, Barca do it why can't we !!!!!
I have kids and well i would gladly put in £100 to shut you lot up !!!!!!! lol

Anonymous,, says...
3:40pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Seek help now

FaceonaBus says...
3:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
BP wrote:
Anonymous, wrote:
saint_luke wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I can just picture all the angry fans posting on here. All red in the face swearing at the monitor.. I could always pick you out in the crowd at St. Mary's. Always hurling abuse and swearing at the players and coaching staff -thinking you knew best -without any regard for the little kids sat just infront of you .. It's a sad reflection on you and society how angry and upset you're all getting at something so trivial.... I am a Saints fan but I'm also a rational human being unlike the majority on here. Saints will be bought eventually and very soon I'm sure.. In the mean time let's all just calm down and spare a thought for all those less fortunates in the world.
SHUT UP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Dude you just proved his point for him! Nice move!
I am unsure why you feel the need to do this? Are you angry about something? Are you just bored? Whether you care about this or not, there are plenty of us that do and its a little bit tragic that you get kicks out of winding people up via your pc. Very strange person.
Meh. It's not a need, it's a want. I'm bored, but I'm also interested in how venomous some otherwise probably-adult people get over what is, passion aside, a game. Yes, I understand it's a big deal to some, but to take things so personally, well, that's the same thinking that lies behind football violence, isn't it? What's more tragic? That one person gets a kick out of winding you up? Or that so many of you see fit to hurl endless personal insults at someone you've never met, simply because you don't agree with him? Very strange, eh
This is a fantastic psychological experiment.. Thank you all for taking part..
It is, isn't it! The reactions here, the reactions to the news and to the comments, parallel the behaviour of fans watching a game. They believe they can influence the game by shouting playing advice at players, even through a one-way communications system going the wrong way (TV) and they believe they can somehow infer all manner of facts about anonymous internet users simply because those users say something they don't agree with. They think that their life is actually, really affected by the outcome of a game played by other people, without any foundation whatsoever. They think abusing and insulting someone who is obviously asking for it will have any effect at all, too. Quite the magical thinkers, football fans eh! Not that I'm making any pretence at a psychological experiment
You dont come across being bright enough to carry out an intelligent experiment. When alls said and done, you are right it is only a game. But it is a game that many of us put much time, money and effort into. Now if you cant understand why people get so passionate about a game then you are also cr*p at pyschology. You may need to get out a little more, me thinks, or is it I think, I think, does that mean I exist?? ( probably a bit too deep for you)
You can't tell how intelligent I am from these posts. You might not be able to refrain from pouring your entire personality into a post on the internets, but others can manage it just fine. Also, telling someone else to get out more, when you freely admit your main passion is sitting indoors watching someone else play a game, well, that's a bit dumb really
I'd like to remind you all It's my psychological experiment
his is my last response to yourself. I am not a registered charity and therefore will not put too much time in helping the simpletons.
As regards to getting out, I never said I sat indoors, some of us used to go to SMS and mix with people, instead of trying to be witty or wind up people whilst hiding in a forum. Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but going bak through some of your postings, you seem to have nothing of interest to say. I repeat my earlier comment that at least we "fans" are on here talking about Saints, which we have passion for. I still have trouble understanding why someone that does not appear to like or understand football, wishes to read and post on the subject.
In future please read the full post before replying, it makes it so much more fun, and the added bonus of looking like you can (a) read, and (b) know what you are talking about, unless you can forward a quote of mine where I freely admit sitting indoors watching someone else play a game.
Enough said, you are not only boring me, but I am starting to feel quite sorry for you aswell.......

Chicago Saint says...
3:42pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Although living a world away, I follow the Saints with passion. As I see things, MLT is NOT to blame. Surely his intentions were pure but he was simply a puppet for the "big boys". Fry was just doing his job, Lowe on the other hand...

Everything happens for a reason, and perhaps the Pinnacle's withdrawal may be a blessing in disguise for one of the other two groups to step it up and purchase the club. I am certain that they are smart enough to act quickly if they are sincerely serious about an acquisition. This club not only needs a savior, but it also needs some deep pockets for the transfer market if it is to make a run back in the Championship this season. For this reason, the Swiss group may be a better fit instead of a happy-go-lucky leasing agent without a pot to **** in.

But what is absolutely critical right now is that they do it in lightning speed in order to save the likes of Davis, Surman, etc. from jumping ship.

I only hope that Wotte and the players give it till the end of the week before they decide to make career changes before the takeover.

I just cannot fathom the idea that this is the end of the club! Us fans must stay united for the sake of the club and welcome any investor with open arms when it's all over. In my heart, I truly believe that someone will step in and pull the trigger in time, but it would be detrimental to the club if they were not welcomed with open arms by all.

Gingothesaint says...
3:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I come on here to hear news about saints, not to hear you to retards b*tching. get ovr it will you and stop wasting my F5's

FarehamStripey says...
3:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

For once tho Portsmouth arent airing their dirty washing in public and I think in 2 weeks they will be sorted with their new billionaire and I can only look on in envy - How times change over the course of a few years - They will be stable in the PL for years to come and we'll be in the Wessex League. Not happy!

mrmenontour says...
3:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

What you seem forget oh dinny one is that POMPEY ALREADY HAVE AN OWNER who the debt belongs to lock stock and barrel. We will be fine and thats what you just cant stomach. We will be taken over because we are something you are unfortunately are not and that is A PREMIERSHIP CLUB. BYE BYE SCUMPTIES

ShakeyWiffles says...
3:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous,, wrote:
Lulz! Banhammered! Oh noes!
Totally a troll! Do you take part in those scandal type groups on facebook? It wouldn't surprise me at all

Frome Saint says...
3:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Willy1 wrote:
So, what happens to saints? Do they disolve or do they get relegated to the conference to start again?
A new club could be formed but it would not be in the Conference. I suspect it would have to start at Wessex Leage league level or lower, assuming it could prove it had the funds, and the infrastructure to operate. Sadly that probably will not be at St Marys so a ground share would be the first option.

It's all too depressing unless a last minute deal is about to be signed

Frome Saint says...
3:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place.
There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also
A new club could be formed but it would not be in the Conference. I suspect it would have to start at Wessex Leage league level or lower, assuming it could prove it had the funds, and the infrastructure to operate. Sadly that probably will not be at St Marys so a ground share would be the first option.

It's all too depressing unless a last minute deal is about to be signed

ShakeyWiffles says...
3:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Ooh, SW just got my hopes up :S here-deal!

adam1981 says...
3:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

holycow wrote:
Good grief! What a bunch of brainless, arrogant, to$$ers most of you are! Even if the FL had agreed to the final proposal put to them by the Pinnacle Group, one look at the posts on here would have had any potential investors running for the hills. These guys have spent the past 6 weeks working their bits off, having the available funds confirmed by both Fry and the FL, having to succumb to (and pass) "fit and proper" tests, paying out in excess of £1m (and no doubt even more to come as they're obliged to pay the FL's legal fees too), trying to put together a deal that will not only save the club, but give it a fighting chance in the years to come and all most of you can do is slag them off. Just what have you knockers done to help, eh? With attitudes like yours, what hope is there?
err they have not done a deal,thats why we are slagging them off! all of the effort they put in before was pointless so we don't need to appreciate them at all,in fact far from it!

AwaySaint says...
3:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous,
"Lulz", "Butthurt", "Interwebs", "banhammered".....
seriously, nobody uses these unless they're being ironic....sadly I fear you are not.
You'll be calling me a noob next.

Back to /b/ with you.

Frome Saint says...
3:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place.
There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also
Me too definatley- don't tell the wife though!

FaceonaBus says...
3:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

OK BORED OF THIS NOW.

Long live the Saints..

COYR COYR COYR

Anonymous,, says...
3:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?

Gingothesaint says...
3:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Frome Saint wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote: So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also
Me too definatley- don't tell the wife though!
ditto £200 from me if need be?

saintsfan77 says...
3:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

You see £300 pounds in half hour, give it a week and the 30,000 fans that say they are fans could save the club pay the wages and buy some more !!!!!! okay i will wake up now. But it could be that easy

holycow says...
3:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09

adam1981, southampton says...
3:50pm today Tue 30 Jun 09
holycow wrote:
Good grief! What a bunch of brainless, arrogant, to$$ers most of you are! Even if the FL had agreed to the final proposal put to them by the Pinnacle Group, one look at the posts on here would have had any potential investors running for the hills. These guys have spent the past 6 weeks working their bits off, having the available funds confirmed by both Fry and the FL, having to succumb to (and pass) "fit and proper" tests, paying out in excess of £1m (and no doubt even more to come as they're obliged to pay the FL's legal fees too), trying to put together a deal that will not only save the club, but give it a fighting chance in the years to come and all most of you can do is slag them off. Just what have you knockers done to help, eh? With attitudes like yours, what hope is there?
err they have not done a deal,thats why we are slagging them off! all of the effort they put in before was pointless so we don't need to appreciate them at all,in fact far from it!
*********
But they are the only ones who have tried! All the other so-called interested parties have failed to put their money where their mouths are. Perhaps they've been reading these comments?

saintsfan77 says...
3:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

well thats £500 pounds in half hour the ball is rolling !!!!!

Fawleysajollygoodfellow says...
3:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
You see £300 pounds in half hour, give it a week and the 30,000 fans that say they are fans could save the club pay the wages and buy some more !!!!!! okay i will wake up now. But it could be that easy
I suggested the Barca model three weeks ago and got flamed.

jimclarke says...
3:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

St.Stubb wrote:
The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.
Where did this info come from?

FaceonaBus says...
3:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

JUST IN........
Cant verify yet but apparently..........

Pinnacle pulled out because the Football League wanted to:

a) Add another 10pt penalty to the 10pts already deducted;
b) Add an additional 7pts to that penalty...

Giving us a starting point of -27 - hence the pull-outs today from Jackson & Pinnacle.

True Saints Fan says...
3:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Annonymous would you like to meet me on So'ton common toight

saintsfan77 says...
3:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The Barca idea got flamed because everyone thought that we were being bought my a mega rich man, and not a guy from north london who lives with his mum !!!!, its a great idea and involves the community

robhythe says...
3:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Gingothesaint wrote:
Frome Saint wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote: So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also
Me too definatley- don't tell the wife though!
ditto £200 from me if need be?
id be in!! How many people would be needed?

adam1981 says...
3:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

i doubt it,how do we know what the other groups have tried? plus what good is trying? that won't save us! as well do not forget that pinnacle were the only group that was offered exclusivity so that means they could not try and do a deal until that over anyway.

FaceonaBus says...
3:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

jimclarke wrote:
St.Stubb wrote:
The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.
Where did this info come from?
Same as I just been told, may be some truth in it

Northamfaithfull says...
3:57pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Am gutted, Goodbye southampton :(

Gingothesaint says...
3:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
well thats £500 pounds in half hour the ball is rolling !!!!!
seriously man count me in, if someone sets up a proper group.....LEGIT. I would put in 200 a month till problem was sorted?

Anonymous,, says...
3:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

AwaySaint wrote:
Anonymous,
"Lulz", "Butthurt", "Interwebs", "banhammered".....
seriously, nobody uses these unless they're being ironic....sadly I fear you are not.
You'll be calling me a noob next.

Back to /b/ with you.
How'd you reach this conclusion, Columbo? What's the rule? Anyone using these words in your presence is incapable of irony? Inquiring minds want to know...

FaceonaBus says...
3:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

All the passion and anger on here. I think its about time some of this gets directed to the FL. It would be nice to hear their reasoning for doing this to ANY club

Fawleysajollygoodfellow says...
4:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True. All we need now is 10,000 to cough up £1k............

Come on Red Bull, I'll even start liking the stuff

saintsfan77 says...
4:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

what was the average attendance at st marys when in the Prem 25-30000, could be in the millions, would be enough to save the club

mbr1488 says...
4:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

holycow wrote:
Good grief! What a bunch of brainless, arrogant, to$$ers most of you are! Even if the FL had agreed to the final proposal put to them by the Pinnacle Group, one look at the posts on here would have had any potential investors running for the hills. These guys have spent the past 6 weeks working their bits off, having the available funds confirmed by both Fry and the FL, having to succumb to (and pass) "fit and proper" tests, paying out in excess of £1m (and no doubt even more to come as they're obliged to pay the FL's legal fees too), trying to put together a deal that will not only save the club, but give it a fighting chance in the years to come and all most of you can do is slag them off. Just what have you knockers done to help, eh? With attitudes like yours, what hope is there?
well said

Saintan says...
4:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
All the passion and anger on here. I think its about time some of this gets directed to the FL. It would be nice to hear their reasoning for doing this to ANY club
im up for drafting a generic email all the fans can send

also thought bout doing an online petition to get winnie th poop sacked!

gotta b alot of angry luton, leeds and rotherham fans thatd sign it

mayb even the odd cherries fan

was gonna try and get Fry to sign it

(we cud ask Fats Jackson!?)

WACCOE says...
4:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If it goes to a vote of football league members, you can be sure of the support of LEEDS UNITED, LOL!

Fides says...
4:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

robhythe wrote:
Gingothesaint wrote:
Frome Saint wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
normsted wrote:
saintsfan77 wrote: So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
Gladly
me also
Me too definatley- don't tell the wife though!
ditto £200 from me if need be?
id be in!! How many people would be needed?
Just to find £15mil? 150,000 people. To have a realistic plan going forward? Do the sums yourself you lazy tyke. That's why the idea got flamed.

Anyone got Rupert's number? Maybe he'd like to make it third time lucky. Oh sod.

ShakeyWiffles says...
4:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous,, wrote:
So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?
Yes I can, the thing to do is not act bothered. Which I'm not, and not to reply, which I wont :)

Bring Back The Dell says...
4:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
I`ve been saying this on here since March/April time but perhaps with larger donominations of money, say £1000 each. Trouble is as you will find out on here that are a hell of a lot of talkers and very few doers. It`s nice to see you suggesting this finally got some positive response as I very rarely got that a few months ago, which ironically if we had done it then we wouldn`t have all this heartache now.

Bring Back The Dell says...
4:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

saintsfan77 wrote:
So nice to see that people are arguing with each other about nonsense, our club is going down the toilet there is nothing any of us can do now except wait for a knight in shining armour to save it, otherwise there will be trials next week for the Southampton City FC, at the local rec. To play in the Blue square league. Pull your heads out of your arses and get real, it was this in fighting that caused this problem in the first place. There is another option every fan put in £100 pounds and be a shareholder in the club. Now how many of you would put your money where your mouths are to save this club I for one would. Anybody else !!!!!!
I`ve been saying this on here since March/April time but perhaps with larger donominations of money, say £1000 each. Trouble is as you will find out on here that are a hell of a lot of talkers and very few doers. It`s nice to see you suggesting this finally got some positive response as I very rarely got that a few months ago, which ironically if we had done it then we wouldn`t have all this heartache now.

peterlb says...
4:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

How ironic that the Le God is currently appearing on COUNTDOWN...... spooky

weh8pompey says...
4:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mbr1488 wrote:
holycow wrote: Good grief! What a bunch of brainless, arrogant, to$$ers most of you are! Even if the FL had agreed to the final proposal put to them by the Pinnacle Group, one look at the posts on here would have had any potential investors running for the hills. These guys have spent the past 6 weeks working their bits off, having the available funds confirmed by both Fry and the FL, having to succumb to (and pass) "fit and proper" tests, paying out in excess of £1m (and no doubt even more to come as they're obliged to pay the FL's legal fees too), trying to put together a deal that will not only save the club, but give it a fighting chance in the years to come and all most of you can do is slag them off. Just what have you knockers done to help, eh? With attitudes like yours, what hope is there?
well said
shut up you old ****!!!!!the pinnacle group was the most ridiculous group of waynekers i have ever known.first of all with there "mystery man" i mean how childish was that?and then saying he had"several hundred million pound" when he didnt.knock down that sh@t hole st marys and start fresh in a better area.

FaceonaBus says...
4:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan, Eastleigh

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Little things please little minds.
If it wasnt in your name I would question which club you support.
Heres a psychological one for you.......... I pity you, now why do you think I am saying that you clever little so and so?????????


Try to keep calm about having another response !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andy newbury says...
4:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I have heard that kelvin has allready gone to hest ham if it is true I for one would like to say thank you for your efforts last season and good luck to you with your new club and that I hope they appreciate what a true pro you are. Now we all just wait to see what happens next!!! Not going to blame anyone BUT it,s a total **** up all round.

True Saints Fan says...
4:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
Anonymous,, wrote: So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?
Yes I can, the thing to do is not act bothered. Which I'm not, and not to reply, which I wont :)
Apart from this post of course

FaceonaBus says...
4:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
All the passion and anger on here. I think its about time some of this gets directed to the FL. It would be nice to hear their reasoning for doing this to ANY club
im up for drafting a generic email all the fans can send

also thought bout doing an online petition to get winnie th poop sacked!

gotta b alot of angry luton, leeds and rotherham fans thatd sign it

mayb even the odd cherries fan

was gonna try and get Fry to sign it

(we cud ask Fats Jackson!?)


GOOD SHOUT
LETS DO IT MATE. its not like we have anyhting to lose.

ANYONE ELSE UP FOR THIS ONE.

True Saints Fan says...
4:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Little things please little minds. If it wasnt in your name I would question which club you support. Heres a psychological one for you.......... I pity you, now why do you think I am saying that you clever little so and so????????? Try to keep calm about having another response !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very clever... you're not as stupid as you first appear.. Although I'm not sure why you're saying that... enlighten me

Ocean Village resident says...
4:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Why doesn't Mark Fry contact this guy? I've just received an email from him, seems an extraordinary offer, get in there quick.
Could be the answer to Saints fans prayers.


From:David Bamba.
Tel:0022509214628

Dear One,

My Name is David Bamba. I am 22 years old.The only child of Late Chief Mr. Radci Bamba. I am an orphan and I wish to ask for your assistance in the execution of a financial transaction of USD $ 9 Million Dollars which I will like to invest in the area of manufacturing and the management of real estate and goods in your country.

I have business which I would like to invest in the transaction and your assistance by receiving the funds on your account in your country.


I will liberally like you to contact me immediately for more details through this number 0022509214628 or email.

I am waiting for your response for more details .

Thanks and God bless you.

David Bamba

ROMAN37 says...
4:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

St.Stubb wrote:
The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.
Spot on

ROMAN37 says...
4:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

St.Stubb wrote:
The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.
Spot on

RupertLoweIsGod says...
4:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This pinnacle bid clearly was a scam from the start. Mummies boy Fialka never had the money, he's managed to con either Crouch or MLT into paying a deposit so he could have his 5 minutes of fame. I hope they sue him for it. And I hope his parents give him a good spanking and send him to bed with no tea.

I'm afraid SFC is no more. That's it - finished.


mastershot100 says...
4:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I dont think there will be any football at St. Marys this coming season.
It is up to the fans now to form a new club from scratch.
With luck it may not come to this but we must be prepared.

HolyportSaint says...
4:18pm Tue 30 Jun 09

*hoping* this is a "last ditch close" a sharp business practise whereby you pull out of the deal at the last minute siting some kind of glitch - the vendor then gets panicky, drops his price, and bingo - you save £1m or so - TL in his text to that bloke mentioned a compromise.....

FaceonaBus says...
4:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote:
True Saints Fan, Eastleigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Little things please little minds. If it wasnt in your name I would question which club you support. Heres a psychological one for you.......... I pity you, now why do you think I am saying that you clever little so and so????????? Try to keep calm about having another response !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very clever... you're not as stupid as you first appear.. Although I'm not sure why you're saying that... enlighten me
I am as stupid as I first appear. You seem to be the one trying to show everyone how clever you are with your psychological experiment. So, why do YOU think I am saying that?? (reverse psychology I think) come on show us how much you have learned from this experiment. I am actually interested now. Now thats inherent I think you will find?

InThatNumber says...
4:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Conspiracy Theory!!! The Pinnacle group and in particular Michael Fialka were to be funded by a Jewish consortium in London. Well there is a huge Jewish community in and around the Tottenham area, well we all know who manages Tottenham Fc don't we.....! Has Harry Redknapp outshone his previous antics at St Mary's and buried this club once and for all???

Fawleysajollygoodfellow says...
4:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The Football League just can't let this happen. It would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. The impact will be massive on reputation for them and all sorts of negative issues.

Saint_Nick says...
4:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

St.Stubb wrote:
The FL want to deduct another 7 points for unpaid wages and a further 10 points for not being in the league when the fixtures were published. As SFC will start with minus 27 points effectievly relegating them why would anyone pay the £15m needed to pay debt and Mr Fry for a club that will be another year further away from Premiership and any chance of profit. Until that time it would be a money pit. We can blame that old Tory McWhinney for this he will not rest until every league club has a maximum attendance of 5000 and were in Conference the year before.

This is the biggest fiasco in football history.
If the rumours are true that the FL want to deduct further points for our inability to pay wages surely the fact that we cant sell season tickets goes some way towards the reason for this! Coupled with the fact we have no support from the bank in close season. Most football clubs would struggle if this was the case.

old owl says...
4:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Pinnacle group should be ashamed of themselves and MT is not blameless.I have seen this comming weeks ago and Im a dumb girlie. Liquidators must be dumber than me. Where is the honesty gone in this world. Am sad for Southampton, lets just hope if there is a Saints football saviour out there that they actually have the passion and honesty to bring Saints back to life.

Anonymous,, says...
4:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ShakeyWiffles wrote:
Anonymous,, wrote:
So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?
Yes I can, the thing to do is not act bothered. Which I'm not, and not to reply, which I wont :)
How many times is that you've "not" replied now?

Glenn(Leeds) says...
4:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote: All the passion and anger on here. I think its about time some of this gets directed to the FL. It would be nice to hear their reasoning for doing this to ANY club
im up for drafting a generic email all the fans can send also thought bout doing an online petition to get winnie th poop sacked! gotta b alot of angry luton, leeds and rotherham fans thatd sign it mayb even the odd cherries fan was gonna try and get Fry to sign it (we cud ask Fats Jackson!?)
Great Idea,I have loads of mates that are Leeds fans and they would sign it gladly if it meant shafting the FL and that T#££^R Malwhinney.

ShakeyWiffles says...
4:23pm Tue 30 Jun 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
ShakeyWiffles wrote:
Anonymous,, wrote: So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?
Yes I can, the thing to do is not act bothered. Which I'm not, and not to reply, which I wont :)
Apart from this post of course
just one more post to reply to True Saints Fan, I thought I put the word now at the end. Sorry for the confusion.

Haha how apt is the SW? only-rise

Bright Sparkk says...
4:25pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Bring in the ABBA backed Swiss group now!

This is our Waterloo!

Fawleysajollygoodfellow says...
4:26pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Bright Sparkk wrote:
Bring in the ABBA backed Swiss group now!

This is our Waterloo!
Can you hear the drums......

season ticket holder says...
4:27pm Tue 30 Jun 09

A new statement from Mark Fry just posted on Saints website . "We expect to tie up a deal very soon "I don't know how many times I have heard that.
He must have the same statement prepared and just change the date
COYR

Charismatic Andrew says...
4:28pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I told you a few days ago the Pinnacle bid was a scam.

Michael Fialka is an anagram of "I Call Him A Fake".

It's just a shame that MLT has been taken in and dragged into this.

As for Mark Fry - he's looked out of his depth from the beginning. It wouldn't surprise me if he's just a YTS trainee or on work experience.

azpect says...
4:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I find it amazing that a club as big as saints with the assets it has will not find a buyer.
£15mil is not a massive amount of money in today's terms, credit crunch or not.

And considering the assets you will be receiving for that amount, even if we had to sell the training ground, how much would a developer pay for land in that area? The 8000/10000 season ticket sales revenue? Selling Surman 1.5mil? The stadium cost £32mil alone didn’t it?

If I could I would be breaking down Fry’s door to buy the club.

JimmyLondon says...
4:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Anonymous,, wrote:
So you can identify trolls, but have no idea how to handle them?
shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

tamara1983 says...
4:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

ROMAN37 wrote:
Why are so many bloggers blaming Pinnacle ? They have put in huge time & effort to make this work (not excluding money). Why do so many of you assume it is their fault ? Your criticisms might be better directed towards The Football League
but according to the echo leon crouch put up the money for exclusivity

Ocean Village resident says...
4:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

azpect wrote:
I find it amazing that a club as big as saints with the assets it has will not find a buyer. £15mil is not a massive amount of money in today's terms, credit crunch or not. And considering the assets you will be receiving for that amount, even if we had to sell the training ground, how much would a developer pay for land in that area? The 8000/10000 season ticket sales revenue? Selling Surman 1.5mil? The stadium cost £32mil alone didn’t it? If I could I would be breaking down Fry’s door to buy the club.
Oh dear. Are you aware of how the economy works?

Charismatic Andrew says...
4:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Fawleysajollygoodfel
low
wrote:
Bright Sparkk wrote: Bring in the ABBA backed Swiss group now! This is our Waterloo!
Can you hear the drums......
Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Manager After Midnight)

Jason D says...
4:40pm Tue 30 Jun 09

It's time we turned our anger on the league – I think it will become clear that it is them, not Pinnacle or Fry that is the main villain here.

I'm sure it's easy for them as they carry out one of their many executive roles to attend a quick meeting after their holidays to decide they are going to dish out further points penalties to an already sinking ship.

As Matty says on Sky Sports, the investors couldn't commit money because they've been told they are going to get another points deduction for not paying players on time or something similar with no right to appeal.

Can't say I blame new owners not wanting a club on -25 points, meaning a wasted season ahead and probable League Two football after that.

The League sucks I'm afraid as Luton will know only too well.

As more and more clubs struggle they will surely have to change the system so it reflects the economic situation, but sadly it looks like being too late for us.

tonkerthomas says...
4:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

RED BULL IS AUSTRIAN, NOT SWISS!

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Red_Bull

Saintan says...
4:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Glenn(Leeds) wrote:
Saintan wrote:
FaceonaBus wrote: All the passion and anger on here. I think its about time some of this gets directed to the FL. It would be nice to hear their reasoning for doing this to ANY club
im up for drafting a generic email all the fans can send also thought bout doing an online petition to get winnie th poop sacked! gotta b alot of angry luton, leeds and rotherham fans thatd sign it mayb even the odd cherries fan was gonna try and get Fry to sign it (we cud ask Fats Jackson!?)
Great Idea,I have loads of mates that are Leeds fans and they would sign it gladly if it meant shafting the FL and that T#££^R Malwhinney.
on the case now!

will hopefully have it done at a reasonable hour tnite

will also try and post a link on here for the online petition

COYR

and

COYW

cmg says...
4:47pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Matthew being a true southampton supporter detatched himself from the pinnicle group when he realised their intention was never going to become a reality. Who ever comes in would themselves do a lot of good by involving Matthew.This is my opinion and I would like to say a big thank you to Matthew for trying.

Saintan says...
4:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

season ticket holder wrote:
A new statement from Mark Fry just posted on Saints website . "We expect to tie up a deal very soon "I don't know how many times I have heard that.
He must have the same statement prepared and just change the date
COYR
I hoping he's doing it to save on his massive wage bill!

The one thing I'd say about Fry's statement is that when I spoke to them they said a new bidder could walk into pinnacles contract and conclude the deal very quickly

whether it'd be quick enough to stave off more points deductions is another matter

alane61 says...
4:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

There you go - Tycoon Tony Lynam and the the Barnet mum's boy have had their 15 minutes of fame so can now get back to being small time nobodies. Meanwhile, the clock now ticks away against serious business people to try and do something to save the club. And as for Mr Fry (Begbies Traynor - back of the high street) well - he's managed to get some nice newspaper photo's of himself along the way too - Oh for an administrator who could spot a plank in a suit.

We await!

mrtim1982 says...
4:51pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I'd back this cause I began a group on facebook a while back to gauge interest and propose a few ways how it could work.

http://www.facebook.
com/profile.php?id=1
650521805#/group.php
?gid=93397228168&ref
=ts

InThatNumber says...
5:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Having a friend that works at Eastleigh fc they have said they are not expecting a Saints team to turn up for the freindly on Saturday. Instead they will probably field two teams from eastleigh fc

ShakeyWiffles says...
5:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mrtim1982 wrote:
I'd back this cause I began a group on facebook a while back to gauge interest and propose a few ways how it could work.

http://www.facebook.

com/profile.php?id=1

650521805#/group.php

?gid=93397228168&amp
;ref
=ts
I'm a member of that group already lol!

Saintan says...
5:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

from "on the cross" website:

"All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints."

I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls

at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it

Dazzz says...
5:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I have just driven past SMS and saw Bubbles the Chimp.... apparently he has just inherited a few bob and wants to invest it here.

fleet11 says...
5:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09

seems to me that this is total ****,the 10 point's is an excuse for a cop out. I bet his mum wouldn't let him have the money!!what a bunch of losers roll on the ashe's !!

John Wade says...
5:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

southampton FC the feedr club for Portsmouth FC !

John Wade says...
5:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

southampton FC the feeder club for Portsmouth FC !

ShakeyWiffles says...
5:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
from "on the cross" website:

"All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints."

I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls

at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
I hope that's true! If so, I don't think I'd mind that name too much. It does sound very American though. Next thing you know we'll be calling it soccer!

JDT says...
5:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

The Football League are the ones that make the rules that make it impossible to run the clubs and balance the books IE Transfer window. They got it wrong and know it but will not change because it suites the big clubs. Let’s make a breakaway league just like F1 was going to!

peachy1 says...
5:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Propercynic wrote:
Get the Swiss in NOW.
OMG.

I cannot believe you so called "Saints Fans"

IF the club dies this week i hope you look back over the last year and ask yourself what more you could have done like TURN UP at St Mary's instead of leaning back on the Rupert excuse if the club dies this week Its down to the fans who didn't suppot them when they needed you most all you did was moan about people who were working the socks off trying to save the club you never even turned out for Saints aid you never even put a pound in the buckets outside st mary's I saw fans from other clubs putting money in I saw an Everton fan on the TV appealing for football fans from the city to support the Local club

WHERE WERE YOU

You never got behind the team.

I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club.

as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off.

AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME

saint_luke says...
5:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

peachy1 wrote:
Propercynic wrote: Get the Swiss in NOW.
OMG. I cannot believe you so called "Saints Fans" IF the club dies this week i hope you look back over the last year and ask yourself what more you could have done like TURN UP at St Mary's instead of leaning back on the Rupert excuse if the club dies this week Its down to the fans who didn't suppot them when they needed you most all you did was moan about people who were working the socks off trying to save the club you never even turned out for Saints aid you never even put a pound in the buckets outside st mary's I saw fans from other clubs putting money in I saw an Everton fan on the TV appealing for football fans from the city to support the Local club WHERE WERE YOU You never got behind the team. I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME
Im 1 of the hardcore 12,000 and if the club does go friday we should carry it on in the non-league playing local born player wanting to win. Work our way up with our 12,000 hardcore followers!!! COYR

Observer 2 says...
5:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

1. Pinnicle hoped to bully FL into accepting their demands. This was always a non starter - why some believed that would happen shows their level of knowledge and understanding is litle more than an emotional blind faith.

That blind faith and emotion probably wasted 4/5 weeks to move forward resolution.


2. This delay now leads the way forward for further penalities.

a) Additional points deduction as well the 10 already (at best) - re-forming a new club at conference level the worst.

b)Players walking out - very few will once the contract is broken through non payment want to stay to suffer 2 seasons in league 1 or conference football.

3. This is unless a further consortium are prepared to throw money at it and risking all they invest without due diligence being undertaken.

For what its worth my view is that the takeover will not be completed in the short term to avoid all the above.




alane61 says...
5:18pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club.

as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off.

AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME


That'll work - no wonder we're up to our necks in it. When the rosy mist disappears you'll realise it wouldn't have mattered a jot whether you were there or not. The club is broke - thats B R O K E - and hopefully, someone with money and a brain will save us

rey619 says...
5:23pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This is absolutely rubbish, everytime we all get our hopes up something like this happens, so i wonder what this swiss grup are like than, we will find that they will pull out this evening.

alane61 says...
5:26pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Observer 2 wrote:
1. Pinnicle hoped to bully FL into accepting their demands. This was always a non starter - why some believed that would happen shows their level of knowledge and understanding is litle more than an emotional blind faith. That blind faith and emotion probably wasted 4/5 weeks to move forward resolution. 2. This delay now leads the way forward for further penalities. a) Additional points deduction as well the 10 already (at best) - re-forming a new club at conference level the worst. b)Players walking out - very few will once the contract is broken through non payment want to stay to suffer 2 seasons in league 1 or conference football. 3. This is unless a further consortium are prepared to throw money at it and risking all they invest without due diligence being undertaken. For what its worth my view is that the takeover will not be completed in the short term to avoid all the above.
Sound comments - and a shame that Matt fronted this fiasco. His desire to save the club could actually be the thing that finally brings it down.

winchestersaint says...
5:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I'm really surprised by the amount of people talking down MLT here. For Christ's sake the man devoted his entire playing career to us and has always been loyal. I am sure he had good intentions at heart; we ought not be so fickle, lest we reveal ourselves to be narrow minded and vindicative. If he has be duped, then so have many of us who believed Pinnacle where the ones. They are obviously lot and may we all learn a lesson.
Kepp it cool, lets see what happens over the next few days before looking for scapegoats

TottonScrutineer says...
5:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

What an absolute shambles.Sorry Matt but you were conned This pinnacle group could not find the £500,000 for May's wages dear old Len put up the money and he's been conned too.The fact is according to the Echo everyone is jumping ship to secure their own futures and you can't blame them so now with a weakened squad and the 10 point deduction we are not as good a prospect as we were.Thanks(sarcasti
cally)to all who "love" club former directors Wilde Lowe etc with the exception of Leon for showing your true colours!!The Administators etc should have known from the that the Football League would not change so all this is a convenient get out because Pinnacle could raise the cash in the first place but wre living in dream land.Perhaps it will turn out a fortunate outcome as this Pinnacle bunch have proved themselves a load of novices

saint tom says...
5:33pm Tue 30 Jun 09

told ya pg are wan**rs. look on the bright side peps they are now out off our way. sorry matt but your a **** as if you could ever be a realistic chairman you must be thick. TRUTH IS someone has come in with big money and p.g / jackson have realised they are not up to it. keep your chins up fans coz at long last there IS light at the end of the tunnel coyr........ saints till i die

LazyLymo says...
5:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Shocked & stunned. Feel sorry for MLT.He would not have hoodwinked us intentionly.Obviousl
yhe was. Lets hear the real truth about what has happened. Knew y'day it was over when sold McGoldrick. Fry needs to STAND UP NOW and spell out to all fans EVERY available option - however mad it may seem- to save the club. We mustn't give up hope.

peachy1 says...
5:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

winchestersaint wrote:
I'm really surprised by the amount of people talking down MLT here. For Christ's sake the man devoted his entire playing career to us and has always been loyal. I am sure he had good intentions at heart; we ought not be so fickle, lest we reveal ourselves to be narrow minded and vindicative. If he has be duped, then so have many of us who believed Pinnacle where the ones. They are obviously lot and may we all learn a lesson. Kepp it cool, lets see what happens over the next few days before looking for scapegoats
My Sources tell me that Mark Fry has dropped the price by about 4M this has re-inetrested an original party that were keen at the beginning of the fiaso but Pinnacles bid pushed the price up.

TottonScrutineer says...
5:36pm Tue 30 Jun 09

alane61 wrote:
I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME That'll work - no wonder we're up to our necks in it. When the rosy mist disappears you'll realise it wouldn't have mattered a jot whether you were there or not. The club is broke - thats B R O K E - and hopefully, someone with money and a brain will save us
That's the problem all the directors and investors associated with greedy and NO BRAIN

Allotmentman66 says...
5:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Good,
Im glad they have withdrawn,
After all they did wasting a lot of precious and valuable time with there dilly-dallying and dragging there feet, by doing this they forced the club to sale our best players, to pay staffs and players wages, (I hope Pinnacle feel very proud of themselves)

So all I can say stop the transfer of our players and get the SWISS GROUP on-board and save our club.

Mark Fry should be able to claim compensation from the Pinnacle Group (con merchants)for all the time wasted.

threeezzy says...
5:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09

alane61 wrote:
I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME That'll work - no wonder we're up to our necks in it. When the rosy mist disappears you'll realise it wouldn't have mattered a jot whether you were there or not. The club is broke - thats B R O K E - and hopefully, someone with money and a brain will save us
Who do you think you are? Comments like that don't help. perhaps you should give a mention who watched them go down in 74 and supported them back to the top so the younger supporters could watch them in the premership for those years. and then desert them when they went down and followed the glory hunters by changing their allegiances to the like of man utd,chelsea,arsenal and liverpool.just have a walk around town and you'll see them wearing their shirts.

Mac78 says...
5:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Saintan wrote:
from "on the cross" website: "All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints." I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
Someone with some positivity left in them - I salute you! You've cheered me up a little. I would take any name they cared to suggest should this fairytale ending be true. COYR

peachy1 says...
5:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

You have actaully confirmed what i just said they should hang thier heads in shame you should read beofre you shoot your gun typical saints fan i see

peachy1 says...
6:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Mac78 wrote:
Saintan wrote: from "on the cross" website: "All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints." I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
Someone with some positivity left in them - I salute you! You've cheered me up a little. I would take any name they cared to suggest should this fairytale ending be true. COYR
Surely this is a load of Bull :)

Northamboy says...
6:08pm Tue 30 Jun 09

IF and I say IF Saints are finished can I call on the Echo to do something for the fans.

Could you make sure Ted Bates statue does not fall into disrepair and if possible move it to the area of the Dell.


Allotmentman66 says...
6:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I have supported this club for 58 years, they might try and change our name to Southampton RedBull, But to me they are called and always will be called the SAINTS,and always will be the SAINTS

hoskins75 says...
6:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

well i want my fu**ing brick back!!!!

mastershot100 says...
6:19pm Tue 30 Jun 09

peachy1 wrote:
Mac78 wrote:
Saintan wrote: from "on the cross" website: "All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints." I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
Someone with some positivity left in them - I salute you! You've cheered me up a little. I would take any name they cared to suggest should this fairytale ending be true. COYR
Surely this is a load of Bull :)
Football league clubs are not allowed to have a commerical name in their title.
Remember Road Sea Southampton,well they were only allowed to be called R S Southampton.

SRH74 says...
6:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Meridien News just stated that the "two" leading groups for the takeover have pulled out....surely not right...anyone know whether the Swiss or other potential buyers have pulled out too?

InThatNumber says...
6:26pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mastershot100 wrote:
peachy1 wrote:
Mac78 wrote:
Saintan wrote: from "on the cross" website: "All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints." I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
Someone with some positivity left in them - I salute you! You've cheered me up a little. I would take any name they cared to suggest should this fairytale ending be true. COYR
Surely this is a load of Bull :)
Football league clubs are not allowed to have a commerical name in their title. Remember Road Sea Southampton,well they were only allowed to be called R S Southampton.
At least when you google Red Bull something comes up unlike Mr Faker, i suspect the ending will however be the same!!!

SaintPaul says...
6:27pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If Mawhinney and his Football League pals continue to obstruct any serious buyer then there will be no SFC, as I see it the FL will not allow any new bidder to contest the 10 point deduction and also want the option to impose further penalty points if they see fit. If I was a buyer I could accept the -10 points, saints would have a fighting chance, but should there be the prospect of further deductions that could easily lead to the club's demise then why would I want to invest in a business venture that had already faile before it got off the starting blocks? You've only got to look at what happened to the likes of Leeds and Luton, this is a stark warning to any prospective buyers and unitl the FL start to consider what is fair and reasonable SFC will not be sold and that we be the end of it.

So let's not balme Pinnacle, MLT, Fialka or Fry, it's the FL that need to be held accountable here, the reason MLT will not discuss these issues is because is likely to put off other buyers and he doesn't want that.

InThatNumber says...
6:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

InThatNumber wrote:
mastershot100 wrote:
peachy1 wrote:
Mac78 wrote:
Saintan wrote: from "on the cross" website: "All hope hangs on the shoulders of a Austrian consortium, thought to be none other than Red bull. The sports company are worth £8bil and have a string of successful sports teams and endorse very successful sports stars, such as Sebastian Vettel and Kevin Pietersen, however, the deal could agree that the clubs name can be changed, as all red bull owned sports teams have 'Red Bull' in their names, the proposed name is rumoured to be 'Southampton Red Bulls'. This may cause uproar in the City as it is against tradition and with all due respect, sounds very American. Mark Fry is expected to make a statement this evening; however there are rumours going around that Pinnacle stepped aside due to Le Tissier saying that the Austrian consortium can provide a better future for the Saints." I'd be happy to Southampton Red Bulls at least we'd still be alive - might have to lay off the Red Bull tho - i hear they power their F1 cars on it
Someone with some positivity left in them - I salute you! You've cheered me up a little. I would take any name they cared to suggest should this fairytale ending be true. COYR
Surely this is a load of Bull :)
Football league clubs are not allowed to have a commerical name in their title. Remember Road Sea Southampton,well they were only allowed to be called R S Southampton.
At least when you google Red Bull something comes up unlike Mr Faker, i suspect the ending will however be the same!!!
I'd quite happily settle for the Red Bull Stadium....!
Sw lose-wage: how ironic

SRH74 says...
6:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

SRH74 wrote:
Meridien News just stated that the "two" leading groups for the takeover have pulled out....surely not right...anyone know whether the Swiss or other potential buyers have pulled out too?
Sorry should read the article before listening to that skate Fred on the TV. Should of known the echo would of got it right:)

Over to the swiss then, surely the price will be reduced in an attempt to save the club!...
If not it could be a very dark Friday!

loadcee says...
6:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

TottonScrutineer wrote:
alane61 wrote: I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME That'll work - no wonder we're up to our necks in it. When the rosy mist disappears you'll realise it wouldn't have mattered a jot whether you were there or not. The club is broke - thats B R O K E - and hopefully, someone with money and a brain will save us
That's the problem all the directors and investors associated with greedy and NO BRAIN
You lot who kept Lowe in Power for so long are the problem. Why did you have to get a Season Ticket you could go to any game you liked and pay on the gate . I hated Lowe but paid for games on the day . Season Tickets gave them the money up front and helped keep the Lowe regime running. Lowe lovers should hang there heads in Shame.

mentazm1974 says...
6:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09

RL= TOSSER
MW= BACKSTABBER
LC= NICE BUT DIM
MLT= SORRY TO SAY HAD HIS EYES SHUT, BUT OFF THE HOOK CAUSE HE IS A LEGEND. FACT!!!
PINNACLE= WAN*ERS
FRY= COULD'NT SELL BEER AT HALF PRICE!!!
RIP SFC, IN MY MIND FOREVER.
MIRACLE NEEDED!
COME ON RED BULL!!!!!

mentazm1974 says...
6:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

loadcee wrote:
TottonScrutineer wrote:
alane61 wrote: I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME That'll work - no wonder we're up to our necks in it. When the rosy mist disappears you'll realise it wouldn't have mattered a jot whether you were there or not. The club is broke - thats B R O K E - and hopefully, someone with money and a brain will save us
That's the problem all the directors and investors associated with greedy and NO BRAIN
You lot who kept Lowe in Power for so long are the problem. Why did you have to get a Season Ticket you could go to any game you liked and pay on the gate . I hated Lowe but paid for games on the day . Season Tickets gave them the money up front and helped keep the Lowe regime running. Lowe lovers should hang there heads in Shame.
why get season tickets? some of us work or work more than 8hrs a day and cant get over in the week to get tickets or to be bothered to Q on a saturday, thats why!! just because i got a season ticketg does not make me a lowe lover. think outside the box a bit before posting!

Stafford Saint says...
6:54pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Could I make a comment about pronunciation and plosive consonants?

We need thousands of fans to suddenly turn up from abroad. A good chant needs to end with the right kind of sound. I feel a new language is needed. "We want Rupert IN" just doesn't sound right in english, but in another language it might be fine!
What do you think?

LeopardsSpots says...
6:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

sw - Huge-firm


Red Bull then?

LeopardsSpots says...
6:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

sw - Huge-firm


Red Bull then?

Barney123 says...
7:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I think it's time people got off Fry's back, because he was only doing his job to find a buyer of the club, and there were several interested parties, such as Pinnacle who to on all accounts chose not to buy. Did they have the money or not? To be honest, who cares. We need to move on and see who else may be interested.

At the same time, it's Fry's job to get as much money as he can from his creditors, nothing more, so he gets more money breaking the club up, that is his job, irrespective as to how popular his decision may be. The same thing was with Zavvi and Woolworths - the administrators came in and did the best for the people who are owed money.

Hopefully the Red Bull consortium will move on now in a more pro-active way.

pompey-fan-in-havant says...
7:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

as you southampton fans will know,pompey have been in this position a few times. don't give up hope, something will happen before the deadline comes. give it a few years and you will be back in the premier league, hopefully pompey will still be there too so we can get back to the 'friendly rivalry' and have a couple of fixtures to actually really look forward to. hope you survive as the alternative is eastleigh, not quite the same.

Gary Clark says...
7:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I do not feel that Pinnicle are to blame for this debacle, the Football League are mostly to blame for manipulating and bribing the Pinnicle consortium because they know Southampton Football Club has a very good case? The idiots that have harrased and abused Michael Fialka should hold there heads in shame there a disgrace. Mark Fry should also take some blame for giving Pinnicle extensions beyond there exclusivity agreement which now leaves the club with a race against time to now find a buyer and sell the club, Rupert Lowe well and truly shafted SFC good and proper!

Badja says...
7:11pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Im so gutted! Hope that there is just one more twist on this rollercoaster! Yes i blame Fry, Pinnacle should definitely be booked for time-wasting, and Fialka was a joke from the start, but can we please lay off Matty. The man is, and will always be, an absolute legend, who, as most of us were, was sucked in by these chancers!

Can i also just be the first to say how disgusting it is, that the FA let something like this happen to a founding member of the premier league, when another founding member, Man city, have this week offered Eto a reported £250,000 A F*****G WEEK!! However,In 1999, Man city were in league one after a brief fall from grace, so i suppose we should keep the faith til the fat bloke (with the big nose) sings!!!!

SFC Scott says...
7:14pm Tue 30 Jun 09

pompey-fan-in-havant wrote:
as you southampton fans will know,pompey have been in this position a few times. don't give up hope, something will happen before the deadline comes. give it a few years and you will be back in the premier league, hopefully pompey will still be there too so we can get back to the 'friendly rivalry' and have a couple of fixtures to actually really look forward to. hope you survive as the alternative is eastleigh, not quite the same.
At last a true fans view. Yes it is a 'friendly rivalry' which can cause both sets of fans to take things too far at times. But to celebrate a rival club going out of business is just wrong. Thanks for being a true fan of football and not letting the rivalry get in the way of common sense. Hopefully Saints will survive and one day play Pompey again.

pawnsacrifice says...
7:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

pompey-fan-in-havant wrote:
as you southampton fans will know,pompey have been in this position a few times. don't give up hope, something will happen before the deadline comes. give it a few years and you will be back in the premier league, hopefully pompey will still be there too so we can get back to the 'friendly rivalry' and have a couple of fixtures to actually really look forward to. hope you survive as the alternative is eastleigh, not quite the same.
Well done that man...all Skates are not gloating tossers obviously

SheTigerInExile says...
7:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This just isn't funny any more. Me and 'im indoors are Hull City fans - living in the Southampton area. We've been watching this story with interest over the last few weeks/months and we are truly sorry what is happening to your club. Any self respecting footy fan would never want to see any club go out of business. It hasn't happened yet so keep the faith. I know it's easy for us to say that sitting in the sidelines as a spectator - but don't forget, it's not that long ago that we were there too, within a gnats whisker of going out of business. The fat lady is gargling but she ain't singing yet! Hang on in there guys. We're keeping everything crossed for you, and I'm sure the majority of the footy nation across the country is doing the same.

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
7:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I've heard it's Kinder buying Saints, don't know if there's any truth in it but it would seem fitting!

Heard the PG deal collapsed as a result of the amount of bacon's in Southampton.

Observer 2 says...
7:39pm Tue 30 Jun 09

SaintPaul wrote:
If Mawhinney and his Football League pals continue to obstruct any serious buyer then there will be no SFC, as I see it the FL will not allow any new bidder to contest the 10 point deduction and also want the option to impose further penalty points if they see fit. If I was a buyer I could accept the -10 points, saints would have a fighting chance, but should there be the prospect of further deductions that could easily lead to the club's demise then why would I want to invest in a business venture that had already faile before it got off the starting blocks? You've only got to look at what happened to the likes of Leeds and Luton, this is a stark warning to any prospective buyers and unitl the FL start to consider what is fair and reasonable SFC will not be sold and that we be the end of it.

So let's not balme Pinnacle, MLT, Fialka or Fry, it's the FL that need to be held accountable here, the reason MLT will not discuss these issues is because is likely to put off other buyers and he doesn't want that.
Saint Paul - the problem is not the Football League or its officials you need to look closer to home and accept that.

Southampton fc are part of a members club and have to abide by those rules to be a member.

At the moment they are in default and as laid down there is a principle of penalties for transgressing those rules. To maintain that status and remain a member those punishments will apply to retain equality pari passu amongst the other members.

The situation would be the same for any participating club/member until a rule change deems otherwise.

No special rules for those that have dropped quickly from the premiership or are in distress or tried to work on financial engineering to say "its not us Guv."

Ask any Luton fan who have dropped from League 1 to conference in two seasons.

Be grateful you are not a conference club already, their rules are much more draconian in terms of penalty.

Fair and reasonable applies equally to all clubs making up the FL ..to bend the rules and allow one club an advantage just because they got THEMSELVES into a problem is not the way forward.

No the stumbling block will be the present liabilities and commitments of the club anyone investing will demand a return on their money.

Yes that quick return may be mitigated by the penalties but anyone investing upfront will know that already.

If you want to ignore those issues then the best outcome would be to go into receivership - start again in the conference with no debt attaching and with sound management - something that has been sadly lacking and fan suport ( may be that was lacking too ) will serve over time to see the club back at a level it deserves.






meme53 says...
7:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09

grrrrrrrrr
somone buy the club for gods sake!
sw=away-rest

meme53 says...
7:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09

grrrrrrrrr
somone buy the club for gods sake!
sw=away-rest

mentazm1974 says...
7:59pm Tue 30 Jun 09

pompey-fan-in-havant wrote:
as you southampton fans will know,pompey have been in this position a few times. don't give up hope, something will happen before the deadline comes. give it a few years and you will be back in the premier league, hopefully pompey will still be there too so we can get back to the 'friendly rivalry' and have a couple of fixtures to actually really look forward to. hope you survive as the alternative is eastleigh, not quite the same.
fair play mate, i take back that the blue half of hampshire are all inbreds with 3 eyes and fins
COYR

Linesman says...
8:02pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Observer 2 wrote:
SaintPaul wrote: If Mawhinney and his Football League pals continue to obstruct any serious buyer then there will be no SFC, as I see it the FL will not allow any new bidder to contest the 10 point deduction and also want the option to impose further penalty points if they see fit. If I was a buyer I could accept the -10 points, saints would have a fighting chance, but should there be the prospect of further deductions that could easily lead to the club's demise then why would I want to invest in a business venture that had already faile before it got off the starting blocks? You've only got to look at what happened to the likes of Leeds and Luton, this is a stark warning to any prospective buyers and unitl the FL start to consider what is fair and reasonable SFC will not be sold and that we be the end of it. So let's not balme Pinnacle, MLT, Fialka or Fry, it's the FL that need to be held accountable here, the reason MLT will not discuss these issues is because is likely to put off other buyers and he doesn't want that.
Saint Paul - the problem is not the Football League or its officials you need to look closer to home and accept that. Southampton fc are part of a members club and have to abide by those rules to be a member. At the moment they are in default and as laid down there is a principle of penalties for transgressing those rules. To maintain that status and remain a member those punishments will apply to retain equality pari passu amongst the other members. The situation would be the same for any participating club/member until a rule change deems otherwise. No special rules for those that have dropped quickly from the premiership or are in distress or tried to work on financial engineering to say "its not us Guv." Ask any Luton fan who have dropped from League 1 to conference in two seasons. Be grateful you are not a conference club already, their rules are much more draconian in terms of penalty. Fair and reasonable applies equally to all clubs making up the FL ..to bend the rules and allow one club an advantage just because they got THEMSELVES into a problem is not the way forward. No the stumbling block will be the present liabilities and commitments of the club anyone investing will demand a return on their money. Yes that quick return may be mitigated by the penalties but anyone investing upfront will know that already. If you want to ignore those issues then the best outcome would be to go into receivership - start again in the conference with no debt attaching and with sound management - something that has been sadly lacking and fan suport ( may be that was lacking too ) will serve over time to see the club back at a level it deserves.
You are quite correct observer, the football league have rules, and if you want to join then you have to accept them!

Another person being blamed is Mr Fox the administrator.
His position is something like an Estate Agent. He is there to facilitate the sale of the football club. The difference being, he is trying to get the best price so that those owed money can get 'so many pence in the pound' of what they are owed.


windyboy says...
8:04pm Tue 30 Jun 09

SheTigerInExile wrote:
This just isn't funny any more. Me and 'im indoors are Hull City fans - living in the Southampton area. We've been watching this story with interest over the last few weeks/months and we are truly sorry what is happening to your club. Any self respecting footy fan would never want to see any club go out of business. It hasn't happened yet so keep the faith. I know it's easy for us to say that sitting in the sidelines as a spectator - but don't forget, it's not that long ago that we were there too, within a gnats whisker of going out of business. The fat lady is gargling but she ain't singing yet! Hang on in there guys. We're keeping everything crossed for you, and I'm sure the majority of the footy nation across the country is doing the same.
Yes never thought we would see the day when the Tigers were in the top flight. Extra hard for them in a City dominated by rugby. As an ex Hull lad i remember the days of Boothferry Park, not a bad ground in its day just poor attendances, its great to see them turn it around after all these years.
Just hope the Saints can rise again from this shambles.

colmeister says...
8:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Gary Clark wrote:
I do not feel that Pinnicle are to blame for this debacle, the Football League are mostly to blame for manipulating and bribing the Pinnicle consortium because they know Southampton Football Club has a very good case? The idiots that have harrased and abused Michael Fialka should hold there heads in shame there a disgrace. Mark Fry should also take some blame for giving Pinnicle extensions beyond there exclusivity agreement which now leaves the club with a race against time to now find a buyer and sell the club, Rupert Lowe well and truly shafted SFC good and proper!
sorry but the league are an easy target gary. yes take overs are complicated but when you really want to buy the club, see it move forward AND you have the funding to do it, you CAN make it happen. Also, you can investigate the rights or wrongs of the leagues' stance on our administration during the three weeks and you can even take issue with them through the courts after you've taken over IF you really want to make it happen.

To do this however, you would need to be GENUINLY interested in the long term future of Saints, the people / staff/ fans/ players/ ground, the whole lot.

Pinnacle have, regardless of whether you believe they've got access to any more funds than some crips and a toffee apple ( and i dont ), been proven NOT to want it enough to make it happen because they like most consortiums were thinking, last minute, cheap buy, quick promotion(s), sell on.

We will eventually all discover that there were no 'other obstacles' and that the 10 point argument ON ITS OWN did for their interest.

Maybe we have gone to far with our abuse but we were as fans already a very wounded animal and MLT, Fry, Fialka and DEFINATELY Lynam have been stupid enough to kick that wounded animal right in the balls so tough **** if they get bitten for their trouble....

One more thing, 'sorry' might not have gone amiss in their statements?

Damreds says...
8:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!

MrMarc says...
8:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Open message to all gloating Pompey supports. A few years ago you were within days of going bust I know I was at Uni in Birmingham I want to watch Aston Villa play Everton on a Wednesday night and Portsmouth FC were outside Villa Park asking for donations to keep your great famous club from going to wall. Naturally i told the Portsmouth begger to Fcuk off I wouldnt p155 up his ar53 if his kidneys were on fire.

mrmenontour says...
8:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Right you didnt want to listen to me before when i told you as far back as 3 weeks ago that PINNACLE will NOT be having your club well its time to listen again.The SWISS consortium does NOT exist. Ignore me at your peril. YOU ARE DOOMED im afraid.

mentazm1974 says...
8:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Damreds wrote:
Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck
COYR

SaintHarry says...
9:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

And im afraid i may have to agree, we havent heard a thing from the so called swiss consortium as of yet. Still think there could be some kind of twist to come though

saint-barnard says...
9:03pm Tue 30 Jun 09

peachy1 wrote:
Propercynic wrote: Get the Swiss in NOW.
OMG. I cannot believe you so called "Saints Fans" IF the club dies this week i hope you look back over the last year and ask yourself what more you could have done like TURN UP at St Mary's instead of leaning back on the Rupert excuse if the club dies this week Its down to the fans who didn't suppot them when they needed you most all you did was moan about people who were working the socks off trying to save the club you never even turned out for Saints aid you never even put a pound in the buckets outside st mary's I saw fans from other clubs putting money in I saw an Everton fan on the TV appealing for football fans from the city to support the Local club WHERE WERE YOU You never got behind the team. I beleive that the hardcore 12,000 fans that stayed true to their team should be rewarded by the new owners and all you PART TIME supporters who attended the sheffield united game and the manchester united cup game should be BANNED your a disgrace and you have to be the worst supporters in the country you don't deserve a club. as for the 12,000 restart your own club go into the conference and start again your hard work will pay off. AS FOR THE REST OF YOU HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME
how can you say that it's just down to fans, fair play to the 12,000. However, when there are alot of southampton fans who aren't the most well off of chaps, and when faced with sticking money in rupert lowe's pocket and being skint, or not going and having some cash for the week, i had to most weeks opt for a bit of cash, I still went as and when I can, but I not as often as I had. How can you say that it's down to us fans! you amaze me with your sincere lack of business knowledge... countless millions brought in since 1996 when r*pert l*we took over, countless heaps of p!ss poor managers & players brought in along the way, look at burley, he was on a hefty packet a week, and when he left, what did he leave behind? a bunch of well over the hill players on very high pay packets for their age and distinct lack of ability! this is one example of WHY Southampton Football Club is on the brink of extinction! Please do a little bit of homework before you bother to post on here because completely uneducated posts such as yours really are a waste of space and just really tick me off! AND for some of them 12,000 fans who did stick through (be a small amount of them may I add), they utterly dissapoint me! Saints v Charlton for an example, i had a ticket in the kingsland silent aisle, we went 1-0 up, I jumped up and celebrated, got kicked by a roughly 50 year old man (yes, a saints fan) for standing up.... I just ignored it, happy with the fact that we had just scored, we then immediatly gave away a penalty, which super kelv saved, I jumped up (bloody happy with it as it was a massive game for us), got an even bigger kick by the so called saints fan, I reacted, as it hurt, in a somewhat raised tone but with no raised arms or anything, asking what on earth he thought he was doing, at this point a steward who was sat right in front of me and could see what had happened, asked me to leave, i tryed to stand my ground as I felt that I was in no wrong, a clan of orange jackets surrounded me and I was escorted from the ground... IF PEACHY1... you think that people like that should be rewarded, then sh1t me. And there are a suprising amount of saints 'fans' who are much the same, and is what I blame for the terrible atmosphere anywhere in the ground other than the northam end, THEM are the ones who should be rewarded, each and every time I have been in the northam end, I am so proud to be a fellow fan with them, they are the people who are the heartbeat of the club, the 4000 odd who constantly smash out their lungs in the aid of getting behind the red & white army! I would love to have my own seat there, week in, week out, but i cant afford that. Does that mean I aint a fan? No. I tend to do more away days than home now, and again, they are the ones that make me proud, not the other half or so of your so called 'hardcore'! Nottingham forest away, singing 'oh when the saints' really slow, 2000 saints fans at a game that meant nothing in the league, already down to league 1, that brought tears to my eyes knowing that it could be the last, tell me that aint passion!? The downfall of a big club does not happen because a few thousand fans dont turn up for a year or so... any adult with a reasonable brain cell in tact should know that. Excuse my rant but that post has narked me. Any further posts in the future, please think about what you are saying and whether you can back it up.

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:06pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
At least ours aren't already at other clubs like your bunch who were off today and yesterday.
League 2 here you come, what good is that ground and traing facilities when you won't be earning enough to maintain them aye?
All thet you list and still nobody wants you, says it all.
Oh can't deal with my sister at the mo, to busy in a threesome with your mum and sister, that's what drinking all day does to you!

Damreds says...
9:07pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote:
Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck
COYR
I'm a cherrys fan actually
doesnt the name damREDS give it away.
And we're doing just fine so im gonna carry on slating your 'club' if you can count it as one

Oh when the saints go wessex league!

saint-barnard says...
9:13pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Damreds wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
I'm a cherrys fan actually doesnt the name damREDS give it away. And we're doing just fine so im gonna carry on slating your 'club' if you can count it as one Oh when the saints go wessex league!
what a sad life you lead. I expect it from skates, thought better of your end, maybe not hey.

MrMarc says...
9:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Damreds wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
I'm a cherrys fan actually doesnt the name damREDS give it away. And we're doing just fine so im gonna carry on slating your 'club' if you can count it as one Oh when the saints go wessex league!
Damreds? If you were a cherries fan it would be demreds as in Them Reds. Back to school small boy

Dazzler79 says...
9:16pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Damreds wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
I'm a cherrys fan actually doesnt the name damREDS give it away. And we're doing just fine so im gonna carry on slating your 'club' if you can count it as one Oh when the saints go wessex league!
F u c k off you complete tool.
before i hunt you down.

holmesy1995 says...
9:21pm Tue 30 Jun 09

this is much more than a game. people spend their savings on season tickets and travel to away games. people sit infront of the radio or SSN listening for results on saturday. lots of us use it as an escape from day to day life. so, before you say its just a game, think again. RIP SFC.

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:21pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Dazzler79 wrote:
Damreds wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
I'm a cherrys fan actually doesnt the name damREDS give it away. And we're doing just fine so im gonna carry on slating your 'club' if you can count it as one Oh when the saints go wessex league!
F u c k off you complete tool. before i hunt you down.
You should channel that energy into hunting down a buyer.
Who are you anyway? The Matrix?
Muppet
Keys of the great City, (a proper City with history), of Portsmouth To Matt Le Tiss this year methinks.

Damreds says...
9:24pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Just a bit of banter, ok!
sorry if i upset you but im sure you would give it if things were the other way round

mentazm1974 says...
9:25pm Tue 30 Jun 09

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear
wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
At least ours aren't already at other clubs like your bunch who were off today and yesterday. League 2 here you come, what good is that ground and traing facilities when you won't be earning enough to maintain them aye? All thet you list and still nobody wants you, says it all. Oh can't deal with my sister at the mo, to busy in a threesome with your mum and sister, that's what drinking all day does to you!
its called survival! i never missed a match last year i think it was a good bit of business except davis? £2.5m for 2 HOME GROWN lads from OUR acadamy. about having a good stadium? think out side the box son? oh and you would need to be on the p*ss all day to sh*g my mum as she is 86. Sicko

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:30pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mentazm1974 wrote:
IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
Damreds wrote: Du Du Du Shame About The Scummers!
hows your take over going? hows your new proposed stadium going? got your own training facilities yet? are you still in £65m + in debt? are 12 of your regular players out of contract on july 1st. Look at your own club before you slate ours you thick fcuk! you better tend to your sister she wanting c*ck COYR
At least ours aren't already at other clubs like your bunch who were off today and yesterday. League 2 here you come, what good is that ground and traing facilities when you won't be earning enough to maintain them aye? All thet you list and still nobody wants you, says it all. Oh can't deal with my sister at the mo, to busy in a threesome with your mum and sister, that's what drinking all day does to you!
its called survival! i never missed a match last year i think it was a good bit of business except davis? £2.5m for 2 HOME GROWN lads from OUR acadamy. about having a good stadium? think out side the box son? oh and you would need to be on the p*ss all day to sh*g my mum as she is 86. Sicko
No mate I wouldn't have sex with an OAP no matter how drunk I was, but each to there own, your secrets safe with us.
That's not your mum, or have they never told you. The women you think is your sister is your mum. And let me tell you she's dirrrty.

HOOF says...
9:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Hope you go under to$$pots.
Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!

MrMarc says...
9:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09

HOOF wrote:
Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:37pm Tue 30 Jun 09

MrMarc wrote:
HOOF wrote: Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut
Why don't you go play with one of your rich backers, oh whoops....

MrMarc says...
9:42pm Tue 30 Jun 09

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear
wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
HOOF wrote: Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut
Why don't you go play with one of your rich backers, oh whoops....
Cant havent you seen the news? our backers dropped out just after lunch see BBC sport & SSN. hahahaha my security word was good-head

InThatNumber says...
9:43pm Tue 30 Jun 09

HOOF wrote:
Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Good luck with the new season, you'll need it with Scott Loach between the sticks... See ya next season

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:45pm Tue 30 Jun 09

MrMarc wrote:
IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
HOOF wrote: Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut
Why don't you go play with one of your rich backers, oh whoops....
Cant havent you seen the news? our backers dropped out just after lunch see BBC sport & SSN. hahahaha my security word was good-head
I said rich backers

MrMarc says...
9:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear
wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
HOOF wrote: Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut
Why don't you go play with one of your rich backers, oh whoops....
Cant havent you seen the news? our backers dropped out just after lunch see BBC sport & SSN. hahahaha my security word was good-head
I said rich backers
They may have been rich they may have not been. We will never know now.

HOOF says...
9:49pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Oh it really shouldn't happen to such a massive club!!
Wheres Rupert Lowe when you need him?
Cant stop laughing!!

mentazm1974 says...
9:55pm Tue 30 Jun 09

HOOF wrote:
Oh it really shouldn't happen to such a massive club!! Wheres Rupert Lowe when you need him? Cant stop laughing!!
saints a massive club? you must be a right mug to belive it! and im a saints fan. watford wont be far behind!

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
9:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09

MrMarc wrote:
IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:
MrMarc wrote:
HOOF wrote: Hope you go under to$$pots. Im a Watford fan,when we played you in fa cup semi you all gave it the large about how big a club you were.Not anymore to$$ers,go rot with Luton!!!
Go play with Elton John stupid Knut
Why don't you go play with one of your rich backers, oh whoops....
Cant havent you seen the news? our backers dropped out just after lunch see BBC sport & SSN. hahahaha my security word was good-head
I said rich backers
They may have been rich they may have not been. We will never know now.
I'll think you'll find that if you still believe they may have been rich you stand alone in a very cruel, unforgiving world. The asking price, alongside you're facilities you morons are so happt to brag about would have been nothing to a rich backer with your clubs interest at heart (the sales pitch).
But hey, also think of this, if they were the prefered choice what chance of the group being Red Bull.

HOOF says...
10:00pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Still laughing!!

Security word
mass-fall (very apt)

IanMurraywearswomensunderwear says...
10:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09

mentazm1974 wrote:
HOOF wrote: Oh it really shouldn't happen to such a massive club!! Wheres Rupert Lowe when you need him? Cant stop laughing!!
saints a massive club? you must be a right mug to belive it! and im a saints fan. watford wont be far behind!
It's called sarcasm, it's waht most of your fellow fans believe and often spout about.
I think you should apolgise to Hoof as it's you who have just revealed yourself to be a mug.
Unsurprised at your slowness though, after all you all missed that you were being taken for mugs for the last five weeks, including capped 8 times ha ha, big deal, Le Tossier

stuartjebbitt says...
10:12pm Tue 30 Jun 09

football used to be a game, not a business. When the premiership started, money and greed took over and destroyed the soul of that game.
Southampton couldn't keep up with the bigger clubs and have paid the price.
When you consider a Man U player has been sold for £80 million and the whole of Live Aid only raised £50 million - it's Obscene - actually it's downright evil.

mentazm1974 says...
10:15pm Tue 30 Jun 09

talking of slow if you read some of my posts over the last 3 weeks you would read posts like pinnacle = chancers ect. FACT!!! who's the mug? read b4 you write. SH*T LICKER

Meribelsaint says...
10:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear
wrote:
mentazm1974 wrote:
HOOF wrote: Oh it really shouldn't happen to such a massive club!! Wheres Rupert Lowe when you need him? Cant stop laughing!!
saints a massive club? you must be a right mug to belive it! and im a saints fan. watford wont be far behind!
It's called sarcasm, it's waht most of your fellow fans believe and often spout about. I think you should apolgise to Hoof as it's you who have just revealed yourself to be a mug. Unsurprised at your slowness though, after all you all missed that you were being taken for mugs for the last five weeks, including capped 8 times ha ha, big deal, Le Tossier
Le Tossier. You're very witty, well done. But before you gloat too much, you should make sure your own house is in order.

Observer 2 says...
10:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09

If anyone still believes the organisations are not linked and therefore the 10 point (or more) is not approprite to Southampton FC then I suggest they go to this link and read fully.
http://www.investega

te.co.uk/Article.asp

x?id=200610020700377

554J

It doesn't take a forensic accountant to work out that they are.

That should resolve that particular myth expounded by the masses

Stubs says...
10:36pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Most of the players are leaving or being sold off. Looks like they will have to sell the stadium for development. What a shambles.

calmdown says...
10:42pm Tue 30 Jun 09

feel sorry for the ordinary staff at the club.

If the so called loyal fans had gone to all the matches through thick and thin all this wouldnt of happened. You all blame everyone)anyone else but its all your own fault.

sw - dead club

workshy_1 says...
10:46pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I'd settle for the club continuing to exist now, am resigned to having no team left, Kelvin is off, Surman too, Euell will no doubt go as will BWP. As we've already brought the kids into the side and they have bags of CCC experience they will probably be snapped up too.
But I really would settle for that if the club continued...

Am gutted, it should never have come to this, Fry should have been more assertive, why let them over run the 21 days and then not complete without any penalty? I don't blame MLT, he did what he could, I blame Fry for letting Pinnacle run the process.
Fear it is all too late and our club is going to disappear - with my first child on the way I can't believe I may have no football club to take them to

COYR although it may all be over tomorrow

holmesy1995 says...
10:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09

I am proud to call my self one of those "hardcore 12000" who stuck by the club through thick and thin. now, it maybe that i have walked out of the turnstiles at st marys for the final time. i missed 1 game last year due to a holiday, some of you protesters who stayed away should have done the same. if the saints are to die so will a piece of me, however, i am for ever a saint, till the day i depart this earth. I hope your proud rupert, you smarmy sod. it seems as though i have sung oh when the saints for a final time. RIP Saints, we had good times.

workshy_1 says...
10:56pm Tue 30 Jun 09

holmesy1995 wrote:
I am proud to call my self one of those "hardcore 12000" who stuck by the club through thick and thin. now, it maybe that i have walked out of the turnstiles at st marys for the final time. i missed 1 game last year due to a holiday, some of you protesters who stayed away should have done the same. if the saints are to die so will a piece of me, however, i am for ever a saint, till the day i depart this earth. I hope your proud rupert, you smarmy sod. it seems as though i have sung oh when the saints for a final time. RIP Saints, we had good times.
Well put. I hate Rupert for what he did but I bought my season ticket and went to the games. I love this club and can't believe it may not exist next week...

redbaronofstmarys@googlemail.com says...
11:14pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Remember fellow BARONS its not over until the fat lady sings.

redbaronofstmarys@googlemail.com says...
11:14pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Remember fellow BARONS its not over until the fat lady sings.

redbaronofstmarys@googlemail.com says...
11:22pm Tue 30 Jun 09

This is redbaron here chin up and remember its not over until the fat lady sings

Mac78 says...
11:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09

workshy_1 wrote:
holmesy1995 wrote: I am proud to call my self one of those "hardcore 12000" who stuck by the club through thick and thin. now, it maybe that i have walked out of the turnstiles at st marys for the final time. i missed 1 game last year due to a holiday, some of you protesters who stayed away should have done the same. if the saints are to die so will a piece of me, however, i am for ever a saint, till the day i depart this earth. I hope your proud rupert, you smarmy sod. it seems as though i have sung oh when the saints for a final time. RIP Saints, we had good times.
Well put. I hate Rupert for what he did but I bought my season ticket and went to the games. I love this club and can't believe it may not exist next week...
Same here, but there's still hope...I still think things will somehow come good. And to the person who said all the true fans are in the Northam end, I'm sorry you had such a bad experience in the Kingsland but just like you say a season ticket purchase doesn't exclusively make you a true fan, nor does the fact you can shout louder than anyone else - I personally sit in Kingsland with my old dad cos there's no way he could hack the standing up and the noise in Northam, he's gone to nearly every game since 1975, does that not make him a true fan rather than which stand we sit in being the decider?? please can we stop the petty bickering between the Saints fans? we need to maintain a united front. COYR

BertCatt says...
12:01am Wed 1 Jul 09

Sorry to remind everyone, but I said my 'source' told me there would be no takeover . Nor will there be.

Thanks for memory Saints, I will now go into mourning, and cry for days. Football? I'm not interested in any club but Saints, when they go so does my interest.

southgirl says...
9:11am Wed 1 Jul 09

anyone what to buy a bit of worthless ground its in st marys and a rubbish team used to play their it is vacant and ready to be used for something worthwhile.

mlt is no saint......

John Wade says...
9:12am Wed 1 Jul 09

oh when the saints, oh when the saints, oh when the saints go wessex league
hahahhahahahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahaa
hahahahahaha

randre says...
11:42am Wed 1 Jul 09

I am as gutted as anybody about this, but please don't blame Matt Le Tissier. His hear was in the right place and he is desperate to help Saints. Any fool can see how gutted he was yesterday and inside I imagine he feels let down by people who had promised to back him. How can any real Saints fan have a go at Matt, after all he has done for this club. You should be ashamed of yourselves. He has been loyal for his whole career and beyond to this club and there are idiots on here who are now tarnishing his name for his good intentions. He was never the money nehind Pinnacle and ultimately Pinnacle let him down. I think the blame lays at Pinnacle & the Football League, not Le Tissier. Please remember what he has done for us and imagine what he is going through now.

randre says...
11:46am Wed 1 Jul 09

I am as gutted as anybody about this, but please don't blame Matt Le Tissier. His heart was in the right place and he is desperate to help Saints. Any fool can see how gutted he was yesterday and inside I imagine he feels let down by people who had promised to back him. How can any real Saints fan have a go at Matt, after all he has done for this club? You should be ashamed of yourselves. He has been loyal for his whole career and beyond to this club and there are idiots on here who are now tarnishing his name for his good intentions. He was never the money behind Pinnacle and ultimately Pinnacle let him down. I think the blame lays at Pinnacle & the Football League, not Le Tissier. Please remember what he has done for us and imagine what he is going through now.

chunkybutt says...
12:49am Thu 2 Jul 09

i would just like to to all my fans, thanks for the extra couple of grand in my bank for all the bull**** i have spouted for pinnacle over the the last couple of weeks.
but you know how it is times are hard i need the cash, i knew you would all cough up to save your beloved sfc! but if you had taken more notice of me when i played for your c**p club you would have seen that i rarely did any work, i just hung around the other teams end waiting for an opportunity.
as i have with this so called take over, MUGS.

chunkybutt says...
1:06am Thu 2 Jul 09

GOOD NEWS!
status quo are going to play at st marys!
they are going to play a 3 hr gig, but the only song they will sing is! down down deeper and down.
all proceeds to the MLT i got you good foundation.

chunkybutt says...
1:15am Thu 2 Jul 09

oh when the dinloes go marching in, oh when the dinloes go marching in, ime so thick i want i want to be in that number, oh what the hell have i got in.!!!! thanks for your money MLT.

Barcelona Saint says...
10:38am Thu 2 Jul 09

I wanna know how come with all this saga going on due to the mess we're in, how can RL get off scot free??

SW: hike-from

that's exactly what he's doing.

Looney Cleo says...
11:01pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Can anyone explain why the two A**holes (Wilde and Lowe) that put the club in this position, pay back some of their earnings back into the clubs kitty. I don't believe that these two lost money when the shares went pop. Leon Crouch, however should respected for what he done for the club before and the shares crash. The Man is a HERO!

Looney Cleo says...
11:01pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Can anyone explain why the two A**holes (Wilde and Lowe) that put the club in this position, pay back some of their earnings back into the clubs kitty. I don't believe that these two lost money when the shares went pop. Leon Crouch, however should respected for what he done for the club before and the shares crash. The Man is a HERO!

JIMBO_49 says...
2:45pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Is this our new owners
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