Fans want Portsmouth fan painting removed from Southampton Art Gallery

Daily Echo: The face of John Westwood The face of John Westwood

HE is banned from St Mary’s for his disgusting behaviour including urinating on seats.

However, a portrait of Pompey’s best known fan is hanging in Southampton’s art gallery.

Click HERE to view the big picture... if you dare

Angry Saints fans are calling for the painting of the infamous John Portsmouth Football Club Westwood to be removed.

The larger than life character is banned from St Mary’s after being caught on CCTV urinating on seats in the away end and being thrown out of a derby match in 2003 for persistently refusing to sit down when ordered to by stewards.

Dressed in his trademark blue and white colours, and showing some of his 60 Portsmouth tattoos, the 2m painting has angered Saints fans who have warned it should be removed before someone vandalises it.

The portrait by Portsmouth artist Karl Rudziak is one of 52 paintings as part of the BP Portrait Awards exhibition.

The City Council has defended its inclusion saying it is a part of “the most prestigious portrait competition in the world”.

However, Mike O’Callaghan, chairman of the Saints Independent Supporters Association said there is outrage among Saints fans.

“I won’t be surprised if someone risks criminal prosecution and vandalises it,” he said.

“It should be taken down or better yet, taken down the pub and put on a dartboard.”

Dozens of other Saints fans yesterday vented their anger on the Daily Echo website calling for the council to get it out of the gallery.

A spokesman for Southampton City Council said: “The BP Portrait Award 2009 is the most prestigious portrait competition in the world, highlighting the best in contemporary portrait painting, and Southampton is proud to welcome this exhibition to the city for the first time in the award’s 30-year history.

“Some people may see Karl Rudziak’s portrait of Portsmouth FC’s most recognisable fan as confrontational but art should be about freedom of expression – it should also be engaging and galleries should spark debate.

“Of course, there has been a long-standing and intense rivalry between Southampton and Portsmouth football fans but the two cities also have a great deal in the way of shared history, heritage and culture.

The spokesman added that, although no extra measures have been taken, security staff at the gallery were aware of the controversy and would be extra vigilant around the portrait.

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10:00am Fri 2 Oct 09

More Sense Than Money!! says...

Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?
Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year? More Sense Than Money!!

10:02am Fri 2 Oct 09

Shoong says...

Not looking happy John...

Wonder why..?
Not looking happy John... Wonder why..? Shoong

10:04am Fri 2 Oct 09

Le Tissier's Nose says...

Who cares! This is yesterday's news....and even then I didn't care!! He's a moron!
Who cares! This is yesterday's news....and even then I didn't care!! He's a moron! Le Tissier's Nose

10:18am Fri 2 Oct 09

Simon Cowell says...

The gallery is having a "Spot The Arse" competiton and I do believe we have found the winner!!!
The gallery is having a "Spot The Arse" competiton and I do believe we have found the winner!!! Simon Cowell

10:21am Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

More Sense Than Money!! wrote:
Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?
About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits.
The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few.
Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire".
[quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?[/p][/quote]About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire". Ken Hutchinson

10:37am Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect.
Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect. Ken Hutchinson

10:50am Fri 2 Oct 09

Lone Ranger says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect.
Blimey....what side of the bed did you get out of this morning??
.
Where does it say he represents the majority of Saints fans.
.
SW tiny soft says it all really

[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect.[/p][/quote]Blimey....what side of the bed did you get out of this morning?? . Where does it say he represents the majority of Saints fans. . SW tiny soft says it all really Lone Ranger

11:02am Fri 2 Oct 09

owen_thesaints says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
More Sense Than Money!! wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?
About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire".
And your concept of Art is better than anyone elses because.........

I dont agree with many Arts Council funded projects. Arts costs me, a tax payer, more than I would wish to pay, for instance I would choose not to fund ballet or classical music and direct the money towards other more populist areas perhaps...does this make me a knuckle dragger?
[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?[/p][/quote]About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire". [/p][/quote]And your concept of Art is better than anyone elses because......... I dont agree with many Arts Council funded projects. Arts costs me, a tax payer, more than I would wish to pay, for instance I would choose not to fund ballet or classical music and direct the money towards other more populist areas perhaps...does this make me a knuckle dragger? owen_thesaints

11:10am Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

If you are one of the few posters on this subject who is able to see beyond the subject matter and appreciate the art then no, I wouldn't put you in the same bracket as the other morons. Enlighten me how you as an individual/tax payer fund Ballet or Classical Music?
If you are one of the few posters on this subject who is able to see beyond the subject matter and appreciate the art then no, I wouldn't put you in the same bracket as the other morons. Enlighten me how you as an individual/tax payer fund Ballet or Classical Music? Ken Hutchinson

11:53am Fri 2 Oct 09

Denver says...

I am with Ken. This is art, not some affront to Saints fans. Clearly it is good art too as it has sparked a lot of attention and comments.
I am with Ken. This is art, not some affront to Saints fans. Clearly it is good art too as it has sparked a lot of attention and comments. Denver

12:02pm Fri 2 Oct 09

mr.southampton says...

Typical Echo article. Should portraits only be painted of moral, upstanding citizens. I wonder how many of the aristocrats immortalised in portraiture led wholesome lives free of any hint of taint.

Looks like the Echo in giving people who are inciting a criminal act a soap-box . Well done Echo.

Typical Echo article. Should portraits only be painted of moral, upstanding citizens. I wonder how many of the aristocrats immortalised in portraiture led wholesome lives free of any hint of taint. Looks like the Echo in giving people who are inciting a criminal act a soap-box . Well done Echo. mr.southampton

12:30pm Fri 2 Oct 09

owen_thesaints says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
If you are one of the few posters on this subject who is able to see beyond the subject matter and appreciate the art then no, I wouldn't put you in the same bracket as the other morons. Enlighten me how you as an individual/tax payer fund Ballet or Classical Music?
I pay my taxes, some of which may go in grants to the arts, etc, etc, and as I stated if i had my choice on how it was spent I would spend differently (across the board, not just arts related expenditure).

If you fund Classical music or Ballet then why not Rock or Rap to the same degree. If it's a minority thing and Classical music can't sustain itself then I'm sorry but I don't wish to fund it, I would prefer my money spent elsewhere.

Not sure why you need enlightening, we all pay into the same one pot...



[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: If you are one of the few posters on this subject who is able to see beyond the subject matter and appreciate the art then no, I wouldn't put you in the same bracket as the other morons. Enlighten me how you as an individual/tax payer fund Ballet or Classical Music?[/p][/quote]I pay my taxes, some of which may go in grants to the arts, etc, etc, and as I stated if i had my choice on how it was spent I would spend differently (across the board, not just arts related expenditure). If you fund Classical music or Ballet then why not Rock or Rap to the same degree. If it's a minority thing and Classical music can't sustain itself then I'm sorry but I don't wish to fund it, I would prefer my money spent elsewhere. Not sure why you need enlightening, we all pay into the same one pot... owen_thesaints

12:53pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

Owen_thesaints - If you did your sums on how much tax you as an individual pay and equate it to what you as an individual receive in health & public services across your lifetime and your offspring as minors, I doubt if you will ever contribute a penny to any budding Nureyev or Joshua Bell....
Owen_thesaints - If you did your sums on how much tax you as an individual pay and equate it to what you as an individual receive in health & public services across your lifetime and your offspring as minors, I doubt if you will ever contribute a penny to any budding Nureyev or Joshua Bell.... Ken Hutchinson

12:58pm Fri 2 Oct 09

D.a.v.e says...

Same story as yesterday just different headline......
Same story as yesterday just different headline...... D.a.v.e

1:00pm Fri 2 Oct 09

gillyman says...

at least i know where the urinal is in the gallery now
at least i know where the urinal is in the gallery now gillyman

1:16pm Fri 2 Oct 09

More Sense Than Money!! says...

What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!!

I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself!
What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself! More Sense Than Money!!

1:22pm Fri 2 Oct 09

echoidiot says...

totally agree with you ken on all your posts, i was going to make myself look a fool by asking who this man supports! but some idiot already did that.
totally agree with you ken on all your posts, i was going to make myself look a fool by asking who this man supports! but some idiot already did that. echoidiot

1:31pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

More Sense Than Money!! wrote:
What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself!
I'm sure the same questions could be asked of you - although I think I already have the answer to the behaving like a jerk bit....
[quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself![/p][/quote]I'm sure the same questions could be asked of you - although I think I already have the answer to the behaving like a jerk bit.... Ken Hutchinson

2:14pm Fri 2 Oct 09

owen_thesaints says...

clausentum wrote:
Ken Hutchinson wrote: Owen_thesaints - If you did your sums on how much tax you as an individual pay and equate it to what you as an individual receive in health & public services across your lifetime and your offspring as minors, I doubt if you will ever contribute a penny to any budding Nureyev or Joshua Bell....
You overlook the obvious, he cannot add up. 2 + 2 is beyond him.
Sorry to disappoint, but I am an Accountant...and probably could calculate what I spend and receive if I so chose!

Ken, we all contribute, the money doesn't grow magically or appear out of thin air. Any government spending is financed by us all.

I have never stated that I personally fund the Arts, we all do. All I have stated is that were it down to personal choice I would choose to fund different things than perhaps you would. Each to their own!

You chose to assume that the concept of art is lost on all but the select!
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: Owen_thesaints - If you did your sums on how much tax you as an individual pay and equate it to what you as an individual receive in health & public services across your lifetime and your offspring as minors, I doubt if you will ever contribute a penny to any budding Nureyev or Joshua Bell....[/p][/quote]You overlook the obvious, he cannot add up. 2 + 2 is beyond him.[/p][/quote]Sorry to disappoint, but I am an Accountant...and probably could calculate what I spend and receive if I so chose! Ken, we all contribute, the money doesn't grow magically or appear out of thin air. Any government spending is financed by us all. I have never stated that I personally fund the Arts, we all do. All I have stated is that were it down to personal choice I would choose to fund different things than perhaps you would. Each to their own! You chose to assume that the concept of art is lost on all but the select! owen_thesaints

3:29pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Propercynic says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
More Sense Than Money!! wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?
About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire".
There's nothing like a good bit of snobbery to fan the flames is there? It's a hideous picture although, granted, it is a well-executed piece of art.
I am a football fan and, yes, I hate that picture - it's nothing to do with me being a Saints fan: John PFC Westwood is not the most attractive human being on the planet, him being a Portsmouth fan is immaterial. That does not make me a knuckle-dragger it just makes me someone who does not like a particular picture. It doesn't make me a hater of art either - I am more interested in the sciences although I love wildlife art.

As an aside, I am wondering if Southampton was chosen as one of the venues for this particular piece in the full knowledge that it would cause a bit of a storm? Nothing like even a tiny bit of controversy to promote an artist is there?
[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?[/p][/quote]About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire". [/p][/quote]There's nothing like a good bit of snobbery to fan the flames is there? It's a hideous picture although, granted, it is a well-executed piece of art. I am a football fan and, yes, I hate that picture - it's nothing to do with me being a Saints fan: John PFC Westwood is not the most attractive human being on the planet, him being a Portsmouth fan is immaterial. That does not make me a knuckle-dragger it just makes me someone who does not like a particular picture. It doesn't make me a hater of art either - I am more interested in the sciences although I love wildlife art. As an aside, I am wondering if Southampton was chosen as one of the venues for this particular piece in the full knowledge that it would cause a bit of a storm? Nothing like even a tiny bit of controversy to promote an artist is there? Propercynic

3:36pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

Owen_thesaints - I haven't assumed that the concept of art is lost on the majority of individuals who have posted on this topic - it is clearly evident.
A fact supported somewhat by St.DaveH......read the article, the portrait is part of an exhibition - it isn't owned by and therefore cannot be sold by Southampton City Council.
Idiots like this would be better off tackling a book before commenting on anything remotely cultural.
Owen_thesaints - I haven't assumed that the concept of art is lost on the majority of individuals who have posted on this topic - it is clearly evident. A fact supported somewhat by St.DaveH......read the article, the portrait is part of an exhibition - it isn't owned by and therefore cannot be sold by Southampton City Council. Idiots like this would be better off tackling a book before commenting on anything remotely cultural. Ken Hutchinson

3:42pm Fri 2 Oct 09

owen_thesaints says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
Owen_thesaints - I haven't assumed that the concept of art is lost on the majority of individuals who have posted on this topic - it is clearly evident. A fact supported somewhat by St.DaveH......read the article, the portrait is part of an exhibition - it isn't owned by and therefore cannot be sold by Southampton City Council. Idiots like this would be better off tackling a book before commenting on anything remotely cultural.
Fair comment, though surely more constructive to point out his mistake than apply labels to people!

Anyway enough of this...has HR left THFC yet under a cloud?
[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: Owen_thesaints - I haven't assumed that the concept of art is lost on the majority of individuals who have posted on this topic - it is clearly evident. A fact supported somewhat by St.DaveH......read the article, the portrait is part of an exhibition - it isn't owned by and therefore cannot be sold by Southampton City Council. Idiots like this would be better off tackling a book before commenting on anything remotely cultural.[/p][/quote]Fair comment, though surely more constructive to point out his mistake than apply labels to people! Anyway enough of this...has HR left THFC yet under a cloud? owen_thesaints

4:09pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Ken Hutchinson says...

Funnily enough I received a text this morning telling me to expect an announcement from White Hart Lane stating that he is taking a year out due to "family reasons". A "deal" with the FA as opposed to an official admission of financial irregularity/wrongdo
ing perhaps?
Funnily enough I received a text this morning telling me to expect an announcement from White Hart Lane stating that he is taking a year out due to "family reasons". A "deal" with the FA as opposed to an official admission of financial irregularity/wrongdo ing perhaps? Ken Hutchinson

4:13pm Fri 2 Oct 09

freemantlegirl2 says...

Propercynic wrote:
Ken Hutchinson wrote:
More Sense Than Money!! wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?
About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire".
There's nothing like a good bit of snobbery to fan the flames is there? It's a hideous picture although, granted, it is a well-executed piece of art.
I am a football fan and, yes, I hate that picture - it's nothing to do with me being a Saints fan: John PFC Westwood is not the most attractive human being on the planet, him being a Portsmouth fan is immaterial. That does not make me a knuckle-dragger it just makes me someone who does not like a particular picture. It doesn't make me a hater of art either - I am more interested in the sciences although I love wildlife art.

As an aside, I am wondering if Southampton was chosen as one of the venues for this particular piece in the full knowledge that it would cause a bit of a storm? Nothing like even a tiny bit of controversy to promote an artist is there?
I'm with you proper cynic. I'm loathe to criticise his looks because we as a society are obsessed with 'looks' but it's his behaviour I object to - it does epitomise everything that's bad about football and there is so much that is good! :) having said that it is very detailed and looks like a photograph and I can see why the artist chose him as a subject (although as I said yesterday it's a wonder he could sit still for that long the way he leaps about at matches and on TV ) you're right this has been done very deliberately and look how much exposure the exhibition, gallery and artist are getting! as they say, any publicity is good publicity. Wonder if the security guards are saints fans .... LOL. (It's a small world that guy in the video with the blonde hair and glasses, I was behind him in Somerfield's petrol station this afternoon!)
[quote][p][bold]Propercynic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: Urgh... I wonder how much money this filthy man costs us tax payers each year?[/p][/quote]About the same as you probably unless you are on benefits. The concept of Art is obviously lost on all of you knuckle-draggers - no wonder Football Fans as a whole are frowned upon because of the idiotic mindset of the few. Well done Echo for another attempt at "stoking the fire". [/p][/quote]There's nothing like a good bit of snobbery to fan the flames is there? It's a hideous picture although, granted, it is a well-executed piece of art. I am a football fan and, yes, I hate that picture - it's nothing to do with me being a Saints fan: John PFC Westwood is not the most attractive human being on the planet, him being a Portsmouth fan is immaterial. That does not make me a knuckle-dragger it just makes me someone who does not like a particular picture. It doesn't make me a hater of art either - I am more interested in the sciences although I love wildlife art. As an aside, I am wondering if Southampton was chosen as one of the venues for this particular piece in the full knowledge that it would cause a bit of a storm? Nothing like even a tiny bit of controversy to promote an artist is there?[/p][/quote]I'm with you proper cynic. I'm loathe to criticise his looks because we as a society are obsessed with 'looks' but it's his behaviour I object to - it does epitomise everything that's bad about football and there is so much that is good! :) having said that it is very detailed and looks like a photograph and I can see why the artist chose him as a subject (although as I said yesterday it's a wonder he could sit still for that long the way he leaps about at matches and on TV ) you're right this has been done very deliberately and look how much exposure the exhibition, gallery and artist are getting! as they say, any publicity is good publicity. Wonder if the security guards are saints fans .... LOL. (It's a small world that guy in the video with the blonde hair and glasses, I was behind him in Somerfield's petrol station this afternoon!) freemantlegirl2

4:15pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

More Sense Than Money!! wrote:
What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself!
The answer to your question is Yes. He does work!
Check out the Petersfield Book Shop on the internet!
Westwood is an antiquarian bookseller.
Rather an appropriate saying is, 'do not judge a book by its cover'!
[quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself![/p][/quote]The answer to your question is Yes. He does work! Check out the Petersfield Book Shop on the internet! Westwood is an antiquarian bookseller. Rather an appropriate saying is, 'do not judge a book by its cover'! Linesman

4:51pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect.
If you read the article, he never claimed to represent the majority, and would appear to only represent his association.

As I doubt very much whether many people know what he looks like, perhaps Mike O'Callaghan, the Chairman of the Saints Independent Supporters Association should have his portrait painted, to be hung in a Portsmouth gallery. I wonder whether anyone there would recognise him.
If not him, why not that popular Saints Fans representative, the ever popular Nick Illingsworth?
If they are not acceptable, perhaps Richard Chorley could find time to sit for a portrait now that his is no longer helping to run the City Council. Perhaps he could be pictured at the wheel of his taxi!

[quote][p][bold]Ken Hutchinson[/bold] wrote: Once again a quote appears from another prat with a title (Chairman of SISA) as if he represents the view of the majority - he doesn't. He's a pathetic little figure whose ego far outweighs his intellect.[/p][/quote]If you read the article, he never claimed to represent the majority, and would appear to only represent his association. As I doubt very much whether many people know what he looks like, perhaps Mike O'Callaghan, the Chairman of the Saints Independent Supporters Association should have his portrait painted, to be hung in a Portsmouth gallery. I wonder whether anyone there would recognise him. If not him, why not that popular Saints Fans representative, the ever popular Nick Illingsworth? If they are not acceptable, perhaps Richard Chorley could find time to sit for a portrait now that his is no longer helping to run the City Council. Perhaps he could be pictured at the wheel of his taxi! Linesman

4:53pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Denzil says...

Our council are such idiots, this wouldn't happen anywhere else.
Our council are such idiots, this wouldn't happen anywhere else. Denzil

4:59pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

What have Romsey council done that makes them such idiots?

Romsey does not come under the control of Southampton City Council, even a idiot should know that!

What have Romsey council done that makes them such idiots? Romsey does not come under the control of Southampton City Council, even a idiot should know that! Linesman

5:03pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Cyber-Fug says...


we cant all be wrong about this moron... even some of his despise the oik !

Just remove it before war breaks out :o)



we cant all be wrong about this moron... even some of his despise the oik ! Just remove it before war breaks out :o) Cyber-Fug

5:51pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Captain Swing says...

More Sense Than Money!! wrote:
What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself!
Mr Westwood runs a busy, prosperous and well established shop in Petersfield, dealing in rare books. You can't see the tatoos when he's in his business atire.
He'd probably be the first person to advise you not the judge a book from its cover.
[quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: What I meant, you over rated breath of air is... does that filthy man work? Does he behave like a complete jerk all the time? Let's face it, if he behaves like that in a football ground, what is to stop him behaving like it anywhere else he fancies? Thus costing the tax payer!! I don't give a clap about art galleries or football. And yes, both DO cost tax payers! Perhaps, before you are so rude again, you should maybe take a syringe of air and use it on yourself![/p][/quote]Mr Westwood runs a busy, prosperous and well established shop in Petersfield, dealing in rare books. You can't see the tatoos when he's in his business atire. He'd probably be the first person to advise you not the judge a book from its cover. Captain Swing

5:56pm Fri 2 Oct 09

echoidiot says...

thank god for captain swing! someone who actually checks out things BEFORE he post load of drivel.
sw/free-word! lol
thank god for captain swing! someone who actually checks out things BEFORE he post load of drivel. sw/free-word! lol echoidiot

7:18pm Fri 2 Oct 09

More Sense Than Money!! says...

His behavoir is what is filthy, not his looks!!
His behavoir is what is filthy, not his looks!! More Sense Than Money!!

7:21pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

and your spelling is not so hot either!
and your spelling is not so hot either! Linesman

7:59pm Fri 2 Oct 09

clausentum says...

More Sense Than Money!! wrote:
His behavoir is what is filthy, not his looks!!
Knuckle-dragger
[quote][p][bold]More Sense Than Money!![/bold] wrote: His behavoir is what is filthy, not his looks!! [/p][/quote]Knuckle-dragger clausentum

7:59pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

echoidiot wrote:
i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just!
You are correct.
Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline.
If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially.
It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general.
[quote][p][bold]echoidiot[/bold] wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just![/p][/quote]You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general. Linesman

8:03pm Fri 2 Oct 09

clausentum says...

Linesman wrote:
echoidiot wrote:
i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just!
You are correct.
Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline.
If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially.
It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general.
Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echoidiot[/bold] wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just![/p][/quote]You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general. [/p][/quote]Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match. clausentum

8:43pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Dooody says...

I went to the gallery today. What an offensive picture that is to have in the Southampton City art gallery. As far as I am concerned the city art director might as well be sticking two fingers up to every Saints fan and Southampton person in the city letting this picture of him and his blue rags in the gallery. I am now convinced the art world is so far out of touch with the majority that we MUST sell off all the art which hasn't seen the light of day for years and move that soppy exhibition of buffoon in rags to elsewhere. And, dont tell me to look at the art of the picture- it's a mickey take and so must you be saying it. It's a DISGRACE.
I went to the gallery today. What an offensive picture that is to have in the Southampton City art gallery. As far as I am concerned the city art director might as well be sticking two fingers up to every Saints fan and Southampton person in the city letting this picture of him and his blue rags in the gallery. I am now convinced the art world is so far out of touch with the majority that we MUST sell off all the art which hasn't seen the light of day for years and move that soppy exhibition of buffoon in rags to elsewhere. And, dont tell me to look at the art of the picture- it's a mickey take and so must you be saying it. It's a DISGRACE. Dooody

10:50pm Fri 2 Oct 09

Linesman says...

clausentum wrote:
Linesman wrote:
echoidiot wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just!
You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general.
Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match.
I imagine that they would be provided in both cities.
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echoidiot[/bold] wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just![/p][/quote]You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general. [/p][/quote]Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match.[/p][/quote]I imagine that they would be provided in both cities. Linesman

11:39pm Fri 2 Oct 09

clausentum says...

Linesman wrote:
clausentum wrote:
Linesman wrote:
echoidiot wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just!
You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general.
Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match.
I imagine that they would be provided in both cities.
Yes. With additional secure playpens strategicaly sited at 10 mile intervals along the M27 linking the two cities, with alternating playpens painted in red and white and, in blue and white. Arn't these numbskulls a disgrace to their respective cities, their communities and likely a huge disappointment to their mums?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echoidiot[/bold] wrote: i have just been told that st marys is not in the running for the next world cup! is this correct?. but portsmouth is. and also that portsmouth as a whole are putting southampton forward as a nice place for the visiting supporters to stay at in hotels. is this just a ploy to get disgruntled fans to wreck southampton instead of portsmouth? i dont think so, we all live on the south coast so what the hell are you gripeing about? i live exactly half way between southampton and portsmouth, and i feel bad when either team dont do well. for christ sake grow up. sw/very-just![/p][/quote]You are correct. Southampton did put in a bid, but they missed the deadline. If Portsmouth is selected, then both cities and both football clubs will gain financially. It would provide and excellent opportunity for adults to behave like adults and work together for the benefit of both cities and the area in general. [/p][/quote]Facilities would need to include a secure playpen for knuckle-dragging fake football supporters with IQ's below 50 and vocabularies to match.[/p][/quote]I imagine that they would be provided in both cities.[/p][/quote]Yes. With additional secure playpens strategicaly sited at 10 mile intervals along the M27 linking the two cities, with alternating playpens painted in red and white and, in blue and white. Arn't these numbskulls a disgrace to their respective cities, their communities and likely a huge disappointment to their mums? clausentum

10:15am Sat 3 Oct 09

echoidiot says...

cant we just put both teams fans in a compound (the known trouble makers) and let them beat hell out of each other until we get to the last man standing, then hang him.
cant we just put both teams fans in a compound (the known trouble makers) and let them beat hell out of each other until we get to the last man standing, then hang him. echoidiot

12:32pm Sat 3 Oct 09

Red & White Never Blue says...

Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake
Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake Red & White Never Blue

12:41pm Sat 3 Oct 09

freemantlegirl2 says...

Red & White Never Blue wrote:
Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake
I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!).
[quote][p][bold]Red & White Never Blue[/bold] wrote: Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake [/p][/quote]I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!). freemantlegirl2

1:56pm Sat 3 Oct 09

clausentum says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Red & White Never Blue wrote:
Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake
I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!).
Spoken like a true mum ;-)

Like a family referee ;-)

You may not get a response from "red, white and true right wing blue", for a while, he is likely practising penning his cross on the EDL's sign-up form.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red & White Never Blue[/bold] wrote: Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake [/p][/quote]I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!). [/p][/quote]Spoken like a true mum ;-) Like a family referee ;-) You may not get a response from "red, white and true right wing blue", for a while, he is likely practising penning his cross on the EDL's sign-up form. clausentum

1:57pm Sat 3 Oct 09

Southampton Heart says...

After seeing this portrait....I do believe in scary ghosts!....I do...I do...I do !!!.
After seeing this portrait....I do believe in scary ghosts!....I do...I do...I do !!!. Southampton Heart

2:06pm Sat 3 Oct 09

Linesman says...

I wonder how many people have visited the art gallery for the first time, just because of this painting!

If it has done nothing else, it has certainly created an interest in the place that has been sadly lacking for many years.

When the painting is moved to its next gallery, perhaps The Echo could run stories, at regular intervals, about controversial paintings that are on view. This may result in people getting the opportunity to see the valuable paintings that the City has stored in the basement, that have never been on view and with a small charge made, perhaps paintings would not need to be sold to fund the proposed 'white elephant'!

I wonder how many people have visited the art gallery for the first time, just because of this painting! If it has done nothing else, it has certainly created an interest in the place that has been sadly lacking for many years. When the painting is moved to its next gallery, perhaps The Echo could run stories, at regular intervals, about controversial paintings that are on view. This may result in people getting the opportunity to see the valuable paintings that the City has stored in the basement, that have never been on view and with a small charge made, perhaps paintings would not need to be sold to fund the proposed 'white elephant'! Linesman

5:55pm Sat 3 Oct 09

freemantlegirl2 says...

clausentum wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Red & White Never Blue wrote:
Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake
I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!).
Spoken like a true mum ;-)

Like a family referee ;-)

You may not get a response from "red, white and true right wing blue", for a while, he is likely practising penning his cross on the EDL's sign-up form.
Yes, spot on Claus.... but then again you were both acting like children (except v. foul mouthed children in R,W's case!)..... toddler taming can also be applied to certain male individuals when they throw their toys out of the pram.....

Linesman, again spot on - I'm convinced it was a publicity stunt which has done the Gallery, Artist and Exhibitors no harm whatsoever ;)!
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red & White Never Blue[/bold] wrote: Tut tut not condoning violence now are we. Don't stand on tour knuckles by mistake [/p][/quote]I'm amazed you haven't been banned after your extreme, foul-mouthed and disgusting abuse earlier today which I see has been removed! You are both as bad as each other (rather resembling the person who you are criticising, or even worse!). [/p][/quote]Spoken like a true mum ;-) Like a family referee ;-) You may not get a response from "red, white and true right wing blue", for a while, he is likely practising penning his cross on the EDL's sign-up form.[/p][/quote]Yes, spot on Claus.... but then again you were both acting like children (except v. foul mouthed children in R,W's case!)..... toddler taming can also be applied to certain male individuals when they throw their toys out of the pram..... Linesman, again spot on - I'm convinced it was a publicity stunt which has done the Gallery, Artist and Exhibitors no harm whatsoever ;)! freemantlegirl2

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