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Fluoride tide halted by ancient court


IT took three times of asking and the casting vote of Southampton’s sheriff.

But Southampton’s ancient Court Leet agreed to ask the city council to rethink its support for adding fluoride to tap water.

Anti-fluoride campaigners seized the chance to put their case for councillors to vote again on the scheme, which would affect 160,000 city residents, following the extent of public opposition.

Some 72 per cent of the 10,000 responses to a consultation by the South Central Strategic health Authority were not in favour and its decision to press ahead is now subject to a judicial review.

The jury of court, which has sat since the 14th century to hear “presentments”

from citizens on matters of local concern, at first refused two requests for a fluoride rethink. A third request evenly split the jury after a couple of members left the session early and the sheriff, Councillor Carol Cunio, used her casting vote to accept it. The city council will now have to consider the court’s plea for another fluoride debate.

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Hampshire Against Fluoride spokesman Stephen Peckham had told the court: “During the consultation the city council voted by a majority of four in favour of the scheme.

Since the health authority made their decision a number of councillors have expressed their disquiet about the decision and how it was made. If the council knew local residents were so opposed they may have made a different decision.”

Children from Weston Park Junior School joined Sheriff Cunio in the Beating the Bounds ceremony at the Bargate, an ancient tradition to observe a parish’s boundaries. The children won the backing of the court for the council to introduce more play equipment and activities in Weston.


Comments(13)

Swalk says...
10:00am Wed 7 Oct 09

Now the cabinet have to decide whether or not to have another full council debate. That should give us an idea about whether or not they care about public opinion

southy says...
12:09pm Wed 7 Oct 09

well done people, keep them busy force them in taking time over putting it in the water, till the next local election, when the socialist party can put up canididates for election to the local councils. they will listen to the public and go with what the majority wants from the public.

Lone Ranger says...
1:20pm Wed 7 Oct 09

southy wrote:
well done people, keep them busy force them in taking time over putting it in the water, till the next local election, when the socialist party can put up canididates for election to the local councils. they will listen to the public and go with what the majority wants from the public.
Southy:- How will they know what the majority of the public want.
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Judge it by comments made on here.
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By the 2000 that signed a petition.
None of these show a majority of people.... they just show a selection of people.
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Now you are going to say have a referendum......what a waste of more taxpayers money

southy says...
3:11pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Lone Ranger, Southampton when it comes to matters of importance having a referendum is not a waste of public money, it make sure that you doing what the public really wants and the right thing, and adding any chemical to water other than the ones that keep the water clean and safe to drink, should not be added with out public say so.

southy says...
3:14pm Wed 7 Oct 09

also it would cost less than £500 to hold a referendum of this nature for the whole of hampshire.

ameliaS says...
9:22pm Wed 7 Oct 09

We don't need a referendum. Mass medication cannot be ethical as it does not permit people to give informed consent. If fluoride is added to the water, a precendent will be set and then what? Perhaps they'll try to add anti-obesity medication to deal with all the fat people. Let's not go down this road.

Lone Ranger says...
9:35pm Wed 7 Oct 09

southy wrote:
also it would cost less than £500 to hold a referendum of this nature for the whole of hampshire.
That is not true Southy. You need paper and someone to count. Now i am useless at maths ( a bit like yourself ) but i would say for starters that is more than £500

jwillie6 says...
10:37pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Congratulatins to the vast majority of the citizens. People around the world have read the research and caught on to the hoax of fluoridation. When referenda are held, promoters of fluoridation lose about 80% of the time. We are refusing to allow the big chemical companies to profit by selling their toxic waste fluoride to the communities at the expense of our health.

southy says...
11:55pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Lone Ranger wrote:
southy wrote:
also it would cost less than £500 to hold a referendum of this nature for the whole of hampshire.
That is not true Southy. You need paper and someone to count. Now i am useless at maths ( a bit like yourself ) but i would say for starters that is more than £500
it is less, its taken from government figures on how much it cost, from how much it cost to have an election, thats why they put that figure of £500 deposit on any one who wants to enter a general election, whitch are more expensive, a referendum of this nature would be a lot cheaper because a lot less people would be needed, for a start the police would not be needed, all what would be need is postal cards to each reg/voting people and a machine to count the votes, whitch is located in the royal mail local head office, the delivery of the postal vote cards are free, its part of the state own postal agreement, the most costly part is the postal cards them selfs but this is done on mass bulk so it would be dirt cheap.

Andy Locks Heath says...
7:21am Thu 8 Oct 09

If fluoride is "toxic waste" jwillie then it must be the by product of some other manufacturing process. So what is that process? If you can't answer then we all know that you are just another one of these bizarre Americans motivated by some ulterior reason. Also, York University's research concluded that there is no evidence that fluoride is harmful. Are you saying that UK university research is flawed compared to the USA? Are you as an American aware of the geological and chemical conditions in the waters where fluoridation is proposed? What are your views on chlorine, which is also added to water here? Is that a "toxic by product" as well? What are your views on lead water pipes? What are your views on mercury amalgam fillings? I dont think you have a cohesive view at all do you? Like all single issue weirdos you are obsessed by one thing without any balanced view at all. What is your motivation coming on to this site? Is it religious? Are you a conspiracy theorist? Come on be honest or just mind your own goddam business.

Swalk says...
8:12am Thu 8 Oct 09

Toxic waste - yes it's a by-product of the fertiliser industry which is hard to dispose of elsewhere

York Review - "no evidence that it is harmful" is palpably not the same thing as proof that it is safe! In any case, the York Review criticised the overall standard of research and said that more was needed

Thanks for giving me that chance to say that, Andy

southy says...
3:41pm Thu 8 Oct 09

not just fertilisers swalk, it can also come from nuclear production, metals, glass, coal, oil. and many many other things.
what maybe needed here is that the some information cant be got at, like what type of fluoride it is what its source who providing it, and where is it coming from, those facts are being hiden and its this that is the cause of miss-trust, we know to well what our government can be like, for testing some thing out on the population with out giving the full facts, or not even telling the public some times, like they did in the late 50's and early 60's when they sprayed dormant anthrax over the south coast, theres a level of miss trust with our governments where they dont come clean and give the full facts, if they did it would go a long way in helping.
andy chlorine, is very toxic and needs to be keep a close eye on, but sadly we need it in our drinking water, it kill the germs that can cause polo, chorea and other illness, it also keeps the water freash

jwillie6 says...
8:52pm Sun 11 Oct 09

Don't be confused by chlorine in drinking water. It is there to treat the water. Fluoride is added to treat the human body, which is a hugh difference. We should all search for truth, wherever it comes from. When the fertilitser companies, and others, clean their smokestacks, they bag the waste fluoride chemical, which contains lead, mercury, arsenic, etc. and sell it to communities.
Those promoting fluoridation simply refuse to read the current research showing it is ineffective and dangerous to health. Go to (www.fluoridealert.o
rg) and read several articles.
Read the letter from Dr. Hardy Limeback ( DDS, PhD Biochemistry) --- Head, Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto entitled "Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water"
He was the principal research advisor to the Canadian Dental Asociation for over 10 years in promoting fluoridation. His letter is an apology to other dentists and the public.
Over 140 Research studies listed, including:
Increased risk of bone cancer -- 13 studies
Lead, arsenic, radium contaminants causing toxic water -- 10 studies
Link with fluoride and other cancer -- 12
Fluoride causes birth defects -- 5
Fluoride affects the immune systems -- 12
Fluoride is neurotoxic (brain, nerves, lowering IQ) -- 11
Etc.
Also see the petition signed by over 2600 professionals opposing fluoridation.


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