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12:00pm Thursday 4th February 2010 in
THE owner of a new Southampton taxi plate is trying to sell it for a £30,000 profit just weeks after it was virtually given away by the council in a lottery-style draw.
Shouyb Mohammad Yaqub beat 342 other applicants to win one of four £180 Hackney Carriage licences issued in December.
But he has now put his money spinning taxi plate, together with a £25,000 seven-seater wheelchair friendly taxi, on the market for £55,000.
Defending the sale of the plate and Citroen car, a‘59 registration with 5,000 miles on the clock, Mr Yaqub said: “It’s a good deal. I will sell to whoever wants to buy it.”
Last night taxi trade chiefs accused him of profiteering and said he could have prevented a genuine driver from entering the trade.
Southampton Hackney Association chairman Ian Hall said: “Selling for profit is not the right way to go about this. I think it’s disgusting, “These people are trying to make money out of our trade by buying and selling plates. I find it very distasteful. It’s stopping genuine people coming into the trade.”
Mr Yaqub, of James Street, St Mary’s, denied profiteering, insisting he had no intention to sell up when he won his licence.
He said he was now moving to Australia, although refused to discuss his reasons why.
Yaqub claimed he had already received an upfront cash offer of more than £40,000 with the balance to be paid in six months, but was holding out for more. His taxi was being offered for sale through a notice at the offices of Radio Taxis, a leading city cab firm.
The Daily Echo revealed in September how taxi plates were fetching up to £35,000 on the open market, but legally the council could only charge £180 per licence when issued to cover its costs.
The number of hackney carriage taxis, cabs that can be hailed in the street, had been limited to 263 in Southampton. But a survey found "significant unmet demand" and councillors agreed to issue 20 new plates.
Twenty names were picked from a hat in a draw held behind closed doors.
In a bid to limit abuse of the system, licensing bosses demanded applicants prove they had the £20,000 needed to put a taxi on the road.
But a council spokesman admitted that once the licenses have been issued the authority has no say in when it can be sold on or who to.
Matthew Elliott, chief executive at the Taxpayers' Alliance said it was “ludicrous” that taxpayers could not cash on the taxi plates.
“These plates are worth a small fortune, money that could make a real difference to council tax bills or public services. The law needs to be looked at.”
Four of the winners were issued with their plates in December. Eight more plates will be issued at the end of this year with the remaining eight issue in 2011.
Comments(36)
Big Mac
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12:16pm Thu 4 Feb 10
hulla baloo
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12:18pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy
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12:21pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy
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12:25pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Big Mac wrote:it was only open to excising taxi's drivers
What a disgrace. This is just another example of just how 'broken' this country is.
Did the man in question have to pass any qualifying tests before entering the 'secret lottery'?
Who will 'police' the new recipient as well, assuming anyone can be bothered to find out. The Civic Centre joke shop remains open.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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12:27pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy wrote:The Taxi Licence is being sold not the car.
taxi's have be a certain standard, there is so many rules in what car can be used has a taxi, like a taxi car has a max age limit, if it go's pass this age then it no longer allowed to used has a taxi. it cost a hell of a lot of money to keep and run a taxi.
just think how much a brand new car cost, and then when it gets to say 6 years old it has to be replace.
My View from the Hill
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12:30pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Condor Man
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12:35pm Thu 4 Feb 10
rjfmusic
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12:40pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Stykxx
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12:41pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy wrote:Actually Southy your wrong on this point. It was open to anyone in the country who could meet the criteria i.e. financing of a new vehicle. It was advertised in the local press.
Big Mac wrote:it was only open to excising taxi's drivers
What a disgrace. This is just another example of just how 'broken' this country is.
Did the man in question have to pass any qualifying tests before entering the 'secret lottery'?
Who will 'police' the new recipient as well, assuming anyone can be bothered to find out. The Civic Centre joke shop remains open.
Here, There
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12:45pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Unlimited* Service
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12:46pm Thu 4 Feb 10
rjfmusic wrote:Point well made and agreed with.
What's the point of the licensing system then? A taxi licence should no more be able to be sold to another party than a driving licence, a licence to sell alcohol, a television licence or a marriage licence!
Unlimited* Service
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12:47pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Condor Man wrote:They have now been notified - job done.
surely the HMRC need to get involved as he's made a capital gain from this.
cowley
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1:12pm Thu 4 Feb 10
freemantlegirl2
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1:32pm Thu 4 Feb 10
St.DaveH
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2:37pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Redback
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2:39pm Thu 4 Feb 10
j1306
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5:09pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy
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5:15pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Stykxx wrote:it was limited to a certain people, you need to be running a taxi service and/or have a taxi plate, it was not open to any body. like my self it was not open to me.
southy wrote:Actually Southy your wrong on this point. It was open to anyone in the country who could meet the criteria i.e. financing of a new vehicle. It was advertised in the local press.
Big Mac wrote:it was only open to excising taxi's drivers
What a disgrace. This is just another example of just how 'broken' this country is.
Did the man in question have to pass any qualifying tests before entering the 'secret lottery'?
Who will 'police' the new recipient as well, assuming anyone can be bothered to find out. The Civic Centre joke shop remains open.
That being said i am still against how it was carried out. It was a secret lottery held behind closed doors.
The council knew this would happen otherwise they would not have been accepting applications from Bradford, Leeds and Manchester to name but a few .
The only way to overcome this problem simply is to delimit the number of hackney plates issued. Then as long as you have the correct vehicle you get issued a plate just like the private hire vehicles. By doing this you remove the black market trade in the limited number of plates.
southy
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5:21pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:who said any thing about a car being sold i did't, and reading all the posts your the only one who come up with it.
southy wrote:The Taxi Licence is being sold not the car.
taxi's have be a certain standard, there is so many rules in what car can be used has a taxi, like a taxi car has a max age limit, if it go's pass this age then it no longer allowed to used has a taxi. it cost a hell of a lot of money to keep and run a taxi.
just think how much a brand new car cost, and then when it gets to say 6 years old it has to be replace.
Lone Ranger
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5:47pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Unlimited* Service wrote:Why basically slag off the enterprising cabbie who has made a nice earner. Its the cr*p council that we have to put up that is the problem.
Condor Man wrote: surely the HMRC need to get involved as he's made a capital gain from this.They have now been notified - job done.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu
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6:57pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy wrote:Such a simple explanation that the detail has once again escaped your limited intellect. The story refers to a Taxi Licence which you then wondered off in to your usual la-la land to waffle on about the cost of a taxi blah blah blah. Totally irrelevant as most of your postings are so lets stick purely to the Licence the story is about and not the cost of your cousins flat screen television or any other trivia you think the story needs flowering up with. I'm constantly amused by someone who left school at twelve, can barely read and write, hardly made anything in life accusing someone indeed anyone else of not being very bright as a form of insult. As they say you settled for low standards which you constantly failed to achieve.That is an insult based on facts you have been silly enough to post.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:who said any thing about a car being sold i did't, and reading all the posts your the only one who come up with it.
southy wrote:The Taxi Licence is being sold not the car.
taxi's have be a certain standard, there is so many rules in what car can be used has a taxi, like a taxi car has a max age limit, if it go's pass this age then it no longer allowed to used has a taxi. it cost a hell of a lot of money to keep and run a taxi.
just think how much a brand new car cost, and then when it gets to say 6 years old it has to be replace.
let me explain in simple terms for you.
the car thats going to be used has a taxi, with this taxi licence, has to be with in a certain conditition, and there is a age limit that the car can be, if the car can not meet rules that are laid down then the taxi licence can not be use on that car.
not very bright are you
Condor Man
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7:10pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Lone Ranger wrote:If this man's made a profit out of business he should be taxed on it- that's the law. As for the council, what a pity your beloved paymaster and his cohorts weren't as pro-active at the local Tories when it came to the 2008 elections. The Tories went out and won over hearts and minds, not relied on a tarnished track record.
Unlimited* Service wrote:Why basically slag off the enterprising cabbie who has made a nice earner. Its the cr*p council that we have to put up that is the problem. . Havent seen the Echo yet but i wonder which one has their mug shot in there tonight from the councilCondor Man wrote: surely the HMRC need to get involved as he's made a capital gain from this.They have now been notified - job done.
clausentum
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7:40pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:Joyous to observe the froth and nonsense being deftly skimmed off the top of his gaseous pint of Watney's Red Barrel revealing his mind-burping banality, in it's full cloth-capped glory.
southy wrote:Such a simple explanation that the detail has once again escaped your limited intellect. The story refers to a Taxi Licence which you then wondered off in to your usual la-la land to waffle on about the cost of a taxi blah blah blah. Totally irrelevant as most of your postings are so lets stick purely to the Licence the story is about and not the cost of your cousins flat screen television or any other trivia you think the story needs flowering up with. I'm constantly amused by someone who left school at twelve, can barely read and write, hardly made anything in life accusing someone indeed anyone else of not being very bright as a form of insult. As they say you settled for low standards which you constantly failed to achieve.That is an insult based on facts you have been silly enough to post.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:who said any thing about a car being sold i did't, and reading all the posts your the only one who come up with it.
southy wrote:The Taxi Licence is being sold not the car.
taxi's have be a certain standard, there is so many rules in what car can be used has a taxi, like a taxi car has a max age limit, if it go's pass this age then it no longer allowed to used has a taxi. it cost a hell of a lot of money to keep and run a taxi.
just think how much a brand new car cost, and then when it gets to say 6 years old it has to be replace.
let me explain in simple terms for you.
the car thats going to be used has a taxi, with this taxi licence, has to be with in a certain conditition, and there is a age limit that the car can be, if the car can not meet rules that are laid down then the taxi licence can not be use on that car.
not very bright are you
EELS MAN
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8:03pm Thu 4 Feb 10
clausentum
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8:11pm Thu 4 Feb 10
EELS MAN wrote:Referring to a third-rate football team simply clouds the issue!
This bloke is obviously a t@sser as is the council.
All this just makes me so angry, why aren't we marching on the town hall.
This council and indeed the government victimises the general public to the point of ridicule.
They set stupid laws & regulations that are so dumb you have to question their sanity.
At the same time we have all the "do gooders" that tell you, you are a bad person if you have a view that doesn't comply with theirs.
Saints preserve us, please!
Sir Ad E Noid
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8:30pm Thu 4 Feb 10
EELS MAN
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8:45pm Thu 4 Feb 10
clausentum wrote:Yeh yeh I know, football players aren't the brightest of buttons.
EELS MAN wrote: This bloke is obviously a t@sser as is the council. All this just makes me so angry, why aren't we marching on the town hall. This council and indeed the government victimises the general public to the point of ridicule. They set stupid laws & regulations that are so dumb you have to question their sanity. At the same time we have all the "do gooders" that tell you, you are a bad person if you have a view that doesn't comply with theirs. Saints preserve us, please!Referring to a third-rate football team simply clouds the issue! They cannot "preserve" you nor can they help you. They have enough on their plate right now - pretending to offer skilled, watchable, entertaining footie while increasing their thumping big bank balances. I know. I know. Uncalled-for deviation. But so what?
clausentum
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8:55pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Sir Ad E Noid wrote:Are you the: Armchair Anarchist's interpreter? Bruvver? Drinking mate? Apologist? Arbiter of Commonsense and Public Debate? Stifle-er of Rich and Varied Verbal-Duelling?
Derek, you do come over as a pompous a**eh**e. I think what Southy was trying to say was: The £55,000 is not just for the plate, but also for the car. The plate is worth £25-30,000. The car makes up the balance. You make out you know plenty of Southys life. Well tell us about yours. How long have you lived in Dibden Purlieu, maybe even tell us what area you live in? I bet it’s in Hythe? No more of your insults. I promise you, I will be a good judge of what you achieved.
southy
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10:27pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Sir Ad E Noid wrote:he dont live in dibden purlieu, he lives here in old redbridge in council emergency accomadation sir ad noid.
Derek, you do come over as a pompous a**eh**e. I think what Southy was trying to say was: The £55,000 is not just for the plate, but also for the car. The plate is worth £25-30,000. The car makes up the balance. You make out you know plenty of Southys life. Well tell us about yours. How long have you lived in Dibden Purlieu, maybe even tell us what area you live in? I bet it’s in Hythe? No more of your insults. I promise you, I will be a good judge of what you achieved.
clausentum
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10:36pm Thu 4 Feb 10
southy wrote:As an Englishman, my home is a Castle.
Sir Ad E Noid wrote:he dont live in dibden purlieu, he lives here in old redbridge in council emergency accomadation sir ad noid.
Derek, you do come over as a pompous a**eh**e. I think what Southy was trying to say was: The £55,000 is not just for the plate, but also for the car. The plate is worth £25-30,000. The car makes up the balance. You make out you know plenty of Southys life. Well tell us about yours. How long have you lived in Dibden Purlieu, maybe even tell us what area you live in? I bet it’s in Hythe? No more of your insults. I promise you, I will be a good judge of what you achieved.
southy
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10:37pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:derek whitch bit escapes you.
southy wrote:Such a simple explanation that the detail has once again escaped your limited intellect. The story refers to a Taxi Licence which you then wondered off in to your usual la-la land to waffle on about the cost of a taxi blah blah blah. Totally irrelevant as most of your postings are so lets stick purely to the Licence the story is about and not the cost of your cousins flat screen television or any other trivia you think the story needs flowering up with. I'm constantly amused by someone who left school at twelve, can barely read and write, hardly made anything in life accusing someone indeed anyone else of not being very bright as a form of insult. As they say you settled for low standards which you constantly failed to achieve.That is an insult based on facts you have been silly enough to post.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:who said any thing about a car being sold i did't, and reading all the posts your the only one who come up with it.
southy wrote:The Taxi Licence is being sold not the car.
taxi's have be a certain standard, there is so many rules in what car can be used has a taxi, like a taxi car has a max age limit, if it go's pass this age then it no longer allowed to used has a taxi. it cost a hell of a lot of money to keep and run a taxi.
just think how much a brand new car cost, and then when it gets to say 6 years old it has to be replace.
let me explain in simple terms for you.
the car thats going to be used has a taxi, with this taxi licence, has to be with in a certain conditition, and there is a age limit that the car can be, if the car can not meet rules that are laid down then the taxi licence can not be use on that car.
not very bright are you
Gilmore
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1:38am Fri 5 Feb 10
southy
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12:02pm Fri 5 Feb 10
Gilmore wrote:its only the echo milking it.
It's a disgrace!
It's a disgrace that this newspaper barely even addresses the facts, merely speculation and it's up to the commenters to fill in the blanks.
As of tomorrow, I'm applying for a job at this hideous publication to try and save the idea of local journalism. How and why we've put up with these sub-standard knee-jerk opinion pieces for so long, I'll never know.
Sir Ad E Noid
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9:49pm Fri 5 Feb 10
clausentum wrote:No, I don't fit into any of your pigeon holes. I just don’t like to see people picked on. I guess you do?
Sir Ad E Noid wrote: Derek, you do come over as a pompous a**eh**e. I think what Southy was trying to say was: The £55,000 is not just for the plate, but also for the car. The plate is worth £25-30,000. The car makes up the balance. You make out you know plenty of Southys life. Well tell us about yours. How long have you lived in Dibden Purlieu, maybe even tell us what area you live in? I bet it’s in Hythe? No more of your insults. I promise you, I will be a good judge of what you achieved.Are you the: Armchair Anarchist's interpreter? Bruvver? Drinking mate? Apologist? Arbiter of Commonsense and Public Debate? Stifle-er of Rich and Varied Verbal-Duelling? Do you live in a glass house?
southy
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11:21am Sat 6 Feb 10
Sir Ad E Noid wrote:your get use his and derek BS
clausentum wrote:No, I don't fit into any of your pigeon holes. I just don’t like to see people picked on. I guess you do?
Sir Ad E Noid wrote: Derek, you do come over as a pompous a**eh**e. I think what Southy was trying to say was: The £55,000 is not just for the plate, but also for the car. The plate is worth £25-30,000. The car makes up the balance. You make out you know plenty of Southys life. Well tell us about yours. How long have you lived in Dibden Purlieu, maybe even tell us what area you live in? I bet it’s in Hythe? No more of your insults. I promise you, I will be a good judge of what you achieved.Are you the: Armchair Anarchist's interpreter? Bruvver? Drinking mate? Apologist? Arbiter of Commonsense and Public Debate? Stifle-er of Rich and Varied Verbal-Duelling? Do you live in a glass house?
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G0Rf says...
12:06pm Thu 4 Feb 10
they should have sell on clauses....like football players do!
council get a cut if u sell it on
hahah security word town-kind...yes very kind to these taxi drivers!