Summer tariff on water bills (From Daily Echo)

I'm glad I don't live in Hampshire anymore ! Looks like the the bosses at Southern Water are sorting out their Christmas bonuses already ! !

that's not fair considering I don't have a garden.

Here we go again. More excuses to hike bills. I thought the global warming debate was warning of milder winters & wetter summers?

Doesn't really tally does it?

They can't have it both ways - but then of course they always do. The customer foots the bill for privatisation profits once again.

Thought we were having record rainfalls and what about investing in new reservoirs, etc to store the water?
Sorry I forgot because it’s a private company we have to pay the shareholders and huge top level salaries first!

We will all just have to smell then :)

Disgraceful to say the least.
Water should never have been privatised. Sooner it is brought back into public ownership and run by the people who are democratically accountable for their actions the better.

Not like Southern Water to be complete and utter scum to its customers, only last year they threatened me with bailliffs twice because I couldn't pay their extortionate bills after being made redundant.

"Ofwat, the water regulator, said it approved the new charges because of the water resource crisis in the south" - presumably the crisis is that all this stuff falling from the sky isn't being channelled properly or something, as RomseyNB points out.

"Over the next five years every home in Southampton, Winchester, Eastleigh, Romsey and the Waterside will be metered" - thanks for the consultation Southern Water, when were you going to spring that one on us?

RomseyNB wrote:
Thought we were having record rainfalls and what about investing in new reservoirs, etc to store the water?
Sorry I forgot because it’s a private company we have to pay the shareholders and huge top level salaries first!

the biggest problem is that we have not had the a good hard winter where we get a lot of snow, for a number of years now to top up ground water tables, what a lot of people dont relise too is that has we get a greater time period after an ice age the ground water table will slowly drop each year it might only be about 0.5 mm a year but when you add that up over 100's years it adds up.

southy wrote:

RomseyNB wrote: Thought we were having record rainfalls and what about investing in new reservoirs, etc to store the water? Sorry I forgot because it’s a private company we have to pay the shareholders and huge top level salaries first!

the biggest problem is that we have not had the a good hard winter where we get a lot of snow, for a number of years now to top up ground water tables, what a lot of people dont relise too is that has we get a greater time period after an ice age the ground water table will slowly drop each year it might only be about 0.5 mm a year but when you add that up over 100's years it adds up.

The surface water from rain, etc runs into streams and rivers then to the sea. With recent rains, etc the streams and rivers have swollen allowing water to be taken out to reservoirs before it reaches the sea for future (summer) use. This is the case in West End. Water is taken from the Itchen and sent to Portsmouth via a tunnel constructed many years ago, in the days when Southern Water was a publicly owned utility and did not answer to shareholders. In other words the interests of the people came before unnecessary profits.

RomseyNB wrote:

southy wrote:

RomseyNB wrote: Thought we were having record rainfalls and what about investing in new reservoirs, etc to store the water? Sorry I forgot because it’s a private company we have to pay the shareholders and huge top level salaries first!

the biggest problem is that we have not had the a good hard winter where we get a lot of snow, for a number of years now to top up ground water tables, what a lot of people dont relise too is that has we get a greater time period after an ice age the ground water table will slowly drop each year it might only be about 0.5 mm a year but when you add that up over 100's years it adds up.

The surface water from rain, etc runs into streams and rivers then to the sea. With recent rains, etc the streams and rivers have swollen allowing water to be taken out to reservoirs before it reaches the sea for future (summer) use. This is the case in West End. Water is taken from the Itchen and sent to Portsmouth via a tunnel constructed many years ago, in the days when Southern Water was a publicly owned utility and did not answer to shareholders. In other words the interests of the people came before unnecessary profits.

yes i know and your find i am all for state owership.
but what your not relizing is that when you have snow and this snow starts thaw out a much greater amount of water sinks into the ground and go a lot deeper, where has rain water like you said go's straight in the rivers and very little sinks in to the ground and dont help ground water tables, and this is your main reason why river levels are dropping, theres not enough water in the ground to bring up the water table levels. one day of snow is about equal to 16 days of drizzle.

The problems created by Southern Water not providing enough water supply and the council for building more homes that our current supply cannot sustain.

Forget the weather, so far we have had more than sufficiant rainfall but Southern water, as some of you have stated, are letting it run back into river/sea istead of channeling it properly.

Stupideditor wrote:
The problems created by Southern Water not providing enough water supply and the council for building more homes that our current supply cannot sustain.

Forget the weather, so far we have had more than sufficiant rainfall but Southern water, as some of you have stated, are letting it run back into river/sea istead of channeling it properly.

you need the water in the ground not on the surface, when water in the ground there is a slow release in the rivers. you can have heavy rain for every day of the year and it still would not be enough simple reason is because the water in not getting the ground deep enough and just washes away into the rivers.

Having had the coldest wettest winter for years, they are increasing their prices and trying to stop us growing our own in these tough times during the summer months, what sort of planet do they think their customers come from? We are no longer fooled by their con jobs, unfortunately we do not have a choice of supplier unlike other utilities so we are forced to pay their inflated prices
Global Warming my ****

southy wrote:

Stupideditor wrote: The problems created by Southern Water not providing enough water supply and the council for building more homes that our current supply cannot sustain. Forget the weather, so far we have had more than sufficiant rainfall but Southern water, as some of you have stated, are letting it run back into river/sea istead of channeling it properly.

you need the water in the ground not on the surface, when water in the ground there is a slow release in the rivers. you can have heavy rain for every day of the year and it still would not be enough simple reason is because the water in not getting the ground deep enough and just washes away into the rivers.

Well then there is a problem with the way in which the water is collected then. As many others have said the money is being plouged into the pockets of the shareholders/managem
ent instead of research.

Why pick on people with meters, they are the ones that are careful with water usage. The ones that don't care how much they use are the ones that pay the old water rates. They pay the same no matter how much they use.

You ain't seen nothing yet - when the Tories get in they plan to privatise the air supply!

Stupideditor wrote:

southy wrote:

Stupideditor wrote: The problems created by Southern Water not providing enough water supply and the council for building more homes that our current supply cannot sustain. Forget the weather, so far we have had more than sufficiant rainfall but Southern water, as some of you have stated, are letting it run back into river/sea istead of channeling it properly.

you need the water in the ground not on the surface, when water in the ground there is a slow release in the rivers. you can have heavy rain for every day of the year and it still would not be enough simple reason is because the water in not getting the ground deep enough and just washes away into the rivers.

Well then there is a problem with the way in which the water is collected then. As many others have said the money is being plouged into the pockets of the shareholders/managem

ent instead of research.

agreed on the share holders and the bosses they do take way to much and not plow any back.
theres a fresh water source that is untap and this is the water pockets out in the channel at the bottom of the chalk layer, they fill them selfs up from the channel and the water is that fresh you can drink it. what happens is the sea water fillers down though the chalk and removes all the salt. i often wondered why s/water has not tap into those pockets

It is just another way of stealing money way from customers who have no choice but to pay. When meters are rolled out to all customers Southern Water will still need to extract the same amount of money as they do via rateable value charges and prices for metered water will rocket upwards. We are being robbed.

Have I got this correct.....those of us with meters will pay the seasonal increase, how unfair! Does that mean if you dont have a meter, in effect, you can use water with excess and not be charged more than the annual rate? My house is metered and I'm very aware to conserve water, neighbours who are not and jet wash every thing in site most weekends will not have this seasonal increase? Huh.