Hampshire Hunt New Year meet (From Daily Echo)

What were they hunting?
Fox hunting is banned isn't it?

Hopefully they were just trailing a dragged scent, though pity any poor fox that got in the way. I wonder how many "huntsmen/huntswomen
" stuck around to watch the foxes torn apart in the past and, if they did, they must be pretty sick people. Shoot foxes if necessary (if a good marksman/woman) but don't hunt them for enjoyment and don't try to change a law that's already been decided.

Poppy's clearly not a hunter..... Now i know full well I am going to get lynched here for my views but they are just that MY views..!! QUOTE-Shoot foxes if necessary (if a good marksman/woman) but don't hunt them for enjoyment' This is where the common folk have it wrong. FH was started back in the day to assist with vermin control - Farmers had stock & crop that needed protecting, so the likes of you and me could eat. On the hunts i've attended before the ban, only the sick and maimed have ever been caught, a fit fox will far out run a hound. Tradition is what tradition is and you will never stop it. If you could train every farmer to be a sure fire shot then fine, but that can't be guaranteed, poor shot farmer equates painful death. So fox dies a long agonising death with a bullet lodged somewhere. The first hound to the fox will have broken it's neck before the rest of the pack catch up, surely a quick death would be better than the forementioned... Now i leave you to tear me to pieces...!! Tally HO..!

Wizzel wrote:
Poppy's clearly not a hunter..... Now i know full well I am going to get lynched here for my views but they are just that MY views..!! QUOTE-Shoot foxes if necessary (if a good marksman/woman) but don't hunt them for enjoyment' This is where the common folk have it wrong. FH was started back in the day to assist with vermin control - Farmers had stock & crop that needed protecting, so the likes of you and me could eat. On the hunts i've attended before the ban, only the sick and maimed have ever been caught, a fit fox will far out run a hound. Tradition is what tradition is and you will never stop it. If you could train every farmer to be a sure fire shot then fine, but that can't be guaranteed, poor shot farmer equates painful death. So fox dies a long agonising death with a bullet lodged somewhere. The first hound to the fox will have broken it's neck before the rest of the pack catch up, surely a quick death would be better than the forementioned... Now i leave you to tear me to pieces...!! Tally HO..!

If you deliver BS like that, I could do with a load on my allotment.

If, as you claim, it is about keeping down vermin, why don't they concentrate on the real vermin, rats, that not only destroy crops, but are also disease carriers.

Also, if foxes have to be hunted to protect protect stock and crops, perhaps you could explain why foxes were introduced into America so that they could be hunted?

Badger baiting. **** fighting. Dog fighting. You are just part of this sick society Wizzel

Ref my last.
It would appear that The Echo is unaware that the male chicken is not an obscenity!

Another hunt virgin... In my 40 odd years i've always been too far behind to be a part of the kill. Not that bothers me, i'm not a blood baying sadistic. But i am English and and proud to be so, if that includes keeping tradition then so be it. Cockrel & Dog fighting are NOT part of an Englishmen's tradition, they were started by the lessers and I agree whole hearted with you. Rats are caught in traps or poisened, they still pose an issue to the farmer but are more easilty dealt with. Fox's cause far more devastation by their size. As i said before there will for's and against this is an arguement that will revolve for years to come.

Pointless short story

Linesman wrote:

Wizzel wrote:
Poppy's clearly not a hunter..... Now i know full well I am going to get lynched here for my views but they are just that MY views..!! QUOTE-Shoot foxes if necessary (if a good marksman/woman) but don't hunt them for enjoyment' This is where the common folk have it wrong. FH was started back in the day to assist with vermin control - Farmers had stock & crop that needed protecting, so the likes of you and me could eat. On the hunts i've attended before the ban, only the sick and maimed have ever been caught, a fit fox will far out run a hound. Tradition is what tradition is and you will never stop it. If you could train every farmer to be a sure fire shot then fine, but that can't be guaranteed, poor shot farmer equates painful death. So fox dies a long agonising death with a bullet lodged somewhere. The first hound to the fox will have broken it's neck before the rest of the pack catch up, surely a quick death would be better than the forementioned... Now i leave you to tear me to pieces...!! Tally HO..!

If you deliver BS like that, I could do with a load on my allotment.

If, as you claim, it is about keeping down vermin, why don't they concentrate on the real vermin, rats, that not only destroy crops, but are also disease carriers.

Also, if foxes have to be hunted to protect protect stock and crops, perhaps you could explain why foxes were introduced into America so that they could be hunted?

Badger baiting. **** fighting. Dog fighting. You are just part of this sick society Wizzel

I find it rather amusing when these 'country folk' whine about the attention they receive from groups like the Saboteurs and ALF. They don't like being the target of pursuit themselves.

LOL Huge assumptions...!! I am not 'Country Folk' I am a Corporate Banker and live IN EC2 - Bethnal Green to those who don't know..!!

I see more fox baying on these streets than i ever have on the field.. Naivety fabulous..!!

Wizzel wrote:
LOL Huge assumptions...!! I am not 'Country Folk' I am a Corporate Banker and live IN EC2 - Bethnal Green to those who don't know..!! I see more fox baying on these streets than i ever have on the field.. Naivety fabulous..!!

Corporate? - Yes!
Banker? - I would suggest a similar sounding word.

Go Onlinesman i dare you .. But hokd on hwats the femanine to *anker??

Wizzel wrote:
LOL Huge assumptions...!! I am not 'Country Folk' I am a Corporate Banker and live IN EC2 - Bethnal Green to those who don't know..!!

I see more fox baying on these streets than i ever have on the field.. Naivety fabulous..!!

Banker? The majority of us would prefer that it was you who was being hunted and ripped up by the hounds.


Enjoy your undeserved and ill gotten bonus.

Fox hunting is not a sport its cruel end of!!

Oh I will thanks - I have a nice Irish Hunter coming for the next show and hunt season..!! That will take a portion of it, Barbados might have to have the rest along with the new car and an extension to my already huge home..!

Wizzel wrote:
Oh I will thanks - I have a nice Irish Hunter coming for the next show and hunt season..!! That will take a portion of it, Barbados might have to have the rest along with the new car and an extension to my already huge home..!

Lol, unrepentant, good for you.
On subject anyone who thinks shooting is a "humane" way to deal with this pest is deluded - shooting any animal the size of a fox & guaranteeing a clean kill is impossible.
I speak from some experience, living in a country where countless animal are hunted, and even the "easy" kills often wander in agony for days/weeks before finally dying (or being killed by a larger animal)
Not only that, hunting by rifle in the UK is largely a wealthier person's pastime - they being the only ones likely to be able to obtain the licensing to own the type of gun necessary to do the business, ergo it becomes a rich man's sport again!
I'm personally not convinced in the need to kill foxes at all but if they must the hunt should be considered without the knee-jerk reaction and anti class BS it currently causes.
Always a chance to see a toff break their neck in a fall too!!

Miles Way wrote:

Wizzel wrote: Oh I will thanks - I have a nice Irish Hunter coming for the next show and hunt season..!! That will take a portion of it, Barbados might have to have the rest along with the new car and an extension to my already huge home..!

Lol, unrepentant, good for you. On subject anyone who thinks shooting is a "humane" way to deal with this pest is deluded - shooting any animal the size of a fox & guaranteeing a clean kill is impossible. I speak from some experience, living in a country where countless animal are hunted, and even the "easy" kills often wander in agony for days/weeks before finally dying (or being killed by a larger animal) Not only that, hunting by rifle in the UK is largely a wealthier person's pastime - they being the only ones likely to be able to obtain the licensing to own the type of gun necessary to do the business, ergo it becomes a rich man's sport again! I'm personally not convinced in the need to kill foxes at all but if they must the hunt should be considered without the knee-jerk reaction and anti class BS it currently causes. Always a chance to see a toff break their neck in a fall too!!

I think that I would be correct in saying that the vast majority of animals that are hunted and shot in both Canada and the US, are eaten.

I have yet to know of any huntsman here who sits down to a meal of roast fox.

Oh dear, any minute now the 'monitors' from far flung places will be joining in with this thread.
I fear a repeat of all the previous load of vitriolic cobblers that we had on here last week - with the odd balanced opinion thrown in.
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Security word = lady-rate - Well we will see about that...

In parts of rural France they do cook and eat fox (In a casserole rather than roasted, they tend to be a bit tough). But then the French do tend to eat most things.

X Old Bill wrote:
In parts of rural France they do cook and eat fox (In a casserole rather than roasted, they tend to be a bit tough). But then the French do tend to eat most things.

Don't tell me - let me guess.

Some wolf it down, while others eat at a snail's pace.

No doubt the frogs would be hopping mad about it, if they had not got legless!

X Old Bill wrote:
In parts of rural France they do cook and eat fox (In a casserole rather than roasted, they tend to be a bit tough). But then the French do tend to eat most things.

Bit scrawny I'd have thought but maybe after a marinade??
Answer to Linesman, Deer aside, the vast majority are simply hunted as pests - Raccoon, Coyote, Skunk, Squirrel, even Bear - the list is long, not that it alters the fact that shooting isn't always a sure easy kill as per my comment earlier.

PS X Old Bill, I'm Hampshire through and through hence interest in local stuff - just don't live there right now.

Miles Way:
It wasn't you that I was talking about - take a look at the item on the New Forest Boxing Day meet and you will see what I mean.
Bush meat, Road kill, The odd Canada goose - it's all edible, just adjust the cooking to suit.

X Old Bill wrote:
Miles Way:
It wasn't you that I was talking about - take a look at the item on the New Forest Boxing Day meet and you will see what I mean.
Bush meat, Road kill, The odd Canada goose - it's all edible, just adjust the cooking to suit.

ooops - fair enough.
Took a look at that thread, someone had little too much Xmas pudding and sherry - she was sure full of wind from something!
Lat time I was in Rhyl I couldn't think of a reason to go back but I may put on a sheepskin coat, deerskin hat and take the wife up there to show off her nice fox fur handwarmer next time I'm back!!