No nuclear missile codes for Hampshire MP (From Daily Echo)

Good idea there from DC - paint the conning tower yellow and we could use it as a racing buoy. More useful than the proposed wind farm.

Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks
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With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop?
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Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks
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With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop?
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Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report.

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/media/avdb/news/uk
/video/133000/bb/133
417_16x9_bb.asx

Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks
.
With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop?
.
Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report.

http://news.bbc.co.u

k/media/avdb/news/uk

/video/133000/bb/133

417_16x9_bb.asx

Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

You do know now.

Why are we wasting money on weapons, when the people are suffering big cuts. We should be more like Germany who spends a lot less on weapons, and spend more on its people.
Its no wonder there Economy is a little bit better than our's.

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

southy wrote:
Why are we wasting money on weapons, when the people are suffering big cuts. We should be more like Germany who spends a lot less on weapons, and spend more on its people. Its no wonder there Economy is a little bit better than our's.

More to the point Southy, why are we giving aid to countries that also have there own nuclear weapons like India and Pakistan. We are indirectly funding those WoMD. Why do we need a nuclear weapon anyway? The USA have plenty we are a small country these days and unfortunetley dont have the big punch like we used to decades ago.

southy wrote:
Why are we wasting money on weapons, when the people are suffering big cuts. We should be more like Germany who spends a lot less on weapons, and spend more on its people. Its no wonder there Economy is a little bit better than our's.

Southy, you have raised the right question
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Problem lies in the attitude of our three main thatcherite political parties (Tories, LibDems and NuLabour) none of which has commitment to any serious ideology bar thatcherite mercenary dogma; these parties have been taken over by opportunist career politicians like John Denham, who will say whatever to get what they want for themselves rather than considering the real needs of the people
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The above posts are only minor examples of the dodgy practices of people like Denham use for promoting their own careers. They ride on the back of whatever happens to be politically popular at any given time, make sound bites in favour of the popular subjects without much or any commitment to it. That is why John used somebody’s hard work to be put our under his name, and later on felt comfortable as member of the government which committed UK to wasting resources on super expensive Trident programme, while pleading poverty when it came to essential services for ordinary people.

Ooooh, big Commie love in goin' on here!

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

StEmmosfire wrote:

southy wrote: Why are we wasting money on weapons, when the people are suffering big cuts. We should be more like Germany who spends a lot less on weapons, and spend more on its people. Its no wonder there Economy is a little bit better than our's.

More to the point Southy, why are we giving aid to countries that also have there own nuclear weapons like India and Pakistan. We are indirectly funding those WoMD. Why do we need a nuclear weapon anyway? The USA have plenty we are a small country these days and unfortunetley dont have the big punch like we used to decades ago.

These are very valid questions to be raised, but sadly too sensitive for many do gooders to tolerate
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In my view nice sounding seductive word ‘foreign aid’ is frequently abused because it is often used as slush fund for promoting either interests of the various businesses like arms exporters or part of foreign office policy
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The deeper one looks into this shameful scandal more confusing/murky it gets.
India is good example; it has world’s second fastest growing economy, is not only one of the nuclear powers but also can afford its own independent space programme. On top of all that India also is giving foreign aid to other countries
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You are wrong to suggest that India gets any assistance or aid from us for its nuclear weapons, but amazingly part of the last corruption infested Commonwealth Games in Delhi was to give aid for promotion of sports to countries which included us the United Kingdom along with Australia and Canada and few other so called advanced and rich nations
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Pakistan admittedly is the worse example and a very good reason for reviewing the foreign aid policy. Please do not rely on my figures as I am just quoting out of this old man’s worn out memory, which may not be very sharp. But I think you will find that Pakistan is blowing virtually 50% of its income on weapons and army which includes its intelligence service the ISI, which specialises in financing training and deploying terrorism under the name of a religion and was used by both UK and USA in 1980’s for de facto terrorism in same Afghanistan; where our brave men and women are now paying the price for those follies with their lives
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I have been told by many African friends how our so called foreign aid rather than helping their nations is in fact harming those by keeping corrupt tyrants in power. They use our so called foreign aid to keep the taxes low for their own popularity and even siphon large parts of it into their own bank accounts back in Europe
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I believe that so called foreign aid of our government in fact brings the whole name of this thing into disrepute. Because most British people are compassionate and genuinely like helping those who are in desperate need. They always donate whatever they can to the non governmental charitable organisations, which are million times better in helping the real needy people than frequently questionable exercises implemented by the government
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Finally about India. On 16 May a close friend of former Labour MP Bryan Gould and mine who is economist, former diplomat and ex Cabinet minister of India delivered a lecture at Oxford University’s business school. Getting hold of the copy Mani Shankar Aiyar’s paper may explain what India needs; he did not make any demand for foreign aid but argued for going back to the Nehruvian socialism and Gandhian values as prescriptions for India. I believe we even in the UK can learn a lot from that school of thought. Because policies of our successive governments are also increasing number of poor same way the so called economic miracle is doing in India, where millionaires are becoming multi billionaires and poor have started to lose even the trees to take shelters from mid day sun, which only mad dogs or English men like your goodself tend to like!!!

I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Condor Man wrote:
I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Ahh. The art of big stick diplomacy. I did say stick didn't I? Well both work so it doesn't mater.

Stillness wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Ahh. The art of big stick diplomacy. I did say stick didn't I? Well both work so it doesn't mater.

Because Iran are renowned for their hostile nature against other nations? How many countries is it they've invaded in the last 100 years?? Those evil Iranians, always spoiling for a fight.

Oh why can't they be more like us peace loving brits eh?

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Bringing up Hitler only goes to show that you have no idea when it comes to original thought. As I thought lol.

headworm wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Ahh. The art of big stick diplomacy. I did say stick didn't I? Well both work so it doesn't mater.

Because Iran are renowned for their hostile nature against other nations? How many countries is it they've invaded in the last 100 years?? Those evil Iranians, always spoiling for a fight.

Oh why can't they be more like us peace loving brits eh?

How about their involvement in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Senegal? Until the people boot out Armadinijad Iran is still a threat. Also talk about their links with North Korea strengthens the argument to update Trident (and also the jobs it will provide).

Condor Man wrote:

headworm wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Condor Man wrote: I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Ahh. The art of big stick diplomacy. I did say stick didn't I? Well both work so it doesn't mater.

Because Iran are renowned for their hostile nature against other nations? How many countries is it they've invaded in the last 100 years?? Those evil Iranians, always spoiling for a fight. Oh why can't they be more like us peace loving brits eh?

How about their involvement in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Senegal? Until the people boot out Armadinijad Iran is still a threat. Also talk about their links with North Korea strengthens the argument to update Trident (and also the jobs it will provide).

CM, although I am not keen on the current theocrats who are in power in Iran, should we not clean our own mess before start pointing fingers at others.
You probably (like your goddess of evil Thatcher woman who now has conveniently started to suffer from memory loss) may not want to remember, but was it not the West that spoon fed Ayatollah when he was in exile?
Did we along with Americans not finance train and used what has now become Taliban and Al Qaeda with the help of mother of terrorism ISI of Pakistan?
Why while cutting services for the people in this country under the excuse of financial crisis your darling dodgy Dave Cameron has given another £650 millions to same Pakistan?
How about Iraq? Did your party not support Blair in his illegal and immoral invasion of that country?
Why the hell are our scarce resources being wasted for basically providing unofficial air force to one side of Libyan civil war?
While I have no intention of defending Iran’s current regime, their bad record gets nowhere near our own and the many other Western nations.
Have we not got links with the USA and France's Sarkozi?

Does it strike anyone else how strange it is that comrade southy is the one who is most money obsessed? Perhaps the poor fool still thinks that money is where peace and happiness will be found. As the old saying goes "Look within, or go without".

Obsessed with other peoples money is probably closer to the mark. Won't get a job but wants to live off the backs of other people who have worked hard and got on in life. That's socialism summed up quite neatly.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Condor Man wrote:

headworm wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Condor Man wrote: I've only twice ever respected Gordon Brown. Once was his dignified exit from No 10 (rather touching to see him walk off with his wife and boys) and the other was when he told Clegg to "get real" over Trident. We must never give up our nuclear weapons as they are a massive bargaining chip against the likes of Iran who'd think nothing of holding us to ransom if they felt like it.

Ahh. The art of big stick diplomacy. I did say stick didn't I? Well both work so it doesn't mater.

Because Iran are renowned for their hostile nature against other nations? How many countries is it they've invaded in the last 100 years?? Those evil Iranians, always spoiling for a fight. Oh why can't they be more like us peace loving brits eh?

How about their involvement in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Senegal? Until the people boot out Armadinijad Iran is still a threat. Also talk about their links with North Korea strengthens the argument to update Trident (and also the jobs it will provide).

CM, although I am not keen on the current theocrats who are in power in Iran, should we not clean our own mess before start pointing fingers at others.
You probably (like your goddess of evil Thatcher woman who now has conveniently started to suffer from memory loss) may not want to remember, but was it not the West that spoon fed Ayatollah when he was in exile?
Did we along with Americans not finance train and used what has now become Taliban and Al Qaeda with the help of mother of terrorism ISI of Pakistan?
Why while cutting services for the people in this country under the excuse of financial crisis your darling dodgy Dave Cameron has given another £650 millions to same Pakistan?
How about Iraq? Did your party not support Blair in his illegal and immoral invasion of that country?
Why the hell are our scarce resources being wasted for basically providing unofficial air force to one side of Libyan civil war?
While I have no intention of defending Iran’s current regime, their bad record gets nowhere near our own and the many other Western nations.
Have we not got links with the USA and France's Sarkozi?

Time will tell over Iraq, one day the truth will come out and hopefully Blair and Campbell will be punished for lying to parliament and the public. I'm sure if the dossiers weren't sexed up the Tories wouldn't have backed it, although in 2003 Labour had over a 100 seat majority and it wouldn't have mattered as their MP's would have been whipped into voting for it.

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Bringing up Hitler only goes to show that you have no idea when it comes to original thought. As I thought lol.

There are no original thoughts that have not been though of before, which go's to show how blinkard you are. Just that some of those thoughts have not been tested.
And bring up Hitler I was pointing to you the direction that we and the world is being push into, We are heading for WW3.

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Bringing up Hitler only goes to show that you have no idea when it comes to original thought. As I thought lol.

There are no original thoughts that have not been though of before, which go's to show how blinkard you are. Just that some of those thoughts have not been tested.
And bring up Hitler I was pointing to you the direction that we and the world is being push into, We are heading for WW3.

I can't remember who said it but some clever wit came up with "I do not know what weapons the 3rd world war will be fought with. But the 4th will be fought with sticks". So your often mentioned WW3 may just save the human race and you never know it may even evolve in to your socialist nirvana.

Shoong wrote:
Ooooh, big Commie love in goin' on here!

Isn't it just!;-)

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
.
By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Bringing up Hitler only goes to show that you have no idea when it comes to original thought. As I thought lol.

There are no original thoughts that have not been though of before, which go's to show how blinkard you are. Just that some of those thoughts have not been tested.
And bring up Hitler I was pointing to you the direction that we and the world is being push into, We are heading for WW3.

I can't remember who said it but some clever wit came up with "I do not know what weapons the 3rd world war will be fought with. But the 4th will be fought with sticks". So your often mentioned WW3 may just save the human race and you never know it may even evolve in to your socialist nirvana.

Oppenheimer said that in the 50's, Its meaning was we now know how to wipe out every living thing on this earth. There are no winners only losers.

It be like if you stick a bunch of company of board room members on a desert island, and a bunch of working class on another desert island, and come back on them in 100 years time to check up on them to see which survive, it be the working class that would more likely to still be there.
But with a nuclear war, you would wipe out the very ones that would know and have the know how how to survive. no winners.

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

southy wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

george h wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Reminds me of the item on the News Night couple of years ago, when certain expert on nuclear weapons based in Southampton exposed the scandal of so called security keys for nuclear bombs. These were in fact cheapest forms of push bike locks . With that in mind why the New Forest MP should bother about getting codes from Cameron when all he needs to do is to pop into a local cheepo push bike shop? . Considering the former CND supporter local MP John Denham was also member of the cabinet that committed the government to super expensive Trident programme, Dr. Lewis may have already got a ready made partner. As Denham has shifted very much to the right (In fact over Tuition fees even Tory Lewis is on Denham’s left) the Tories will also have no problem with him on many other anti working class and pro rich policies.

Parmi, would that be this BBC Newsnight report. http://news.bbc.co.u k/media/avdb/news/uk /video/133000/bb/133 417_16x9_bb.asx Wasn't aware that this was a Southampton man.

Yes that expert on nuclear weapons still lives in Southampton, and is behind a web site providing info on the subject, if you have its details those may please put those on this site, might help in opening otherwise too many closed minds on this site
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By the way it may interest you that it is the same man who in late 70s early 80s authored a well researched booklet exposing the dangers of nuclear weapons. Typically dishonest as ever the local Labour Party those days released that under the name of certain John Denham, to promote John’s anti nuclear image, as those days it was a trendy thing to do.

Change will only ever come from within. It's just a shame that the within comprises of you and the likes of southy. Blinkered and not capable of original thought. Still, it's only life. Enjoy it.

Your to blinkered to see what is really going on in the world.
Hilter would be prowd to see this happening its what he wanted and what we had a world war about, Extreme Capitalism the Corporate state where the welthy get all the benefits of the world and the poor are just slaves to the Corporate.
And aid is just part of it, its to keep countrys going in the same direction more and more to the right wing politics, its to stop countrys turning to Socialism, where the wealth is shared to all and not kept by the 2% of the population. Have you not notice how countrys that do turn to Socialism do not get any aid.
What original thought that has not been thought of before, and if you can not see that then you are more blinkered than me and most others.

Bringing up Hitler only goes to show that you have no idea when it comes to original thought. As I thought lol.

There are no original thoughts that have not been though of before, which go's to show how blinkard you are. Just that some of those thoughts have not been tested.
And bring up Hitler I was pointing to you the direction that we and the world is being push into, We are heading for WW3.

I can't remember who said it but some clever wit came up with "I do not know what weapons the 3rd world war will be fought with. But the 4th will be fought with sticks". So your often mentioned WW3 may just save the human race and you never know it may even evolve in to your socialist nirvana.

Oppenheimer said that in the 50's, Its meaning was we now know how to wipe out every living thing on this earth. There are no winners only losers.

It be like if you stick a bunch of company of board room members on a desert island, and a bunch of working class on another desert island, and come back on them in 100 years time to check up on them to see which survive, it be the working class that would more likely to still be there.
But with a nuclear war, you would wipe out the very ones that would know and have the know how how to survive. no winners.

Kind of makes you wonder why "The Working Classes" are not the ruling classes. How many volunteers do you want to join you on a desert island? I'll see if I can find them for you as long as you promise to go.
S/W = drug-face. I think the missing words are off, his and on.