Less than half Hampshire's school meals budget spent on British food (From Daily Echo)

80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

townieboy wrote:
80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

Numnuts. It's not about who is at the school. It's something to do with the fact that the schools are in Britain.

townieboy wrote:
80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

The minority seem to rule in many other areas of our life, to the detriment of Christian, UK history and traditions.
This is just another nail in the coffin for the UK.

hulla baloo wrote:

townieboy wrote:
80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

The minority seem to rule in many other areas of our life, to the detriment of Christian, UK history and traditions.
This is just another nail in the coffin for the UK.

The story is about using UK produced food, not an excuse for you to get back on your old hobby horse. Get back on subject please. You are so predictable it's hardly worth you posting.

The question from Townieboy was, 'why should minority rule'.
To which I made a valid answer, and expanded into other areas to prove that in many cases minority does rule.

hulla baloo wrote:
The question from Townieboy was, 'why should minority rule'.
To which I made a valid answer, and expanded into other areas to prove that in many cases minority does rule.

I'll say it once more for you. The story is about where the food is sourced from. It asks the question why is the food being transported in some cases half way around the world when perfectly good produce is available locally. I hope that none of the words I have used have more syllables than you can cope with.

townieboy wrote:
80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

Where do you live? France?

This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket.
It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

Stillness wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: The question from Townieboy was, 'why should minority rule'. To which I made a valid answer, and expanded into other areas to prove that in many cases minority does rule.

I'll say it once more for you. The story is about where the food is sourced from. It asks the question why is the food being transported in some cases half way around the world when perfectly good produce is available locally. I hope that none of the words I have used have more syllables than you can cope with.

Dont be an idiot all your life, take a day off. I am aware of the story and I answered the question that Townieboy raised. If you cant see that, then I suggest you read a little slower and ingest the words. Better still ask an adult to help.

hulla baloo wrote:

townieboy wrote: 80% of children where i am are non english so it make sense to buy from other sources. Why should the minority rule.

The minority seem to rule in many other areas of our life, to the detriment of Christian, UK history and traditions. This is just another nail in the coffin for the UK.

Can you give one single example of this?

How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

hulla baloo wrote:
How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

What are you on? Is it prescribed?
How about you changing the record? Yours is broken, it keeps playing the same thing over and over again.

hulla baloo wrote:
How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

But that doesn't actually happen and never has. It's a story entirely made up by the Daily Mail to scare racists into buying their paper.

Interesting point made by St Retford- if you ever go to Sainsbury's in Alton, they advertise 'local watercress' which I presume comes from Alresford. However, the distribution depot is (or was) in Northants so the stuff gets carted halfway across the country.

On a serious note, though, it isn't always a bad thing when food is airfreighted- unbelievably the carbon footprint is sometimes lower than for locally produced goods.

St Retford wrote:
This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket.
It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

Most of the above arguments are genuine
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Producing and consuming locally and developing self sustaining communities are the real answer not only for protecting the environment but also for the stability of our societies
.
These Gandhian ideas may not provide the people with very high standards of living but reducing the rat race may help in creating comparatively stress free life
.
But competing in materialism with neighbours is major addiction, how may of us are willing to give up that nosiness?
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Most parts of our planet are provided with seasonal foods and other resources according to the needs of the area. But it is us the people who decide to consume differently
.
Then we have created monsters like the EU (And other similar organisations in other parts of the world) which forces consumption of stuff from far away places based on price instead of values. Local Authorities purchasing policies may also be the victims of that scenario.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

St Retford wrote:
This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket.
It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

Most of the above arguments are genuine
.
Producing and consuming locally and developing self sustaining communities are the real answer not only for protecting the environment but also for the stability of our societies
.
These Gandhian ideas may not provide the people with very high standards of living but reducing the rat race may help in creating comparatively stress free life
.
But competing in materialism with neighbours is major addiction, how may of us are willing to give up that nosiness?
.
Most parts of our planet are provided with seasonal foods and other resources according to the needs of the area. But it is us the people who decide to consume differently
.
Then we have created monsters like the EU (And other similar organisations in other parts of the world) which forces consumption of stuff from far away places based on price instead of values. Local Authorities purchasing policies may also be the victims of that scenario.

Good God! Apart from the last bit I find myself totally in agreement with him.

Maybe they should be spending less money on prison food and more money on our childrens school dinners.

St Retford wrote:
This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket. It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

There isnt enough space in this country to support the poppulation that is here hence why we are buying up land in places like Africa etc.
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If we just controlled out poppulation and our immigration then we wouldnt have this problem.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

St Retford wrote: This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket. It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

Most of the above arguments are genuine . Producing and consuming locally and developing self sustaining communities are the real answer not only for protecting the environment but also for the stability of our societies . These Gandhian ideas may not provide the people with very high standards of living but reducing the rat race may help in creating comparatively stress free life . But competing in materialism with neighbours is major addiction, how may of us are willing to give up that nosiness? . Most parts of our planet are provided with seasonal foods and other resources according to the needs of the area. But it is us the people who decide to consume differently . Then we have created monsters like the EU (And other similar organisations in other parts of the world) which forces consumption of stuff from far away places based on price instead of values. Local Authorities purchasing policies may also be the victims of that scenario.

You're not wrong. The trouble is we have an economic system based on constant growth, like a shark that stops breathing if if stops swimming, which means that in order for it to work people are constantly egged on by an advertising and marketing machine to buy stuff they don't need. Brands nurture and exploit people's basest instincts like envy, insecurity and greed in order to thrive.

There needs to be a massive rethink of the way the economy works so that we can just consume a bit less without it sending 'the markets' to hell in a hand cart.

Stillness wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

What are you on? Is it prescribed? How about you changing the record? Yours is broken, it keeps playing the same thing over and over again.

Due to people like yourself who seem to take pleasure in attacking people, rathare than trying to be constructive, or add to comments,I make few very posts on here, there is not a record to change.

keepitlocal wrote:

St Retford wrote: This story is actually a pretty important issue and we should all be looking to source food more locally as it's better for the environment and better for us. Supermarkets are, as usual, the biggest sinners in terms of food air miles as they'll take a carrott or a chicken from a farm next to your house and then ship it mainland Europe for 'processing' before sending it back to a central distribution depot and then then putting it in a lorry and taking it to the shelves of your local supermarket. It can't be sensible. But if we're to return to a model of local farms supplying a local community then we're going to have to deal with the idea of eating seasonal food, and I'm not sure people would be able to cope with that. The idea that you might not be able to buy strawberries in February would freak most people right out.

There isnt enough space in this country to support the poppulation that is here hence why we are buying up land in places like Africa etc. . If we just controlled out poppulation and our immigration then we wouldnt have this problem.

Yes we would. This is nothing whatsoever to do with immigration. The (tory, at the time) government agreed long ago to end the UK's food self sufficiency and open up the entire system to the great god of the global market. As with everything when opened up to a global market, ownership becomes conscntrated in the hands of two or three incredibly powerful companies (in this case the supermarkets) and production gets outsourced to the cheapest places in the world.

St Retford wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

But that doesn't actually happen and never has. It's a story entirely made up by the Daily Mail to scare racists into buying their paper.

But it always was a winter holiday though wasnt it? Before Christians came and wiped out the indigenous faith which was Paganism.

St Retford wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

But that doesn't actually happen and never has. It's a story entirely made up by the Daily Mail to scare racists into buying their paper.

If you read my post properly, I said 'trying'.
Daill Mail is probalby one of many media outlets that has covered this.
As I understand, a number of schools have either changed, or tried to change the Christmas/natavity theme to a winter celebration.

keepitlocal wrote:

St Retford wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: How about trying to change 'Christmas' to winter holiday,. to avoid upsetting other faiths.

But that doesn't actually happen and never has. It's a story entirely made up by the Daily Mail to scare racists into buying their paper.

But it always was a winter holiday though wasnt it? Before Christians came and wiped out the indigenous faith which was Paganism.

Heh. This is true enough. It we really want to find a group of immigrants who have come in and changed our customs then look no further than the christians. And I bet even then the councils gave them free mud huts with sky TV and they took the jobs from all the pagans that were born here etc.

Whats quality got to do with food ? Its all about cost and profit.

This is great news for the local economy and hopefuly the ethics and good quality produce have a positive effect on children.

townieboy wrote:
Whats quality got to do with food ? Its all about cost and profit.

You definitelty don't live in France. Scotland?

Hi everyone
Some people, it seems, believe that this is an issue about race and religion as opposed to food miles and eating seasonably via local industry.
A similar problem occured during the recent blackberry argument that I was involved in; people just go "off piste" and rant about whatever bone of contention they wish to gnaw.
My family have legally picked hundreds of kilos of local fresh frut and nuts for free this year, all local and mostly from within the city of Southampton.
I am currently engaging the city council about the possibility of creating a local Community Orchard - this could be used to supply schools in the area with fresh fruit, when the season is right.
The orchard could also be used for picnics, blossom walks, outdoor events and celebrations, be they Pagan, Christian or other.
I have also commented on sensible food habits in my blog http://theurbanefora
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