Council prayers to continue (From Daily Echo)

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  freefinker wrote:
  

  Condor Man wrote:
  

  Scrutinizer wrote:
  

  Condor Man wrote:
  

  Goldenwight wrote:

  Condor Man wrote:

  Goldenwight wrote: The Church of England is AN established church in this country, not the established church. I believe (and I may be wrong here) that the Church in Wales predates Christian worship in England by some decades. And other religions have been established here far longer.

  The Catholic church was around long before Henry VIII invented the church of England. As the Queen is head of both the Anglican Church and the Government church and state are one and the same

  Certainly it was. The Christian tradition was, however, brought to England by St Augustine (allegedly) in the 7th Century. Simply having the same leader does NOT make the state and the Church of England the same thing. We have a tradition of religious tolerance in this Country dating back some years. The last recorded massacre of Jews, for example, was over 1,000 years ago. Whilst many wish to overturn this state of affairs, I am not one of them. I wonder how many readers are prepared to put their comments in writing here and disagree with me? Certainly I'm aware that there is a lot of negative feeling against completely innocent peacefully living muslims in Southampton.

  as a practising Christian (and believe I need it) it's great to live in a country where you can believe or not in whatever you like. Many Muslims feel that it's easier for them to practice Islam here than in many majority Muslim nations. The problem lies with bigoted atheists like Richard Dawkins who want to provoke difference.

  No, Richard Dawkins is most certainly not bigoted at all. In fact he is one of the most reasonable, intelligent minds around. A very decent man who debates in a calm and reasoned manner, despite a huge barrage of agressive attacks ranged against him and his (our) ideas by religionists like yourself. The late and great Christopher Hitchens was of similar superior intellect and the likes of the deluded religionists (of whatever type) hated him for it to - unlike his bigoted, nutcase of a brother of course, who currently peddles his nonsense for the trashy Mail.
  
  The religionists are very worried now. They (you) know that they (you) are 'on the run' and that having had their (your) way for so many years, atheism is fighting back and standing up for the rights of people who don't believe in any fantasy sky gods and the airy-fairy tales associated with them, nor want their (our) children indoctrinated in them in any way either. The fight back has started - and we are winning.
  
  As for Richard Dawkins and your accusation that he wants to 'provoke difference'; well that has to be - in the way in which you intend it certainly - one of the most ridiculous phrases that I think I've ever heard in my life.
  
  'Formalised prayers on the agenda', Councilor Sean Woodward! B*ll*cks!And as for Pickles? Well it's about time someone had him pickled!

  I think I'll stick with what I believe in. If there is a God I'll get to meet him when I die, if there isn't I'll rot in the ground. Either way, I'd have lost nothing.
  
  If, though, there is a God and you don't get to meet him then quite frankly you're screwed. If you're willing to take that risk I wish you the best of luck, I here hell's a terrible place.

  .. oh, it's 'belief' again - ‘confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof’.
  
  .. or do you mean faith - ‘belief that is not based on proof’.
  
  .. proof - ‘evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true’.
  
  Isn’t it about time you started to distinguish between reality and delusion?
  
  You are a grown-up after all.

  Jesus said that he was the way to heaven, if you believe that he was the son of God you will receive redemption and that place in heaven. Why would a man willing let someone else kill him in a horrific manner if there wasn't something behind what he was saying? why were the establishment at the time so determined to kill him, if he was just a crank they'd have just ignored him. There's plenty of evidence that Jesus lived, that he was crucified and that he died. The question is what happened after that."
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