Record haul of fake wine and vodka seized at shop

Londis in Lodge Road, Southampton

Londis in Lodge Road, Southampton

First published in News by

A CORNER shop has been banned from selling alcohol for a week after a record haul of fake vodka and wine was discovered for sale.

Trading Standards officers swooped on Londis News in Lodge Road, Southampton, after a complaint from a customers and discovered 124 counterfeit and non-duty paid bottles of vodka and wine.

Shop owner Minesh Narenda Patel was called before the city council’s licensing sub-committee and faced a three month drink sales ban. But he said he was “conned” and after assuring councillors he had set up new procedures to ensure it did not happen again the licence suspension was reduced to a week.

Trading Standards’ Christine Hill told how she and a colleague visited Mr Patel following a complaint about a bottle of vodka.

They seized 130 suspected bottles.

Only six were genuine alcohol.

Mr Patel claimed that seven vodka bottles in his office which had no UK stamp duty paid had been given to him by friends for his own use, making them legal.

“That still leaves 117 bottles which we determined as counterfeit and that’s a record for what we’ve found in Southampton,”

Mrs Hill said.

Among the haul were 35 Jacobs Creek wine bottles with tell-tale mis-spellings of Australia.

A total of 45 of the complained about Arctic Ice vodka bottles were discovered. The brand was found to be a made-up name. The substance inside had an “unpleasant odour”.

Mrs Hill said: “Vodkas are more of a health issue. They are made in factories which are not controlled.”

A total of 31 Prince Consort Vodka bottles were sent to the genuine manufacturer and found to be counterfeit or of “poor”

quality.

Jonathan Gray, representing Mr Patel, said the Arctic Vodka was bought from a man who turned up outside the shop with a glossy brochure. His number was provided to Trading Standards.

Mr Patel has bought a £4,500 CCTV system and a £11,500 till, which asks staff to record if identification was asked for.

The store has been ordered to keep all records of purchases, including invoices, receipts and delivery notes relating to alcohol and cigarettes with full details of the supplier.

Mr Patel told the Daily Echo he has made the changes requested already as he wants his customers to be safe.

“Call it naivety or whatever but we had our fingers burnt,” he said.

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9:56am Tue 10 Apr 12

ecuk268 says...

Wow! a whole week!

Tough penalty
Wow! a whole week! Tough penalty ecuk268
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10:16am Tue 10 Apr 12

mummsie says...

Should be banned for good!!
Should be banned for good!! mummsie
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10:17am Tue 10 Apr 12

chunky_lover says...

who the hell even buys wine or worse still , vodka from a corner shop? down and outs, that's who! bloody nonsense, these places shouldn't be allowed to sell alcohol ever.
who the hell even buys wine or worse still , vodka from a corner shop? down and outs, that's who! bloody nonsense, these places shouldn't be allowed to sell alcohol ever. chunky_lover
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10:17am Tue 10 Apr 12

mummsie says...

Should be banned for good!!
Should be banned for good!! mummsie
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10:20am Tue 10 Apr 12

StevieSteve says...

Joke.
Joke. StevieSteve
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10:23am Tue 10 Apr 12

The Salv says...

Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?
Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as? The Salv
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10:26am Tue 10 Apr 12

SinnerSaint says...

Tut tut Mineshbhai!!! De daru, de daruuu, de daru, de daruuuu, de daru!

That's "Karma" for you ;-)
Tut tut Mineshbhai!!! De daru, de daruuu, de daru, de daruuuu, de daru! That's "Karma" for you ;-) SinnerSaint
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10:33am Tue 10 Apr 12

dsm says...

How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones? dsm
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10:34am Tue 10 Apr 12

mr.southampton says...

Quelle Surprise.

Short term greed, but long-term will destroy their business as only foolish people will buy booze from a corner-shop. Better to use Tesco down the road then you know what you're getting.
Quelle Surprise. Short term greed, but long-term will destroy their business as only foolish people will buy booze from a corner-shop. Better to use Tesco down the road then you know what you're getting. mr.southampton
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10:39am Tue 10 Apr 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
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[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]17 MisterGrimsdale
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10:43am Tue 10 Apr 12

Stillness says...

If all his "friends" are giving him vodka as a present I would suggest that he probably has a drink problem and is not fit to be licensed to sale alcohol. Come on the local AA group, go have a chat with him. Step 1...................
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If all his "friends" are giving him vodka as a present I would suggest that he probably has a drink problem and is not fit to be licensed to sale alcohol. Come on the local AA group, go have a chat with him. Step 1................... ...... Stillness
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11:15am Tue 10 Apr 12

Totton Ric says...

More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government!
More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government! Totton Ric
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11:29am Tue 10 Apr 12

Pixiienot says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
Oh come on somebody has always got o play that card... Bet you wouldnt say it if you brought a bottle out of his shop!
[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]Oh come on somebody has always got o play that card... Bet you wouldnt say it if you brought a bottle out of his shop! Pixiienot
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11:30am Tue 10 Apr 12

Solomon's Boot says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
The same amount!

The bloke's been breaking the law, that's the issue. It's not about race!!

Stupid comment!
[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]The same amount! The bloke's been breaking the law, that's the issue. It's not about race!! Stupid comment! Solomon's Boot
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11:33am Tue 10 Apr 12

chavfreezone says...

It's mazing how hard nosed business men become really stupid and naive when caught on the fiddle. You can get away with anything it seems. & 7 bottles for own use lol. i'll stick to Sainsburys and Aldi
It's mazing how hard nosed business men become really stupid and naive when caught on the fiddle. You can get away with anything it seems. & 7 bottles for own use lol. i'll stick to Sainsburys and Aldi chavfreezone
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11:34am Tue 10 Apr 12

Maine Lobster says...

Totton Ric wrote:
More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government!
Agree, a greedy Government seeking to raise money by penalising the moderate majority on the backs of the irresponsible minority. Having said that, any store owner who buys cheap stock from a man who turns up out of the blue has to be a total doughnut or more likely a chancer looking to make a quick buck,regardless of the potential harm to customers.
[quote][p][bold]Totton Ric[/bold] wrote: More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government![/p][/quote]Agree, a greedy Government seeking to raise money by penalising the moderate majority on the backs of the irresponsible minority. Having said that, any store owner who buys cheap stock from a man who turns up out of the blue has to be a total doughnut or more likely a chancer looking to make a quick buck,regardless of the potential harm to customers. Maine Lobster
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11:41am Tue 10 Apr 12

Totton Ric says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
Totton Ric wrote: More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government!
Agree, a greedy Government seeking to raise money by penalising the moderate majority on the backs of the irresponsible minority. Having said that, any store owner who buys cheap stock from a man who turns up out of the blue has to be a total doughnut or more likely a chancer looking to make a quick buck,regardless of the potential harm to customers.
Both me & my wife work hard,one of our pleasures is to enjoy a nice bottle of wine, vodka & coke or have friends round & buy a couple of packs of beer. I would not say we are irresponsible drinkers & at the moment enjoy these small pleasures, no matter how much alcohol goes up the people who abuse this will still find money !, Drinking will soon be for the rich only !
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totton Ric[/bold] wrote: More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government![/p][/quote]Agree, a greedy Government seeking to raise money by penalising the moderate majority on the backs of the irresponsible minority. Having said that, any store owner who buys cheap stock from a man who turns up out of the blue has to be a total doughnut or more likely a chancer looking to make a quick buck,regardless of the potential harm to customers.[/p][/quote]Both me & my wife work hard,one of our pleasures is to enjoy a nice bottle of wine, vodka & coke or have friends round & buy a couple of packs of beer. I would not say we are irresponsible drinkers & at the moment enjoy these small pleasures, no matter how much alcohol goes up the people who abuse this will still find money !, Drinking will soon be for the rich only ! Totton Ric
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11:41am Tue 10 Apr 12

bigfella777 says...

He should have topay the avoided duty as well surely.
He should have topay the avoided duty as well surely. bigfella777
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12:10pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Once again the council has the powers to take action on an alcohol issue and once again tey fail to deliver.
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This council’s licensing sub-committee really does need to start flexing some muscle
Once again the council has the powers to take action on an alcohol issue and once again tey fail to deliver. . This council’s licensing sub-committee really does need to start flexing some muscle Lone Ranger.
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12:18pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Tiz says...

Totton Ric wrote:
More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government!
Even if it's cheap imported booze, it will still be subject to unit pricing so it would only mean a bigger profit for the shopkeeper, no difference to the purchaser. Lesson here is check what you're buying.
[quote][p][bold]Totton Ric[/bold] wrote: More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government![/p][/quote]Even if it's cheap imported booze, it will still be subject to unit pricing so it would only mean a bigger profit for the shopkeeper, no difference to the purchaser. Lesson here is check what you're buying. Tiz
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12:20pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Tiz says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Once again the council has the powers to take action on an alcohol issue and once again tey fail to deliver.
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This council’s licensing sub-committee really does need to start flexing some muscle
However, treading standards or the police could appeal the sentence in the magistartes court if they choose.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Once again the council has the powers to take action on an alcohol issue and once again tey fail to deliver. . This council’s licensing sub-committee really does need to start flexing some muscle[/p][/quote]However, treading standards or the police could appeal the sentence in the magistartes court if they choose. Tiz
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12:42pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Niel says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends...
[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends... Niel
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12:44pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Taskforce 141 says...

Strip him of licence for good! I would also question whether he should be allowed to continue to operate the shop at all, regardless if it was selling alcohol.

Without sufficient penalties people will continue to cut corners and break the law.
Strip him of licence for good! I would also question whether he should be allowed to continue to operate the shop at all, regardless if it was selling alcohol. Without sufficient penalties people will continue to cut corners and break the law. Taskforce 141
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1:07pm Tue 10 Apr 12

SinnerSaint says...

Niel wrote:
dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends...
What utter, utter shyte!! Patels make up some of the higher caste Indians in Gujarat. They are generally land, property or business owners or all of the above. Most of the British Patels made fortunes in Uganda, East Africa before being hounded out in just the clothes they were wearing by Idi Amin. They prospered here and made second fortunes while Uganda never recovered.
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends...[/p][/quote]What utter, utter shyte!! Patels make up some of the higher caste Indians in Gujarat. They are generally land, property or business owners or all of the above. Most of the British Patels made fortunes in Uganda, East Africa before being hounded out in just the clothes they were wearing by Idi Amin. They prospered here and made second fortunes while Uganda never recovered. SinnerSaint
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1:10pm Tue 10 Apr 12

solomum says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
Why on earth does it matter what his name is? The licence should be permanently revoked as the sale of fake alcohol can cost lives. Also what responsible shop keeper buys alcohol from "a man who turns up outside the shop with a glossy brochure". Sounds like this shop should be avoided at all costs.
[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]Why on earth does it matter what his name is? The licence should be permanently revoked as the sale of fake alcohol can cost lives. Also what responsible shop keeper buys alcohol from "a man who turns up outside the shop with a glossy brochure". Sounds like this shop should be avoided at all costs. solomum
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1:14pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Goldenwight says...

This fraudulent 'Jacob's Creek' wine, I'm amazed because that stuff turns up EVERYWHERE. It seems that the fraudsters have an established delivery and sales network throughout the UK but don't even own a dictionary. It's A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a, just for the record!

And people who buy alcohol from blokes who 'turn up outside the shop with a glossy brochure' deserve everything they get.
This fraudulent 'Jacob's Creek' wine, I'm amazed because that stuff turns up EVERYWHERE. It seems that the fraudsters have an established delivery and sales network throughout the UK but don't even own a dictionary. It's A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a, just for the record! And people who buy alcohol from blokes who 'turn up outside the shop with a glossy brochure' deserve everything they get. Goldenwight
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1:29pm Tue 10 Apr 12

slippery says...

I would think Londis would have something to say about this,I would if he was using my name to trade under
I would think Londis would have something to say about this,I would if he was using my name to trade under slippery
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2:19pm Tue 10 Apr 12

KeefyH44 says...

Yet another example of inadequate punishment by our legal system!!! Given the potentially possible serious outcome he should have been banned for life from having a liquor licence AND served time in prison. There is no deterrent to wrong doing!
Yet another example of inadequate punishment by our legal system!!! Given the potentially possible serious outcome he should have been banned for life from having a liquor licence AND served time in prison. There is no deterrent to wrong doing! KeefyH44
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2:19pm Tue 10 Apr 12

dolomiteman says...

If his 'friend' gave him bottles of non duty paid vodka that is still an offence as it wasn't for the 'friends' own use and why would a so called professional shopkeeper buy alcohol from an unknown street vendor without checking its legit? Im betting it was much cheaper than wholesale prices, that in itself should have rang alarms bells.
If his 'friend' gave him bottles of non duty paid vodka that is still an offence as it wasn't for the 'friends' own use and why would a so called professional shopkeeper buy alcohol from an unknown street vendor without checking its legit? Im betting it was much cheaper than wholesale prices, that in itself should have rang alarms bells. dolomiteman
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4:14pm Tue 10 Apr 12

philiprhampton says...

I wonder if the Londis/filling station in the city is still selling two bottles of wine for a fiver!!!!!!
I wonder if the Londis/filling station in the city is still selling two bottles of wine for a fiver!!!!!! philiprhampton
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4:33pm Tue 10 Apr 12

sameoldscene says...

Instant ban, zero tolerance to this. Mr Patel knew what he was doing and needs to be stripped of his liquor license etc. What next, a pharmacist selling fake drugs, a clothes shop selling fake goods and leaving it for a week!! Mr Patel must have known the consequenses for his actions, therefore cannot be trusted.... End of!!!!!!! Probably selling fake ciggies too!!!!! Dont care if his surname is Bloggs, Smith, Jones or Patel or Singh. Instant ban!!!! NO WARNINGS!!!
Instant ban, zero tolerance to this. Mr Patel knew what he was doing and needs to be stripped of his liquor license etc. What next, a pharmacist selling fake drugs, a clothes shop selling fake goods and leaving it for a week!! Mr Patel must have known the consequenses for his actions, therefore cannot be trusted.... End of!!!!!!! Probably selling fake ciggies too!!!!! Dont care if his surname is Bloggs, Smith, Jones or Patel or Singh. Instant ban!!!! NO WARNINGS!!! sameoldscene
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5:22pm Tue 10 Apr 12

bobbyboy says...

Another gets away with it enough said. Come on Londis do something possitive like sack him for using your premisses to sell FAKE Alcohol. Give him two months and his friends would have supplied him with another couple of bottles and he is not the only establishment in porwotski thats selling it but thats for the police to find out.
Another gets away with it enough said. Come on Londis do something possitive like sack him for using your premisses to sell FAKE Alcohol. Give him two months and his friends would have supplied him with another couple of bottles and he is not the only establishment in porwotski thats selling it but thats for the police to find out. bobbyboy
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5:30pm Tue 10 Apr 12

chunky_lover says...

Drinking is for the working classes anyway. The scum of the earth!
Drinking is for the working classes anyway. The scum of the earth! chunky_lover
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6:04pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Georgem says...

chunky_lover wrote:
who the hell even buys wine or worse still , vodka from a corner shop? down and outs, that's who! bloody nonsense, these places shouldn't be allowed to sell alcohol ever.
Yes! Hang him, and slaughter any of the scum - some of whom don't even have a knighthood, I hear - who frequent this "shop".
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: who the hell even buys wine or worse still , vodka from a corner shop? down and outs, that's who! bloody nonsense, these places shouldn't be allowed to sell alcohol ever.[/p][/quote]Yes! Hang him, and slaughter any of the scum - some of whom don't even have a knighthood, I hear - who frequent this "shop". Georgem
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6:05pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Georgem says...

The Salv wrote:
Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?
Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?[/p][/quote]Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me. Georgem
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6:09pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Georgem says...

slippery wrote:
I would think Londis would have something to say about this,I would if he was using my name to trade under
Thankfully, not many people would shop at "Slippery Stores"
[quote][p][bold]slippery[/bold] wrote: I would think Londis would have something to say about this,I would if he was using my name to trade under[/p][/quote]Thankfully, not many people would shop at "Slippery Stores" Georgem
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6:12pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Georgem says...

sameoldscene wrote:
Instant ban, zero tolerance to this. Mr Patel knew what he was doing and needs to be stripped of his liquor license etc. What next, a pharmacist selling fake drugs, a clothes shop selling fake goods and leaving it for a week!! Mr Patel must have known the consequenses for his actions, therefore cannot be trusted.... End of!!!!!!! Probably selling fake ciggies too!!!!! Dont care if his surname is Bloggs, Smith, Jones or Patel or Singh. Instant ban!!!! NO WARNINGS!!!
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There. Some extra ones in case you run out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote][p][bold]sameoldscene[/bold] wrote: Instant ban, zero tolerance to this. Mr Patel knew what he was doing and needs to be stripped of his liquor license etc. What next, a pharmacist selling fake drugs, a clothes shop selling fake goods and leaving it for a week!! Mr Patel must have known the consequenses for his actions, therefore cannot be trusted.... End of!!!!!!! Probably selling fake ciggies too!!!!! Dont care if his surname is Bloggs, Smith, Jones or Patel or Singh. Instant ban!!!! NO WARNINGS!!![/p][/quote]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! There. Some extra ones in case you run out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!shift+on e111111!!!!!!!!!!! Georgem
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6:17pm Tue 10 Apr 12

beesdee says...

Georgem wrote:
The Salv wrote:
Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?
Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.
And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?[/p][/quote]Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.[/p][/quote]And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there. beesdee
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6:25pm Tue 10 Apr 12

sameoldscene says...

beesdee wrote:
Georgem wrote:
The Salv wrote:
Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?
Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.
And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there.
What a """"""W*&nker""" georgem really is, bored silly little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote][p][bold]beesdee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?[/p][/quote]Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.[/p][/quote]And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there.[/p][/quote]What a """"""W*&nker""" georgem really is, bored silly little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!HA!HA!HA!HA! sameoldscene
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6:32pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Georgem says...

sameoldscene wrote:
beesdee wrote:
Georgem wrote:
The Salv wrote:
Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?
Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.
And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there.
What a """"""W*&nk
er""" georgem really is, bored silly little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm bored, that's for sure. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote][p][bold]sameoldscene[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beesdee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: Seeing as these fake's have been known to kill people in the past they should be called up to the crown court for... what would attempted manslaughter be known as?[/p][/quote]Attempted manslaughter? Slight misunderstanding here. Look up the meanings of those two words, and get back to me.[/p][/quote]And research the correct (rather than random) use of apostrophes while you're there.[/p][/quote]What a """"""W*&nk er""" georgem really is, bored silly little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!HA!HA!HA!HA![/p][/quote]I'm bored, that's for sure. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! Georgem
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7:05pm Tue 10 Apr 12

gillyman says...

dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
the same amount if people had died from poisoning a crime is a crime regardless
[quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]the same amount if people had died from poisoning a crime is a crime regardless gillyman
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7:06pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Niel says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Niel wrote:
dsm wrote:
How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?
Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends...
What utter, utter shyte!! Patels make up some of the higher caste Indians in Gujarat. They are generally land, property or business owners or all of the above. Most of the British Patels made fortunes in Uganda, East Africa before being hounded out in just the clothes they were wearing by Idi Amin. They prospered here and made second fortunes while Uganda never recovered.
Why do you think they are called thieves then? Making profit comes first!
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dsm[/bold] wrote: How many of the 'Ban him for ever' comments would have been made if his name was not Patel but Jones?[/p][/quote]Who knows, but as Patel is considered to be the family name for thief by my Indian friends...[/p][/quote]What utter, utter shyte!! Patels make up some of the higher caste Indians in Gujarat. They are generally land, property or business owners or all of the above. Most of the British Patels made fortunes in Uganda, East Africa before being hounded out in just the clothes they were wearing by Idi Amin. They prospered here and made second fortunes while Uganda never recovered.[/p][/quote]Why do you think they are called thieves then? Making profit comes first! Niel
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9:31pm Tue 10 Apr 12

SinnerSaint says...

So all businessmen are thieves according to you?

What a ****.
So all businessmen are thieves according to you? What a ****. SinnerSaint
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8:24am Wed 11 Apr 12

Brusher Mills says...

Totton Ric wrote:
More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government!
Hopefully raising the price in shops will encourage more people to drink decent ale in pubs.
[quote][p][bold]Totton Ric[/bold] wrote: More to come of this in the near future !. The government have not thought the minimum price through of 40p per unit, this would even make the cheapest supermarket vodka £11+ for a 70cl size bottle, a bottle of Cider £6 for a 2 litre size & 4 cans of average strength Lager £5+. This would drive smaller shops to possible sell cheap imported booze or worse still fake alcohol. Well done the government![/p][/quote]Hopefully raising the price in shops will encourage more people to drink decent ale in pubs. Brusher Mills
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4:50pm Wed 11 Apr 12

paul samosa says...

Goldenwight wrote:
This fraudulent 'Jacob's Creek' wine, I'm amazed because that stuff turns up EVERYWHERE. It seems that the fraudsters have an established delivery and sales network throughout the UK but don't even own a dictionary. It's A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a, just for the record!

And people who buy alcohol from blokes who 'turn up outside the shop with a glossy brochure' deserve everything they get.
try looking at meggeson avenue shops,for dodgy stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: This fraudulent 'Jacob's Creek' wine, I'm amazed because that stuff turns up EVERYWHERE. It seems that the fraudsters have an established delivery and sales network throughout the UK but don't even own a dictionary. It's A-u-s-t-r-a-l-i-a, just for the record! And people who buy alcohol from blokes who 'turn up outside the shop with a glossy brochure' deserve everything they get.[/p][/quote]try looking at meggeson avenue shops,for dodgy stuff. paul samosa
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10:15pm Wed 11 Apr 12

eurogordi says...

This shop seems to be a Londis franchise, so surely Londis should be taking some responsibility in informing franchisees about fake alcohol. Google "Artic Ice" and you will see that this has been a problem for 12 months or more so someone somewhere should have made retailers aware. Or am I just being too simplistic here?
This shop seems to be a Londis franchise, so surely Londis should be taking some responsibility in informing franchisees about fake alcohol. Google "Artic Ice" and you will see that this has been a problem for 12 months or more so someone somewhere should have made retailers aware. Or am I just being too simplistic here? eurogordi
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12:50pm Sat 14 Apr 12

Niel says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
So all businessmen are thieves according to you?

What a ****.
Dalit actually.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: So all businessmen are thieves according to you? What a ****.[/p][/quote]Dalit actually. Niel
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12:50pm Sat 14 Apr 12

Niel says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
So all businessmen are thieves according to you?

What a ****.
Dalit actually.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: So all businessmen are thieves according to you? What a ****.[/p][/quote]Dalit actually. Niel
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12:50pm Sat 14 Apr 12

Niel says...

Dalit actually.
Dalit actually. Niel
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3:09pm Sat 14 Apr 12

chunky_lover says...

Look, the problem is the public sector like the council and the working classes - if we didn't have these people then we wouldn't have nonsense like this! The bloke took a deal on the drink because there's a market for it. People do things like that all the time. Just think, if the working classes weren't around to consume such rubbish then there wouldn't be a market for it. And the council, well - they waste more time than anyone....
Look, the problem is the public sector like the council and the working classes - if we didn't have these people then we wouldn't have nonsense like this! The bloke took a deal on the drink because there's a market for it. People do things like that all the time. Just think, if the working classes weren't around to consume such rubbish then there wouldn't be a market for it. And the council, well - they waste more time than anyone.... chunky_lover
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