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Council’s plan to widen age range at retirement complex
4:00am Thursday 9th August 2012 in News By Ed Stilliard, Senior Reporter
Ventnor Court retirement complex.
A HOUSING complex for retired residents is set to open its doors to younger crowd in a bid to save it from closure.
Southampton City Council has been struggling to find older people to move into their supported housing complex at Ventnor Court.
Council bosses are expected to agree to lowering the minimum age limit to 55 in an effort to fill up the empty spaces while, at the same time, deal with an ever growing council waiting list.
Currently some 14,500 people are waiting for homes in the city so the authority hopes by lowering the age range at Ventnor Court some spare capacity can be used.
The council had considered selling the 122-apartment complex but Cabinet member for housing, Warwick Payne, said he wanted to see 100 per cent occupancy at the estate instead.
“You have to make a decision one way or another to either pull out of that scheme or to change it,” he said. “Anything below 100 per cent occupancy isn’t enough. If a place is available to let it should be occupied.”
However, the decision has not been welcomed by all existing residents.
Alan Kebbell , 68, said he feared the move would bring problems not just with the new tenants but with the infrastructure too.
“There would be antisocial behaviour, noise, we just don’t need it,” he said. “When I was 55 I still played my music loud. People aged 55 will be working too and they will have their cars.
“The car park is always full with council workers, care workers. If we get people who are 55 and their families the car park will not be big enough.”
Meetings were held at the start of last year with the residents to find a way of getting more people into the complex.
Initially proposals to get tenants from the age of 50 upwards before a compromise was found with new tenants aged 55 to 60.
The decision is due to be made on Monday, after which the council said it would do some improvement work at the complex.
Comments(26)
mtdiablo
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8:57am Thu 9 Aug 12
sass
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12:55pm Thu 9 Aug 12
townieboy
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1:06pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Paramjit Bahia
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1:27pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Seriously real problem is lack of affordable homes. Shortage caused by sale of many houses on the cheap and Councils stop building new homes, thanks to policies dictated by national governments of all major parties.
Lone Ranger.
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2:28pm Thu 9 Aug 12
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
footballcrazy
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3:02pm Thu 9 Aug 12
loosehead
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3:47pm Thu 9 Aug 12
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
Fatty x Ford Worker
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4:27pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Lone Ranger.
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7:20pm Thu 9 Aug 12
loosehead wrote:Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
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If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
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I dont believe the double standard of some people.
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I really am surprised
Over the Edge
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7:44pm Thu 9 Aug 12
I wish Warwick Payne would do us all a favour and get rid of Kebbell the cretin.
Paramjit Bahia
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8:14pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Agree.
It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times.
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices?
And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing
Lone Ranger.
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8:24pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:I dont see any real reason why there should be large discounts for people to buy or even be allowed to buy at all.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Agree.
It should be a crime for ANY council not to have 100% occupancy during these times.
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Lowering the age to 55 should not create any issue
Would you agree that council houses/flats should not be sold at discounted prices?
And that those who sell their homes for banking money, should not qualify for council or social housing
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Of course that they should not qualify for social or council housing if they sell their homes for banking money.
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There again i never have ..... irrespective of the governments colours.
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loosehead
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9:22pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
loosehead wrote:Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
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If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
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I dont believe the double standard of some people.
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I really am surprised
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
CookieCutter2
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10:24pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Inform Al
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10:40pm Thu 9 Aug 12
Lone Ranger.
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8:19am Fri 10 Aug 12
loosehead wrote:Usual rubbish loosehead.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
loosehead wrote:Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
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You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
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Shop around there are some great deals out there.
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You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
loosehead
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12:39pm Fri 10 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Useless rubbish you total as* wipe!
loosehead wrote:Usual rubbish loosehead.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
loosehead wrote:Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
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I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
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You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
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Shop around there are some great deals out there.
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You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
Why are you not slating your beloved Labour party & the Unions?
Considering job losses to give high earners more pay?
You don't know me or my circumstances yet you come out with absolute cr+p like this? Get a life & try explaining to the council workers who lose their jobs that the loss of pay by striking was worth it.
When strikers were asked why if their pay wasn't to be effected with the rising of the start of cut in pay (22,000) were they on strike? we do it to protect our fellow workers?
Will the high earners now reject the deal to protect the jobs of the lower paid who will be losing their jobs?
Lone Ranger.
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1:01pm Fri 10 Aug 12
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
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Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
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Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
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Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
loosehead
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5:46pm Fri 10 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you?
I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances.
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
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Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
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Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
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Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax?
I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
Lone Ranger.
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9:50pm Fri 10 Aug 12
loosehead wrote:Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you are
Lone Ranger. wrote:So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you?
I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances.
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You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy.
.
Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks.
.
Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you.
.
Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!
Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax?
I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
frenchvic
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7:22am Sat 11 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:I'm sure these two don't like each other.
loosehead wrote:Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you areLone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
loosehead
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8:26am Sat 11 Aug 12
frenchvic wrote:I think you're right!
Lone Ranger. wrote:I'm sure these two don't like each other.
loosehead wrote:Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you areLone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
loosehead
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8:29am Sat 11 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Ant I also put it in the hands of an estate agent & as far as I knew it was private rental no DHSS.
loosehead wrote:Usual rubbish loosehead.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you've put you're foot into it this time.
loosehead wrote:Why are you on the council list. You are not in a council house but own your own home.
I'm 55 & on the council list for 55 & over accommodation this would put a two bedroomed house back on the market.
I can assure Mr.keeble I do not play my music loudly as i have respect for my neighbours.
But surely some one older who is slightly hard of hearing will play music & have the TV on loud so as to hear it ?
there are wardens aren't there? any one upsetting the other tenants with noise could be talked to & if it doesn't change evicted couldn't they?
Sorry Alan can't agree with you
.
I dont believe the idea of council houses or flats are for someone with your means ........ Good pension and your own house.
.
If you wanty to put your house on the maket then do so and BUY a flat with the proceeds.
.
I dont believe the double standard of some people.
.
I really am surprised
I came back from Thailand slept on some ones sofa applied for a council property for my wife & I but as we we're sleeping at my sisters we got very low points.
we managed to get a 6times our earnings mortgage fixed for 5 years which runs out in January.
we know we could not afford the mortgage & with flats costing £145,000 we can't afford to buy.
isn't that the type of person who should get a council property or some one who buys a new car each year & goes on holiday twice a year?
if my mortgage goes up by £100 a month I will have to go either back to Thailand or to declare myself bankrupt.
by renting a council property I will be paying the same for rent as I'm paying for a mortgage as I'm not DHSS.
Good pension" are you saying Dustmen are on good wages with the cuts? Are you saying the drivers are high earners?
On my pension I pay taxes or don't you know that?
.
You have your own property .... and like millions of others you have a mortgage ....... that MAY go up in January .......
.
Shop around there are some great deals out there.
.
You do get a good pension ...... And what the hell has binmen got to do with anything for X's sake.
only until I was told the rent was lowered & told the damages being done did I know.
I then found out why so many private landlords refuse to rent to DHSS.
I had only done it for the short term & I had no interest at all in becoming a Landlord
Lone Ranger.
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2:20pm Sat 11 Aug 12
frenchvic wrote:WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his.
Lone Ranger. wrote:I'm sure these two don't like each other.
loosehead wrote:Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you areLone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
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Thankful for small mercies
loosehead
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3:10pm Sat 11 Aug 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:I think you're reading back you're own posts & realising how wrong you are but hey I never said that it was Loosehead.
frenchvic wrote:WRONG ...... I think the world of him ... He makes me smile when i read his posts ...... he is ilinformed and misguided ........ Yet it really cheers my day up to thank the lord that he is a Tory ...... and that i will never have to have a mindset like his.
Lone Ranger. wrote:I'm sure these two don't like each other.
loosehead wrote:Oh no i will keep on this site to expose the total fraud and liar that you areLone Ranger. wrote: I dont give a toss about you or your circumstances. . You are an idiot who uses a frigging bin strike to try and make your pathetic post seem creditworthy. . Oh by the way ...... i have a life and its great thanks. . Just infiltrated by belly aching idiots like you. . Sell you house and buy a flat ..... dont sponge off the council or my council taxes ...... You should have saved a fortune by now with your wonderful solar panels !!!!!!!!So live your life keep off a decent website & you won't have to put up with people like me will you? Take a look in a estate agents & see the price of a decent flat & tell me how i'll get a mortgage on £18,000 a year before tax? I would quite happily stay private as rent in my age bracket can exceed £400-£500 a month & If I could get a decent flat in my earnings bracket I know the mortgage would be far less than that
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Thankful for small mercies
Lone Ranger is there nothing this Labour council or the Unions can do that will open you're eyes & see you criticise them?
I have already disagreed with the Tory Party over Bio Mass so exactly don't you agree with that Labour or the Unions are doing or are you totally happy with them?
bigfella777 says...
7:16am Thu 9 Aug 12